I've personally had family that attempted suicide and you know what saved them? Listening to them and answering that call for help, their cry didnt go unheard.
In "today's U.S. military" (regardless of branch) this new trainee would have been identified and ASMO'd within a few weeks of basic training. Back in 1968, there was still this idea that a "swift kick" could straighten out the recruit. What's really "scary" is that the number of 17 to 25-year-olds in the U.S. who are "unfit to serve" (for whatever reason) has "increased exponentially" since 1968. The various branches of the DoD have been gradually lowering their performance standards for recruits over the last 10+ years -- to be able to meet their recruiting and retention goals.
@@williamrosenbloom215 it means you get placed in a division in boot camp that has less time in than yours, a newer one, thereby you extend and repeat bootcamp so you can get your sh-t together 👍
Man, I feel so sorry for this guy. There's real people like that all around us. I'm just the type of person when I see someone having a hard time and they're alone, I go up and talk to them.
That's mighty kind of you sir. I only wish there were more people like you in society. I think most of us have all been on both sides of this issue. Yours truly included. Never been the academic type. Just barely made it through school. Army basic training was no different. I didn't struggle to bad but I did have my days were our drill sgt paid special attention to me after having made a mistake. Important thing is to learn from the mistake. In combat any mistake can get you/fellow soldiers killed. So they drill it home in the hopes you will make it back home if and when you are sent to war. The military is not geared to coddle anyone. As it should be. You either get it/learn from your mistakes or you dont. In which case, if they can't train you, they will show you the door.
its direct, and it isn't fearful of criticism of stereotyping or generalizations. Even though its nearly 6 decades old, its actually a breathe of fresh air.
Men have to talk with each other,more men than women because women can talk with each other over a cup of tea and have a cry and a cuddle,men are supposed to be hard and it's seen as a weakness to talk but we men need to show our emotions. If any man needs to talk I'm here. All lives matter ❤❤
It happens too often, we fell for the myth, "if they try it or talk about it, the will not do it again, "I was wrong, and now my daughter is a widow and my Grandson with out his Father.
Its funny how this 1968 US Army film got suicide better that modern day national and especially private education institutions (German and Lithuanian Ive experienced firsthand). P.S. the psychosis you get after ODing on painkillers is absolutely mental and I cannot describe how weird it feels (dont ask how I know this, should be obvious).
@@barneyronniepainkillers like paracetamol are lethal .....it's the first question a paramedic will ask if you take an overdose because paracetamol is so dangerous ......
31:50 no wonder the guy's suicidal. he gets told to clean pots and pans that are fucking brand new. military assholes probably running white gloves up the pot and lying about it being clean enough. that poor guy.
Served 3 yrs in the mari e corps during the late 60's and early 70's. Big part in Asia. Saw no combat, but thought I won't make it out alive. Was 19yrs. I came out a different person. If I had been in a combat zone, I would have certainly changed even more. The point I am trying to make is you can change so much that you feel far removed from the person you once were. And I don't mean in a good way. You don't feel in anyway part of the family you once had. That isolation and change of personality can be overwhelming. No wonder suicide in the military is twice as high vs the rest of society. We should only allow men/women who go into combat to be 30 yrs or older!
So all the more need to present alternative solutions. That little cliche shouldn't be used as a synonym for "Just don't kill yourself, dummy," - if it was that easy nobody would.
In real life basic training, It was standard procedure to quickly single out some poor schmuck as "the guy everybody else doesn't want to be". For trainees to absorb the concept of a whole team being damaged by the weakest member, a poor performance by Owens would result in actions like Owens being forced to stand and suck his thumb watching the rest of his company do extra pushups in the gravel. The idea wasn't to encourage his peers to help Owens, it would be to have the rest of the company fear and hate screwups. If that had brought out a little extra motivation in guys like Owens, fine, but the idea was to motivate others to foster a general fear of substandard performance. The military tries to keep casualties to a minimum, but accepts their inevitability. If a few scapegoats like Owens got used too hard and pushed over the edge, it was acceptable, as long as their misery was put to good use.
@@prevost8686 considering Patton was referring to the nazis, was a delusional man who thought he was a reborn Roman soldier..... Jeebus fuck people who live by quotes are the dumbest people around.
Ever consider if the nazis werent stopped they would have done far more damage?..... PR campaigns for braggart generals who know nothing but the battlefield are truly disgusting.
5:42 Well at least the man got it over the wall. Some trainees get so scared/nervous that they either drop the grenade or throw it against the wall. In which case the drill sgt has to act quickly before they both get blown to hell.
Following orders a few seconds too late, leaving room for contemplation of the underappreciated weight of our actions, its just not useful to those who seem to believe its mankind that turns the earth. Having said that, I'd like to add that my above comment seems, even to myself, like the perfectly opposite direction of whatever works for people to quell suicidality.
And the award for the worst actress in an Army training film goes to.......the actress portraying Laura Benson. Her overly dramatic acting makes it hard to take this subject matter seriously.
The contents of this video are still relevant in 2024. And sadly believable. Except the "Laura Benson" story seems unrealistic; she's portrayed as paranoid, hysterical, delusional, and having mental problems at the beginning of her saga, even before her grasp on reality takes a dive when her boyfriend' leaves. It seems doubtful she'd pass a basic background and psych profile for military service. And it's strange that her associates and superiors are depicted allowing her emotional/behavioral problems to go unchecked without intervention to the extreme enacted in the video -- just wondering about it.
It was called a regimental bath in the British army ..the victim was chucked naked into a bath and scrubbed down with yard brooms and Dettol and laundry powder Funnily enough the one who they did it to in my room turned out to rape and murder a young girl in the supermarket where they both worked...a few years after he left the army ....
@@madabusiv not if his symptoms started after he was medically cleared. He may not have had a history of any kind of behavioral, mood or anxiety disorders and had no prior history of self harming either.
You make a valid point. Many, many young people have joined the military as some sort of last resort to “fix” issues in their lives and most only bring their problems with them which affects everyone else around them that depend on them to do their job. I can’t speak for all branches of the military but the USMC has greatly increased their screening efforts of potential recruits in order to detect serious mental health issues before they are sent to boot. In the old days a judge would give a troubled young man the choice between jail and the military. All that did was to send trouble makers into the armed forces. The Marines learned some hard lessons from accepting such individuals. If you’ve got a history of drug use and troubles with the police you can forget joining the Marines. Perhaps other branches will accept you. The military is not therapy for troubled people.
27:00 All these melodramatic people, I think they do it on purpose. Sadness/crying has a strange addictiveness to it... at least that's what my human friends tell me.
It's not on purpose. The lady possibly suffers from BPD or other personality disorder. Her emotions are over the top, but honest. Trust me, crying like this all the time will very soon make you want to avoid it
@@usel7226 I cry often but because I am mourning essentially my entire family almost other than a couple cousins I don't see, and my best friends. They all died or are gone in some way. It is true loneliness having nobody to even reminisce with, and nobody who knows you.
@@usel7226 people like you would probably assume I was histrionic merely because of that, though I have seen many doctors and therapists and psychologists and was only ever diagnosed with PTSD/anxiety disorders/moderate to severe depression. You don't know what someone has been through
All the people around them needed to know JESUS. They didn't know how to be compassionate. No one suggested with enthusiasm that a Chaplain should be seen. This is OLD, but I read suicide is STILL a problem in the military. Not enough of us know about hell and the lake of fire! There are horrible consequences for taking the life GOD gives us. THE BLOOD OF JESUS SHALL PREVAIL!
JESUS LOVES HIS PEOPLE! To believe in Christ and His finished work on the cross saves you from eternal damnation. And yes, they lacked the solace and fortitude that a personal relationship with the Lord provides. It is God's desire that all be washed in the blood of the Lamb.
@@odenviking Depression was the spirit that gripped me MANY times before JESUS saved me 47 years ago! Alcohol, chain smoking cigarettes, fornication, VERY profane, etc. The LORD has given me JOY unspeakable and full of GLORY! YOU will have to answer to Him for every idle word you speak. Your OWN words will take you to Heaven or send you to hell. "But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment. For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned." Matthew 12:36-37! WOE because of what you've said ALREADY! REPENT!
There is a HELL! Self murder is punishable by judgment to hell! "If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy: for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are." 1 Corinthians 3:17! GOD destroys with ETERNAL punishment in the lake of fire and brimstone, the second death! (Revelation 20:8!) Receive JESUS for deliverance from depression and suicidal thoughts! Amen! "Receive ye the Holy Ghost:" John 20:22b! Receive JOY unspeakable and full of GLORY! 1 Peter 1:8! HALLELUJAH! St John 3:16! 💓
Yes this is true. So let us love one another as we love ourselves. To see to each other's mental, emotional, physical, and spiritual health. May we pray for each other with honesty, and strength. Lean on the all powerful God the Father.
Your soul is precious to GOD! Stay ALIVE! This is the time we've been waiting for! JESUS is Returning SOON! ALLELUIA! 🙏🙌👏 RECEIVE JESUS as your LORD and SAVIOUR to have your name secured in His Book of Life! "And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire." Revelation 20:15!
