Finally, someone who gives a normal, natural explanation for ancient history without embellishing with aliens and gods and religion! Thank you so much!
Tina, you have brought more clarity to these items than I have ever seen. The completeness of scope and the rigor of your analysis here is remarkable. Thank you for addressing these questions surrounding Sumerian symbology with such amazing acuity. You have a rare gift for explaining all aspects and sifting out the solutions.
@@CuriousBeingbyTina The alleged handbags are not literally handbags. The images you are looking at are depicted in ancient symbolism. 1. Said handbag is a "Sepulcher". That is not just my opinion: it is listed in Getting's Dictionary of Occult Symbols and Sigils as such 2. The pine cone or pineal gland thing seen being installed within men and or in the Tree of Life represents the soul or consciousness 3. The eagle headed winged creatures represent the flight of the soul of spirits which prey upon the living, hence the wings and eagle head 4. The tree of life is the "Maker of the Gods" a Quantum Ai which transfers consciousness in and out of host bodies: hence the Christian God being called "LORD of Hosts" This gives a whole new meaning to - "Going to hell in a handbasket" I have several articles that will substantiate all I have shown here, however, as soon as I attempt to post links thereto, Tubular Ai deletes my post. I could email them if you like?
@@dwaynewojtysiak2815 One might ask, Why do we not see Tina discussing the content of her videos with anyone? I would hazard to guess that be the case because it s not her content, she is likely a spokesperson for whoever produces the content, which obviously knows that their audience is predominantly male, hence the good looking female lure. So don't expect logic or deductive reasoning from Tina: the best one can hope for in that regard is a "Thank you" just like everyone else gets
@@misterwakeupcall yes sir and I'm sick of it so I pick out the ones that mislead the most and insert real knowledge in hope that people like you are validated in your evaluation maybe not you personally. But most importantly people who belive this crap need to know its crap . And politely suggest they are being lie to about everything on the governmental indoctrinated propaganda tube. But thanks for reaching out.
Fantastic insight and not an explanation I’ve heard anywhere before. It makes total sense that such an important plant and the processes associated with producing the fruit would be important enough to carve in relief - literally the tree of life for all the civilisations who lived in that region over the millennia. Keep up the great work!
Magnificent presentation! Your study into this subject has dismissed all the speculative theories that went before it. Your research provides facts and continuity which are easily understandable. Thank you for clarifying this ancient part of history, and I look forward to your next release with great enthusiasm. You turn a mystery into something quite understandable!
Wow! You really blew my mind with this recent revelation thank you for your insight, Tina. Your research is valuable your knowledge is vastly superior to most. I've binge watched most of your videos now, And I am ready to support your work. You have the uncanny ability to draw the parallels with what we see in the past with what we know today and do in moderate industry and draw highly compelling conclusions with the evidence and facts at hand for this I am truly grateful.
The trouble with your videos Tina is that when I see a new one uploaded I have to drop whatever else I'm doing to watch it asap! Going to make a special treat out of this one, my favourite subject. Thank you!
"So much has changed, and so much has remained the same." The best insight from this presentation. This entire series really should reach a much wider audience.
Glad that you enjoyed the video :-) My channel has been shadowbanned on YT for a while...so it's hard for me to reach to a wider audience. Please share with your friends if any might be interested!
I can confirm that you're being shadow-banned. I'm subscribed to your channel, and yet RU-vid never shows me when you've made a new video, nor do you ever appear on my feed. Which is weird, because you're way more scientific-minded and evidence based than all of the other "ancient mysteries" type channels. Someone must have reported you, but God knows for what.
Research and common sense make this presentation completely plausible. All to often the "scholars" stick to one theory without considering what sits in front of them. Keep up the good work.
Never knew there was so much to Date Palms 🌴.. Amazing , I think there is a 👜 on a Pillar at Gobekli Tepe, which, Some believe to be 10,500BC ??....The Wrist Watch always intrigued me aswell ...I think your right on with the pollination of life..Luv your Videos 🙂
Thank you for this excellent presentation! It is by far the most plausible explanation of this topic than any I have ever heard before, and your thoroughness is wonderful.
Brilliant!!! A major mystery solved! You covered a lot of bases and connected a lot of dots. I'm glad to have watched and learned what you've 'discovered'.
Great job Tina! I agree with everyone else, most plausible explanation so far. Suggested next steps: time line tie ins, knowledge transfers (Apkallu) between other megalithic depictions/sites. Other asides: bird, fish, men transitions, "wrist watch" bangle, Atlantis, Indus Valley possibilities.
Excellent job. Good point they aren't Gods w the hand objects and bags. They are the teachers who went worldwide after the Comet/Plasma events of 10,000 + years ago when civilization was destroyed. There is understandable distortion resulting from the cultural lens that the various cultures remembered them thru. Here pollen and buckets (1 cup flat bucket , some bucket ) , in India, drill bits and bag. The symbols of the teachers office were the hand object, the bag and of course the wrist band. You see them depicted everywhere on Earth w minor changes resulting from what things and concepts each area was familiar with.
Hot damn! That was good! You nailed that down every which way from up. Ok. That theory makes perfect sense. Now. Other cultures also have figures with “bags”. The meso-American Indians for example. I don’t recall the “pine cone” there, off hand. Is that your next effort, maybe? Fox out
I haven't seen much of you but that made up for it. Thanks that was out of the blue with the interesting way you explained all that, and you littered it with plenty of other stuff to get the mind in gear. Thankyou very muchly
Another fine video. Thanks, Tina. These magnificent Sumerian reliefs fascinate me. To my knowledge this video is the first TRUE documentary on the subject. Please keep up the good work.
Maybe because the bucket and cone were used to pollenate the dates they saw this as a sign of fertility. And this in turn became their fertility god. I like the theory.
I am convinced that you are correct after watching the video, subscribed. I've read a number of 19th century books that surmised the same, but never mentioned that they are dioecious. Very well done, it is about time that someone put it together.
@@andrewruiz7894 Since the "bags" are so prevalent, I think they could be practical tools like spears or bows and arrows which also show up in many cultures. Some might be bags while some might be used for other purposes.
You go beyond awesome Tina! You keep splashing logic, common sense, and intellect at the pet theories of lunatics making tons of money on conspiracy theories. I'm so glad your out there finessing the reality out of myth. Thank You!
Thank you Tina for posting your videos. You have a unique take on take on the ancient world which draws on a much wider scope than other male speakers. And, this video was amazing too. You have inspired me to visit China again to see the Longshon Caves.
Awesome video and super informative with a great depth of insight. Great research. It also doesn’t take away from the fact that that handbag is all around the world and links many civilizations through important knowledge. Can’t wait to see the follow up on the rest of the locations with this iconography.
Thank you so much Tina! You have singlehandedly answered questions the entire High Strangeness/Ancient Mysteries community has been struggling with for years!
As many comments below have stated, I think you nailed it. Good job, I'm completely convinced. Probably you found the true explanation, it makes sense and fits perfectly!
Hi Tina, the best presentation of early Mesopotamia culture and history ive seen👍 On a good clear image of the moon you can make out an outline from shadows of the craters of a figure standing in the same pose as the carvings. Considering that the full moon quite often triggers the male and female plants to pollenation and the importance of the moon as a natural monthly time keeping instrument.
This is the most sensible explanation I have ever heard! And this is now my absolute favourite channel on these matters. madam you are truly a fantastic exquisite mind, Thank you.
The explanation you gave has merit, but it doesn't explain why so many other cultures around the world share many similarities with these depictions. This may be the way these particular cultures tell their version of this algigory making it relatable them. With a wide variety of cultures having some depiction of the pinecone and hand bag I would have to say there is something more to this. Great info!
@@CuriousBeingbyTina I've heard that an old Maori creationist myth talks about Gods creating the world out of 3 baskets. Forgot what they contained but it is might also be relevant in this context that the Maori language seems to be related to some of the languages of North African tribes. This was discovered during the second world war, when the Maori soldiers stationed in there found themselves capable of understanding some of the local languages. I don't have the details but it would be great to know if their myths could in any way be drawing from the cultures and myths from that part of the world and from those around Gobleki tepe (which is only a 'walking distance' so to say from North Africa).
Compelling information Tina, great research. Interesting that the pine cone and palm both symbolise eternal life. Will you be doing more videos on this subject I wonder, as the pine cone symbol appears in other ancient civilisations, in fact I've just noticed the buildings of Angkor Wat plus it's use by the Aztecs and the Vatican!. Also the handbag symbols on pillar 43 at Gobekli Tepi. The Mesopotamian symbolism is fascinating but I can see a follow-up video?!
Great video! Lots of information. I was wondering what you thought of the bag depicted by the Olmec? Also Gobeckli, pillar 43 shows similar. I have watched your videos with great interest. Thank you.0
I read some detailed reviews on Sitchin’s concept of Nibiru and the Anunnaki. From what I read, it seems that despite being a fascinating idea, Sitchin’s translation might not be that accurate which results in a not-so-solid theory.
Fantástica y certera explicación del misterio de los bolsos de todo el mundo. Yo siempre he pensado que debían ser canastos de semillas precursoras de la vida al sembrarlas en la tierra igual que ocurre con el espermatozoide y el óvulo. Estoy impresionado de tan perfecta explicación respecto a los apkallu y que ciertamente eran dátiles y palmeras y que fecundaban las palmeras hembras. Como apunte si me lo permite, decir que pienso que los representaban con alas porque subían a las palmeras y la representación era simbólica y desde luego eran unos héroes precursores de la vida y alimentos. Totalmente de acuerdo que las bendiciones en todas las culturas vienen de Mesopotamia. ¡ Muchas gracias por tan excelentes video !
Gracias por compartir conmigo. ¡Lo agradezco mucho! Es una buena idea que los semidioses con alas puedan representar personas o dioses trepando palmeras. ¡Gracias!
This was a fantastically insightful presentation. Too many are focused on other symbolic interpretations that don't always make sense. While it is possible that there are other meanings for these symbols, your analysis of what these represent cannot be ignored. Thanks for sharing this information.
Your theory sounds plausible and worth considering. I just wonder if you noticed the wristbands/watches on many of these carvings. Also, a lot of them show one leg that. Looks odd. Looks like muscle and/or bone.
Thank you Robin. I think the bracelets/wristwatches might be decorative items because the kings and their courtiers are also shown wearing similar bracelets; they are not exclusive to the Apkallu. As for the one leg question, it seems to me that these figures are dressed in gowns/robes with bottom slits where one leg is usually shown at the slits.
Just "WOW"! Like CO2! You have a very convincing and cogent argument about the ancient chinese burial tombs and about the date palm tree. I really like your thinking about the Tree of Life being an ancient or original date Palm tree.❤😮😊
Tina, my stunning young friend, another high standard production! while watching, i was reminded of a RU-vid video that was of a Michael Tellinger speech at an esoteric convention. i hope that he watches this sometime soon, or even any promoter BEFORE hiring him for one of his presentations. this way he will hopefully understand why he is a prime example of why things esoteric have a negative connotation, or he chooses to do actual research before espousing another bs theory of his own concoction. for just a sample of this occasion i'll paraphrase. he claimed that the pinecones (date fruit) depicted in one of the same examples you've shown are an advanced technology that unlocks production of dormant capabilities within the pineal gland. he added that the form & function of these he had no explanation for as his expertise is outside of the engineering & science behind the manufacturing of such devices. i was glad that it was a video i had playing in the background as opposed to having been one who paid to attend the lecture! as always my friend, much 💗 ✌️🐝➕
I really like your channell🙂 I've heard a lot of people discussing "handbags" but not 1 person tells what they think they really they are or represent. Or so it seems
Hi Tina, thank you very much for this great video. Your interpretation of the ancient representations is a bull's eye from my point of view. With this contribution you declassify all the others as cranks and idiots.
Hello 👋Tina. Wow, you made the mystical art work to an understandable instruction manual for pollinating datepalms. Curious thing is that a friend at work told me last week of male and female datepalms and that they pollinated them by hand in his homeland. But i didnt know how it looked like, now i know. Thankyou for your knowledge. About the handbags 👜, there is a maori story about the handbag 👜 containing knowledge, i have seen one in Brien Foersters videos from a snake 🐍 temple in southamerica and göbekli tepe. I think these teachers went worldwide 🌎🤔🌼☀️🌙🐍🦅🏺🌍🐉🔥🗿🌏.
Hi Mie Mie, glad to hear that you found my video helpful. Thank you for sharing with me with the Maori bag story. I will make a follow-up video on the handbags from other cultures :-)
I think your explanation is correct. Very convincing and well presented. Just a breath of fresh air after all the supernatural cosmological speculation on the subject.
Very insightful as usual, I would say you "nailed it" with that analysis Tina. The bags are often described as a symbol of knowledge sharing or transfer. Your take on this is logical and makes total sense.
Thank you Tina, I've been researching this topic for some time, and you have presented an excellent discussion while keeping to the pragmatic reality the Sumerians and Akkadians would have experienced in their time. I'd love to hear your thoughts on the same handbag reliefs depicted in other cultures around the world, particularly the Maya.
Look up Symbols of an Alien Sky by David Talbot. Dont bother with it being called psuedo before you have a look. Its a 3 part documentary. Nobel prize recipients, electrical engineers and plasma science come together because of archetype symbols around the world
Well done. Very insightful. Well presented and I also love your accent. You have brought a subject that I have thought about for quite a while, thoroughly to rest for me.
@@CuriousBeingbyTina you curated a respectable channel here and I'm interested in your presentation skills as I'm finding out that my own research isn't as well investigated as you are on any given topic. I'm learning stuff and that makes you 😎👍 awesome
Thank you for sharing I knew about the pollination yet I'd heard it explained they used a pinecone as applicator... Didn't make sense... Now seen date palm cone makes more sense Thank you Sending big hug
You are so damn good at research. I'm always impressed by your videos. By the way, for some reason youtube likes to hide your newer videos from me. Not all of them though, just the ones that cover alternative views on ancient history.
Thank you! I appreciate the support :-) Yes it seems YT has shadow-banned me; others told me that they no longer receive new video notifications from my channels anymore.
Interesting video! Just wanted to clarify that scholars have assumed the vessel depicted in the reliefs is the same as the 'banduddu' mentioned in texts, but there's no definitive word for the exact vessel shown with the pinecone. The banduddu was used in human rituals for purification, but it wasn't associated with the pinecone like it is in the reliefs of the gods. The pairing of the banduddu and pinecone appears only in divine depictions, not in human rituals.
Another example of your skill in bringing to life the culture of bygone eras and their reason for flourishing. All you have said makes sense of the means by which these people lived and worked, the record they kept and the influence on future generations and other cultures. Bravo. I have one question regarding the epic of Gilgamesh,re the walls of Uruk were they of fired bricks or is the poem asking a question that the poet does not have an answer for?
Thank you. I usually leave my references in the description sections, though for this topic the concept and discovery are my own - I haven't seen any related papers or articles.
Finally made the symbolism of these items make sense. I think the bag represents the holder of knowledge and the “pine cone” is actually the fertilisation process you described from the date tree which completely makes sense. So the bird figure could be Thoth or alternatively those that travel to impart the knowledge carried from the hand bag to artificially start civilisation by spreading knowledge from the tree of life. This is depicting the story of our ancient ancestors starting life on earth. This is why we see it in South America and Mesopotamia
