Subutai: Genghis Khan’s Demon Dog of War 

Can you make a video about Hernan Cortes

How does it say two weeks ago?

Can you make a channel for the history of some countries?

Can you do a video on Attila the Hun

Looooooved it lol anything about the Mongols is fascinating to me and Simon is the best narrator

British way of mocking Germans 😂

@@manjunathnr4624 What does this have to with the video?

@@Michael_De_Santa-Unofficial you probably dont know who else tried conquering Russia in winter and lost. Lost without even a fight...

@@Michael_De_Santa-Unofficial pretty sure I do , and I'm a Brit

@@adamjones4606 You're an exception then.

I'd say the Grand Prince was ...pressured... into accepting the honour

@Victor Kurske In all fairness neither were the Europeans by any margin. The Mongols were just more efficient at this point in history. Reality was they're all just people and people have different customs and different cruelties.

I’m dreaming of the day I can see this in film.

Jamukha last wish is likely a post fact fiction created to show Genghis in good light. the Mongols took the blood brother bit seriously, and even the great Khan didn't want the disrepute of killing his own brother.

incredible thanks

this uber-psychopath didnt want to be a king, he wanted war and destruction. NOTHING to do with loyalty. He wanted to set the world on fire and watch it burn, nothign else brought joy to his heart.

maps existed since ancient times, I don't know what you are talking about

Lmfao mass genocide was who mongols dealt with minor infractions, being a king but a traitor would’ve meant total annihilation

​@@Chadius_Thundercockthe Mongols were not destructive over the lands they ruled. Quite the opposite.

​@@Gongolongothey weren't (?) unless they felt a rebellion, bye 👋

@hahamacna cty they just had to have that ranch sauce, country music and inability to enjoy spicy food

@@thatpandathing9142 😂😂😂😂😂😭😭😭😭

According to customs, you were not allowed to shed blood of a noble. Because crushing can pretty much avoid this better than a blade, that's why they did it. Also left out, he wasn't the only one. Every single noble had that fate, so that party had floorboards reinforced with several dozen people that all died by being danced on.

Lmao 😂 It's not funny, but one has to admit that was a savvy way to murder

@@thatpandathing9142 the long nose tribe made you believe in this

Who cares, Russia still won in the end.

@@anonuser4806 They didn't won, they survived Mongol's massacre.

@@komenkhongjiamsiri78 They won in the end, Dmitri Donskoy defeated Mamai.

@ AnonUser , I don’t know if you understand The Mongols had Russia for over 200 years

@@anonuser4806 not before being mongol puppets for hundreds of years.

Its simple really. His system of pure Merit. Even in todays armies and politics. Merit is set aside. Connections and relations is everything, one can hardly prove themselves to anything theese days, not let alone do anything that helps you gain rank. Everything boils down to knowing, swaying and bribing the right people rather than being very competent at something.

@@Kameeho Nah, i belive that shitty behaviour is universal. For me is more of having a reasonable guy that sees you have talent and let you be. Gengis Khan was really good at handling people with massive egos and let them built their own. Of course that came to bite the mongols when they split...

@@Kameeho pure meritocracy is a beautiful thing

@@Kameeho Not just connections. There are actual laws and regulations on the books that require promotions to be based on sex and race.

That's why Napoleon was successful too, cause of the ' MERIT 'system.

I'll agree with this except for: Subutai wasn't at Legnica. Legnica happend the day before Mohi. Subutai was at Mohi. The other half of the army know how to annihilate the enemy partially because the Mongols practiced it in their yearly 'nerge' hunts.

According to my great great great great great grandfather... he actually said..."Hold my goat milk"

Well, Russia was in a state of internal turmoil when he invaded, and he made sure to exploit that. The Germans did that in WWI and were on the cusp of winning when Lenin took control and bought them off, but Napoleon and Hitler faced a united Russia.

Does 24th June sound like winter to you ? That’s when Napoleon began his campaign, he lost far more men on the summer advance than the winter retreat

Gotta come from the east😂😂😂

"Conquering Russia in the winter? Sounds like it'll be impossible." Subutai: "Actually, it'll be super easy, barely an inconvenience."

Thanks for the recommendation, it free to watch?

Unfortunately not anymore, but he has a lot of great free content though

Damn. I’ll see if i can find a free pirated version or something, but still thank you for this man!

I believe its audio only. Bus still fascinating. Highly recommended.

@@YOOT_JJ go on the piratebay and you can download all the episodes for free in 5-10 minutes. best thing ive ever pirated

😂

The power of his will is unstoppable.

Better than susan

It is too late now. The shine of his head had grown too great.

He’s slowly becoming Vsauce

@Le Naker Indeed!

@tre lol today if he was alive he would not have survived highschool

@Norse Woodman Wrong!, Mongols also established several security checkpoints to guarantee safe commerce throughout their empire.

@@farhadnoori4213 Wrong, you misunderstood me! In no way I expressed anything against them, on the contrary, I started my admiration for the Mongolians since they got the greatest land empire in History. Their military skills and political abilities enabled them to conquer and govern vast quantities of land and men.

Norse Woodman but ... but yes they can

Don't you think of you guys need political influence on the internet but the general public license plate number one priority mail international signed and dated you know what I mean right???

The Mongolian people have a legendary culture

How did it fall btw? Or its basically China now? I dont recall any usurption of Genghis' heirs.

@@billybigballs9208 I have no clue what you mean. Is English your 19th language?

Your people are all saveges gangis khan butcherd all of Asia and Iran we hate your culture because it's full of saevgnes and blood .

Chingis haani 4 n nohoi buyu zev,subeedei,zelem,hubilai shu

Chingis lol They mention there was four.

@@serodbat3140 muhulai shuu, khubilai chen ach ni shvvdee ter ued jaahan huuhed bsan

@@khashgerelgandush7873 khubilai gej baigaa.muhulai 4 hulug-n neg.

Subutai achieved the elevated status of War Wolf.

Subatai is the greatest general to have ever lived he won 65 pitches battles never lost a single battle a military genius

@Jojo reference lost a battle & a war. though his genius was more apparent

Hannibal Barca easily the most daring. I'd say Napoleon too.

Calling what they did a reconnaissance in force would be an understatement.

@Archnid 001 indeed, no one got to the Russians in the winter while we did... Enough said

and South too :D

they were not hiding tho ahahah

@@braconion ... You just can't see them.

I’ll get the bucket 🤣

Somebody bring me my brown pants!

Dogs are obedient and loyal. In every culture. No need for translation.

​@@scottashe984You could say the same of horses having a rather universal meaning but it's a little deeper than "he was an obedient and loyal companion" when talking nomads and animals. If he was "the khans horse" he would probably be their pope lol It's likely he wasn't particularly either of those things imo, as he was a very cunning and deceitful commander

loyal is right meaning. Never betray like dog.

That good to know never heard of him before

Plus Subatai was a genius military planner!

@president camacho well you must be blind if you don't notice the difference between Alexander's and Mongol's approach to conquest.

isnt he turkic?

@@jd749 I bet you admire Alexander the apparently great

Yes he does, had he never gotten credit this guy wouldn't have heard of him

self explanatory

Who is the judge of credit anyways

Credit for someone that slaughtered countless people?

@@chrismcteggart2100 well, that's probably not how he meant it. Credit for helping genghis khan in his conquest over hundreds of empires, i guess?

How did he died

​@@charminanderson6325 age/ilnness

Armchair warrior tactics.

Mongol tactics were light years away compared to Kievan Rus and Europe. It's not really that surprising.

It was literally like trolling to them. Literally everyone was tactically and strategically inferior, even Napoleon was a slower version with an edge in raw firepower, he might not have done well in a campaign against this Mongol army from 500 years earlier.

@@eoinsweetman9263 whoa. The Mongols were a horde and usually vastly outnumbered their opponents. To think a horde could beat an army of comparable numbers but with much better tactics and weapons is delusional. I'm sure Ceaser or Alezxander the Great would easily destroy the Mongols.

That is where you are very wrong mate. The mongol army was far from being a simple nomadic horde that enjoyed war, they were a professional seasoned and ruthless army. In open field I doubt any pre gun powder could compare. Their use of mounted archers and their tactics had no match in the ancient world. I highly recommend you listen to Dan Carlin's wrath of the khans.

@ Zero G , 🇲🇳🇲🇳🇲🇳

Kinda funny everyday people like you add in cool facts when the people making the video is making bank on an hour or two of research, of which an additional hour would've produced what you had mentioned. Gotta get that RU-vid $$$ I guess.

@@JohnDoe-vf2yo Yeah, so stuff like that mostly winds up getting cut due to time constraints. I mean, do you really think it takes an extra hour of research to scroll down and see the second half of a quote?

@thefeatheredsnake This was psychological warfare at its finest.

Thanks for correctly spelling Chinggis' name :)

Because, you know, Chinggis KHAN.

Well to fair they did invade from behind where as Napoleon and co attacked from the front.

What winter :)

It’s such a crazy thought. But hey Mongolia is pretty bloody cold right? Hahahaha.

@@emilypatricia6324 Yes! And keep in mind, back at this time, Mongolia also included much of Siberia and Kamchatka. So if anything, it was the Mongols who were better prepared for cold weather fighting. They weren't some fair weathered Europeans: they actually lived and worked outside during the Siberian winters.

Mongols vs the Empire. That would've been a sight to see

There's a possibility that they wouldn't have been successful in western Europe though. There was a much larger density of castles in western Europe and the Mongols were absolutely terrible at besieging castles. In fact after the first Mongol invasion of Hungary in 1241 the Hungarians built a network of castles/fortifications on the northeastern border, because they worked (supposedly none of the Hungarian castles fell to the Mongols during the first invasion). The second Mongol invasion in 1285 was a complete disaster, mostly due to the network of castles the Hungarians built. Close to their entire invasion force was killed or captured. I would personally guess that the Mongols would've been repelled in western Germany and France due to the high density of castles there.

@ Vandal Creed , Yes he was one of the GREATEST GENERALS to ever live ! Sadly he’s forgotten a bit

It would be really cool to see an Alt History show of this. What the world would have looked like if they had been successful and pushed all the way to the Atlantic. 🤯

@ Mammel248 , 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️ At the time Chinese and Mongols were sooooo much more advanced then Europe

Actually Napoleon did take Moscow as the Russians were scared and Hitler with an army 3 times smaller were 2 warm weeks away from getting Moscow, really Russians not very good at war unless they have many more numbers on the field..

@@geesun2007 thats the definition of being good at war. What a silly thing to say. Russias use of the land is one of the strengths they have used for centuries

I mean successful battle but didnt really make it to russia let alone conquered.

@@geesun2007 aswell Napoleon pushed into moscow because they let him. They have done it many times in history. He failed like so many others.

And during the German invasion led by Hitler. Mongols sent 500,000 horses and lots of wool so Russian Army can make winter clothes and to have enough food to feed their soldiers. That time Hitler knew he made a grave mistake.

That was primarily the Kwaresh or whatever they were called. Gjenghis gave them the option to stay a kingdom and become his allies and trading partners. They decided he was a joke and killed off his emissaries and took all the valuables they were carrying. Wrong move, as not a single of their cities have ever been erected again, after their destruction and their ruins can still be visited in the middle east

That's the official reason, you should know Mongols themselves killed representatives too (regardless of what changhes Khan muttered about killing them). You have to understand they are smart and brilliant, still genocidal psychopaths.

Its amazing how many rulers killed Mongol envoys despite most likely hearing of the terror and destruction that followed the previous envoy murders.

If you've seen the documentaries it was surprisingly common for any country they crossed in that period.. for just their emissaries. Which means the terms were often outrageous and/or insulting for people who often knew little or nothing about Mongol force.

Not all their enemies killed their emissaries, that was a big no no in their traditions and a direct reason whole populations got put to the sword. I've studied this extensively and you's may watch about it almost any other RU-vid documentary on them.

only army personell who study tactics and strategies learn about hiim now. In history class etc lots of BIAS information...

Well, maybe for how important he truly was he doesn’t get the same level of popular recognition that Genghis or Kublai get

@@aslof1069 not surprised. foreign countries have a big bias against us mongolians when it comes to history. but in mongolia the name "Subutai" is still very well known. even i, who used to sleep thru classes i didnt care about such as history, somehow know his name and his exploits

And one of the most evil man, cameras were just not there yet for them to receive the same treatment as nazis

@@user-xg6sx5ev9u famous generals are not angels

We never ate anything raw but OK...

@@dorjjodvo1992 alot of the dangerous mongols and turks ate bloody or raw meat. İt was an act of cruelty and ignorance for weak and unimportant matters

@@dorjjodvo1992 Not entirely raw. The Mongols put raw meat under the saddle of their horses, and as they traveled the pressure from the saddle and heat from the horseback made the meat tender and edible.

I think you mean Audio Book

This was a stolen comment.

@@phillipdavidson5621 do you not know what a phone book is?

Gay.

@@boogityhoo7452 🤣🤣

Listen to Wrath of the Khans by Dan Carlin. You might have to buy it but its the best podcast about the Mongolians under Ghengis Khan

Not exactly looking them up but RU-vid's algorithm has been clutch.

@@joshuapannell8131 I second that recommendation, Dan Carlin is the man! I've listened to many hours of his epic podcast. From the Romans to the Mongols to the World Wars, hes the best thing for a history nut that doesn't have time to read 100s of books. I agree the Mongols episodes were awesome.. I actually clicked on this video because of his mention of Temujin and Subutai and I wanted to learn more.. Ive also been playing Ghost of Tsushima and I think thats why this video was recommended to me in the first place. That game is incredible. If your into history and video games, then give Kingdom Come: Deliverance a try. Its probably really cheap right now and its about the Cumans invasion of medieval Europe. The Cumans are essentially Mongols, but this comment is long enough already! Point is, history is awesome.. To predict the future, just look to the past! Happy gaming and learning my friends!

Guilty

Joey III Probably just you and a handful of millennials 😃 The rest of us knew about mongols before w video game shed light on them. Lol

Hahaha, not a lot of people got that joke

What is best in life?!

Yes and it was Subati that rescued Conan from the “Tree of Woe”.

Ah yes the missing 6 months of his life after pursuing the Iranian prince.

Subutai’s check list: 1) see his enemies scattered before him 2) hear the lamentations of the women

Hope not, he was as cruel as any nazi general, it’s good to remember it for military purpose but those mongols generals were responsible for killing almost 10% of the humans population, they deserve no respect at all

@ Andrew Suryali , 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️ As a Mongolian I don’t like Guyuk for that, and Then later Monghke didn’t exactly go for Europe

@B Whit Mongol's horses were female. They ate grass, and the Mongols drank their milk mixed with some blood, along with anything else they could find. And China was so powerful militarily compared to Europe that for the Mongols, it was like beating the final boss and going back to the first campaign.

@B Whit hahaah, dont change the topic girl. By the way, i am not from Mongolia. In addition, i dont live in peasant. As i can see, you want to be my fields peasant. Interestingly , but i dont want you baby. Unfortunately, i already have enough workers like you. As for Eurasian steps, you are totally wrong. Kazakhstan, Mongolia and even Hungary have step.

@B Whit the mongols could have easily conquered europe, if they had really put the effort.

Interesting with my little knowledge of the time .I find your comments interesting.

I think he's the greatest Asian general along with Khalid Ibn Al Walid and Cyrus the Great.

@@DC-zi6se Hz. Ali was the best general

Yes. The biggest killer of women and children in History. He should not be admired.

@ Vladimir Kraus , LoL you actually believe that non sense and yes it is partially true but you have to see he was AMAZING he was great and honorable. He only killed those that refused to surrender and fought and only killed women and children when he had, you have to do such thing if you wanna do great things

@@vladimirkraus1438 doesn't mean he wasnt a good general lol

I would rate Hannibal Barca slightly above him as a military strategist

@@PauloAlexoliveira Good choice👍 However not mine.

I have Khaleed in high regard however Alexander doesn't even get close to him. Khaleed and Subutai died of old age and are known for winning most battles as a general. Where Khaleed fought mostely in the Middle East. Subutai invaded kingdoms in Asia,Middle East,Caucasus,Russia and Eastern Europe conquering the largest amount teritory as a general (difference of enviroment and climate) In the militairy he's recognized for it as well. Advice:starting a dialogue with lmoa isn't the way.

@Saifuzzaman Dipto Subutai (Classical Mongolian: Sübügätäi or Sübü'ätäi; Tuvan: Сүбэдэй, [sybɛˈdɛj]; Modern Mongolian: Сүбээдэй, Sübeedei. [sʊbeːˈdɛ]; Chinese: 速不台; 1175-1248) was a Mongolian general and the primary military strategist of Genghis Khan and Ögedei Khan. He directed more than 20 campaigns and won 65 pitched battles, during which he conquered or overran more territory than any other commander in history as part of the expansion of the Mongol Empire.[1] He often gained victory by means of imaginative and sophisticated strategies and routinely coordinated movements of armies that operated hundreds of kilometers apart from each other. Subutai is well known for the geographical diversity and success of his expeditions, which took him from central Asia to the Russian steppe and into Europe.

@Saifuzzaman Dipto Your opinion is clearly based on litteraly knowing nothing about Subutai.

If he only defended his country then yes, he would deserve credit. But he attacked and killed millions for nothing. A kind of Hitler he was.

@@vladimirkraus1438 so what? He still defeated large armies with brilliant tactics

@Saifuzzaman Dipto he almost always was outnumbered. So Persia, kievan rus and Hungary were weak? He has won far more battles than Alexander and conquered far more land . He is untouchable

@Saifuzzaman Dipto achaemenids were on a brink of ruin also Darius iii was shockingly awful especially is the battle of gaugamela. Subutai tactics are probably the closest thing to a modern espionage warfare which is often planned for many many years prior and involves destabilize the intended regions alienating them diplomatically using natural resources such as rivers and forests and of course psychological warfare

@Saifuzzaman Dipto _ 20 military campaigns(often across multiple nations) _ 32 nations defeated _ 65 pitched battles ( often against forces double or more his forces size) _ conquered more territory than any military leader in HISTORY It is fair to say that although genghis khan would have had a truly successful career alone , without subutai the mongol empire would not have reached the scale it did

And he was also a freemason

Isnt that the guy who DAD was a pope

The guy that Ezio threw off a wall?

I second this. He's an utterly fascinating guy and a great case for so many historical "What if..."s

He was also Jesus

And a logistical genius. He knew when he had enough, how long it'd take for supplies to come and when they were in danger for a campaign.

@@michaellejeune7715 one would think he was a time traveller ore something he was just so ahead of everything.

Jihadi Sultans 2 they weren’t human ? What?

TheMetalHeadbangger tactics, not strategy.

Jihadi Sultans 2 the Turkic tribes were also the enemies of the Mongols

Same here chief

Polo spoke of kublai khan and of bayan of the hundred eyes, but it is by no means clear whether he actually met them or whether he just embellished stories he had heard of. There is no historical evidence to place marco polo at the great khans court or as coleridge called it Zanadu ( where alf the sacred river ran through caverns unknown to man down to a sunless sea).

Odoreater ahh yes but through the eyes of a dog would be better! Perhaps you could host

@@kevi152 Main reason is that Mongols Hate Khubilai because he actually developer China and created the capital city in Beijing. Build 20,000 schools etc. But left Mongolia as to be a nation of warriors. For that Mongols hate him and consider him as Chinese.

Netflix lost many millions on that show. That's why it was canceled.

I absolutely loved those series and even re-watched them... such absolute quality master piece, I have no idea how they could loose money on it.

Didnt they slice one of their heads off though

@ Dante monterey , Well not exactly

Were is subotai 😂

And then there were the vikings who did the exact opposite as the blood eagle was reserved only for noblemen and royalty. Everyone else had to make due with getting their heads cut off.

Seems like if you slowly crush a dude some of the blood will leak out but I suppose it's the effort that counts.

Yeah...we've been able to do that long before the internet came along..😐

Of course, it's not that controversial, as time goes on, we put greatness over ethics, because all victims, who can influence our perception, pass away due old age.

Eh, Hitler had too many personal flaws that his conquests can't cover up, plus he wasn't much of a military genius either. And as his world went down in flames, he bitched and whined about how everyone else was at fault for his rotten luck.

Hitler is remembered as evil because of the Holocaust. If Hitler kept his war crimes to the battlefield, I would say maybe. As it stands, no, he will he seen as history’s super villain

@sa Uh, no. He was a lazy, pompous man whose method of fixing the German economy was by shoring it up for a war that it could never win. He and his buddies made numerous mistakes that worsened the situation, which he would always blame someone else for. When it became clear the war was lost, he and his inner circle decided to just live in luxury while ordering the soldiers and civilians to die for them so they could delay their appointment with the hangman's noose for as long as possible. Operation Barbarossa was littered with logistics problems, but he and his generals ignored them out of racism.

Imagine trying to use modern emotions on past. Like it is almost 1000 years now and we have grown as humans. Don't get me wrong he was a cruel man but so was everyone in those time

thanks for the recommendation. Ill definitely listen while riding my motorcycle today

Fidus Achates Not really. The idea of civilized Europe, barbaric non-Europeans was an idea that had existed since Ancient Greece, though that was just classic tribalistic mentality where only Greeks are civilized. The Romans had similar ideas, but they expanded that idea by bringing Latin culture to all parts of their empire. Of this, they found great success in Gaul, Britannia, Hispania, or to put it simply, in their European territories (save for the Greeks entrenched in the traditional Greek spheres of influence). The Latinization process by the Romans has made Gaul and Hispania less of a barbarian province and more of a new Rome overseas. They are more attached to mother Rome more than the Syrians, Egyptians, North Africans, and other provincials in the other parts of the Roman Empire. As a result, they saw themselves more as a separate entity even amidst of Rome’s Mediterranean empire. In short, culturally, you got the Latins in Italy and the Latinized provinces who followed after Rome, the Greeks, and the traditional cultures of the provincials that has been not fully embraced either the Greeks or the Latins. The division of the empire into two, a process that already began in the 4th century AD but formalized by Constantine’s decision to move the empire’s capital eastward, solidified this divide even further. The lost of provinces in Egypt, Syria, and Africa to the Muslims discounted the provincials there from ever fully embracing the Greek or Latin way. But in areas where Greeks and Latins had been established, the people there still didn’t lose their culture and faith even after a change in management. When the Germanic barbarian tribes invaded the western Roman Empire, they carve up new kingdoms in Gaul, Hispania, Britannia, and Italia. However, Latin culture wasn’t lost, but rather persevere and got mixed into the local Germanic culture. These are the Romantic cultures like Italians, Spanish, Portuguese, and French. Given their similarities, the idea of European distinction with the other people outside of their traditional domain lingers on. When Spin was lost to the Moors, the people there sill didn’t lose their Visigothic culture in favor of adopting the Moorish way of life, but they persevere instead. Christian Europe only saw the expansion of this idea of European distinction to cover new lands until it reached what we today consider as Europe. Both the Holy Roman Empire (under Charlemagne) and the Eastern Roman Empire (under the Orthodox emperors) are active in promoting their culture and religion to neighboring pagan tribes (either diplomatically or by force). As a result, this idea of Europe, by then already restricted away from the south and east of the former Roman Empire by the Muslims, began to be received in central Europe and even in Eastern Europe (in what was the former Soviet Union). The Bulgars and Serbs were converted and later called Constantinople their overlord, thus bringing them to the fold of Europe. The Holy Roman Empire, under the blessing of the Pope in Rome, brought in the former Germanic frontier to adopt Christianity and incorporated them as new lands for the HRE. Further conquests and diplomacy against the people of the Baltic region later brought in Poland and the Baltic states. When Christianity was first adopted by the Romans, it led to the blending of Christianity with Roman and Greek culture. Ideas, traditions, and thought processes that was exclusively Roman or Greek at the time has now already been baptized and fully supported by the Church. The Church did removed many Latin and Greek forms of paganism, but for the large part it preserved and even incorporated Roman and Greek ideas as Christian ones, including the idea of European exclusivity. Now, you got missionaries to even further lands that helped spread this idea of European exclusivity even to Scandinavia and Ireland, only rebranded as Christian fellowship amongst nations. The fact that Christian missionaries at this time failed at penetrating even further than the boundaries of Europe means that this concept would remain a very Euro-centric idea until the Age of Exploration. Even during the Age of Exploration, such missionary efforts were heavily tied to European imperialism and exploration due to old habits, which would continue well into the 18th-20th century, where Europeans finally were able to have more freedom in sending missionaries to the Muslim world, even to areas that used to be a part of the Roman Empire.

Pretty sure it's based on the ancient divide between Greek-Roman civilization in the west and Persians, Parthians and others in the East. Europe is a peninsula. A very large one, but to pretend it isn't there is rather silly. South America is connected to North America. That does not mean it doesn't exist either.

@Fishslap 33 North America & South America are on two separate tectonic plates. This is what makes them two separate continents. A continent is defined by its plate tectonics, studied through scientific fields known as geology & geography. The reason India is known as a subcontinent is because it occupies a separate continental shelf, which merged with Eurasia approx 35 million years ago. Christianity came from the “middle east”, predating Islam. There are ancient Christian communities still present in the “middle east” today. This fact might give you food for thought concerning the spread of people & their ideas throughout history. Migrations of people are well documented in historical records & archeological discoveries. The division between Europe and Asia as two different continents is a historical social construct, with no clear physical separation between them. There is no “European” race or place. “Europe” doesn’t exist as a defined landmass or a political entity. It exists solely in the realm of belief. There is no general consensus on where “Europe” ends, or where “Asia” begins. Its borders are geologically arbitrary. Your back garden has a boundary, a perimeter, & thus is more legitimate than “Europe”. Some think Russia is in “Europe”, some do not. Some think Turkey is in “Europe”, others do not. If Turkey is in “Europe”, why not Syria? Or Iraq? Or Iran?... If Russia, then why not Mongolia? The “European” model does not hold water. The continent is *Eurasia* Google: How many continents are there in geology? (General scientific consensus says six) Have you ever done a DNA test? If you consider yourself European, then you might be surprised to find some “Asian” ancestry in your bloodline. I’m not saying you can’t identify as a “European”. We have whole communities identifying as all sorts of things. Be a Jedi, if you want. But I think there is a need to have some consensus on the physical nature of things.

@@You-Got-Served Continents were defined long before anyone knew that there were tectonic plates. Also, by that definition, North America is two continents because it sits on two separate tectonic plates, So is Africa. And of course India isn't a part of Eurasia now, if we go by your definition. So it is a terrible definition. Continents were defined by geography, not tectonics. Geographically Europe is a subcontinent. It was for a very long time also completely isolated from anything to the east, only connecting to it at all through the Middle East and much later through Russia. That's why it was considered a separate continent, because it might as well have been. So it also has cultural, religious, philosophical and political aspects. Western, European culture was completely different from Asian culture. There is absolutely zero need to redefine things to conform to some weird notion of scientific truth in labeling. Particularly one that makes North America and Africa two continents when they obviously are not.

Aw, bless you dude. I didn't know that I expect it's a mistake that one person made and others just assumed was correct but it's a pretty daft mistake all the same. Trying to personify Subatai and his army as war dogs I think does them a massive injustice.

Could be a pun

Kaiser Willhelm: Laughs in Brest Listovsk

Casper, They did not invade Russia, they invaded Russian princes. They were routed when the first time the Russians came together by Dimitriy Donskoy and after they ended up much worse by the hand of Ivan the terrible.

@deliverence You are stupid because did not understand what I wrote. Again.... The mongols controlled the Russian princes and as long as they payed tribut to them left them alone. If they did not then the mongols interfered. Ordidary Russian peasants were conducting their ordinary life without mongol control.

Me to

Not to justify his actions, but the demon war dog would only massacre everyone in a city he conquered if they murdered the emissaries he sent first to demand their surrender, vassalage or alliance. I'm not sure why murdering of diplomats was so frequent back then, a simple "NO" would have suffice?

How about your roman empire then , why do you always point on others.

True Europe was nothing! Türk from western Balkan!

And Chagatai khanate/central asia.

Khalid would have defeated them both

Saifuzzaman Dipto Alexander is not a general

Saifuzzaman Dipto “he conquered or overran more territory than any other commander in history as part of the expansion of the Mongol Empire.”

Saifuzzaman Dipto ok ..but Alexander has generals too !

Saifuzzaman Dipto 🤝

There was no Russia yet

@Devilman_ nope it didn't. Comparing modern day Russia to Kievan Rus is a fool's errand to run.

it is Rus Principalities :)

actually, winter was easier for the mongol horse than the spring marshiness. (rivers were frozen and hence passable).

Subotai is snowman so it’s easy for him in winter won Russia

Well said. And it's precisely because of that structure that the Mongol army were often never flanked nor cut off from support. They all travelled as units, teams and that self sustainability allowed for the Mongol army not to rely on supply lines from a home base as you'd see with MANY other former Dynasty's. I am so glad that the history of these events has been preserved and recovered though it does make me wonder... what more we don't know of the Mongol Empire's history.

And evil

Yep, got his genes.

They didn't have youtube to occupy their evenings back then...

@Skunk Ape Wait, I thought it was 2% of people have his genes, closer to 10% that had Mongol genes, and the 1/3 thing was only applicable to the Eurasian Steppe. Impressive nonetheless.

Idk why this made me think of the Monty Python "Genghis sitcom" sketch...

Skunk Ape well I did the math and actually everybody on earth is descended from genghis due to him having at least a 1000 kids.