@@wolverineboy97 Possible, but might also be that he was so in on more important stuff that that didnt even matter to him. I think it was implied that kendall has multiple empty Flats as Assets
@@jacobp8294 well of course. It's one thing to go from 40k to 200. But to loose more than 75% of your salary when you got used to the lifestyle is difficult. 40k in NYC...good luck. I highly doubt Kendall is still letting him have that apartment he lent him in s02. So pretty much his entire salary will go to rent while everyday he's surrounded by million/billionaires.
Listen, as a new yorker who can't even afford a studio apartment on $52k/yr unless I put 50% of my income towards rent, yeah dropping to $40k would be devastating for Greg, but the way people are acting like $200k/yr is LOW is insane lol. Tom has it right, no assistant with fuck all skills makes $200k, Greg only makes that much as a nepo baby. $200k/yr--especially if you're not paying rent--still means being very comfortable in NYC.
This is the right answer. $200K is a ton of money for most people. It's only when you're surrounded by ultra-wealthy people who splash millions like they're spending peanuts that $200k seems tiny
It's only small compared to his supposed $250mil or $5mil inheritance 😮 it would take 25 years to make $5mil if Greg saved 100% of his money Which is still more money than most people will ever make in their lifetime but man really puts in perspective how rich the rich ppl truly are
Don't know where this late game obsession with shouting nepo baby at fictional characters came from but its clown behaviour. No shit he got the foot in the door based on nepotism, this has been true since season 1 episode 1 but you guys only ever called him a nepo baby when you started to dislike the character. weird behaviour.
@@TESkyrimizer I honestly don't think Ewan was ever going to give Greg a 250 mil inheritance. He was just using that to try and get Greg out of waystar
Ewan would have never given him the money to begin with. He'd probably give him a speech on how he must learn to make it himself after fucking him out of ATN...
This scene is a nice illustration of how Greg is the only person Tom trust the feedback from. Greg is the closest thing Tom has in form of a person he can talk to. Which is why Tom in the end is willing to go out of his way to keep Greg around. Through the seasons we see his contemt only grows for Shiv, while the fondness increases for Greg.
Yeah I think he’s getting paid 200k a year and being threatened with 40k a year which honestly is likely what happens since Tom is only keeping Greg in the end out of kindness (and to watch him squirm) and Mattson considers him a Judas. Super thin ice
@@Kigoz4Life Greg gave all the cruises docs to Kendall to use in Ken's attempted takedown of Logan. Ken's legal team in turn determined the info in the docs were worthless and he oversold them. Also, the cruises scandal happened long before Tom took over, so there'd be nothing there to specifically incriminate him.
Plus that's probably his base salary. He likely gets travel paid for, health care of course, shares/stocks and bonuses.... if you look at his whole compensation including the free apartment it's probably closer to a million a year.
Many are cynical but I think Toms forgiveness of Greg at the end was sincere, sincere to their bromance. I think he realised he fucked up by winding Greg up in this scene and that he would have done the exact same as Greg in that position.
@@yungoldman2823 the cruise papers were given to Kendall and they were useless, nothing has Tom’s name on it and Greg doesn’t have leverage. It was a move done to keep Greg around as his loyal underling, instead of destroying him he kept him. That inspires loyalty in people.
He does care about Greg, but not in the way people think. Tom was at the bottom of the family hierarchy, barely a blip on the radar because he's Shiv's husband. He wouldn't be in the room if otherwise. And Greg, while family, is lower than him. He's the only one that he can bully, despite him being Logan's grandnephew. It's an older brother-younger brother relationship if mom was never around to check on the boys. EDIT: fixed some spelling errors.
In that world, 200k is nothing to be honest...but a miserable 40k is probably more realistic for someone who is not part of the family. The point here is to gaslight Greg into thinking he's making a fortune (that he should be ashamed of) and that fortune is at risk when he's just getting the scraps. Remember Greg in S1 was making pennies, he doesn't know his worth.
@@ladyluckmisao He's the assistant of the CEO not to a random person. Anyway, he's part of the family that owns billions. 200k are crumbles for them. They probably make that much in 1 or 2 days or less.
Greg isn't bad at making reasonable requests though. Like, why is Greg so good at making deals with people who regularly forget he exists? Because he gives them something they want *now* , and he asks for something they can give him *now* . $200k is nothing for these people but it's a lot for Greg, and that's what matters to him. Climbing is all about finding the next handhold. You don't need to climb all the way up you just need to climb to one higher spot than the last.
This shows just how little people realize billionaires are worth. The siblings each made 6 billion at the sale of the company. They aren’t making 200k every couple days. They are making 200k every 20 seconds, they are making 16 million a DAY
Greg turned down $250,000,000 from his Grandfather for $200,000 a year... maybe even $40,000 now... And in New York, that's like, barely enough to live on.
That is if his grandfather sold all his shares on waystar or meets untimely death. Besides, value of share fluctuates. A quarter a billion isn't certain or liquid.
@@bryanl3659 he underestimated his granddad's conviction. He thought he could do both. He certainly likes the power and prestige, not just the money, and hes too incompetent to make anything out of himself, no matter how rich he is
@@mino-taur How much conviction could he possibly have? He sided with the idiot brothers at the board meeting even after what they pulled during election night.
Biggest mysteries of Succession: 1. What exactly is Greg's job besides being Tom's punching bag? 2. How did Kendall and Rava get married? 3. Why is Tabitha (Roman's ex from end of Season One to Season 2) entire arc is her sitting down while laughing and smiling? Does she has no other expressions than that? 4. Where is Gerri's daughter that she mentioned many times? 5. Gerri is also a lawyer? 6. What happened to Marcia's son from the end of Season One who was the key witness of Kendall's car accident which lead him to accidentally killed a waiter? 7. Why are Shiv and Roman not having any other friends or at least one best friend like Stewie to Kendall to help them get their moral compass? 8. What exactly is Willa's playwright is all about and why are we never see how it looks like? Is it really that bad that she got bad reviews from the critics? 9. What happened to The PGM 10 Billion dollar Deal in the finale? And also what about The Hundred? Did the siblings even remember that? 10. Is Mattson lying about the subscribers in India?
yea but all of the roys are like, individually billionaires (even his grandfather is worth what, like 250M?) so 200k a year is like chump change for them and a man in his position
@@mattycampy I'm talking about cost of living in NYC with the expenses he needs to have. Sure you can slum, but they would make fun of him mercilessly for being the subway boy who can't stay late cos he needs to get home to queens and shop at whatever department store
@@__D10S__ Ewan is a bit of a dick. Greg was broke and had to seek out his great uncle to get a job. Remember in throwing up in the mascot costume? Ewan didn't give him anything but didn't want him to work at Waystar Royco. Ewan is a dick.
anyone else disappointed/surprised he was only making 200k?? especially where he was the future CEOs right hand man with the promise of having other Gregs underneath him, add to that the cost of living in NYC... no wonder he was relegated to the California Pizza Kitchen when he got his first paycheck.
It's really not a high salary in the world the show takes place in. There's lower middle management in finance making that much in NYC. Greg is exec assistant to the almost most senior chief officer who's likely making millions in annual salary.
On paper he has no worth due to no schooling and no previous industry work experience, that 200k is basically just a representation of the hyper specialized use he developed on himself for the Dots
Well.. Considering that Karolina made a million a year. You can probably say Tom made a little bit more of that because he was a direct boss of an entire branch of the company. But not THAT MUCH. so probably 1.2 million or something. And Tom didn't spend anything either because he lived in Shiv's place. Rom and Ken probably 1.5 1.8... But again, never having to spend actually, because even the cars were company own. So 200k it's a lot for just an assistant 😂😂
You're way low. The Fox News CEO makes $21.75M a year. $4M in cash and the rest in options. And ATN is basically equivalent to Fox News in all regards in the Succession universe.
Tom is head of ATN which is directly comparable to Fox News. Fox News CEO Suzanne Scott is estimated to make $5-8m. so Tom probably makes a lot more than Karolina... She is clearly a competent PR executive but is not directly responsible for any revenue generation.
Law firm secretaries can make $100k a year. Greg being executive assistant to the head of ATN and now the CEO of a fortune 500 corporation, 200k is actually not uncommon.
It absolutely is uncommon and it would only come with many decades of experience and probably responsibilities beyond those typical of an executive assistant.
The only two dudes in the Roy family that seemed to do actual work, and they were constantly blown off the Roy kids. Man, this whole series was just so frustrating (in a good way), watching Shiv, Ken, and Rom just fuck everything up like the unserious, overly ambitious kids they are.
Nobody working in media at that level supporting someone so high up is making as low as 40K a year. 200K is not even that much in the world these people are in.
@@RealmDesigner A personal assistant to an executive for a multinational corp based in NYC is making well into 6 figures. No question about it. Tom was just fucking with him.
I feel like Tom in this scene more often than I care to admit. All the way down to the huge promotion. Death is perceived to be imminent, until you’re handed the keys to the kingdom. Then repeat cycle.
Tom almost fucked himself here by saying this to Greg. He wouldnt have snitched if he didnt think he was getting his salary slashed with Mattson in charge.
Yes he would have lol. This is what Greg has done to literally everyone at every point in this show. He has zero loyalties, he plays every possible side he can at all times.
@@TJS1028 That would be very easy, especially if you're like Greg and single with no dependents. Plus Greg doesn't have to worry about rent. Kendall gave him a million dollar apartment for free. People are massively overstating the cost of living in NYC. It's certainly more expensive than the rest of the country, but the median salary there is still only $60k, and the median household income is around $68k. If, individually, you're making even $100k per year, you're well off no matter where you live.
Shiv voted against Kendall because the siblings bonded over his confession he killed the waiter. Then lied in the finale and said he didn't. Shiv also wanted to save her marriage to Tom with baby coming..
I enjoy the series the missing part is the value of these resources never seem to be placed towards education practical skills or certifications. 200k and $5m dollar apartment Greg should be absorbing information investing in his own infrastructure and it’s dizzy to think that the inversion of this is a the poor man’s climb up the ladder that Tom’s or better Roman’s “Friend” in the parks department. They all reaping the fruits of others discipline and demands more control and opportunity based on unproven results. “Not Serious people”
A year? A month? In US you usually say the annual pay, but $200k (while it would be AMAZING for me) is not that much for a New Yorker who works for guys that own half the world.
I dont know why everybody thinks Ewan would have followed through with the inheritance. Also when is that old bastard going to die? It was an uncertain future for Greg
Ewan was a massive hypocrite -- he sniped from the sidelines, keeps his seat and collects the money, and he tries to bully Greg into quitting a job when Greg's got no money. I'm not a Greg fan, but you can understand why he stuck it out.
Isnt 40k per year almost fast food level of salary? I am not from US but 40k seems to be absurd, considering his position it is almost equal to get fired
40k is above fast food level wages in most areas. 40k is 20 hour. US minimum wage is 7.25 federally, no state has a minimum wage of 20 hour. You cant live in Manhattan on 40k.
@@TheWeastBeast I mean there a reason why he’s the highest paid assistant in history lol. He also a Roy and him getting grossly overpaid as compared to competent professionals would make a lot of sense in show like succession.
Is $200k a lot of money? Sure. But it's also inconsistent with what we see in the series. You don't get your own office at fictional Fox News if you're only making $200k. It's also not what the "bottom of the top" makes at a company worth a little under $100 billion, AND Greg still had the owed favor from Logan, for the joint defense agreement. That would definitely give him a job with a much higher salary, but he didn't exercise it.
Isit me or does Tom secretly likes Gregg. He uses him to blow off steam and Gregg is quite good at taking it. I think Tom keeps him around because he generally likes him.
hes definitely talking hyperbole id bet Greg is getting probably like a 100k minimum. which obviously for the class of people hes hanging with probably doesnt feel great
Very happy Tom won. Despite its flaws he is least miserable person in the show (with the big exception of Greg) Greg is such an innocent lovable goof. Someone I would be happy to see if my daughter brought him home.
Even in NYC $200k can go a long way for a single 20 something year old who has no rent and is probably expensing every meal to his company card. Only actual expense is the coke on election night.
