No point to make any HDR recommendation at this stage. If the HDR Black Level Floor gets fixed I will review the game again. Video is recorded in HDR but RU-vid can take up to 48hours to finalize the HDR processing.
Yup. I like the game and even I noticed the awful green blacks immediately. Thankfully I had the foresight to get it on PC and used reshade immediately. But GamingTech is right, we shouldn't have to fix the problem for the devs
@@M_CFV Unfortunately the game runs terribly on PC, even on a top tier machine with a RTX 4090, according to Digital Foundry. John Linnrrman said it's a total stutter fest even on their super powerful machine due to awful uneven frame pacing and bad camera movement. He added that the game runs significantly better on the two main consoles. I think HDR is the least of your worries in this game.
Okay after switching to SDR and playing that way for a few hours (after initial hours in HDR), I realize that even though the HDR implementation isn’t the best…HDR is still the way to go. I just can’t recommend SDR, I have several hours with each on an LG C2 and despite HDR being “bad”, it’s still much better than SDR. Settings: Brightness - 50 UI - 10 White Point - 60 The early game makes the black level issue look worse than expected (specifically the scene after breaking out of the train), but set pieces like Flash boss fight show why HDR is by far still the best choice here!
@@user-nj5xn9ur8j Yeah I don’t know why he seemed so frustrated here and unwilling to put effort in, probably because he thinks this game is just unpopular overall and it’s not worth doing. He wasn’t like this with other games that have black level raise, like Cyberpunk. He gave that game like 4 videos! I love that game, but it has gray black too. I wish he would have given good settings for some ReShade fixes even, if not just internal settings. But he claimed he didn’t want to bother with it because “we shouldn’t have to.” Then what’s the point in making the video…
I think it would be a great addition to your videos if you could show the SDR pictures/measurements so we can appreciate how much the black floor is impacted by switching HDR ON. Keep up the good work ! :D
No, I'm experiencing the same issue he shows here. I got the HDR Analysis tool with Reshade and it shows very raised balck levels (as well as it being obvious in gameplay, greenish-grayish blacks). Game is really awesome, but the HDR is super bad and calling it "perfect" makes me think you haven't seen HDR before. Not trying to be mean, I'm just frustrated with this HDR implementation.
I'm scratching my head at why I don't have a problem on my lgtv with my PS5 version. It is true, the sliders seem broken from what they should do, but weirdly enough, I slid all three to 100 (max) and it looks great. Defies logic in what you would expect, so obviously something is wrong in the settings. But yeah, everything slid to 100, I swear I have great looking hdr. 🤷♂️ Guess I have a magic tv. Lucky me!
Shame the rest of the game doesn't hold up, particularly on PC. Digital Foundry called it a stutter fest on the machine, due to awful frame pacing and bad camera movement. They recommended the PS5/XBSX versions over the PC version. HDR is the least of your worries in this game.
It's not that much of a shame, considering the game is just another crap live service bore fest, aimed at 12 year olds. Besides, Digital Foundry reckons the hdr is good to go.
what causes this black level raise across so many games? is it difficult to implement HDR properly? in 2024 i'm not buying a game without proper HDR support, its the biggest visual upgrade when done properly imo
Sometimes it is artistic choice/direction, like with Cyberpunk 2077 and this game. Think about real life and being in a dark area of a city: is it ever true black anywhere in your vision? No, it’s always slightly lit. If you stand in a dark room, you can make things out. You aren’t in a dark void. So despite having an OLED and wanting deep blacks, they only make sense in art-driven games (Hades, Ratchet & Clank, etc.) and not realistically rendered games. I’m torn on it, but I am finally starting to understand why very few games ever have 0 nit black level. It usually doesn’t make sense.
@@Fusionadeyeah exactly, that why there is still a lot do detail in the darks while not raising the black levels. It achieves the full dynamic range in dark areas ranging all the way to 0.0 nits in the very darkest. With suicide squad and a lot of other games it seems like it’s impossible to actually reach 0.0
Even though I’ve made a few comments here, relating to a tech review from Digital Foundry, where John Linnerman stated that HDR looked good to him when discussing the console versions of the game, I have to say that I have no interest whatsoever in these kind of live service games. The looting and repetitive grinding just leaves me cold. Judging by the views of the wider gaming press, this games looks like another big miss and I won’t be surprised if it fails like so many live service games before it.
Do you have the Same Problem with the annoying bright ghosting when you move the Cam slowly I Play on ps5 my TV 165hz 1440p HDR 10 freesync and this smart respons Maybee you have an answer
@@teddyholiday8038 No, way before that when John was discussing the console versions at around 9:30, he said that ‘the game also supports HDR and it looks pretty good to my eyes’. Try watching the whole video.
No need to call out again and again. Devs simply do no care and release knowing it’s broke. It’s just how the industry is and not going to change since many still buy it.
I think I'll give it a miss 😅 It's probably best games like this fail so badly though it does suck for the studios that are put in this position by their publishers greed (imo)
Game does not look anything like this on Xbox. Everything is spot on in HDR. Compared to this video, everything here looks bad. Colour saturation, black lvl raise, washed out, etc. Looks like intentional, not saying it is but is sooo different from what I see on my screen when playing on series X.
Like A Dragon: Infinite Wealth also has a really weird HDR implementation. I don't know if this is just imagination, but for me the image quality looks much better and with less aliasing with HDR off in this game. By the way, Infinite Wealth is again absolutely amazing. I love how japanese developers don't care about being "politically correct", they just do whatever they want and it's so much fun.
@@riddickfurya3577 the game sold under 250k copies and highest peaked on steam is 12k that 19k less the Marvels Avengers 🤣 I don’t need to play a game to know it’s trash, like i don’t need to drive a Toyota Yaris to know my BMW is better. The game is pure woke trash 🚮 and the Rocksteady who created it is not the Rocksteady that created the Arkham series, that Rocksteady left 4 years ago with the co-founders and is now Hundred Star Games, so what you got left is woke devs who got no respect for the DC source material. I guess you love Gotham Knights to 🤣 Think about it, under 250k copies sold, pure trash 🚮 Even ign gave it a 5/10, IGN, think hard about that 🤣 Now watch how Rocksteady is going to get hit by huge amount of layoffs and what’s this game get shot down in 1 year tops, it’s going to be beautiful to watch 🥳
@BA3YDADDY you rode that hate machine too seriously. Another cookie cutter. 🍪 😂 I swear this generation gets too offensive & woke nowadays. Crybabies 🤤👶
@BA3YDADDY quick note, cyberpunk was a mess at launch, now fixed. No man's sky was a mess at launch, now fixed. Even fallout 76 was a disaster & gotten better. If you're a gamer, you would be patient with development & support the cause. But instead, you would rather ride that hate train 😂 stay salty 🧂 😜
@@riddickfurya3577 You are comparing CP77 to SS, what’s wrong with you dude? it’s two totally different situations 🤦🏻♂️ CP77 had performance and bug problems, like the worst kind but the game was still the same as it is now, now it just runs like it should have from the get go. SS doesn’t have performance issues, it’s the core game that’s trash not the performance and the game was 9 years in development 🤦🏻♂️ best part is give this game 9 more years and you still have a piece of woke garbage like now, with no respect for the DC source material. I’m 45 dude, this generation 🤦🏻♂️ what I’m saying is facts, the game is woke garbage and you apparently can’t handle that. Keep coping dude 🤣
@@teddyholiday8038 maybe I'm not looking hard enough or my TV settings but I didn't see anything bad on my LG cx. I've only played 2 times because of work, but my initial impressions were the game looked really good. I'll play tomorrow again and pay more attention.
