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Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League - Do Not Use HDR - HDR Is Broken - Black Level Floor Is Bad 

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@GamingTech-YouTube
@GamingTech-YouTube 9 месяцев назад
No point to make any HDR recommendation at this stage. If the HDR Black Level Floor gets fixed I will review the game again. Video is recorded in HDR but RU-vid can take up to 48hours to finalize the HDR processing.
@Fusionade
@Fusionade 9 месяцев назад
How is this black floor issue any different than Cyberpunk 2077? For that one, I just used Lilium HDR black floor level fix.
@seanguinn
@seanguinn 9 месяцев назад
Any possible way when you have a chance can you do a Tekken 8 HDR video? Keep up the good work
@dk06ctr
@dk06ctr 9 месяцев назад
Can we not use FTDA to fix the black levels raise on lg oled? So there is no settings to get a decent picture in HDR as would rather do that than SDR
@GamingTech-YouTube
@GamingTech-YouTube 9 месяцев назад
@@seanguinn coming soon!
@csmkorn1
@csmkorn1 9 месяцев назад
@@dk06ctrI set my FTDA to around -15 to -25, set my TV to HGiG, and left all the in-game sliders at default. Looks pretty decent now IMO.
@gagagoogoo6085
@gagagoogoo6085 9 месяцев назад
There was a fanboy in your community comments claiming the HDR in this game is “beautiful.” He’s coping. This game has broken HDR and looks awful.
@M_CFV
@M_CFV 9 месяцев назад
Yup. I like the game and even I noticed the awful green blacks immediately. Thankfully I had the foresight to get it on PC and used reshade immediately. But GamingTech is right, we shouldn't have to fix the problem for the devs
@Jamic9
@Jamic9 8 месяцев назад
@@M_CFV Unfortunately the game runs terribly on PC, even on a top tier machine with a RTX 4090, according to Digital Foundry. John Linnrrman said it's a total stutter fest even on their super powerful machine due to awful uneven frame pacing and bad camera movement. He added that the game runs significantly better on the two main consoles. I think HDR is the least of your worries in this game.
@Fusionade
@Fusionade 8 месяцев назад
Okay after switching to SDR and playing that way for a few hours (after initial hours in HDR), I realize that even though the HDR implementation isn’t the best…HDR is still the way to go. I just can’t recommend SDR, I have several hours with each on an LG C2 and despite HDR being “bad”, it’s still much better than SDR. Settings: Brightness - 50 UI - 10 White Point - 60 The early game makes the black level issue look worse than expected (specifically the scene after breaking out of the train), but set pieces like Flash boss fight show why HDR is by far still the best choice here!
@Fusionade
@Fusionade 8 месяцев назад
@@user-nj5xn9ur8j Yeah I don’t know why he seemed so frustrated here and unwilling to put effort in, probably because he thinks this game is just unpopular overall and it’s not worth doing. He wasn’t like this with other games that have black level raise, like Cyberpunk. He gave that game like 4 videos! I love that game, but it has gray black too. I wish he would have given good settings for some ReShade fixes even, if not just internal settings. But he claimed he didn’t want to bother with it because “we shouldn’t have to.” Then what’s the point in making the video…
@jonathanmaillard7484
@jonathanmaillard7484 8 месяцев назад
I think it would be a great addition to your videos if you could show the SDR pictures/measurements so we can appreciate how much the black floor is impacted by switching HDR ON. Keep up the good work ! :D
@spartanikus1367
@spartanikus1367 9 месяцев назад
This seems to be only a problem on console. The HDR on PC is perfect.
@Fusionade
@Fusionade 9 месяцев назад
No, I'm experiencing the same issue he shows here. I got the HDR Analysis tool with Reshade and it shows very raised balck levels (as well as it being obvious in gameplay, greenish-grayish blacks). Game is really awesome, but the HDR is super bad and calling it "perfect" makes me think you haven't seen HDR before. Not trying to be mean, I'm just frustrated with this HDR implementation.
@teddyholiday8038
@teddyholiday8038 9 месяцев назад
HDR on PC is terrible
@hyperspeed_心猿
@hyperspeed_心猿 8 месяцев назад
I'm scratching my head at why I don't have a problem on my lgtv with my PS5 version. It is true, the sliders seem broken from what they should do, but weirdly enough, I slid all three to 100 (max) and it looks great. Defies logic in what you would expect, so obviously something is wrong in the settings. But yeah, everything slid to 100, I swear I have great looking hdr. 🤷‍♂️ Guess I have a magic tv. Lucky me!
@Jamic9
@Jamic9 8 месяцев назад
Shame the rest of the game doesn't hold up, particularly on PC. Digital Foundry called it a stutter fest on the machine, due to awful frame pacing and bad camera movement. They recommended the PS5/XBSX versions over the PC version. HDR is the least of your worries in this game.
@Fusionade
@Fusionade 8 месяцев назад
@@Jamic9 After playing for a while, the shader compilation stutter stops and it plays very well capped at 60 with V-Sync at 4K Max settings!
@quaticus
@quaticus 8 месяцев назад
trying to put lipstick on a pig, but realize it will still be a pig
@GamingTech-YouTube
@GamingTech-YouTube 8 месяцев назад
Peppa Pig , that's all from my end!
@quaticus
@quaticus 8 месяцев назад
@@GamingTech-RU-vid peppa pig is the goat
@ChicagoMade
@ChicagoMade 9 месяцев назад
Rocksteady & WB really let us down
@undercovertommy
@undercovertommy 9 месяцев назад
i was so tempted to buy this game for 100 pound looks like ive dodged a bullett
@teddyholiday8038
@teddyholiday8038 9 месяцев назад
Yeah the HDR is terrible, it’s like Diablo 4 Looks better with SDR, much better A shame
@marcbridgewater1562
@marcbridgewater1562 8 месяцев назад
It's not that much of a shame, considering the game is just another crap live service bore fest, aimed at 12 year olds. Besides, Digital Foundry reckons the hdr is good to go.
@teddyholiday8038
@teddyholiday8038 8 месяцев назад
@@marcbridgewater1562 nobody asked you bud
@marcbridgewater1562
@marcbridgewater1562 8 месяцев назад
@@teddyholiday8038 Ahh OK. Thought YT was an open public forum. I didn't realise it was invitation only.
@plasmatvforgaming9648
@plasmatvforgaming9648 9 месяцев назад
Rocksteady was one of my favorites, this game looks like they're going out of business
@ployth9000
@ployth9000 9 месяцев назад
well 2 of the co devs of rocksteady left to make there own studio one hundred stars or something like that
@plasmatvforgaming9648
@plasmatvforgaming9648 9 месяцев назад
​@@ployth9000It seems like they lost the good ones
@crestofhonor2349
@crestofhonor2349 9 месяцев назад
That black level floor is so bad it’s noticeable easily on a single zone LCD with “HDR”
@bluevoltz1
@bluevoltz1 9 месяцев назад
what causes this black level raise across so many games? is it difficult to implement HDR properly? in 2024 i'm not buying a game without proper HDR support, its the biggest visual upgrade when done properly imo
@Fusionade
@Fusionade 8 месяцев назад
Sometimes it is artistic choice/direction, like with Cyberpunk 2077 and this game. Think about real life and being in a dark area of a city: is it ever true black anywhere in your vision? No, it’s always slightly lit. If you stand in a dark room, you can make things out. You aren’t in a dark void. So despite having an OLED and wanting deep blacks, they only make sense in art-driven games (Hades, Ratchet & Clank, etc.) and not realistically rendered games. I’m torn on it, but I am finally starting to understand why very few games ever have 0 nit black level. It usually doesn’t make sense.
@Fusionade
@Fusionade 8 месяцев назад
@@user-nj5xn9ur8j True, but only a few pixels would ever be 0 nits, no?
@LonkiGames
@LonkiGames 8 месяцев назад
@@Fusionadeyeah exactly, that why there is still a lot do detail in the darks while not raising the black levels. It achieves the full dynamic range in dark areas ranging all the way to 0.0 nits in the very darkest. With suicide squad and a lot of other games it seems like it’s impossible to actually reach 0.0
@Fusionade
@Fusionade 8 месяцев назад
@@LonkiGames Makes sense, thanks!
@Jamic9
@Jamic9 8 месяцев назад
Even though I’ve made a few comments here, relating to a tech review from Digital Foundry, where John Linnerman stated that HDR looked good to him when discussing the console versions of the game, I have to say that I have no interest whatsoever in these kind of live service games. The looting and repetitive grinding just leaves me cold. Judging by the views of the wider gaming press, this games looks like another big miss and I won’t be surprised if it fails like so many live service games before it.
@mip8931
@mip8931 9 месяцев назад
Do you have the Same Problem with the annoying bright ghosting when you move the Cam slowly I Play on ps5 my TV 165hz 1440p HDR 10 freesync and this smart respons Maybee you have an answer
@Jamic9
@Jamic9 8 месяцев назад
Hmm...interesting. Digital Foundry's John Linneman said that the HDR implementation was good in his tech review of this game.
@GamingTech-YouTube
@GamingTech-YouTube 8 месяцев назад
When exactly did he say that in his video?
@Jamic9
@Jamic9 8 месяцев назад
@@GamingTech-RU-vid Basically, Just that it looked good. He didn’t go into any real detail. Nothing as thorough as your analysis, I guess.
@teddyholiday8038
@teddyholiday8038 8 месяцев назад
@@Jamic9he said it looked good on his steam Deck OLED which has specific tone mapping
@Jamic9
@Jamic9 8 месяцев назад
@@teddyholiday8038 No, way before that when John was discussing the console versions at around 9:30, he said that ‘the game also supports HDR and it looks pretty good to my eyes’. Try watching the whole video.
@teddyholiday8038
@teddyholiday8038 8 месяцев назад
@@Jamic9 no you’re wrong and you’re delusional
@brenttitus2134
@brenttitus2134 9 месяцев назад
No need to call out again and again. Devs simply do no care and release knowing it’s broke. It’s just how the industry is and not going to change since many still buy it.
@SilverBld
@SilverBld 9 месяцев назад
Then it fits the game perfectly lol
@csmkorn1
@csmkorn1 9 месяцев назад
Says yet another bandwagon jumper who hasn’t even played it 🙄
@TheIconizer
@TheIconizer 9 месяцев назад
What brightness would you recommend on SDR for 1000 nit TV?
@GamingTech-YouTube
@GamingTech-YouTube 9 месяцев назад
50 is the standard and it does look ok
@TheIconizer
@TheIconizer 9 месяцев назад
@@GamingTech-RU-vidThanks.
@kevgul
@kevgul 8 месяцев назад
10 Games with perfect HDR? 😑I’m turn it off and go back to SDR….sadly
@duncanself5111
@duncanself5111 9 месяцев назад
I think I'll give it a miss 😅 It's probably best games like this fail so badly though it does suck for the studios that are put in this position by their publishers greed (imo)
@sebsa100
@sebsa100 9 месяцев назад
Thank you for this great video
@jonesygrets6029
@jonesygrets6029 9 месяцев назад
Hi,long time fan. I was wondering if you could revisit ff16 with hdr recommendations and performance settings Please.😊
@manyakgaming1346
@manyakgaming1346 8 месяцев назад
For some reason it doesn’t look that bad to me, I’ve seen games with way worse
@Vitali87
@Vitali87 9 месяцев назад
Thanks great video, i just want to why this is constantly happening? This is like an issue with every second game
@JamieSaunders-g8w
@JamieSaunders-g8w 8 месяцев назад
I knew u was going to say horizon the hdr and visual are stunning on horizon forbidden west compared to this
@neocodexx
@neocodexx 9 месяцев назад
Keep up the fight. This needs more awareness.
@JonPais
@JonPais 9 месяцев назад
Which HDR analyzer do you use? Is it possible to use it for Netflix shows on a Mac? Thanks for your reviews.
@gilromero7797
@gilromero7797 8 месяцев назад
Please make video about fc 24 HDR 🙏🙏
@zabtcent
@zabtcent 9 месяцев назад
Game does not look anything like this on Xbox. Everything is spot on in HDR. Compared to this video, everything here looks bad. Colour saturation, black lvl raise, washed out, etc. Looks like intentional, not saying it is but is sooo different from what I see on my screen when playing on series X.
@ANTANTANT360
@ANTANTANT360 9 месяцев назад
Same here! On pc, HDR looks great!
@teddyholiday8038
@teddyholiday8038 9 месяцев назад
@@ANTANTANT360 nope; you both are just used to bad image
@joaquinarchivaldoguzmanloe1073
@joaquinarchivaldoguzmanloe1073 9 месяцев назад
Anyone know why my hdr on my ps5 always looks so dark? Just bought the new Alienware oled monitor and hdr just seems to dark😭
@teddyholiday8038
@teddyholiday8038 9 месяцев назад
Probably a setting you need to change in monitor or PS5 settings
@joaquinarchivaldoguzmanloe1073
@joaquinarchivaldoguzmanloe1073 9 месяцев назад
Maybe
@ToxMod
@ToxMod 9 месяцев назад
This whole game is a disappointment
@FcryCola
@FcryCola 9 месяцев назад
Thats why it gots denuvo 😂
@kaikiske7436
@kaikiske7436 9 месяцев назад
Damn Markos this looks really bad.
@MarkusFFFF
@MarkusFFFF 8 месяцев назад
Like A Dragon: Infinite Wealth also has a really weird HDR implementation. I don't know if this is just imagination, but for me the image quality looks much better and with less aliasing with HDR off in this game. By the way, Infinite Wealth is again absolutely amazing. I love how japanese developers don't care about being "politically correct", they just do whatever they want and it's so much fun.
@Silverthorn-jn3jg
@Silverthorn-jn3jg 9 месяцев назад
HDR is the smallest problem by this garbage of game.😂
@igordelija9185
@igordelija9185 9 месяцев назад
I have it at 81 brightness and 65 white point 50 UI brightness. It doesn’t look bad.
@teddyholiday8038
@teddyholiday8038 9 месяцев назад
Looks terrible. The hdr is broken. SDR looks way better
@BA3YDADDY
@BA3YDADDY 9 месяцев назад
Just don’t buy it, problem solved, the game is pure trash 🚮
@riddickfurya3577
@riddickfurya3577 9 месяцев назад
I'm sorry you lost money. You paid for it, right? I mean, you saying it's trash, so I'm assuming you paid for it 😂
@BA3YDADDY
@BA3YDADDY 9 месяцев назад
@@riddickfurya3577 the game sold under 250k copies and highest peaked on steam is 12k that 19k less the Marvels Avengers 🤣 I don’t need to play a game to know it’s trash, like i don’t need to drive a Toyota Yaris to know my BMW is better. The game is pure woke trash 🚮 and the Rocksteady who created it is not the Rocksteady that created the Arkham series, that Rocksteady left 4 years ago with the co-founders and is now Hundred Star Games, so what you got left is woke devs who got no respect for the DC source material. I guess you love Gotham Knights to 🤣 Think about it, under 250k copies sold, pure trash 🚮 Even ign gave it a 5/10, IGN, think hard about that 🤣 Now watch how Rocksteady is going to get hit by huge amount of layoffs and what’s this game get shot down in 1 year tops, it’s going to be beautiful to watch 🥳
@riddickfurya3577
@riddickfurya3577 9 месяцев назад
@BA3YDADDY you rode that hate machine too seriously. Another cookie cutter. 🍪 😂 I swear this generation gets too offensive & woke nowadays. Crybabies 🤤👶
@riddickfurya3577
@riddickfurya3577 9 месяцев назад
@BA3YDADDY quick note, cyberpunk was a mess at launch, now fixed. No man's sky was a mess at launch, now fixed. Even fallout 76 was a disaster & gotten better. If you're a gamer, you would be patient with development & support the cause. But instead, you would rather ride that hate train 😂 stay salty 🧂 😜
@BA3YDADDY
@BA3YDADDY 9 месяцев назад
@@riddickfurya3577 You are comparing CP77 to SS, what’s wrong with you dude? it’s two totally different situations 🤦🏻‍♂️ CP77 had performance and bug problems, like the worst kind but the game was still the same as it is now, now it just runs like it should have from the get go. SS doesn’t have performance issues, it’s the core game that’s trash not the performance and the game was 9 years in development 🤦🏻‍♂️ best part is give this game 9 more years and you still have a piece of woke garbage like now, with no respect for the DC source material. I’m 45 dude, this generation 🤦🏻‍♂️ what I’m saying is facts, the game is woke garbage and you apparently can’t handle that. Keep coping dude 🤣
@TempleofShaolin
@TempleofShaolin 9 месяцев назад
Digital foundry just said it’s pretty good in there video
@teddyholiday8038
@teddyholiday8038 8 месяцев назад
He said it looks good on his Steam Deck OLED and he doesn’t analyse HDR. He’s just eyeballing it
@ANTANTANT360
@ANTANTANT360 9 месяцев назад
I’m playing on my lg c3 and HDR looks great. I’m playing on PC.
@teddyholiday8038
@teddyholiday8038 9 месяцев назад
Nope. It’s same on PC, broken HDR You’re just used to a washed out image I guess
@ANTANTANT360
@ANTANTANT360 9 месяцев назад
@@teddyholiday8038 hahaha good one but no, this is definitely HDR.
@teddyholiday8038
@teddyholiday8038 9 месяцев назад
@@ANTANTANT360 so GamingTech is wrong?
@Jamic9
@Jamic9 8 месяцев назад
Well John Linnerman from Digital Foundry said the HDR implementation was pretty good in the game
@teddyholiday8038
@teddyholiday8038 8 месяцев назад
@@Jamic9 that’s not what he said hr said it looks fine on his steam deck OLED which has special tone mapping
@Beeks68
@Beeks68 9 месяцев назад
Do not use HDR? How about don't even buy the piece of crap
@Fusionade
@Fusionade 8 месяцев назад
It’s fun
@beyondearth6418
@beyondearth6418 9 месяцев назад
The game is broken don't buy.
@LS2GTO60
@LS2GTO60 9 месяцев назад
I thought it looked great on the ps5
@GamingTech-YouTube
@GamingTech-YouTube 9 месяцев назад
Graphic is not too bad but HDR is
@teddyholiday8038
@teddyholiday8038 9 месяцев назад
HDR is terrible in this game In SDR it looks good
@LS2GTO60
@LS2GTO60 9 месяцев назад
@@teddyholiday8038 maybe I'm not looking hard enough or my TV settings but I didn't see anything bad on my LG cx. I've only played 2 times because of work, but my initial impressions were the game looked really good. I'll play tomorrow again and pay more attention.
@quaticus
@quaticus 9 месяцев назад
best way to play this game is with the screen turned off
@7361365
@7361365 9 месяцев назад
Your TV is trash. Get you an oled and turn black limited mode on and go from there.
@Brytech1216
@Brytech1216 8 месяцев назад
He has an oled lol
@TheMETALICA40
@TheMETALICA40 9 месяцев назад
Everything in the game is broken😂
@rogalsonus9129
@rogalsonus9129 9 месяцев назад
This game is total crap.
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