SUFFERING | Epic: The Musical (Full Animatic) (Thunder Saga) 

Thunder bringer/mutiny pls

I think different beast would be interesting after this

Different beast, I think your animation style would be great for it 👍

Scylla? :3

Different beast or thunder bringer.

Especially at 2:22 when she gives up the facade, and is just angry

And the fact that Ody is clearly also messing with her at the end there lol

"food is still yapping" this is so funny on so many levels especially bc odysseus is a known yapper

​@@nai3381yapper of Ithaca

Definitely the best part of this song 😂😂

Wait, I didnt even realize the sirens, thats so good

One by one the sirens are being captured.

Right?! When I first listened to this, it felt like an illusion Odysseus has to overcome. But knowing the context and seeing how Camalemsy animated it makes it feel like Odysseus is such a troll

It's "losing." You can lose a rope and loose a tied rope.

@@sdathomas5088 I've never been more thankful for a comment, I swear I never knew the difference and it always bothered me lmao (same with laid lay lied, lie and lie and all that, that confuses me so much 😭)

Sirens: scared of the WATER?? on a ship in the SEA???

​@@tumblingartistwell I mean, he _is_ in a ship. Not in the water

I LOVED THAT - they were like "dude YOU LIVED ON AN ISLAND"

That part was SO GOOD

​@@lynx.09321 As someone who's lived on an island all my life (and can't swim)... I take this as a personal attack

I imagine that a lot of what he's saying in the song is true; "I would do anything for you" "I would die for you" Because he would for Penelope.

​@@warningdeadinside2537it is! there's an acoustic guitar playing, meaning Odysseus is being vulnerable. he is speaking like he *is* speaking to his wife, even though he knows it's not actually her

They draw him cunning and lying because he is. He's playing along with her trick. He's a monster at this point after the turning point in underworld saga.

What I love the most is that the first thing he says to siren's Penelope after her line of "Don't you miss me?", is this: "More than you know". Yes, Ody misses Penelope, more than this siren could ever know. He wasn't even talking to her, technically

love that line, "the more dangerous hunter"

​@@laith8116 You could even say he's a... different beast now, perhaps even the one who feasts now

@@tylerbranson2099 this comment is great

​@@tylerbranson2099 Or you could say that he's the man made monster... and even the one who conquers...

@@Ericaglan You might also say.. he won't take more suffering..

Lol I love the “I’m out of dialogue options”

Puahahah

To be fair though, in Homer's "The Odyssey", this "Siren Penelope" didn't happen. When Ody and the crew were about to sail where the sirens were, the crew just used beeswax to cover their ears so that they wouldn't hear the sirens' songs. (For context, if a person heard the song of a siren, they would be hypnotized and jump from the boat to the water.) Odysseus, on the other hand, still wanted to hear their voices, so no beeswax for him and he asked to be tied up to one of the masts of the ship so he couldn't jump to the water. You can imagine him trying to get out of the rope until they got out of that place lol In addition, Scylla's lair is just huge a rock, which means they were just on open seas and not in a cave-like place just like how Epic portrays it. The path they had to travel to was between Scylla and Charybdis- which we would only see in Epic after Odysseus gets out of Calypso's Island. When the crew were planning how to get between the two monsters, Scylla attacked of the crew, so everyone just tried to get past them as fast as possible so that no one else can get eaten. So yeah, there were no sirens captured to begin with and Odysseus did not really willingly sacrificed his men :DD There's a lot more inconsistencies between this part in The Odyssey and this whole Thunder Saga (like Odysseus really was not given the chance to choose who lives and who dies. Zeus struck their ship and Ody just miraculously survives). But who cares? Epic is on a whole 'nother level. I wouldn't mind more inconsistencies from the original poem; the songs are so incredible😭🙏🏻

I feel like most if not all inconsistencies make the message of EPIC stronger, I mean I cannot tell you how surprised I was when I realized the Ody had to choose to kill his own men rather than just holding on rlly tight to a keel that shit hurt and also made him way more ruthless but mostly it hurt and I’m sad now

​​@@mayonnaiseee14Actually, this is one thing Jorge DID get from the Odyssey - sacrificing six men I mean. Now Odysseus didn't hand out torches like he does here, but he DOES know that Scylla will kill six people and he DOES refuse to tell the crew because...well, why would you? They have no choice but to go through Scylla anyway, why upset them first? It's not presented as a moral dilemma and he doesn't hand out torches but he does know six people will die and hide it from the crew.

He couldn't 1, they would rot as the journey to silla would have been days and the bodies would rot

"Oh tee hee Penelope, you know I'm too shy and have a crippling fear of drowning" lol

Ody is such a drama queen and I'm all here for it

​@@blueteller "tee hee, come on, come on the ship and give me a kiss uwu" (*sharpens the arrow)

He really is 😅

Penelope why ? You know I'm too ✨️shy ✨️ 👉👈🥺

Thank you 😆 He's one of the girlies hehe

@@camalemsyyour honor, that man is my babygirl (i wanna squeeze him till he pops like a stress ball)

Yes it was intentional :DD And thank youu

Why did i never realize😅

They are in the water!

It might also be because sirens were depicted as wind/water sprits that punished unfaithful men. Maybe they thought he wqs just loyal and nervous?

Well, there are two explanations: The voice of the sirens is not an absolute power, it only accentuates their seduction/persuasion. But a dialogue must occur between them and their victim. So some may take more or less time to be dissuaded depending on their willpower. The other option is that they rely heavily on imitating the shape of loved ones to convince victims to listen to them. And they achieve the latter by first spying and using the information learned to make their dialogues more convincing.

Yes! That’s exactly what I imagined her doing when I listened to it

Sirenope I love it lol

I too WOULD, yes. ... Um. No. I mean... What was I saying?

I was more confused with the daughter part😂 I was like: huh? Since when is telemachos a girl ?

@@heyitsaaliyah6059 so was most of the chat lol you're not alone 😅

I mean- she probably doesn’t 😂😂

Right but if you’re pretending to be someone’s wife at least act like it. I ensure you that Penelope wouldnt not give a shi- about that

@@_Valentino4ever_ you know you’re right. But I think that in this case the siren just got cocky and already assumed that she had him

@@danawilliam5676 oh. That makes sense!

"That's crazy"

Same tho, I literally just finished watching the wip and commenting on it and now RU-vid recommended the final version 😂

Hahaha thank you sm for watching!! The song was just so good that I had to devote all my time into making this 😆

*Odysseus lol

Wrong Greek Character starting with an O lol

What funny is that in Odyssey, it's prophet who tells them not to eat Helios cattle and to get there, they need to go through Scylla or Charybdis. Odysseus and crew went to back to Circe for the maps and she told Odysseus that it's better to went to Scylla.

Thank you so much!!

Ikr, I haven't seen a fandom this dedicated since the Dream SMP fandom.

Thank you so much sfagfaqfa

i mean the siren just guest and he might be disgusted because the siren is copying the love of his life

I have literally watched the rough version just now and when I went to check your profile for more animatics, the full version was there! I love how more and more annoyed the siren's getting. And Poseidon's trident 😀(love it) Also Odyseuss just 👍🙂👍... brilliant!

I'm so glad you both liked it!!

Thank you!

What sadder is that in Odyssey, the sirens are fated to die once sailors survive their songs. When Odysseus and his crew did, they faded.

He did. In the next song, different beasts, he explains everything

Thank you so much!! So glad you liked it hehe