taking mustafa own sword and kill the commandant, was such a subtle power move, but clever writing from the show creators. And the look Suleyman gives to Mustafa after.
This is why the Janissaries did not rebel against Suleiman, because they knew that Suleiman would cut off their heads with his own hand when they did the slightest rebellion
The Janissaries were a guild of extremely highly-trained soldiers and warriors, thought by many (and certainly themselves) to be the best in the world at the time. They were also ten thousand strong, armed and ready in the capital, and loyal first to each other, second to the Sultan. If the sultan wanted to threaten their future with one they didn't like, they absolutely would and did rebel. Quite successfully. Suleiman's speech there is the speech of a sultan with a death wish. Had Ferhat Agha given the command, the sultan would have been the one killed. His few guards could have done nothing. You can see at 2:30 the Janissary soldiers not afraid - they're waiting for a command one way or the other. It's only the commander that is scared, and chose to acquiesce instead of forcing the issue. Suleiman gambled heavily here, and happened to win.
@@AJKecsk Yes, but they were only one division of the Ottoman army. When the Sultan has charisma and the army remains subservient to him, the Janissaries cannot do anything becquse the whole Ottoman army will be against them , and when he is weak and does not have charisma and the Ottoman army does not like him, then the Janissaries will find the freedom to rebel against him
@@AJKecsk Suleiman lead many wars during his time with success. He was highly respected by the Janissaries as well as by the rest of those in power. Going against a well loved Sultan was suicide, especially in the relative early years of the empire. The Janissary rebellions that came later was against mostly weak and unpopular sultans, and the stagnation of the Ottoman expansion was the main reason for its instability and decline, as distributing the riches of conquest was a large source of the dynasty's power base.
@@AJKecsky Your perspective is quite accurate. However, janissaries were trained for having absolute loyalty to the sultan. That was one of the fundamental thing they were taught after capture. However the janissaries emerged as a political institution in 17th century from which point on having the support of janissaries was a necessity for being the sultan. By the 18th century however they became largely corrupted and resisted against any attempt in reform which prompted Sultan Mahmud II to disband them in 1826. However during Suleyman's time Sultans were god like figures who couldn't even be touched. And partly this respect shown to the sultan by the janissaries was due to the personal charisma of rulers like mehmed II, selim I and suleyman I. Hence the time they are talking about, yes the janissaries couldn't but follow the sultan.
Mustafa should have killed the Janissary commander when he went to the barracks to defend Selim. That is what Suleyman would expect. But Mustafa wanted to remain in the good graces of the Janissaries so he was diplomatic in the resolution of the affair: he interrupted the confusion and led prince and royal regent Selim out of the barracks. But in so doing he let the offense against the Dynasty go unpunished. That was Mustafa's mistake: that he chose to be soft on the rebel Janissaries to retain his prestige with them And Suleyman could not approve of that, nor could the Sultan let the offense against the House of Osman remain without punishment.
@@antoniocarloslemosbasto294 Mustafa may have been a great prince but he was never fit to rule, he lack what his brother Selim had... absolute commitment to the throne. The latter never hesitated and that's why he ruled. He may have been a drunk but he was no fool.
In this case selim was not wrong. As the chief of capital, he had gone to talk with jenissaries. But they drew swords on a prince who is a valiant to capital. Beheading was the only punishment for such misdeed. Even it should be done from Mustafa but on the peak of the moment he couldn’t do it.
1:35 that the same sentence sultan Murad said in ep 31 timeline 44:53I think ,now I know why everyone says Murad resembles his great great grandfather sultan Suleiman khan
@@conserztasfia0078 no Suleiman had the options to be soft and not punish them ,kill the leader for them to learn a lesson or kill the whole battalion but Murad only had two options in his whole life kill or be killed because when they one man caused a rebellion all of them were with him .and hard time made him a man with such character
he was not that much into wars he just had to lean how to fight because it was a prince's duty , he loved art and literature and he used to invite artists, scholars and writers all the time during his reign
@@bre3756the problem is if all the other empires are waiting for you to show a little bit of weakness so they can pounce. That's why the leader needed violent nature in him so the enemies can't take advantage
The costumes designed for the series are absolutely beautiful. Especially, the jewels on Suleiman and his princes' turbans are exquisite. Every piece of the outfit designed for the series is fascinating.
bro just read about sultan mahmud the second, he is the last badass ottoman sultan, he is also the luckiest sultan ever, when the janissaries tried to kill him along with his cousin sultan selim the third, the janissaries killed selim but mahmud escaped and led a revolt against the janissaries andkilled many of them in just few hours, then a couple of years later he went to their barracks and bombarded them with cannons and annihilated them for good
4:40 if the plot wasn't that trash, the series would be the best series ever made, how perfectly they portrayed Selim the grim and Suleiman the magnificent I got goosebumps when i saw that Suleiman saw himself as as his father Selim in the mirror knowing he might become like him🥶
I laugh when these slave soldiers think they are above the sultan it’s hilarious they never learned from their former leaders getting beheaded for the same crimes
But what was the difference between sultan suleiman and sultan the young osman? Janesseries feard sultan suleiman the most buy they didnt event hesitate to raise their sword on sultan osman.I think sultan suleiman had other arm force and he did not depend on janesseries fully.
1:34 Ben ki, Yedi İklim, Üç Kıtanın Sultanı ! Cihan Padişahı ! Allah'ın Yeryüzündeki Gölgesi Sultan Süleyman Hanım ! Siz, Cümle Osmanlı Mülkünde Yaşayan Herkes Gibi Benim Tebaamsınız !
@@PualClinton-qc3ru The Janissaries are one of many examples in history where you let foreigners handle military power and it ends up ruining you. England exists because the local (celtic) British kings invited German mercenaries to fight their wars, who then betrayed their employers and created England. The Abbasid Caliphate itself felt that using Muslims to fight other Muslims would be contrary to religious law, so they used Turkish slaves in their military. Those slaves then ended up ruling the Abbasids. Those Turks themselves being the ancestors of the Ottomans. The Ottoman sultans created the Janissary Corp as a military independent from their aristocratic, horse-riding Anatolian Turk families. It was effective and did mean that the Sultan was not not constrained by tradition or internal rivals, but it also lead to the Janissaries (who followed the same mystical Sufism that the ruling dynasty did) had to be appeased no matter what. They never formed their own nation like the two previous examples, but did serve as the real power behind the throne for 2 centuries. Here's an interesting fun fact, you can predict the inevitable collapse of the Ottoman Empire in the 16th century. Spain, Portugal, England and France discover the New World, their overseas mines bring in 10x more silver and gold than existed before, and during Murad III's reign we already have a 100% inflation rate. After that point, it became impossible for the Ottoman state to reform its finances or military. It existed solely to collect taxes that would then pay Janissary wages.
I never liked Suleiman ( show version) he was a weak lead but damm his speeches are 👍👍👍👍👍👍🔥🔥🔥🔥the actor has charisma and screen presence too bad the writing for his character was 😒
Sometimes I worries about peoples reading abilities. OP clearly stated that they found the SHOW version weak. Not that they considered the real Sulieman weak. Come on. You can do better 🤦🏽♀️
its horrible Suleiman used Mustafa sword. He's threatening his son who saved his brother. Mustafa had a choice of letting Selim die, but he chose to save him. Its like the Sultan doesnt care about that at all.
But such situation arised because mustafa had given the army too much confidence and power that they will decide who should be the sultan and which price to kill.. To keep the army in line and show them that sultan is above army and not vice versa.. Suleyman did the right thing.. If u have watch kosem sultan, then u will know this army can do the worst when not kept in control...
@@sadafrafiq5006 I have watched Kosem. But what happened there is a totally different situation, not to mention were not talking about that show. And Mustafa never gave the army power, he just earned their loyalty. They supported him over him over the other princes. But my point is the since the sultan used Mustafa sword, he is threatening and blaming Mustafa for what happened. He doesnt care that Mustafa saved Selim at all. Mustafa had the chance to let Selim die, removing someone who stood in his way as next Sultan but he saved him instead.
@@emilish624 its not totally different situation.. That time army preferred mustafa(kosem sultan) over osman.. So they killed osman.. Here they preferred mustafa over selim. So they tried to kill selim.. Its the same army, same mentality.. Suleyman knew how to keep army in line..
At around 35 seconds,,,,when Sultan meets ferhat, Fermat, Refers to Sultan. As En Karan??? Does anyone know what the actual term is…I keep hearing the word but can’t make it out. En karam ….en Karan? I know it supposed to mean Sutlans title like padishah but don’t know spelling of it.
This was the nail in Mustafas coffin, Suleyman knew Mustafa did not have what it took to be a true leader, and showed weakness against the offense to the dynasty. The janissaries only wanted him because he was a puppet …they would of dethroned him and installed his son, to control the sultanate. Just like kosem did , she murdered sultan Ahmed and her own children.
Read It before, she murdered her own children and grandchildren yiu think she wouldn’t murder Ahmed. Along with the lover and the male slave close to her @@Badboy-kq5ds
I guess it would be a smarter move for mustafa to let selim die and later execute that janissary leader on his own. By doing this, he would have been got rid of one of his competitor and by executing janissary leader by his own hand would keep him loyal to sultan.
Did the Sultans really say they were rulers of the 7 seas and all the other stuff? Considering at the time the Spanish were already busy sending out settlers all over America 🌎
@@aaratiadhikari5916 Venezuela founded in 1515, Santo Domingo 1502, Havana 1519, 1521 was when Mexico City was founded. Basically during Selim The Grims reign. Buenos Aires 1531. By then the Americas were being explored and settled. The Spanish Empire was well on its way. By 1600 the Spanish military wasn’t just Europeans but the converted peoples of the Americas wearing there uniforms and leading military expeditions against natives who had not yet assimilated. So by Ahmed’s reign the Sultans were irrelevant as the Spanish Empire reigned from San José California to Patagonia.
He thinks he's the shadow of god. '' Rulers of the 7 seas '' is just nothing. And, If you google it ''seven seas'' you will see a map. If you compare that map with the Ottoman map, you will understand.
He was always afraid to be like his father Guess what Hurrem turned him in to something worse than what he was afraid to become At least sultan selim didn't kill his own son and was never a puppet
@@AB-om2te you are speaking about my own country history something I spend my whole school and university time learning not reading from wiki or Google 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Remembered better 😂😂😂😂
Selim is a Prince. He is above them in every sense of the word. Their job is not to question him and certainly not to challenge or threaten to kill him. They have one job: protect the royal family no questions asked. While I think beheading the commander like Suleiman did was a bit too much, they needed to be put into their place. Mustafa had the right approach: give one warning and if they did it again, then execute them.
If the real sultan Suleiman have killed like that the chief of the Janissaries in front of thousands of Janissaries, he would have been cut to pieces by the Janissaries.
Monarchies are forbidden in Islam.All Kings,sultans, khan's are Kufr.They aren't Islam but yezidis Muhavi. Ottoman impery wasn't a Islamic .rule.But just a pure imperialism. Ja Hu
That's what happens when you threaten a man's son and he finds out. Especially when he is a leader of a nation. A parents fury against those that threaten their offspring is among the scariest things on Earth.