We watched ARE YOU SURE #4 and RUN JIN #2. Twitch is not saving my livestreams anymore. 8 need to look into it. I'll find a way so you can watch them. Just ask for a little patience to figure things out. 🩷
Oh no! I watched your live on yt but opted not to watch the stream on twitch as it was already about 2am. I was so looking forward to watching it on replay 😢
You have to understand he suffers from depression and it's probably creeping up on him in the dark. I've been there. I hope his family members and staff watch over Him. We love him no matter what and like you said it was nothing. But Antis and kmedia spread it like wildfire and it's hard to NOT HEAR it. All we can do is STAND BY SUGA no matter what. We need to all unite and fight the Kmedia. Why did they get to force him in front of the police station line up for something "shameful" yet they lie try to ruin a man's career his life they don't have tonstand up in the front and apologies for trying to ruin lives. There should be protests outside all over. We love Yoongi we love BTS AND we will support them forever. 💜
What bothers me, is HOW the media knew Suga would be at the police station, and WHEN he would be there. The ONLY people who would have known this are the police at that particular station, and for them to tell this information to the media is disgustingly abhorrent, if not outright illegal! One man has already been lost to the police notifying the media of date and time he would be arriving, and that's one life too many. Thanks to the 'leaks' from the police, the media hounded that poor man until he could find no other solution, and I find this totally unacceptable, both by the media AND the police. If the police are voluntarily responsible for releasing such information to the media, this needs to be dealt with in the highest courts of the law, and if there are 'leaks' within the police system itself, 'heads should roll', as is said when people are fired for illegally releasing information to the public.
The police told us that they would be calling him in this week and that he wasn't going to be called in at night or on the weekend. Up until Thursday, kmedia seems like they didn't know when exactly he'd be coming. They all showed up on Thursday and were pissed that he didn't come. They waited for about 7 hours before they were told he wouldn't be there so they didn't know the exact time either. So whatever tip they got was wrong and not from an official enough source who would have the info. So by process of elimination and deductive reasoning, there was no other time he'd be called in exect Friday so they knew he for sure had to be there at that time.
@@ZariDV By that reasoning, the police didn't really leave it to chance, did they? I mean, it would be easily deduced, from that statement, that since Yoongi WASN'T there on Thursday, he WOULD be there on Friday, so that statement did, in effect, tell the media EXACTLY when Yoongi would be there... except that all the videos were taken after dark, which is a time when the police stated that they would NOT be calling him in, so what were the reporters still doing waiting there? The police could just as easily have called Yoongi in on Monday or Tuesday, but the statement they made actually pinpointed the day and time he would be there, and since it WAS night, SOMEONE had to TELL them to stand by, as he was on his way. I see collusion here, even if others don't.
@@ZoAnne-lm3tb they were already camping there for a looong time. Days. Hours. And Suga spent 3hrs there so it would be dark when he came out. They were already camping there on Thurs by a false report, what are the chances he wouldn't come the next day? If he didn't, odds are reporters will still camp out there the next week until he shows up. Some reporters there have actually been loitering standby around the police station since 2 wks ago. But yes, I agree, since the whole fiasco began w/c started the misinfos, there had been a leak somewhere. Most probably from the police station itself. Wouldn't be surprised since for Lee Sun Kyun, it was found that a police officer involved in his case leaked infos. Before headlines were only an actor or an idol, but they directly named Suga immediately.
Thank You. 💜ARMY is not divided over this thats why Suga has charted world wide.Luckily Suga has never pretended to be perfect. His music is real vulnerable, raw. Unlike the normal korean idol whose image relies on perfection that can be ruined by revelation of humanity. We know Sugas faults. He told us. There is no ripping of the veil. The expected abandonment will not occur as we love him for who he is. Not perfect but perfectly wonderful. One of the most important things BTS has taught us over the years is we do not have to be perfect to be valuable, or loveble. Not paying attention to who BTS and their fandom is has led to a serious mistep by their rival companies and haters. They have fired all their big guns used up media contacts and totally missed their mark with the only people that matter ARMY ... Real ARMY not fake ARMY. Its ARMY and their sheer number are behind BTS success. Not the fickle S Korean consumers of gossip. We should protect artists from this kind of public flaggelation over very minor offenses and sometimes things that are not even against the law.
In Mexico police would have take a video of how SUGA fell off the scooter, laugh and post it on tik tok...no arrest, no scandal, it was just human mistake. He didn't damaged property or hurt anybody or kill anybody! All this scandal is ridiculous! Even for Australian standards!WTH!! He isn't a criminal FFS!!!
Suga apologized to us already. He never lied and has reflected on his mistake. That should be the end of it. Armies around the world are not disappointed or ashamed of Suga. We know humans make mistakes. As long as we learn and grow from the mistakes we make, we grow as people. I hope Armies can put up billboards around HYBE or where Suga is that says “ARMIES ARE NOT ASHAMED AND LOVE YOU SUGA….PROUDLY WAITING FOR YOU AND THE MEMBERS TOGETHER NEXT YEAR💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
I’m so sick to my stomach. My heart aches for all this nonsense he has to deal with. He didn’t need to apologize again. I’m really worried about his mental health at this point. 😔
K-army are actually making moves, showing their power by helping get those fake news and anti-videos taken down. This is the first time that a fandom has shown so much fight against the media in Korea. Love u all so much!!
Nah , they said not to stream his music , that’s the worse you can do to a musician , they only care about looks , superficial people, they are part of the problem suga felt this way, so f them. Then you will see the same cringy people complaining and demanding more stuff, when they don’t deserve even a quarter of the stuff they can get.
Korea doesn’t go too hard or goes very strict with laws. It goes strict and “lesson-worthy” when it comes to BTS. I mean come on who doesn’t want to become a hero? KMEDIA does just that thinking.. “oh bts did something, time for me to come over, bash the guys and tell the world that Bts Is bad”. Idk how many people would agree but the fact of point is. KMEDIA would attack a certain person/identity to extents that either they quit their career or life. KMEDIA is so dark, they cover up big scandals to bring hate towards their certain “eyes attracting” news. They are never regretful or sorry for anything. They run on chaos. And I’m so disappointed in how the country treats the only people who brought relevance to the nation. I mean thank god Son plays internationally for an international club and is out of the country. South Korea would’ve ruined him as a player too. Toxic and very scary the entire place. And I’m not speaking Ill about them with one experince. I am speaking what I can see. This is so sad for all the people who work hard, and then get brought down by own people for mere speculations. And to every single person hating and on the other side of the table, It’s my idol today, it would be yours tomorrow. And then we’ll see how beautiful it looks to get harassed for nothing! And made feel like a “murde*er”
Why does South Korea have such a horrible culture of humiliation? It's not enough to admit a wrong doing, pay fines, get a suspended license and apologize. I am hoping that Suga as a 31 year old man is strong - I think he is!
The media should find out about Min Hee Jin and what she is up to. He should be seeking true information about the official who reopened the Korean First Lady's corruption case and who was found dead. Suicide? Nobody believes that.
@@mobr51This is why Suga is in the spotlight. To take the focus off the first lady's corruption. If it wasn't Suga who made a mistake at this precise moment, it would have been another high profile entertainer.
I have gone from worry to sadness to anger. Yoongi takes way too much on himself. He has been made to do a photocall in front of the media, normally something reserved for abusers and serious criminals. NOT necessary for someone who fell off a scooter after drinks with dinner with no harm caused. To treat someone who has dedicated their career to bringing glory to their country, to be treated this way by those same people is disgusting. I stand with Yoongi and BTS forever but I will NEVER forgive or forget what these people have done to him. Shout out to Coldplay who sent him a PUBLIC message of support. Unlike many others.💜
No SUGA, we are NOT diaspointed one single bit. Please stop apologising. We know you are a decent human being who simply fell of the scooter when a little drunk. We know you will know better next time. Live and let live, we afrankly do not care. We do not judge you, we do not want you punished and dragged through this media madness. Please hold your head high and just watch out next time. too many are waiting for every wrong move you make.
After seeing the CCTV, what I can say BTS is really 🔥, they can burnt a whole korea just by falling down from scooter. 😅 The incident is really nothing! Suga was riding his scooter better than me in sober. Really the taller the trees the stronger the winds. Yoongi, fighting!!! 💪
I've been having a pretty rough day, but this comment made me feel a little better! You are right, BTS (with ARMY behind them) has so much influence that one tiny thing starts a riot. That means they can also affect great change where necessary. I hope Yoongi either has or will soon gain this perspective. Thank you, beautiful ARMY! 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
Everyone needs to understand that he has depression, he finally seemed some what healed in 2023, but now all this happened. It could be slowly creeping back up. I hope his family and friends reassure him that he can make mistakes and that he too can be human. As a fan i will will stand against a 1000 all alone. I will only trust him, cause he saved me through his music in 2014.
I think the problem is not only on the media. But it is also on the netizen. Media would not exist without customer who consume and buy the news. Let's stop believing everything media says. Be wise. Stop hating and pointing fingers so easily. Stop fandom war. Be kind.
this makes me SICK he literally rode a safe scooter so he'd avoid drunk driving and potentially harming people/property etc. to begin with!!!!! and took a sharp turn and fell in FRONT OF HIS HOUSE and the police circled him like prey i guess it is illegal in korea but it was just as fast as a bike???? a lot of people do that here in the US so they don't drive home and cause damage he did with the intent not to HARM and he didn't!!!! now he has to apologize like some criminal doing hard time???? while actual criminals get a slap on the wrist!!!!! this is SO harmful for his mental helf k-media gaslighting him into thinking he did some major crime GROSS
63 years army here and i don't feel granny at all. What is happening here is a parody. Think about....jim Morrison or mick jagger apologizing for their way of living (for as long as they don't hurt anyone) What an era!!!! All i wish for my beloved youngi is to gain courage and write again a wonderful song. It seems polar night was prophetic. And yes im angry ,im furious that he put his self in that place..we're here for him nothing is gonna change and of course no one can replace BTS, for ever and ever. You always make my day Jino and i thank you for that,and sorry for my English cause I'm greek
The media should find out about Min Hee Jin and what she is up to. He should be seeking true information about the official who reopened the Korean First Lady's corruption case and who was found dead. Suicide? Nobody believes that.
Yoongi is such a beautiful soul. What they're putting him through for a relatively minor incident (which he's ALREADY taken responsibility for), is shameful. THEY should be the ones hanging their heads in shame, not him. All good things sent his way 💜 Fighting!
I wish he could know that we don’t expect perfection of him, he is only human like the rest of us I wish he didn’t feel burdened by their success in that way…I can only hope in time this painful experience will be behind him and he won’t feel a heavy heart I hope when he can feel army’s love again, it is healing and he knows we accept and support him as he is Fuck the media.
@@lotusfloat2020 Yay, we still got it going on! My daughter, granddaughter & I just went to see The Boyz in concert. We had a blast. However, I’m a big BTS fan & hope to see them in concert one day. They keep me laughing, dancing around and singing in the car. lol. 💜🇺🇸
@@entropyawylli24 Hi there… Don’t these guys give us energy. They make me laugh, dance around & sing in the car…lol. My daughter (54) and granddaughter (21) are ARMY too. We more mature fans are still going aren’t we💜🇺🇸😁
Omg,Omg Suga no need to apologize again, you did not commit a crime. Stop beating up on yourself, we love you, more of us than those haters. Don't lose your smile over this we got your back. We'll never let go go go, ok, be strong, this too shall pass
It's sad that he is apologising again and again for nothing. Those scammers hurt him intentionally and he is blaming himself for disappointing us. no, he didn't. He can never disappoint us. We see what happen, we see how thay create this fuss. 😞
I love Yoongi and it’s ridiculous the absolute witch-hunt he has endured. I agree he shouldn’t have to over apologize. He made a mistake (who hasn’t) because wow he’s a human being. Who would have thought 😳 He apologized and that’s enough. At least it should be but of course it isn’t ugh
Thanks Jino. Because of time difference I don't get to see you live often. But I mostly follow your uploads later. With your knowledge of SK you give an honest opinion, and that puts things a little in perspective. I am actually kinda worried about Suga, and hope he will be able to move on by now, knowing he has Army right behind him. This whole thing has been ridiculously blown out of proportion. Greetings from another 50+ 😉
Suga apology is for us all the Fandom and others who cares .....that is why he posted in Weverse. I understand ....all the 7 Bangtan and family are Korean...good that he respects the norm and culture of his root. Hope Suga can ease off by pouring his heart out 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
Do we think hybe or bighit will file any lawsuits regarding kmedia’s reckless lying? There HAS to accountability here like I’m just baffled nothing seems to be happening on that front.
Suga you have not disappointed us. You are human and made a mistake. That in no way diminishes the person you are! Please do not beat yourself up over this. We love and support you no matter what. Please remember what you have taught us and that is that things will happen but we have to stay strong. The members love and support you and have your back. I will always support you and the members no matter what. 72
My heart is shattered he doesn't need to apologize 😭 he is our PRIDE and happiness.. kmedia behavior was disgusting this is how you treat your national treasure shame on Kmedia..I am worried about his health
I wonder who asked him to write this, he didn't need to do that again. We are not dissapointed about him, someone is making him beleive otherwise that is dangerous for his mental health and it worries me. His old French Army friend ❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉
I feel so for Suga-it is just ridiculous that this has been blown into such a huge "scandal" when it so is not!!! Suga made a mistake, and has acknowledged it, apologized and that should be the end of it!!! How or why the media has taken it so far is mind blowing and they are the ones who should be apologizing for making a "mountain out of a mole hill." Just because he is a celebrity/BTS they are raking him over the coals and for what?!??! They need to let it go and stop all of this bullsh*t and allow Suga to get on with his life without making him feel he owes anyone for anything, or guilty for something when it was a simple thing, no one was harmed and he had his license revoked-that is more than enough. It is all just absurd!!! Get over it....sigh!
This is a scandal that the government hide. The media should find out about Min Hee Jin and what she is up to. He should be seeking true information about the official who reopened the Korean First Lady's corruption case and who was found dead. Suicide? Nobody believes that.
45:00 we are used to haters, but this time we hurt because Yoongi is deeply hurt. He's family to us. And the feeling of hopelessness because we're so far away... Also the police investigation is still open. I don't think we can have a piece of mind until the thing with the police is done
His letter was so sad. I skimmed it so fast just to make sure he didn’t say anything about leaving the group and had a little sigh of relief when I didn’t see it. I hope he knows he’s saved lives with his music and I wish we can do the same for him. 😢
Suga is alone! Yes he has family but becus they are family they wud feel the same emotional turmoil. I believe if his 6 mates were able to be here for him, just their love & comforting physical presence alone wud make a vast well of difference to his emotional well-being. & trouble-shooting as they always used to do as a team wud hv greatly helped. For sure they wud admonish him for even thinking he had let them down over such an incredibly stooopid incident.
Army... no, pls be realistic. He says in his own letter he deserves what's happening to him and he caused it. What defamation? pls stop dreaming I beg you. The higher our expectations the worse it's gonna feel when nothing good comes out of this. My only fear is a trial cause the media won't leave him alone for months or maybe will drage it til after he discharges. I' m so furious I could burst
really? he deserved what's happening to him? & 2 ppl like THIS? wow, u guys r from korea, right? clearly, it's a society problem, it's not just media, u all r sick.
All this situation is so disgusting! It should be just a funny story to tell to his grandchildren, but antis and haters created stressful moments just to attack BTS. I'm 67yo, and I did something way more irresponsible when I was young and nobody criticized me, not even my elder brother, the owner of the motorcycle I took, without permission, and fell with. I could understand that mess if he were driving a car while drunk... but it was a scooter!! the only one who could be hurt was himself. It seems that those officers who began all of that mess were there just waiting for it.
the ridiculousness of this incident blown up by korean media is a wake-up call that BTS doesn't need korea anymore. as true global artists, the bulk of BTS's fandom is abroad. BTS should just leave korea's unhealthy atmosphere. they don't need haters, vested interests, or sanctimonious hypocrites to make their music. they don't need malicious media or corrupted police to make their lives miserable. they should free themselves as artists and not be limited by the jealousy and crab mindset of koreans. it's become clear that BTS belongs to the world.
at 48:10 there's no sitting on Bangtan's chair as a group. You find Jiminie though but he's solo.. and a Bangtan member so he is Bangtan no matter what solos think. When his streams drop they blame us, when they're on top it's 'their' work pls lmao No one is even near Bangtan and those who claim otherwise haven't been by Bangtan side for ages, they didnt see them grow slowly and organically. They had 0 mediaplay, can't say the same abt anyone else
at 21:47 me like... I'm seriously worried the members think those antis are us.. Why would he say that? is he not watchng anything and someone else is 'updating' him? if that's the case who is it and how can I klll em? is he only reading K media? is he actually aware of what we're doing and it's sending him the wrong message? I'm so confused and worried
Yoongi needs a little space to process his own feelings and emotions. I know that he sees the support of Army but at the same time he can't help but feel a bit guilty and that's not something we as fans can fix. It will take time but I know he'll get through it. We don't know what he hears when he goes to his office job everyday so he knows why he released another apology. Let's trust him and give him time, he's trying to smooth things over so it's counter productive for us to stir the pot. Let's continue to stream his music and send words of support on weverse.
at 53:40 controversial but even if Bangtan was to debut today, with their same ages they were when they devited, the same thing and success that happened ever since may NOT repeat for a very simple factor: social media 2013 =/= 2024. Not just that, copyright strikes were absolutely different. We could promote Bangtan painlessly, not worried abt anything. Tons of contents available on yt. There are many websites no longer existing and some didn't exist at all, like tiktok. Sorry but no other artist will replicate what happened to Bangtan
Nothing will change. Except me: no more K-dramas or films on legal sources anymore. No more imported K-snacks or food. And my dream final trip (my health is deteriorating more quickly than I thought) has changed back to Scotland. Not one moment of attention or $ ever goes to ANYTHING Korean not directly related to BTS ever again.
I JUST WANT TO HUG YOU SUGA, EVERY THING WILL BE ALRIGHT. IT TOO SHALL PASS. YOU DID NOT DISAPPOINT US. STOP, STOP HURTING YOURSELF, NO NEED TO APOLOGIZE
at 24:28 anyone who's not a Korean would also think not only that he's sorry but that he must have k¡lled someone or something as severe................ It's ridiculous and I'm fuming
There's something deeply pathetic and slimy about this whole thing. This should have been wrapped up and closed long ago. Anyone who looked at this and didn't see how malicious it was is being intellectually dishonest. When they media writes fake "nice" articles, farms our engagements and then change the headline and story to be negative. At that point we cannot pretend that it's just reporters being shitty at their jobs. The police needs to do better. The journalists need to do better. The public needs to also do better. Everyone pretends to care when people kill themselves and then they move on until it's a few months later and the same thing happens and it's silence again. If having the media write 50 articles a day led a man to commit suicide, watching the same media write 200 articles a day in the same aggressive way should alarm the public. There's no reason why foreign voices should be showing more concern.
Army.. did any of you watch the police line up? cause I refused to do it so I hvae no idea what he said, nor facial expressions and voice but I'm really tempted now to see it cause this letter? I'm worried sick I don't wanna even write the thoughts crossing my mind that are so awful I fear manifesting it. What did he say? I know he apologized and bowed but that's all I know. I'm too angry and don't wanna give Koreans the satisfaction of playing their sick games BUT I'M WORRIED. Dunno what to do
You would think that it would make sense for the President of South Korea to get on the back lines and communicate this to people...But he's not going to do that, when his own wife has been accused of stock manipulation and taking luxury goods as payments for services or information...And that's what journalists are trying to keep out of the headlines. But there was one story out there highlighting it last week in the midst of this Suga situation, which is not a situation. But it seems that South Korea biggest issue is protecting those in the caste system that have a higher echelon of wealth and privilege and powerful positions. Suga would be at the bottom of the totem pole, and he's sacrificeable for this small incident that should not be attracting this level of attention. So people with any common sense, and it doesn't seem to be very many that are looking at this objectively and are not asking this question: by keeping this in the headlines at this magnitude, what is it that the country is hiding from its citizens? What is it that law enforcement and media in South Korea already know, about someone much wealthier than Suga ir more connected than Suga that they are trying to keep out of the headlines and using this situation as a coverup. And I'm not saying this to be paranoid or insight paranoia... but it's a foregone conclusion that this is a nothing incident, that Army and every RU-vid content creator or influencer should have moved on from already. Even you Jino, but I get it, that this is stuff that feeds you subscriber base and you. The more people watch the videos, the more shares of it, the more money to the content creators...so are you any better than the SK media you try to vilify?!?!? What I'm upset about is Army's are out here fighting like muthafxxkas to get Suga over this hurdle and then he comes out with another apology.... stop apologizing. I need whomever is advisjng him to be fired. He needs to sit still and let Army work for him. And for all thise claiming to be Army that are supposedly upset...leave the flocking fandom...please! That's all I wanted to say.
at 27:05 no, we didn't teach them anything. Yoongi's letter proves it. It won't change Kmedia it will only get worse. If Bangtan fight em no one can. Certainly not us and Hybe has way too much to lose to go against em... Bangtan? No, they wouldn't lose a thing but Hybe would, so nothing is gonna happen. I regret having wasted so much precious time reporting the Kmedia abuse and names of the reporters to BH. Nothing will happen, they won
at 50:32 not only bt21 paved the way but they are the members children!! tiny tan uses their likeness in an infantilized way, yikes no thx. I support the members creation aka their children aka bt21
OT7 Forever. Korean media can be destructive, I do not consider driving a scooter the same as driving a car. I’m not excuse him he could have hit a person but I’m prone to think the ocasión with the problems with New Jeans ,HYBE and Korean Media. Yes ARMY have giving them Hell
My take on this: is this whole thing of shaming famous people when they do mistakes, and pushing them to apologize over and over again because the first one was not sincere enough, would they expect a sincere apology by forcing someone to apologize once again ?! I suspect the result to be the total opposite. So what's the point ?! And I sincerely hope that in his heart he does not give a shit (sort of, I sure hope that he acknowledges his mistake and he learns from it, but that he realized the "size" of the mistake which is not that big. I'm not minimizing but judging the incident objectively it is serious but not a national scandal). I don't know if I'm clear. Anyway, I don't wanna see this matter again. I moved on a while back 😁 I'm concentrating my efforts on Muse ❤
Always Army Love,Support and Trust BTS Yoongi, APOBANGPO! 🙋🏽♀️🤗😍👏🏽🕺🏽🎶🎤👑🥇💜✌🏽🙏🏽🇺🇸 Shame on KMedia for their "Fake Love" for BTS and Yoongi, KMedia Blackout in force Army! 🤦🏽♀️💔📸🤐🙅🏽♀️ #WeLoveYouYoongi #WeLoveYouBTS7 #BTSPurpleRibbonProject #KMediaFakeLove
Thank you for the space to talk about this Jino, especially for those of us without social media 💜 Future’s gonna be okay ARMY “BTS is on top” thanks for your nice words too
K-media is trash. Antis are trash. Just leave him alone already. They've pushed celebrities to suicide. I really hope Yoongi is getting great support from his close circle of people. Our guys deserve so much better than this after all they have done for their country. 😔
The media should find out about Min Hee Jin and what she is up to. He should be seeking true information about the official who reopened the Korean First Lady's corruption case and who was found dead. Suicide? Nobody believes that.
That's why Suga's story is blowing up in Kmedia, to take the spotlight off something else that is happening. That official that was found dead is the story du jour they' re trying to cover up. The media is corrupt as well as the government and police. The person who is NOT corrupt is Suga himself.
Suga estamos contigo nada cambiará todos tus logros y lo que has aportado a tu país todas tu música y todo tu trabajo es maravilloso te amamos y te apoyamos siempre no te dejes vencer tú has pasado por cosas peores y te has levantado tú puedes todo va estar bien estamos contigo bts y army te aman por siempre juntos 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜