Udio strikes my ears as lackluster, dark, low energy. Suno is brighter, pushes a dynamic building up. I've tried both myself over the last three days. I just lack the patience to nurse along and try to sort through extended snippets in Udio. For my money, Suno got my subscription. In matters of personal taste, each of us goes our own way.
I'm not even a pop guy, but I noticed Suno does really well with generating catchy hooks and verses for pop related tunes. I have a simple edm electronic tune I made and I swear it could be a K-Pop hit. lol
Yeah its complicated sometimes, most prompting is random, had problems at first to, but after like 30-40 hours of working with Suno, and some tutorial with ai controversy i got it pretty well i guess.
I'm new to Suno & generating music/songs. The main problem i`m having is knowing what type of prompts to use. Im old school when it comes to music, so music genres are very limited to me! would be nice to find a video about what types of music genres are out there these days.
I mean I just got a whole track generated with udio replicating Travis Scott and Lil Uzi in one song. Granted it was like 4-5 hours total and the prompt was long AF. But... I'm really blown away and music industry is screwed.
In my opinion: - Vocals: Udio by far - Instrumental: Udio (but I feel its tracks a little bit empty. Suno is more full of instruments, but sounds a bit too much compressed) - Hits: Suno (vocals are autotuned, but it feels actual) - Features: Suno. Large songs by default, extend the songs from any point you wish... - Overall: Suno, at least until Udio lets you extend the song exactly at the second you want, which is a key feature for me. I don't care too much about full auto generating songs, 'cause what I want is make my own songs. And that's the problem with both two: when you are building a custom song extend by extend, they both forget who was the main singer, which was the tone, which was the melody... all after the chorus. They are unable to make a whole balanced song following your prompts, especially Udio, that forces you to extend, as it has the 30secs cap, so far.
Yup. Especially after the 2nd extension. However, if you regenerate like 50 times, you can usually get something close. But its time consuming and wasteful. Still better and faster than what I can create on my own though.
I think Udio wins, honestly. Udio seems to understand a wider spectrum of music and how to duplicate it authentically and sonically. For example, I still like some of the old school Latin Freestyle music from the 80s and 90s because I heard a lot of it growing up. Udio makes that perfectly. Suno cranked out some dark sounding modernized "I don't know what to call it". I think Suno seems like a better fit for modern music.
There's no competition. I've been using both. Suno (mostly) puts out cookie cutter boring music with vocals that sound heavily autotuned and glitchy. Udio, on the other hand puts out actual music. The vocals often sound very natural, honestly more natural than many pop songs being released today. The songwriting is a million times better, I've heard it do modulations that I'm jealous of. The sound quality is a million times better. There's actual instrument separation. I could go on. Like I said, no competition
THIS. Of course music taste is subjective, but people keep saying that Suno puts out "Hits". Like no? It definitely sounds cookie-cutter. The tracks don't feel unique enough. Even if they were able to get the audio quality up to 320 Kbps, the vocals would still sound way to inhuman. That being said, Suno back in it's Alpha stages made music that sounded much more like Udio does now, but for some reason they downgraded it. If Suno can get their audio quality up and get the Audio grade vocals back, they will be a lot better.
I've used Suno much more than Udio but I have to disagree with the cookie cutter portion. Adding "experimental" to the style prompt has usually yielded some weird (mostly in a good, interesting way) compositions and instrumentations. It's actually Udio that gave me songs that sounded EXACTLY like leading bands in the prompted genre. For example, got a stupidly Periphery-like song when prompted for djent.
@@leonpeeon well then maybe it really is a promoting issue. Manual mode is your friend. I've found I have gotten VASTLY better results from Udio when I switch to manual mode and then make the prompt extremely descriptive.
I added a reply half way down page, I have also found that if you create your own lyrics together with the textual input it is more likley to create the sound you wish from the lyrics! Suno user have used Udio.
AI is all good but it has one major problem. All the songs that I have generated from Suno and Udio not a one was IN TIME. If you check the timing to a click track, it's all over the place. I have tried to insert a specific BPM in the song description with no luck. If AI could fix that, it would be one hell of a program.
I like Suno, but I've often noticed distortion towards the end of my songs. The vocals are generally more natural and creative on Udio. My verdict? I've completely switched to Udio for songs using vocals. Keep up with posting videos, AI Controversy!
3:35 we honestly need more RU-vid Lawyers for these types of things, we have some doctors and some lawyers who talk about other things like policing police and your rights etc but it would really be nice if we had more lawyers on here talking about the music industry and these types of things
Some Udio limitations I've experienced so far: · You can't correct errors. On Suno you can extend song from the previous second where it generates an error or something you don't like. · Udio limited its possibilities by just generating 33 second fragments, which generates bridges you don't want every 33 seconds, and also it makes hard to get short outros and so on. · It's slower than Suno. Advantages vs Suno: · Suno generates music, but Udio can also generate just sound (comedy stand-up, birds sounds...). If you try to do so on Suno it may start with comedy stand-up for instance but it will end up adding some melodies or whatever and you will have to correct that. · It has developed a really good platform for exploring music generated by others by specific searches. · According to the ToS of Udio, you can use the music you generate there for commercial purposes. In the case of Suno, you can do it only if you pay for a subscription plan. · 600 free monthly generations that you can use whenever you want. On Suno you have 5 daily generations, but they are not accumulative. And perhaps a spoiler: According to the ToS of Udio all the music you use as an Input must be free of copyright, but there's no possibility to use Inputs in Suno or Udio yet. Why did they include this in their ToS? Maybe they are planning to give us that great tool in the future :)
Update: Now Udio does let you to correct errors. Not in the middle of the song, but you select the fragment of a creation you want to keep and extend the song at the beginning or the end of that fragment, so that lets you to correct mistakes and also avoids unnecessary bridges. 😁
@@mathias8236actually, it's just the case of taste. But really Udio, though it's still unstable, pretty much better. After generation of hundreds tracks in Suno I should say it repeats often. It is much more predictable, less variable and awfully works with emphasises
@Kutiepov - well, I've been playing with both for a long time. I've just started a channel to put the music out there, LRDVmusic. With Suno, it's easier to correct lyric mistakes with the timestamp function. Udio adlibs words that don't exist and if everything is right, your verse is screwed. After hundreds of generations, I have never repeated an instrumental.
I used to think so until I tried different genres and prompting styles. Some are better in Udio, especially shorter pieces. But I still prefer Suno overall.
Udio is has better audio quality with better sounding instruments. BUT, the vocals are bad, melodies are lame and the backing tracks, while well played, just don't make for good songs. In fact, a lot of my generations were like well played, clean sounding turds. Horrible songwriting and inconsistent song sections. I have rarely got Udio to give me a chorus with the same chords and melody as the first chorus and verses can be off as well. It's just not ready. I would never pay for it at this point. It's going to have to get much better and providing good generations worth turning into a song. Suno is still MUCH better in my opinion. You have to check more than one genre to see that. Good melodies, good backing tracks and you can easily complete songs with solid vocals. It still doesn't have the same audio quality, but it will get there. Sadly, Udio is just hype once you go beyond the realism and audio quality. It sounds like tracks made by a group of top quality studio musicians who are terrible songwriters. And for those who haven't used Suno, you don't get full songs from each generation. You get song sections that currently only "up to" 2 minutes. You might only get 2 verses and a chorus. Maybe OK if you like short instrumentals, but that won't work for full songs with vocals. The other think is that you aren't going to think every generation is useable. IN fact, only about 10% of what I generate is good and extending to a full song can involve a ton of generations to get a good take. You ate NOT going to get the number of songs they state on the subscription listing. That is the number of generations, not songs. I have the Premiere plan and trust me, you aren't going to get anything even close to 2,000 songs. You might not even get 20 *GOOD* songs if you're picky and really want quality.
Not used suno much yet but am subbed to udio. I think if you like modern mainstream music then suno is best but udio can really nail a genre, it's uncanny how good it can sound and the vocals can be absolutely superb so I'm with udio for now but they need to add a few features to make it easier to use when it comes to editing out parts or just needing to extend small sections less than 30 secs.
Hello Bro thanks for amasing videos :). Is it possible (with prompts) to add key of song or harmonic progression (chords) for generated song in Suno or Udio ?
Thank you for showing how this is work. I found ai as an amazing tool I can create music I like. There are lots of tips on how things work. I'm 55 years old, so ... I'm still learning. Thank you very much. I hope your chanel will progress. Thank you . Like and subscription.
For me this is very beginner level. I have made (?) many great sounding songs. My advice: 1. "read the hints from Udio". 2. let's your lyrics write from CHPT, 3. Extend Udio Tracks. -> Udio Fan!
I think a true comparison would be to spend more time trying to create the BEST possible song in both and then comparing. For me Udio has far far better voice quality, sudo sounds very synthetic and obviously fake. No comparison
Udio is better with acoustic intruments and vocals are little bit more real. Suno is great too if you want to do eletronic music. I realy like both but not for the same reason. But if I have a choice to do I'll stay with Suno and I have a pro plan.
Personally, I prefer Suno. My main issue w/Udio is that I can't extend with consistent verses and choruses. So, it really doesn't work with creating an entire song.
For music in Spanish and Latin Urban I have found Suno to give me much better results. In that genre I feel Udio is stuck in the 80s-90s with the latin sound
There is a major difference in the way that Udio and Suno handle extending tracks. Suno (so far) can extend from any point in the track timeline, but each extension is a separate track and you have to explicitly choose (and pay for) the two to be connected. Udio (so far) can only extend from the end of a track, but it automatically includes the original track in the extended version. Udio can also extend backwards, adding material to the start of a track. My vote goes to Udio on this.
Suno makes catchy melodies and hooks, but Udio has much better chord structures/progressions and Udio arrangements are much more natural and mature. Suno has a big problem with noise on many vocals and instruments, making them unusable in many instances. Comparing vocal stems in RipX DAW Pro, it's easy to see the amount of noise on the Suno vocals. Noisy phasing/double tracking effects and noisy unwanted/unnecessary harmonies in Suno makes Udio the outright winner for most genres. I've been using Suno for many months and Udio from day 1 of the Beta release. I've generated 100s of songs and instrumentals in both.
Thanks, great vid. To me they're about the same with the output mix somewhat muddier on Suno. Dealbreaker is Udio's 30 second limit, though I expect that to increase.
You can just keep extending. It's not a limit, it breaks down each section into smaller chunks. I'm guessing to keep render time down, they're clearly using a more advanced voice generator so it takes longer to create. For me it's totally worth it for the improved voice clarity. UI and control needs work though
No one seems to want to point out that as long as the court rulings continue to say purely AI generated content doesn't get copyright protection, Suno's free plan terms for commercial use are not enforceable.
I think Suno is more pop oriented and Udio is more harsh. Weeks ago I got a really creepy track from udio. I liked it. Anyway, both have problems in keeping female vocals clean in power songs and both seem to love techno and electronic, no surprise there.
One is not really better than the other. But each produces better results in certain areas. It also depends on your prompting ability and to some extent your knowledge of music as a whole.
I'm new to all of this . Do you get to use the songs you create to use for your own business? As I'm needing help to make kids songs for my original kids series
Read the T+C's on the sites, I use Suno, if you sub you own the copyright. U create and its yours. I create a small section myself in a DAW and then upload to create new ideas, I still prefer producing the ideas in the old way, but you can create from scratch with clever input, terminology. Check others creations and check on their textual inputs,gives you a good idea.
after just trying udio i gotta say i didnt like its end results however i found the user interface really nice vs suno's which comes off limited however that being said the result from 3.5 suno or 3.0 are far better in my opoin
well, personally... since i´m very unhappy with the short track times @Suno, what is Udio actually good for? Can i use a generated tune and generate 8-10 parts with different lyrics and cut them all together to finally get at least ONE song? Even if that´s the case, it´s not quite a pleasant experience...
thats doable actually . You just need to understand how that works . Every time you extending parts, Suno can adding different lyrics or new structures . Or you just repeating those song structures . BTW you need doing it in custom mode . Examine your tracks and notice when the good timing you can adding more parts . For simple rules which works , start extending at least 50% - &70 % from your total tracks . I. E. if your first generated track have 1 minute, try set starting extending from 00:50 or any time before down beat happen . Feel free to reply if you still wanna ask
@@morizanova well, the extending at Suno is not always great, but since you can set the timer, where to extend, it´s still sort of useful. Does Udio have that same option? Cause I´ve seen nothing there, only 33 sec or nothing. I´m almost fed up with Udio anyway, since there is a certain lack of actually well sounding rhytm, beats and also voices. From around 300 created parts, 250 failed so hard, they almost made my ears bleed... I managed to get 3 nice songs out of it, but chances of decent results are so low, it´s really frustrating more than anything else...
The recording industry vs Ai - You'll be shocked when you find out the RIAA and all three major record labels are suing both these companies using copyrighted material to train their models.
Sounds like i got the same results like you.. i think the structure or the style of singing is most of the time the same.. in suno you hear it often.. like justin biber or disney kind of ... but ai is learning so lets see whats coming up
For using Custom or your own lyrics , Suno seem give us better melodies especially if you`re into pop or catchy tunes meanwhile UDIO giving us hallucinated version or at the best some kind indie melodies . In term of sound quality , Udio feels more RAW than Suno , so that`s plus if you want to edit or doing Stem and remix on top of it . Both have different ideas about genres , it could be how their base model trained . Suno have sample page showing their genre tags so we can spend times in there before spending our credits . Meanwhile UDIO have auto complete which also useful and because its still in Free stage , we can trial and error to type until we`re getting what we wanted . For use cases , I like using Suno as inspiration tools before start doing my own in DAW or at least get the vocal stem from it . And if I need to get one shot sound , Udio will be my go to tools since their sound more clean and raw . With it I can clone the sound using tool like Synth Plant or Muise AI
OK, seems be not much time but i already did like 20 songs with udio, here is the thing, tracks for singing are in my opinion better in Suno (Reggae worked great really great for me in Suno, It like a really REALLY good reggae song. would post the link but unfortunate it does no work. Electric Music i mean the party styles like Hardstyle, Rawstyle, Techno workes in Udio much, much better. Rap: Works in Suno better for sure (If you know the prompts and have a bit luck, mixing trap dark atmospheric just wont make a great rap song on Suno try "Rap, Agressive, Dark/Cold" instead should work fine. Other genres will be tested, since i need to figure out how to properly use Prompts in Udio as well, lets see who is faster, a computer master, or some guys who knows computer good but has 15 years times spended as musician :P
In UDIO it is much more difficult to make a good long composition than in SUNO, but if you try hard, you can achieve simply amazing results. Using my own lyrics, I made several tracks in different styles. And some of them, I dare say, are really good. Alternative rock in the spirit of Skunk Anansie: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-To_ZpgnUaME.html Progressive rock slightly reminiscent of Porcupine Tree: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Coe8J7Q7msQ.html Progressive metal similar to a mixture of Mastodon and Haken: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-wmvs2K3mwkE.html Alternative metal vaguely reminiscent of Tool: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-I1FpXsCPYTw.html Progressive rock in the spirit of Genesis: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-NuCkiDaUykE.html Alternative rock in the style of Alanis Morissette: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-_hZS6l2y39w.html
suno is shit at reggae.... the udio reggae was actully reall good. Udio wins hands down on vocal quality,.. no comparison. Suno always sounds like the voice has serious autotune on it. Udio is a much better writer too... suno lyrics are very basic with generic rhymes... udio lyrics are actually really impressive and creative. Suno definitely produces more polished results with better prompt coherence, tho suno is v3... udio is beta. Both are great imo in their own way... but Suno has some serious competition here. v1 of Udio could really bury Suno unless they really step up their game. V4 needs to be major upgrade to keep up.
Suno has better sounding music, more predictable style and over used production with less quality more robotic glitchy vocals - Udio has 100% better song structure, average sounding music and better quality vocals. Also with Udio you can use playlist as folders for each song as you can create them Suno doesn't have that option.
Has somebody of you guys, crackling and creakings on your Suno creations too? I experienced that in almost every song i created. Cracks and dots within. Horrible. Suno told me 2 weeks ago, they havent notice that. Untill now no change, cracks and creaks in the whole song. Udio dont have it, but Suno is anyway the best choice for me. Iam also disturbt by the 33 seconds sound parts. I cant see any advantage in that.
UDIO SOUNDS MORE LIKE AN ACTUAL MUSICIAN MAKING MUSIC IN THE GENRE OF MUSIC THE ERA STARTED IN SUNO SOUNDS LIKE IT TURNS EVERYTHING INTO A POP VERSION OF THE GENRE IT SELF HAS A MORE GENERIC SOUND LESS CREATIVE THE REASON UDIO IS GETTING ALL THE HYPE IS BECAUSE IT WAS JUST RELEASED AND ITS ALREADY ON PAR WITH SUNO AND WILL ONLY GET BETTER I THINK BY UDIO VERSION 2 YHE QUALITY DIFFERENCE WILL BE UNDENIABLY IN UDIOS FAVOR IF YOUR NOT INTO POP MUSIC BECAUSE SUNO HAS TARGETED THEIR ALGORITHM HEAVILY TOWARDS POP OF ALL GENRES I PERSONALLY LIKE A MORE INDEPENDENT SOUND WHICH UDIO HAS OVER SUNO
Suno is first and Udio is second - shitty quality and that noise is like a trail of hot smely sh... after countless generations. But the vibe is good. But also you may get far better results with Udio if you use the Manual mode and nice prompt (their current "magical prompt" kinda sucks). Besides, Udio's prompt recognition is head superior to Suno's, just their V1 is not as versatile as Suno's V3, yet. I was a Suno subscriber from v3 Beta and dropped it after they downgraded the quality into the abyss on release. P.S. Suno uses that "magic prompt" by default and you cannot turn it off. Or their model is too dumb to follow simple instructions.
Suno has a strong style that makes me feel after listening to one of its songs, I've heard them all. Udio is very unique and you never know what you're gonna get.
I've used both of them in music professional capacity, IMO Suno kicks UDIO's **** every time, for some reason UDIO has trouble creating decent songs, it's more hit and miss.
sorry not trying to comment spam but 11:00 udio sounded like a white band doing reggae but the instrumental was great, Suno sounded like reggaeton(the drum beat) and the vocals were poopoo LMAO! Also I noticed with Udio the music tags are much more specific and quantity, Suno there's usually about 3 max (through this video anyways)
Lmao it’s not just you - reggae is played on the downbeat. In 4/4 time, that would be on the 2 and four (and one and PLAY and three and PLAY). The opposite of the reggae suno created. They created boy band pop
cmon man we wanted to hear relevant genres you cant take out rnb & country just because your "not a fan" theres good songs in every single genre, why limit yourself ?
