I'm a graphic designer and webprogrammer for 20 years. My biggest hobbie is music. My world is actually turned upside down. It's pretty wild to process. Implemented a lot of AI into my workflow, it makes stuff easier now but I know their are so many people that will be affected by this. The biggest thing is that it gives me a huge feeling of disrespect to ... hard to explain ... mankind. It's like washing away all the conciseness, the admiration for real art. I guess you know my I mean. I need stop writing and talk to Chat GPT about my crazy thoughts ... Wish you the best!
I think it feels like that becasue of the initial influx of "garbage content" not becasue AI is bad but more becasue people are literally trying to produce "digital waste" that no one really enjoys. But that's like social media being filled with shiitposters. The quality of the content is dependant on the one producing it.
Give ME a FN Break!!!!!!!!!! ALL the Holier than thoug "Artists"! YOU use sysnthesizers, DAWs. computer generated intruments from guitars to drums and MORE when YOU create your songs! YOU do NOT create songs totally devoid of help from Computers and the AI is just an extension of that. BOTTOM line is that it will mean MORE people can become song writers writing their own lyrics who do not know how to play an instrument or pay for their own band. And for live bands it means they now have an OVER abundance of songs that they can sing live by making deals with the song writers. The Genie is out of the bottle and it cannot be put back in. AI will enhance artists and not kill them!
Coders are becoming obsolete also now. Amazon just laid off hundred of its coders. Ai code generators can produce about the code about 50-75% of the way now and its only getting better every year. We will still always need people to oversee it but far less than before.
@@gyangting we are in a music channel so we are talking about music, i do not want anyone to lose their job, i think machines (long time ago) and now Ai should pay taxes (their owners corp) so we the people who need to eat and all this human things can live and do arts by getting granted a basic income from government paid by these greedy corporations
@@gyangting If you had machines doing things for you ,then there would be no need for money nor jobs. Do you like breaking your back, just so you can pay taxes to the people that do not care bout you?
What will it mean? Only acoustic instruments played in real time by human musicians? What about multitracking? What is "real singing" and where's the line on that - multiple takes, punch-ins, EQ sweetening, autotune? What about synths? Synths with sequencers? Professional recording engineer, or a basement musician using an AI mixing tool? It's not going to be as it was.
No it won't. People couldn't care less how something is made. They will choose the product that best suits their needs regardless of how it's made or who made it.
I started writing songs not long ago and SUNO brought my stories to life. But I am not in any way pretending to be a musician, or an artist. I just don't have the gift and the knowledge that you have. Real musicians are needed, and I am sure that after the initial fad, customers will learn the difference between truly custom and randomly generated. Keep it up man, and please do not give up because that's the only true death of music as we know it. Respect.
I am a musician, and AI is helping me a lot. Now I have an infinite amount of original music to cover and play live, without worrying about copyrights. And instead of singing songs about broken hearts and gangsta rap, I can sing cover songs about whatever I want.
As a game developer I know it won't be long until they do the same with games. Guess I will have to just settle with making what I want to make regardless of AI.
Exactly @lennysmileyface and let me just say that you may even find AI useful to you and help you make what you want to make. There's certain things AI can do that you might not have thought of. You can always use AI to iterate out ideas - and pick out parts you like, and then reproduce and integrate them into your gamem music using your traditional workflow. the most important thing about art and music is that the artist is able to translate their imagination into reality and make what they want to hear or say what they want to say. Whether or not society rewards that with money should have no bearing over what you make - or else you are no longer making your own art - you're simply creating a commodity chosen by market forces which inevitably alienates you from your work and makes you disinterested and not put soul into it. It's better when people make art because they wanted to make it not because it's what someone else is willing to pay for - in that case its not your own art its the customers' art that you're just being directed to make for them.
@@fast_harmonic_psychedelic Yeah I definitely agree. I have a vision for the game I want to make. If it made money it would be nice but if not at least I made something.
agreed i have some same mindset. im interested in doing everything. when i first decided to try to learn how to use google colab it was surprising going from thinking i would never be able to program anything to knowing python just because i was forced to learn it in order to train a marxist GPT-2. then dalle and clip came out and some early art generators and i just adapted to it so fast.. at this point i feel like I can do anything. Any problem i have or code i dont know how to write i can just ask bing or chatgpt to write that part of the code and it always works. nothing is out of my reach. Soon I'm going to figure out how to get AI to control the python terminal in blender and see what it can do.. Im also making psytrance by hand in the daw, making animated psychedelic music videos that react to the psytrance, and also making AI music singing About me making music videos and making psytrance lol. or making ai music about the pharmacy i go to being super reliable and fast - at the red light on my way to the pharmacy, then showing the pharmacist the song when i got there and her telling me to send it to her and gave me her personal number lol.. Its not a threat to me -- its just fun and usually funny to make. I have no illusions that i can somehow monetize AI music. Why should i make money on something i put no effort or time into? The way i see it- AI music should not be commercialized, people should just make AI music to make the music - not to get some cash reward .. i just enjoy hearing the music that didnt exist.. I wanted a song that sang by two singers male and female, the female in english the male in russian, both are hypersonic missiles in a love affair , she loves him but he explains that his trajectory is set in stone and cannot be altered. she says his hypersonic speed is her creed. Lol This would NEVER EXIST if i didnt create it with AI but now it does exist and some day someone will find it as funny as i do, and we'll listen to it while hanging out and have laughs over it .. What else is there besides moments like this lol.. what is this "industry" and "careers" i hear so much about - sounds like a real dream lol. The comments in this video look like true happiness lol... Capitalism destroys everything good but you dont need to slave art to the service of capitalism, instead you should slave capitalism to the service of art like I do :P @@lennysmileyface
Agreed, I share a similar mindset. I’m interested in doing everything. When I first decided to learn how to use Google Colab, it was surprising to go from thinking I would never be able to program anything to knowing Python, just because I was forced to learn it to train a Marxist GPT-2. Then DALL-E and CLIP came out, along with some early art generators, and I adapted to them so fast. At this point, I feel like I can do anything. Any problem I have or code I don’t know how to write, I can just ask Bing or ChatGPT to write that part of the code, and it always works. Nothing is out of my reach. Soon, I’m going to figure out how to get AI to control the Python terminal in Blender and see what it can do. I’m also making psytrance by hand in the DAW, creating animated psychedelic music videos using AI that react to the psytrance and create something like a dmt trip, and even making AI music singing about me making music videos and making psytrance. like all of this is just because it was cool and i wanted to make it and do it my way. Or making AI music about the pharmacy I go to being super reliable and fast - at the red light on my way to the pharmacy, then showing the pharmacist the song when I got there, and her telling me to send it to her and giving me her personal number. It’s not a threat to me-it’s just fun and usually funny to make. I have no illusions that I can somehow monetize AI music. Why should I make money on something I put no effort or time into? The way I see it, AI music should not be commercialized; people should just make AI music for the sake of the music, not to get some cash reward. I just enjoy hearing the music that didn’t exist before. I wanted a song sung by two singers, male and female, the female in English, the male in Russian, both are hypersonic missiles in a love affair. She loves him, but he explains that his trajectory is set in stone and cannot be altered. She says his hypersonic speed is her creed. This would NEVER EXIST if I didn’t create it with AI, but now it does exist, and someday someone will find it as amusing as I do, and we’ll listen to it while hanging out and have a good time over it. What else is there besides moments like this? What is this “industry” and “careers” I hear so much about - sounds like a real dream. The comments in this video look like true happiness… Capitalism destroys everything good, but you don’t need to enslave art to the service of capitalism; instead, you should enslave capitalism to the service of art, like I do. 😄
Hello Paul, thank you very much for this video. In my opinion, the chord progressions and arrangements created by SUNO and UDIO are already far above the level of many, many amateur home recording colleagues, including the semi-professionals. There is a sell-off of the last bit of creativity going on. It may be a "great toy" for everyone, even for my six-year-old granddaughter, for example, but the situation for music producers is likely to get worse in the future. I think it is increasingly unlikely that you will be able to earn a fair living with your own music at some point. For those who only do it as a hobby anyway and whose songs more or less just end up in a drawer, it doesn't really matter. Whether they continue to put together their own songs or just press a button and have complete songs created automatically is actually completely irrelevant. Conclusion: total sell-off of music, for just a few cents per song.
"Whether they continue to put together their own songs or just press a button and have complete songs created automatically is actually completely irrelevant." It may be irrelevant for you, but certainly not for them. There are people who don't see art purely as a business.
As a hobbyist music producer I still see great value and joy in making music. Nobody cares about my tracks and likely never will, but I enjoy creating way more than just pressing a button That said, try creating something specific. I actually just spent about an hour with Suno and made several great options. But you can use it creatively: eg find the right genre, find good lyrics (create your own), make sketches. I can actually see it as a great sketchpad before committing to a song and doing exactly what you want manually. It would be interesting if Ableton for example had it integrated and was producing actual tracks with full plugin settings and later allowing to tweak. That would be next level. Perhaps they are working on it :)
@@arseniharkunou5905 tools will become available with these services for professionals to output stems, upload their own content and vocals to 'transform'. Probably at extra cost. Nothing is free in life and expecting to hold a music career indefinitely is delusional.
Yeah I feel like a vacation I have been on an emotional roller coaster for a little while it feels like I have a difficult to understand emotion with AI I love how interesting and mind-blowing this technology is but I feel like it hits my ego kind of makes me feel useless I know I'm going to still create music because I love creating music it's just I won't have it as a job probably anymore hopefully I start getting a universal paycheck and that means we all get paid vacation and then we get to do whatever we want in our free time which I'm still going to make music and ambience and I'm still going to make films and other projects I don't think AI is going to change my objectives it might make my goals easier to achieve as well maybe we'll even have human-based platforms and museums and art appreciation for human art and it will all be funded by AI
If only. It's back to regular jobs for us all, making some asshole boss or capitalist rich. After all, in their eyes, that's what humans are there for.
Thank you for making a real video. There's so many people who are lying to themselves saying that this is somehow going to be great for music, they're delusional because they can't accept the reality.
Part of this relentless boosterism comes from the fact that AI is probably the only part fo the stock market that isn't spiralling into financial oblivion.
Should making music be limited to only people who can physically make sounds on an instrument and those who understand music theory? Because AI has given the layperson the ability to write and create songs. Truly talented artist and songwriters will always be more popular than AI, but now music is accessible to everyone. I have a hard time seeing why that is bad.
@@TheTacticalBat You telling just nonsence. If you want produce music, you need give it time and hard work. You also need have inner feeling that you express into final product - a song. But you simply isnt able to transform inner feeling or even hearing whole song inside in you.. with cheap text prompt. This concept of being prompt artist is just satanic illusion that controls you. Yes after you hear that prompt transformed into some random song, you brain will give you lot of dopamine bursts so you will feel like god. Avoid such cheap illusion and try to live true life.
First ChatGPT came for the copywriters, and I did not speak out- Because I was not a copywriter. Then MidJourney came for the graphic designers, and I did not speak out- Because I was not a graphic designer. Then Udio came for the musicians, and I did not speak out- Because I was not a musician. Then AI came for me-and there was no one left to speak for me.
Want a sci-fi about the shit that'll happen when GenAI gets our brainwaves? Check out my novel Above Dark Waters. I played with it and it was scary (Some examples on my channel). It was the first time something was 'catchy'. MJ was cool, and ChatGPT kind of bland, but the songs here caught a share of my mind.
You mean, into video generative AI software that is already in developement and will pop out within weeks/months. AI will soon (very, very soon) replace EVERY single creative aspect of humanity. We're talking about 8bn plumbers, picker-packers and bus drivers because we will end up exclusively with physical jobs available.
It will still take talented human minds to choose the best of the AI clip generations and put them together properly. If nobody is trained to play an instrument at an early age or trained in music theory, these minds will not exist.
Make better movies? If people can make a more intersting film in a few minutes on their laptop, then I'd rather watch that. Don't hate the player, hate the game.
100% agree with you. Artists, composers, producers, all of us who dedicate ourselves to art, are literally dead (professionally and economically speaking). And in reality, the fault is not the AI, it is society itself that does not care about the artists, it only wants the product, fast, simple and cheap. We are facing the chronicle of a death foretold. Sorry for my English. Greetings from Spain.
We are fine in my opinion. People can adapt to technology. Orchestral music became less productive when computers took over music, but music itself didn't die. We made a new art form
@@razorgarf Like most, you haven't recalibrated your futurizing neurons for the age of AI. Crank the "exponentially" knob up a level or two, and you'll hit the correct two to three months prediction
Thank you for this. I can't tell you how powerfully this hit me. I am a retired software engineer (not AI) and a lifelong violin and guitar player. And recently mandolin. I have enjoyed recording with DAW's for many years, including a lot of work with both external and plugin synthesizers. I had been thinking of re-tooling up and looking to make a modest supplement to my income as a producer via mostly digital tools. I agree, this is now out the window. I may still play in the digital recording world, but I will spend most or my time playing instruments in various groups, sometimes in a show situation. but mostly amateur -- in the original sense of the word -- jams with friends. Passion is still there, but any idea of financial reward is now reckoned out. Listening to you felt like listening to part of my own brain, so thanks again and good luck.
Ça change rien pour les artistes de talent si ils sont capables de reproduire sur scène avec des musiciens parce que de nos jours les maisons disques vous signent plus vous laisse seul à tout faire un studio d'enregistrement ça coûte minimum 100000€ Et une heure d'enregistrement c'est 50 € ,................... Pour finir un morceau il faut plusieurs jours .......
Thank you mate for putting this out ! I just made a comment on another channel that was promoting A.I. generated music and they stopped the comments and even specifically mentioned that they stopped them due to my input and feelings about this garbage ! So, thank you brother ! We all need to ban together as Artists and find a way to keep this out of our industry. Although, it's probably never going to stop the ones with no imagination, or talent. 😔 Also, with all of the fuss about certain bands, or musicians using backing tracks, or lip syncing, where careers were ruined... now I have to wonder, how would they feel about this ? Man... this is so terrible, not to mention what other industries they will crossover to. This is insanity ! I am with you 110% brother !!!
Is it going to replace my lovely park walks , is it going to replace my amazing swim moments , is it going to replace my taste for the best food ? Is it going to replace my joy to see a live band at a festival ? Is it going to replace my quality time with my loved ones ? How exactly is AI gonna replace all that in my live ? I guess it is not ! Not at all !
21:15 Where are the protests? Illustrators and photographers have been protesting since 2022, there's a class action lawsuit going on that has FINALLY been greenlit despite stability and midjourney pleading for dismissal, the data poisoning tools are being developed as well as detection tools to recognize AI generated imagery. The problem though is that this whole time everyone's been ignoring this issue and happily supporting Midjourney and the likes of it because suddenly they were able to get album covers, book covers, t-shirts designs etc for the price of cheap sibscription. Some would say the time to protest has already passed, people have voted with their wallets directly supporting companies that are now developing AIs to replace them. Meanwhile, I'm trying to stay optimistic and seeing more and more groups of people being impacted by this I'm hoping we'll collectively start rejecting anything that was made with generative AI making it unprofitable for anyone to release products made with AI so that human creation and art can continue to thrive. PS. I feel like we illustrators were at the same place that musicians are today two years ago when Midjourney dropped. So yeah, two years and I'm proud to let you know that many of us are still working. I'm still drawing full-time, I even began experiencing an interest in my traditional drawings. Sure, some people lost clients, but I'm hearing of plenty of artists getting even more jobs because clients are starting to look for something that "doesn't look so much AI-ish". So perhaps it's not all doom and gloom, I think this mainly impacts the stock markets where you don't need anything specific or unique. PS2. Greetings from Warsaw :)
I’ve been saying this for years now & posted about it. People are only starting to understand it now more. I’m a multi-instrumentalist, composer/producer, pro artist dj, general designer, artist, 3D modelling etc. Since lockdowns etc my work & gigs has been in trouble & now it’s just f**ked while I’ve been on benefits unable to get work. My Music Library work I’ve been doing for many years also f**ked! This is people’s heart & soul, it effects their mental health! Nice Chomsky quote later in the video bro. I’m starting a campaign to raise awareness, also I will be trying to arrange a appointment with a member of parliament(MP) to discuss all this serious concerns! It’s OUR LIFE AND OUR JOBS! Gonna be the ghost of Frank Zappa fighting against this bs as best I can even if I think it’s a lost cause! Too many idiots out there that will be using this already & other A.I art platforms! F**k all this shit man! You’ve said a lot of things I say! No one protests but everyone else does! No one cares about the arts in general! Very sad! 60% of jobs will not be safe from A.I & Humanoids by next year! The matrix literally awakened already the past few years! We are under attack in so many ways in life! Kurwa mac! There are also some pop artists trying to take legal action for copyrights. Anyway I understand & relate with your frustrations with it all as I deal with it too. Things not looking good with the WHO Worldwide Pandemic Treaty, the push of H5N1 virus again & possible G5 Geomagnetic storm forecasted for 2025 which could cause grid system failure with blackout. Lawlessness implemented in the cities & organised chaos. It’s just so f**ked! Orwell’s hell! Rage against this sh*tty machine! This is the industrialisation of the cyber world! Their NWO!
Thanks for the reply, I meant to say I agree with everything you wrote and I think you made a compelling case however the second last paragraph substantially dilutes your argument by tying it to other problems I feel unnecessarily.
@@miezeken hey man, yes sure I can see where you would see that but that’s ultimately the point. I’m torn between wanting to take action but understand also the other impending dooms we face as a people more then just A.I threat and our lives/jobs. It’s quite a layered cake of issues up head, the WHO global pandemic treaty, H5N1 avian variant being pushed again currently or Disease X talks, the forecast for a super solar flare(G5) by 2025 which could cause grid system failure, cyber slavery, Great Depression part 2 etc. hope that puts it into focus man 🤜🏽🤛🏽
Thank you for this video! I get so mad when friends of mine express EXCITEMENT over AI art/music etc without NOT IN THE SLIGHTEST reflecting on the labor exploitation CORE of the issue here! So frustrating! I try to calmly educate those folks but their eyes glaze over when I quote Marx and try to connect Manchester capitalism with this new digital version. And you are spot on about collective organizing: we are totally EFFED coz online freelance artists (except for Hollywood screenwriters where we should look for strategic guidance) are NOT organized!
addendum after I watched your summary and since you are Polish and have a literature background? PLEASE pick up the Polish translation of "Infinite Jest" = it is BEAUTIFUL and despite the dire subject matter of entertainment addiction it still gives me hope for the future of humanity and art and expression :)
one more = WHERE IS THE REVOLUTION? Very good question because AI (or rather the companies that own the tech) is colonizing our minds nonstop and killing our humanity! I am not even convinced that people will realize what they are missing and compensate by making music and art for personal growth and meditation and reflection. For most people caught up in the capitalist hamsterwheel they don't even have the time and the energy. They will resort to even more simple CONSUMING stuff that gets delivered in HIGHSPEED with a couple of clicks :(
A great song will always be a great song!! If AI is actually lucky enough to create a great song, that actually resonates with the human heart and soul --it will be just that, PURE LUCK!! This is a great entertainment and a lot of fun, but the next step is actually to create DAW's and other workflow machines that take our chord progressions, words , and aspirations to new human heights. Humans write for humans---some will consume this "fast food" but most ears will hunger for the REAL thing. Just my humble opinion. Cheers to ALL the human creators out there!! Long live human endeavor!!!
Authenticity is dying. Everything is becoming a cheap imitation. Soon I will have a replicant for a wife, listening to AI music, eating a lab grown burger.
it's unstoppable, every job, no matter whether musician, artist, doctor, police, scholar, accountant or programmer, everyone will be replaced by AI. In other words, everyone on this planet will lose their job, or at least their current job sooner or later. That's not a problem of AI or technology, it's a problem of capitalism and social policies.
Although capitalism has its downsides (Human Greed) it also bought the price of guitars and music equipment down through mass production and private enterprise. The pop music industry from rock to hip hop was not birthed under communist regimes and it’s improbable that it ever could.
y'all need to quit fuckin doom saying... literally nothing an AI can do with music is going to be better than one a human can do, they simply don't have the means. Not to mention AI in it's current form is wildly unsustainable, it's gonna slow down and eventually not even be worried about
I feel your pain. The only way for pros like you forward is to learn to use this stuff as a tool, as your experience will have you be ahead of others. The only thing that will not die soon are live concerts. And you are right - business people will just look for lowering costs, they might even do things themselves now. They do not care for your bread in the basket.
I completely disagree, it is one of the best tools in history, and it will make a million things easier for everyone. Oh and it's something that's not going to stop, so either you adapt or you get angry at the world for something you can't control. The technology is incredible and fascinating, what is being achieved is historic, and it will benefit humanity, it is already doing so. As soon as you start to see what has happened throughout history, it has always been the same, when the camera was created the realism painters thought they were running out of work, however there have never been more realism painters in the world that today, and thanks to TECHNOLOGY, they can become known throughout the world without having to have money, all that is required is talent. If an AI can replace what you do, what you do probably isn't that unique. The music that I have made (mostly hip hop beats) can be made perfectly by an AI, I did not try to revolutionize anything or create anything new, and that inspires me to start breaking the barriers of what I did, of the standard, and innovate by about what exists. This is an incredible opportunity.
I think so too. I also think soon it will be obvious what is AI and what is not. It’s just a hype for a while and it’ll go back to the background and being used as a tool. Which it is
I feel like all music makers should band together, make a joint fund and withdraw all human made music behind a paywall. They can all get fucked with their AI machines. No computer is bigger than the Source of our creativity. This was a super satisfying video to watch - thanks for making it!
Did drummers stop playing drums when drum machine was invented? Do people pay to see two computers play chess?People are in team Human and will always prefer human made over computer made. Perfect is boring. If AI makes those producers to stop making music who make it only for money, then i think there is nothing wrong with it. Rest of us continues as always. Peace!
@@digidope The drum machines didn't replace drummers argument is a crass and silly, since all drum machines did is provide another tool for musicians to create a rhythm track. As such, a whole new aesthetic was created that while, it intersected with previous forms, could never adequately replace them. Also, one needs skill to use a drum machine to the degree that someone like Aphex Twin would. AI doesn't just replace a part of music production/creation, it takes over the whole process and does away with the need for skilled practioners of the craft entirely. This is completely different to replacing or in some cases augmenting a certain part of a piece using technology.
@@patrick5301 what were the big words he used? Invented? Or was it Prefer? I keep reading his short paragraph and I cannot fathom which word you could've possibly defined as "big". Oh shit... did I just use a big word?
The music industry has been doing this for decades. They get all the money from the musicians work and creativity while the artist receives peanuts. So same story different decade.
indeed its just the final step, more obvious, of the same thing, and it won't kill music, art, creativity, it will just help to see the real artists shining among an ocean of automated mass-quick-consumption content!
The difference is that the music industry cannot copyright AI generated music, thus you can use it for any purpose without worry. The issue is that the music industry may generate AI music and NOT tell the public that it is AI generated, then sue YOU for using that AI generated music under these false pretenses....
@@THE_HMRC The first point you made is one of the most important in all of this debate. Say AI comes up with a "hit". Then everyone and their brother can remix, re-publish, perform as, make memes from, etc etc. AI art becomes part of the community common and enriches us all. As to the second part, there must be some kind of semi-obfuscated watermarking required for the use of these tools. That will surely come and these companies already know how to do that and some are advocating for it, as they must and some have already, ethically. And even if that didn't happen, onus is on them to prove they didn't use AI to produce the track. I guess they could hire actors to pose as the artist in question in court - then it becomes very fun to cross-examine their methods and level of talent. 🧠 think on, amigos.
Life will definitely be more convenient with AI. Live music will not be replaced by AI anytime soon. So musicians will be doing exactly what they’re doing.
@@e.and.f I'm studying electric guitar. For me, AI is great only about vst amp plugins, because is cheap than buy all good real amps, cabinets and pedals.
They can take all the shortcuts they want, from what I learned with 20+ years of musicology is that they always get exposed at some point and fall. Sure it’s gonna shake the actual shit show that is the popish music industry lately, but even for compagnies that are gonna use it people are gonna feel it and slowly stop caring. Music has always been circling, I’d argue that the human side of things is gonna come back stronger than before at some point. Another thing for sure we ve been seeing the effect of boycotts lately, latest exemple is the dumb move of waves that nearly cost them everything, lots of us won’t even care for products that are related to this. The scenarists are already struggling for a couple of years because of ia, especially for streaming platforms the result? A desert of lame cinematography that is costing them billions, I mean last year has to be the worst in terms of cinematographic excitement. But nothing surprising there, I’m a composer and I already knew 10years ago that it was collapsing, they use premade patterns in movies for years now, which means composers have really narrow corridor to navigate mark my words it will circle back to experience and human touch. As for the masses that will be caught in the robotic brain dead agenda of the big corporations it is what it is, but if you expected to make money from this crowd it was on you to begin with and I mean no disrespect we are all learning here. I don’t know what you maestros will do, but for me? I’m gonna keep one hand on the ai train and the other on learning as many skills as I possibly can I wish you guys the best from the bottom of my heart cause I know it’s gonna be a rough ride but if we communicate and stick together we ll create our own network, bakers or traders that will suddenly decide to pretend to be a pop star thanks to suno or whatever will be a little joke on the side cheers 🍻
Great video. The impact on musicians will be huge but what about on the music industry in a whole. With this I mean the software developers of plugins, synths (hard and software). If the musicians earn less money they have less money to spend on musical equipment. Do we see less companies or will there be plugins developed by AI?
Not only stock music. When artists aren't creating as much music, the instrument manufacturers are going to slowly scale back producing new hardware instruments, as well as vsts. Demand will go down. Unfortunately the general public ear doesn't care if it's AI they're listening to or a human.
@@patrick5301 The companies investing in these solutions will do everithing in their power to make it as inconvenient as possible to listen to human made music. Just like streaming and before digital downloads slowly killed album sales, AI Music will kill human made music because humans want things fast, cheap and convenient and companies with huge budgeds are standing at the gates ready to offer these solutions.
Native instruments pianos taking 250Gb disk space for all the piano samples is not the peak of technology though. Pianoteq is more advanced in a way, but even they haven't gone for machine learning yet.
I've been using Suno and I'm so impressed by what I can come up with in a short amount of time...the power I have to produce quite decent sound for projects I have in mind..it's like I'm in a candy store. That being said, I do also see where you are coming from and very much understand your point.
the massive attack stlye music sounds nothing like massive attack nor trip hop in general, it has far too uplifting tone to it. Scary developments nonetheless.
What’s gonna happen is that performing artists are gonna get paid more. Real artist will be paid more. Music is still an art form we’re humans express themselves creatively. Who maybe hurt will be engineers and some genres of music. We’ll see how this happens. I am happy I am singer and producer and I try to mix my songs as best as I can. We’re all are gonna have to step up lyrically and musically. The unorthodox will be the style that gets all the attention. Now I see why the Screen Actors Guild went on strike as a part to stop them from using AI to write scripts for movies. This is sad
No cause there will be more musician's competing for those live gigs pushing the price down. In the world of AI branding is everything, maybe you can sell a t-shirt
TL;DR - The cream will rise to the top. People that can write music but can't sing can now create music. Came from a generational musical family from Motown. I've seen things come, go and stay. Live sessions musicians, synthesized sounds, auto-tune, then fruity loops. It's okay. Music isn't everyone's thing. It takes me at least 3 hours to make a good song with Suno or Udio. It takes me less than that in a studio.
@@reno419rockstar I spend a couple of days in Udio churning out tracks attempting to guide it towards full length songs. Right now it is so unpredictable it is hard work to get any output that fits my ideal of how the song should progress (from beginning to end). I kinda gave up. It is very unfriendly towards those who want more creative control over it's paramaters and output. Hopefully that will improve with time though. I want to be able to output stems, upload my own works to 'transform'. Use my own vocals etc.
@@Mopantsu The things you want will all happen, probably sooner than you think, and hopefully there will be GPU based tools that run locally too. The people who stand to lose the most from new AI music tools like suno and udio aren't the composers, they're companies like Reason Studios, Ableton and Image line. Those companies will be forced to adapt or die, much like how Adobe was forced to add AI powered autofill to photoshop, or be left in the dust by image generators. Right now these web services are just toys, but t hey are very nice toys, and very solid proof of concept for a better suite of actual tools. It's really only just beginning.
As an author, I understand the challenge of increasing competition. But just as writers continue despite the influx of new books, musicians must also adapt. Many people don't want to create-they want to consume. Readers read, listeners listen, and viewers watch. Now, there’s more content than ever, and entertainment's rapid pace has caught up with musicians. This isn't new. Other industries have faced similar disruptions, often aided by AI. Musicians have benefited from these changes, even as other jobs were lost. The key is adapting, just as those before you did by utilizing new technologies. Real artists will always be in demand, especially for live performances. AI-generated music, which cannot be copyrighted, offers new opportunities. Artists can cover and publish more content without legal issues. The need for traditional setups-bands, studios, producers-diminishes. This evolution raises the question: what are we losing versus what are we gaining? For me as a writer, AI means more competition. But competition isn't new; it’s a constant for indie authors and small bands alike. What's exciting is the ability to create books, images, and music with minimal experience in these other fields. AI empowers us to produce and market our work affordably, expanding our creative reach. Consumers benefit from this explosion of creativity, gaining more choices in entertainment. While anyone can create with AI, the demand for genuine artistry remains. Live performances, in particular, gain value. Artists can use AI to enhance their work, breaking through previous limitations. Personally, I’ve used AI to write lyrics, produce music, and create visuals for my characters-things that were financially out of reach before. AI tools have enabled me to bring my artistic vision to life affordably. This accessibility has opened doors for many who couldn’t afford traditional artistic resources. AI-created images using tools like MidJourney offer unique character depictions that aren’t possible with stock photos or hired models. This exclusivity was unattainable before AI. I empathize with the challenges artists face today. Accept the reality and use AI to your advantage. There's always a new niche waiting to be discovered. Embrace AI to enhance your artistry and outperform the competition. Adapt and thrive, as creatives have done with every technological advancement. Let's seize this opportunity and evolve together.
Well put, I agree. Live performances is where the money in the music industry is going to go. Ai can't stage dove into a crowd or cry during a moving performance. That's where the artistry of music will live on forever.
I've been experimenting with Udio this weekend, and it has been mind blowing. The stuff you can do, the basic quality of the output... It's insane. Of course, there are still artefacts and it still has a tendency to hallucinate a lot. But in my sessions, it also surprised me multiple times. I don't know what's gonna happen next, but it feels like we're at the very brink of something BIG. For better or worse.
Let's think about this for a moment, a musician comes along and writes a new song and that song has a fresh and different style, so a new genre is born. This genre takes off say like house or techno did, next thing you know 1000's of other musicians are writing tracks using similar sounds and beats. Are these musicians plagiarising the guy that came up with the new genre? Just to be clear, I run a small recording studio and write my own music in my down time. If AI and the androids to come that it will be installed in are writing tracks for commercials, corporate video's etc it will leave the real musicians time to write what they want. I know that I would be much happier writing my own personal tracks than composing some cheesy track for a pizza commercial. While AI is proving that it can do more and more things a human can let's not forget it will also be cleaning toilets , working down a mine shaft, emptying our garbage bins and waiting on us hand and foot. So ultimately we will have more time to do what we enjoy, yes it will take a lot of jobs but the decision making and the main creativity will be left to humans and we will have more time for these activities. If I load up Chat GPT on my computer and stare at it for a week it will do absolutely nothing, but if I give it the right prompt or ask it the right question it can do wonders. The only problem I see with it is the fact that it can be abused by the wrong people and this is what really needs to be regulated and prevented by incorporating the appropriate safety measures within the software. Man was never meant to fly....... Just saying. It's another tool to speed up productivity, I have played with these music models myself and they have impressed the hell out of me as to how good they sound BUT generate 10 or 20 songs using the same prompt and you will start to hear a mass produced flavor to the songs, most of the good tracks that make it to the charts have something unique about them that makes them interesting. Yes there are some that just ride a wave of the genre but if that is what some people want to listen to that's fine too. As mentioned, drum machines and synthesisers were considered evil by traditional musicians back in the late 70's and beyond, now they are totally acceptable when writing and recording tracks. It's an interesting time with the introduction of AI at the moment and one that I know will go down in history as a major turning point in our development as a species. I embrace it and look forward to the things that are to come, both musical and otherwise. I hope you got value out of my 2 cents worth and no this was not an AI generated response 🙂 Write something new and interesting and they will listen to it!
I’m old as dirt and have a hard time listening to a lot of modern music because almost every track reminds me of something I listened to 20-30 years ago. Let’s see if AI can create a new CCR or Bob Dylan .
if non-AI music stops then the development of music also ends pretty soon, when you feedback the AI generated music into the AI, the algorithms will start to breakdown as they become increasingly generic... I guess they will try to compensate for that through randomisation and some sort of threshold values... but it will go round and round on itself forever... if they aren't able to tell which music was AI generated or 'pre-AI' then they may have some historical cut-off point and choose to ignore new music after a certain date, that could then exclude 'real music' from getting fed into the algorithms in the future... we're in for an interesting ride. But generally, I think you are correct, simply because so much generic music will be generated now, that it will swamp the internet it's going to be really tough for human producers unless they are also performing as a live act.
But why should non-AI music disappear? Even in the worst-case scenario, when all the crooks who make 'art' for money stop doing it, there will still be real artists who create for self-expression.
Exactly, the AI algorithms will become so censored and diluted, all AI music will begin to sound like a hybrid soup of Bach, Abba, and Taylor Swift. Happy little pop songs with subliminal messages. Meanwhile, I'll summon the spirits with an organic broth of horrorscope deepcreep psytrance
I appreciate your video. A lot of great points came to be in this video. I see your opinion is very valid. I wonder what they'll do once they create music and need to do live shows are they going to go back to the Milli Vanilli stages of time?
Demand your AI Dividend! I think we need to start organizing a movement around that, because we cannot stop it, and I can't think of any other way to adapt to the implications of AI. AI exists thanks to year of data and content, collected from all of us, which goes into training it. And it won't be long before it's out competing more than just creatives. Our whole economy will need to change, as I don't think capitalism, at least in it's current form, is in any way compatible with what we soon face. A majority of people aren't going to be able to compete against AI, so we can no longer use jobs as the thing which determines how we distribute basic resources to people. In some way, profits from AI needs to be taxed and that should be distributed to everyone as an AI Dividend!
It's not. This is why people are vouching for UBI at least for now (at least people who don't erroneously associate the idea to a utopia, which I mean... that's just depressing). Because jobs don't make sense anymore as means to acquire the middle man made up exchange for tangible useable goods like food, water, shelter, medicine, mental stimulation and entertainment. The world isn't ready for this. It was never going to be. It sucks to know the harder people fight it, the more people will get hurt because governments aren't ready for this, they're still behind on internet being a thing. Our world economic model is capitalism. Doesn't matter what personal model a country uses, the exchange between countries for goods is capitalism. Working is a thing because jobs need to be done and people need to make money. If the jobs are being done and people aren't making money because the jobs are all done, then we need an intermediary to make sure economy doesn't collapse and people don't die more than they already do. Honestly, the whole middle man exchange of a currency isn't that useful anymore. Especially because it actually leads to more greed and waste. If I could just go to a store that houses what I need or have it delivered, I'll get what I need, because I don't have to manage another resource. I won't need a sale, I'll just get the physical amount I require and leave the rest. I wouldn't panic stock or be concerned about management. Also, the amount produced in order to cover this would be lower. This whole first come first serve, first to claim system isn't viable long term, not even for the winner.
If you write the lyrics, you are classified as a composer and, by law, are entitled to 50% of the music royalties. But thanks to AI, you can now do the musical work too (the beat) and get the remaining 50% of the royalties. This ends all the arguments some people are making that by using AI to create music, you are not an artist or creator. Those few lines of text you put on a notepad are all you need to entitle yourself an artist, even though AI creates all sounds, including the vocals. In addition, you are also writing the AI prompts, which adds even more of your influence to the final output. It's as if you hired a musician to do the beat, and he has to follow your instructions. In that case, you would have to pay him between 25% and 50% of the royalties depending on if he's also doing the arrangement, mixing, mastering, etc, but since your musician is the AI, you just pay the subscription to use the AI tool and to keep 100% of the royalties to yourself, you just have to make the arrangement and mastering yourself, which is relatively easy to do with any DAW and a mastering plugin such as Ozone 11. Got it?
So I spent a lot of time with both Udio and Suno and my current conclusion is that they are great and fun entertainment tools, but still a far cry from replacing actual art and artists. They'll probably get there but as it stands they are just audio toys.
He covered that. Look at the progress from the last generation within the last year or two. It will continue to get better. It's already very close to "real" music to the untrained ear.
@@runvnc208 I see what you mean and I agree. It's a really fun tool that can put out catchy stuff. However, when it comes to competing with actual musicians and singers, it's a matter of how customizable or rather 'controllable' it is. These bots aren't doing hot in that front. In fact, I believe the reason their output is this good is because AI has almost full creative control over the process. That's why the results are quite random no matter how good you get at prompting. To get there, they will need another technical leap, as well as overcoming some legal battles. They could and probably will get in time though.
"a far cry from replacing actual art and artists." I'm not sure. It's hard to replace Prince, Stevie Wonder or Radiohead, but 90% of the music on the radio is mediocre music with artists who cant sing using autotune, music made on DAW (computer). For example the "BBL Drizzy" beat is made from a sample from an AI motown style song, it's allmover the internet and people love it. This stuff as been around for barely few month, in 2 years it's over. You can have an Adele, Bruce Springsteen, Michael Bubble AI song as good as the original (with an artist that will never die or loose his voice, scary)
The problem is y'all always forget the exponential nature of AI. If you keep throwing more compute cycles and feed it a bigger dataset the model of Udio or Suno keeps getting better and better with each training iteration. Like the trajectory is pretty much settled. AI right now is pretty much solved and right now the scaling of making the model better is not a fundamental math problem but an engineering problem. And engineering problem can be easily fixed by having capital
What might help is if the AI developers made the AI to output Chord symbols with the lyrics and MIDI tracks along with the MP3's so that one could use the AI to get a first cut and then edit the MIDI to personalize it much the same way that many use ChatGPT to write a first draft.
@@RonLWilson then play the rest by ear lol 😂. this is where being a good producer comes in. or use melodyne to get the midi of the audio file. or scalar
Anyone who thinks we are screwed oviously overreacted before thinking of COPYRIGHT LAWS. I myself have done MANY copyrights as well as USPTO trademarks over the past 15 years. If anyone thought about the copyrights of AI materials here in the US, they would know that NO copyrights are possible UNLESS the resulting AI-made product has been touched by a human hand. This goes for image generation as well. I think it is time to BREATHE and think of how this will make the music industry BETTER. For starters, Hip-Hop is absolutely horrible today, but I know the heart of it was originally SAMPLING, which kind of slowed down a lot, due to lawsuits. This has the power to allow the sound to be changed there without anyone actual records being involved. That also means that artists and producers in that industry need to get creative. How about the new guy just starting out on the guitar? He can generate tracks to play to as he defines his style. I still think that people are still going to be producers and people are still going to play their instruments. It would be horrible to think that concerts would stop being a thing and people will just be cheering for the DJ who just hits play on a bunch of AI music at a music fest. By the end of the day, I still think we will still support REAL artists, but I also think that those who afraid of the tech will be the ones left behind.
This is the new music revolution all over again, now the public can make/create their own music without being forced by the radio and labels. It's a new golden age where we can forge our own music for the better.
Not only is it plagiarism... With only minor changes to avoid direct copyright violation.... But it's cheapens and art that takes years, blood sweat and tears to cultivate. It's pretty f***** up! I whole heartedly agree with you.
I think music is just going to evolve. When music went digital, classical music evolved into jazz and jazz evolved into pop and rock. So no more I IV VI V progressions and new styles will need to emerge.
Purpose of art is to you evolve into more advanced artist and not cutting the angles. How you became master if everything is done by you just click your mouse? Feeling, listening, imagining and everything is gonna be fd up. We gonna be caveman again.
This was both fascinating, and scary at the same time. The moment that AI took over the arts (music, painting, poetry, photography, etc), we lost our humanity. 😢
@@axonathan Is it though? Based on sampling of some of the recent AI tools out there, it’s not hyperbole at all in my opinion. Everything he mentioned is factually true.
At some point there will be riots. Social unrest, people on the street, etc. This will probably not help much, but this is when you will know that our lifes are never going to be the same. We will switch to different things. We will have completely new materials on our disposal. We will be more directed towards other people. We will regain connection that we have lost within the last 20 years. We are disconnected from one another. Social media will not replace direct interactions. We will be working on other things than we are working on right now. But one thing will not change. There always will be that person with an instrument, sitting with other people and making their life better. I can not see how this is going to change. We have had our chance to have our 5 minutes on a global stage, but those 5 minutes came to an end. Unfortunately. Sure, some people will still be doing music and others will be listening to it. But not on a current scale. This could have been predicted. More and more people were gaining access to advanced music tools. The better tools of this kind we had, the more automated the whole process could become. However we did not expect to suddenly face a tool that only requires us to provide a title or a story... but it happened.
I’m an illustrator. Midjourney came for me last year and took several jobs out from under me and everyone told me, “adapt”. We’re all meant to scrub toilets while the machines do all our creative and leisure activities.
WHAT DO YOU THINK THE MILLIONS OF MACHINIST CRATSMEN MECHANICS WENT THROUGH OVER LAST 40 YEARS HERE AND THIS GUY WANTS PITY BECAUSE NOW THE MACHINE HAS CIME FOR MEDIOCRE TUNE DIDDLERS WHAT WHY DO YOU THINK THE RUST BELT IS IN THE MIDWEST IF YOU THINK THIS GUY WHINES WAIT TILL WE NO LONGER NEED THE LAWYERS
I am a music hobbyist and a beginner, but its still very demotivating knowing, that everything that I am learning right now and I am spending huge amount of my free time doing so, is getting less and less valuable because I can already generate better tracks then I am able to make. I am graphic designer by proffesion though and the exact same is happening in that field. Basically every damn creative thing is endangered because of that. Weird times.
Karma is happening, the coders that created this abomination are themselves being replaced by AI as we speak. On a positive note, musicians were really peed off yeas ago when DJs took most of their work, but there is still work out there even now. Learn to sing or play an instrument really, really well. You'll have a unique style, and AI can't compete with that.
@@ladas3509 there is exactly the same amount of musicianship that every cover band has. The only difference is that, instead of covering a song from the Beatles, Deep Purple or Led Zeppelin, I can cover an AI song with lyrics I wrote.
@@lavillenouvelleSorry i am not trying to bash your creative process and this might be my biased view. But, if you are using AI to generate music and then simply recreating it from its output, I dont see that as artistry. The beauty (even I dont really listen to them) of cover bands is band mates being able to play their instruments and playing it live etc. The coordinated effort of different people playing together. Or revivals when the original band is no more. Creating something new while letting a machine create it for you is neither original work or cover band, its a weird thing in between. This is just my opinion though, do whatever you want. If you like it, who am I, a random person person in the internet telling you something. Good luck.
If I take the perspective of a client - there is no reason to hire a musician anymore to compose music for my video or film - especially on small budget productions.
If you ever worked with a client, then you should know that they usually don’t know what they really want and can’t describe it accurately. They still need someone who would understand their gibberish and get them the results that would suite the project.
@@НикаК-ъ4ф so true. But for my short films I cannot afford to hire a musician and pay properly because I do not have the funds. Luckily now I can use AI and luckily I know what I want. If I had the funds though I would still hire a very good musician, but good quality is still expensive (and it should be). I am doubtful that AI will become better than outstanding musicians but who knows, maybe it will. The future will tell...
@@НикаК-ъ4фYes and that is where musical prompt engineers come in. Also your client can now have 50 different versions to choose from by the end of the week.
Every song made with AI is a song that people enjoy, be it as a joke or because someone who isn't a musical genius has written honest lyrics or any other reason. Any musician who opposed the existence of AI music opposed the very essence of music: that people enjoy it. What I hear in the final chapter of this video, the part about "oh no, these AI's are stealing stuff and replicate it, YOU have been robbed!" is a man who just realized that all this time, he was making money because he was gatekeeping the process of music production. What exactly is it, then, that was stolen from you? Hm? Was it your audio equipment? Was it the sales you've already made with your music? Was it the potential sales you could've made in the future? Was it the song itself? How? Is it not on your hard drive anymore? Has the data been physically removed? "It replicates it!" - and so does anyone who sings along to your songs or covers it. Your intellectual property cannot be stolen because it isn't a scarce resource. If I just draw a random wave pattern in Audacity, and create a sound that way, and that sound ends up being the exact copy of a song someone has produced, I have not stolen anything, I have, by mere accident, created something, with my own labor, using my own property and nothing has happened to the other person. "Intellectual property" is, by definition, a restriction on what other people can do with their own property. let's say I'm an author and i live in a remote village, and by sheer accident, I write an exact copy of Harry potter. 100% identical. But nobody in the village, not even I myself, knows that some british woman wrote the same book years prior. In fact, it could be that your music is already violating the "intellectual property" of some alien on another planet. Face it, gatekeepers, copyright, IP and all the other legal tools you use will fall apart with the AI revolution. AI music will not make musicians, but it will get people MORE music to consume, more art to consume, more of the things they want. The existence of the final product, the piece of music, piece of art, video game or book is what matters, not who has created it. AI will bring more stuff for us to consume, and that is a good thing.
So u think it s okay for machine to take over humans own songs ? If u dont get royalties anymore, then artist and musicians will no longer live. Hes saying that AI is learning to make songs, which means writers/composers soon doesnt have a job. If they dont get royalties.
A lot of musicians lost their jobs when recording music was invented. Movie theaters used to have live musicians. AI was inevitably going to happen as long as technology kept advancing.
I've seen AI take a huge leap in graphics, coding and now music. These are all things I know enough about to understand the significance of where it's going to be before we realize. But like many technologies of a similar nature, I'm convinced humans will still be required. Because ultimately all these creative endeavors need to be appealing. They need curation. Right now AI can write lyrics, but they mostly sound like the ramblings of a 9 year old. The musical choices the AI makes may be clever and all, but always sound wonky to me. And having used udio a little it often loses it's mind and starts singing mystery AI nonsense. It will improve. A lot. It'll be much better fidelity and have far more convincing simulations. I just wonder if instead of fear and uncertainty, maybe we should look for opportunity? Remember how in the 80s/90s everything was "over" once samplers could record chunks of music. Yet it inspired creativity rather than destroying it. Can we use AI to our advantage? As an assistant? Just as we would work with another band member or contributor? Can AI help us improve our own skills, raise our game and help us grow our talent? I hope so. Much ❤ to all the creatives out there.
We will be able to spawn music directly from our brain, whole orchestras, music that we have never imagined that could be created by any means and this will be done with OUR intelligence, with the help of our advanced tools. which again are OUR intelligence and not some artificial outsider.
Yeah sure but it won't be us, it will be done by AI engineers and prompters hired by the top companies (Spotify, Apple Music, etc.) and those will generate the perfect tracks according to data collected from the net to satisfy the current trends and zeitgeist. Should some artist come up with something novel, they will feed the tech with it and within a month, release thousands of albums in the novel style, making it obsolete and the artist who created it obsolete. Nowadays the industry is slow and it takes a long time for a novel music style to be established in pop culture - enough time for the artists who created it to become known and associated with it. With this tech, it will be lightning fast and since these companies have massive funding and the best lawyers in the world, good luck in suing them. Look whats happening with streaming fraud right now and publishers witholding payments from artists under the fake premise of "artificial streams" while big labels openly use artificial streams to boost their artists numbers. This is whats awaiting the entire industry and those who have big money will win the war, always have and always will.
AI as an assistant tool will always enhance (like auto-tune) but some inventions take over. The drum machine put most drummers out of a gig. A.I. nowadays is a new thing. It replaces the human element completely and offers a product made entirely without humans (except the data it mined in the first place all comes from humans) but once a computer can do the job in seconds. No human could ever compete with that. Not in a million years. We are creating our own downfalls and whoever owns the copyrights or patents gets rich and everyone else gets forgotten.
@@prolifik302 I hear you. However, just thinking of artists I've loved over the years who've somehow navigated and survived a veritable torrent of fivver producers and band-in-a-box magicians. It's worrying for writers, artists, coders, musicians, poets, one and all. At the end of the day the market will decide. Keep being creative and productive. Good luck 👍🏻
Scary indeed, but this is no different than anything else at all! There are many examples for that: Working/performing/studio musicians were already replaced with sample libraries. That's just one example. Bands and ensembles were replaced either by DJs or one man band arranger keyboards that can also be used for recording purposes. This is hardly shocking at this point! In fact, what makes anybody thing there won't be an AI model that can accept much more musical input from a user as a prompt. Say, the user puts: Make a pop ballad in the key of Fm, use the following chord progression, repeat the chorus twice and modulate to the key of such and such.. and so on! What makes anyone think this type of tech is not going to be available next Monday?
The difference is that one was people replacing other people and evolving. This is something else. It's removing the human from the equation entirely (except for the few who profit from it). But you are correct that capitalism has essentially been driving real art into oblivion for some time. That was already hard to find in this kind of economy. But the new economy is entirely of a different scale. It's more like techno feudalism and we all just became the peasants and the slaves
@@MattAngiono But not really. Companies have hired people and developed various technologies that ultimately eliminated many jobs altogether. Many of those positions don't even exist anymore. This applies to both the music and film industries, which I have been a part of as a professional musician for the past 30 years. Some key positions have been reduced to just ONE person doing multiple tasks. This is simply an evolution of how things began to change in a particular direction. The only thing that has changed is the rate at which these changes are evolving. This is absolutely new!
@@lgbtqarchives well, the rate means A LOT! In the past, with the turn over, there was time to find other forms of income for most people and the amount of unemployment was relatively stable (though it certainly didn't feel that way to those displaced). I'm not saying it was good then. I think capitalism has been terrible for people. But there have still been people keeping the economy going and fitting into the cracks. This new displacement is going to be so huge that that illusion is about to be shattered. For people paying attention, it already has been, as with the creator of this video. This economy can no longer function in the way it has for hundreds of years. But we haven't yet figured out how to give people an opportunity to make a living when there aren't jobs. I'm fine with having less workers, but without another way to survive and provide for a family, this is going to be very disruptive. In the end, it can be a good thing, but that requires a whole new type of economy and value system. The issue is that big tech already realizes this and has some horrific plans to deal with the situation. They have already built techno feudalism and intend to only make it worse. They own everything... We own nothing, but somehow are "happy"?!? Sounds like they are also going to have to brainwash us
I'm an EDM producer and use Udio as the main tool to produce all my music. My last track took me 4 days of work to create. 90% of the time was spent inside Udio, where I had to ask Udio to make around 1000 music clips before the 4-minute track was completed to my liking, and that's my art, my creativity right there, unlimited by technical stuff and unlimited by my lack of vocal/singing capabilities. AI frees me from having to know technical things about how to program instruments, notes, accords, scales, mixing, etc. Still, I need to write the lyrics and pick and choose the AI-generated music clips based on my musical taste, what I hear, and my idea of what makes a hit song. I spend 90% of the time being creative with Udio AI and 10% doing the arrangement and mastering inside the DAW. With AI, my creativity is no longer limited by my technical skills, and it's fantastic. I'm a much happier and better musical producer now that I can do a complete EMD track with female vocals and not depend on others. I no longer rely on singers or rappers and get to keep 100% of the royalties.
@@JaviermpgomI don't care what people think; as far as I know, I'm already an artist/creator when I'm writing the lyrics. So, by definition, I'm a composer, and if that was all I did, I would, by law, be entitled to 50% of all royalties of any musical project I co-work. The rest of the musical work I do is mostly about having the taste to pick the AI-generated music clips that make me feel the emotions I'm looking for. What I care about is the final output. I could do all musical work by hand and release some crap-sounding music without AI because it would take 10 years to learn all the technical stuff. I would have to spend another 10 years learning how to sing and another 10 years becoming a musician and playing all the instruments I use without a computer. It is impossible in this lifetime, and who in their right mind would be requiring all this from themselves to satisfy some third party's opinion of what makes an artist? And after all this 30-year learning process, I would be paid $0,005 per stream... What a joke! So, in your opinion, to be a creator or artist, one must do it all without using technology? Dude, all music producers use technology, starting with a computer, a DAW, plugins, etc... We are in 2024 and not in the 19th century. Most newer versions of musical plugins incorporate some AI to assist in writing the notes, mixing, and mastering. But hey, it's your choice if you prefer doing your art like a caveman in the Stone Age doing paintings on the cavern wall.
@@dicinohit I can see your point. Techonlogy envolves and the way of making music changes with time. Personally, I use most of the things you mentioned: daw´s, plugins... However, I think that the line must be drawn somewhere, and for me, that is IA. Also, you say you´re entitled to 50% of the royalties of the music you make. However, what does that mean in a world where ANYONE can make pretty much the same thing you do? I think your (and everyone´s) creations will have no value, as good music will lose its ´scarcity´´ and, therefore, become meaningless. I just accept I will probably never write a book, create a tv show or become a photographer. That is fine, that is what makes me admire the people that can do such things and truly enjoy their work.The day when everyone can do them will be a sad day, at least for me.
@@Javiermpgom Music lost its scarcity years ago before AI existed. It all started when DAWs, plugins, and Autotune became household items anyone could download for free on pirate websites. And also thanks to all the free RU-vid tutorials... Also, Spotify has been paying artists pennies for years... Anyone can access the same tools, but the output will continue to differ. AI will spit out different things depending on your input; for example, the lyrics you input influence the sound because the AI tool matches the notes to the sound of the words and the mood you're after... Also, making music is only 10% of the work... The other 90% of the work required to be successful involves marketing, content creation, networking, etc... So yes, AI and access to technology are helping many more people do this 10% of the work (the fun part), but don't forget there is the other 90% of boring work that most people don't do. The ones that do these 90% very well are the ones that will succeed. As an ex-record label owner, I have worked with many artists; most are lazy and don't do the tedious work. They want to make music and have somebody else do the boring stuff, and they fail.
@@Javiermpgom Let's remember that making music is only 10% of the work necessary to be successful in music. Only some are willing to do the other 90% of the tedious work with marketing/promotion, content creation, networking, etc. Also, music lost its "scarcity" long before AI was invented, thanks to easy access to DAWs, plugins (through pirate websites), tutorials, etc... Spotify has been paying us pennies for years.
US Copyright law says it has to be done by a human, otherwise copyrights don't apply. If you wrote the lyrics then those would be your copyright material. Congress is going to have to take a serious look at this, which in turn would be a great opportunity for musicians/artists to step up & be heard. This whole situation takes me back to when midi started. People who couldn't play drums suddenly had the ability to create some serious licks. Technically a persons input, which could also apply to prompts. And what about AutoTune? Sure someone is singing but the "machine" makes them sound better by ensuring they are on key. Nobody naturally has reverb/delay/etc either. And didn't we all basically "steal" when learning how to sing/play an instrument like someone else, or use someone's style to write lyrics/melodies/etc? It's a slippery slope we are on...
I am a music producer myself and I can say with certainty that all music producers are inspired by other music. And that in the broadest sense of the word. Anyone who says he doesn't is lying. So why can't a computer do the same? There are relatively few people who make money making music compared to the number of people who make music. 99% have never made money making music, but they put a lot of time into it. Perhaps professional music makers are a bit spoiled, because they get money for pursuing a hobby while others do the same without getting any money for it. And maybe the others do it even better. When you do something for money, you have to accept that the world is constantly changing and maybe at some point what you do is no longer so important. That happens in every industry. I would say adapt and move on.
The AI isn't stealing the music, it's stealing the profession of being a musician, and it's doing it by being better at it. It's awful, but there's no law against it. It might not even be immoral, in the wider view. Someone on twitter said - AI was supposed to do the tedious stuff for creative people, not the creative stuff for tedious people.
Well how did AI learn? One day I received 120 euros from pond5 . They had sold my entire catalog with them for Ai learning. And I m stuck legally because I had to opt out,but I didn't know... (i dont read all emails...). That is theft. 120 euros for years of production!
@@ekeys6897 That's sounds like a really sleazy policy from that company (I know nothing about them), and I'm sure they have some fine print somewhere that you agreed to, but that doesn't make what they did any less sleazy. What they essentially did was allow an AI to extract insights from your music as part of its training. Sure, it's not copyright infringement and they paid you for it, but there was no negotiation, no immediate consent. It's probably legal, but that doesn't mean we have to like it. Analogies are difficult and imperfect in this context, but I used to teach at a film school. What happened to you would be similar to my old film school bundling up my previous lectures and PowerPoint slides and using them to train people without telling me, relying on the fine print in my contact to do it. Sure, they send me a payment, but it would still be weird (for the record, they'd never do that). It seems like all human endeavour is rapidly becoming nothing more than training data for our future AI servants... Or our future AI overlords...
@@peacefulman2196 Well, it depends how they got the music and what they did with the music after they got it. Simply downloading music is rarely illegal, though it may have been in violation of the terms they agreed to when they accessed the music. Was the music streamed to a file or recorded from a streaming service? Or did the AI simply "listen" to it via streaming? Was the music taken from a downloading service? CDs? Free-to-air radio? We just don't know. If they broke the terms of whatever conditions they agreed to when accessing the music, then I guess they can be sued (IANAL), but that's not typically a criminal matter. It's not against the law to breach most contracts, but it's often very unwise. One possible exception is if they decrypted encrypted music in the USA - which might be illegal under the US DMCA, but if they did it outside of US jusristiction, even that doesn't apply (IANAL). I predict two things - 1. if it's legal for a human to do it (listen to a bunch of music and then create new works inspired by them) then it's surely legal for softrware to do it. 2. By the time these cases work their way through the various courts of several nations, the music industry (and several other industries) might have already adapted, or shrunk, or mostly vanished. I'm not saying that's a good thing.
Hehe, no one is going to have this gold rush forever. Most of the AI community goes for the free stuff because many of us think about it as democratizing access and tools to make creative things. You also can't copyright AI made works. People making things will be sharing and showing stuff because they like what they made. IE what art is supposed to be, priceless. The amount of new generators that come out are a dime a dozen. And every company does the same thing. They offer a lot for free, they get a lot of traction, they start removing the stuff that was free and putting up a pay wall. It continues to get worse, people complain, a new company does the same thing and it goes down the line. Some people pay for a subscription, but most aren't worth it and you can find plenty of people talking about how it isn't. AI is going to be free (as much as anything can be. A bigger thing will be getting people with good computer rigs or subsidizing them so they do have access. Not unlike how internet is near ubiquitous now to modern life to exist and function in society.). Which is the point, accessibility to an incredible tool to make things. Especially when it's going to start taking the jobs people thought it would take first. I get the freak out over losing jobs, that's an understandable one given the world we live in. But I am really annoyed by all artistic communities claiming that it takes away the integrity of art. They're upset about not making money. And whether that's because they need to eat or because the won't be able to buy another car or house, the reasoning is the same. Fear. Art is expression through a tool. That tool doesn't matter. Be it duct taping a banana to a wall or a kid making a stick figure drawing of their family or someone giving a prompt and an AI or commissioner making the product.
You know what can't be replaced by AI? Live performances and 1 to 1 teaching. Instead of obsessing about being replaced: adapt, struggle, survive. Automation is something that is going to affect us all, and has been changing the world for 200+ years. All the laborers when replaced simply moved on to other work. Art has always been a niche, and maybe it just is not becoming sustanable to be "just an artist" anymore like it's not super sustainable being a blacksmith, but it does require lots of skill. I'm not going to tell you i have a solution, I'm just saying it's a problem that the regular working class HAS BEEN dealing with. Good luck.
Don't be so sure. Sooner than you can realize, AI will learn on music stars and easily replace them with robots which will have uncanny identical appearance - robotic clones. And, one by one, such cloned artists will 'disappear' but few will care as their masterful ai robot clone will be performing in their places, and this is how many former pop stars of yore will also be replicated, with the angle they will be immortalized forever. Do not under estimate the ability to entirely replicate humanity; it is a matter of the tech getting to each point of development, and greed will push many to keep along such threatening paths. The issue is that people think too highly of themselves, and do not realize our vulnerabilities. Yes, every person is unique, but that uniqueness, in the right hands, can be studied and eventually realistically duplicated - bio-ai it will be, as in biological ai, that will replace lives musicians, making their corporate human owners initially very wealthy, as the bio-ai are pennies on the dollars compared to the normal costs of human music performers. There will even be some individual unique ai personalities who will captivate the world with live performances, we really are on the brink of extinction.
@@viviangendernalikI don't know if they'll ever be able to properly "capture" the human essence. They can replicate it to a very high degree, but as far as I can tell, I don't think they'll ever REALLY think like us.
*My friend, you are so so right... I'm choking, I can't speak, I have words stick in throat.* To take away the music pleasure of the remaining billions of people just so that a few thousand people can make money. Displacement and depression of thousands of musicians. The world has rarely seen such treachery before. But I trust the inexplicable perception of human beings. Sooner or later, artificial intelligence will lose. Because people will not enjoy listening to something that has no effort behind it. This is a beyond technical issue. It's completely subconscious. People actually reward effort, talent and performance. At first, everyone will flock to artificial intelligence with the false drunkenness of not witnessing a new revolution, but this interest will decrease over time. This is a bell-shaped curve. One day, everything will return to its original state, where it is most beautiful. This is the law of nature. Let us experience our anger right now. Let customers and uninformed fake music producers triumphantly rush into AI products. The arrow is out of the bow, this will happen. There's nothing we can do. You and we will continue to make love with our synthesizers, guitars and drums. *With love from İstanbul/Türkiye.*
Honestly, I think this is not very forward thinking. Look at stuff like midjoumey or dall-e... Maybe it has replaced some excellent technicians, but it has simply placed the emphasis on other elements of the art. No longer are scans of technical brushstrokes, scans of photorealistic paintings, and cg digital art pieces as interesting or impressive to the consumer. However, interesting concepts, new mediums, art made from personal experiences, real-life art, and anything that hasn't been done before (that the ai hasn't trained on) is still %100 viable, and I don't see that changing. In the short term, corporations may not be hiring, but people are starting to and will continue to be more and more interested in authentic experiences that simply cannot be fulfilled by a computer generated image. I'm not saying that interest/need for this AI art will fade out completely, but I do believe that it will have less value. I strongly believe music will be the same. Will the technical aspects of mixing, recording, and general tool navigation be mastered by AI? Most definitely. However, more emphasis than ever will be placed on your personal artistic values, your personal experiences, your concept/sense for making music that resonates with others deeply, new never before heard sounds, and also just the performance aspect of live music. In my opinion (and I say this as a mix engineer) it may be taking my job, but it paves the way for so much more than we have even dreamed of yet. Maybe this sounds overly optimistic to some, but I wish more people would have this viewpoint, as I think it is the key to moving forward as an artist in today's changing world, and I wish someone would have said this to me a year ago when I was angry, terrified, and depressed, much like this guy seems to be.
Those art generators have decimated the market for lesser known commission artists. Keep getting defensive, but all you have are appeals to naive optimism. It should be clear the people behind this technology have nothing but your disinterest in mind. They don't care, creative destruction, in the name of progress.
@@nunyabisinis3406 I mean that’s exactly my point. At least in the short term before the consumer base starts to value verifiably non-AI art, those lesser known commission artists are going to have to shift their focus to other mediums and disciplines. Some examples being concepts for art (maybe they can be an ai art consultant?), new mediums (sculpture, paintings incorporating reflective materials, clothing design, etc…), real world art (with a real world consumer-base! Imagine!), and other stuff that I haven’t even thought about yet. Music will be the same way. If you stop being so pessimistic and start looking at where there are gaps, you’ll find a place. It has, and will (for at least the foreseeable future) be this way. And by the way, the people behind this want to make their job easier, not your job harder. Progress has always been this way. They have the power to do that, and you don’t have the power to stop it, so I’m not sure what you could possibly accomplish by being pessimistic. Look forward: you’ll find a brighter path.
@nunyabisinis3406 This is not against artists or something like that. This is a religious affair. They even are OK with the idea of destroying their own careers as programmers in order to bring alive the AGI and ASI (Artificial Super Intelligence) to the world. If you check their main company main objective, you will see it on the first line. Obviously, such intelligence will not require human intervention or programming at all anymore. This entity could bring to humanity a Paradise in which we all have all what we want or a Hell if we don't do the transition well.
@nunyabisinis3406 This is not against artists or something like that. This is a religious affair. They even are OK with the idea of destroying their own careers as programmers in order to bring alive the AGI and ASI (Artificial Super Intelligence) to the world. If you check their main company main objective, you will see it on the first line. Obviously, such intelligence will not require human intervention or programming at all anymore. This entity could bring to humanity a Paradise in which we all have all what we want or a Hell if we don't do the transition well.
I hope that with the music that you’ve made, you’ve taken no influence from other artists and created a new genre that no one’s heard before. Otherwise, you’re doing the same thing AI is doing.
@@elijahtrenton8351 but that’s if they copy the same melody or copy and paste parts of another song into their song. AI is taking information from a bunch of different sources and creating something brand new with it.
@@mrpillowsanyone who defends that argument 1: has never created anything in their lives worth protecting 2: have no idea how copyright works 3: have no idea how musicians/artists create things 4: you’re just repeating what the CEO’s and data pirates are saying 5: have not kept up with all the lawsuits 6: have never created an AI model in your life 7: it takes less than 2 brain cells to understand these generators wouldn’t work if they didn’t steal the rights to these songs and images, it’s the whole point of copyright law, why do you think suno purposely tries to hide their datasets? Its because they know they’re going to get sued into oblivion, people like you with no brain cells will say “oh it’s just like a human artist how they get inspiration” you are comparing apples to oranges, ai doesn’t learn like a human, you need to compare it to what it’s actually doing which is stealing not seeing, like you can’t just walk into a Best Buy and steal everything and make a tool out of it and then be like “oh shit sorry guys it was too hard to pay and credit everything so we just stole it all” y’all are clowns bro and it’s scary how much of you that think like that
The lawsuits won't really matter. AI is increasingly undetectable and in 5 years things like Udio will be replicable from scratch on consumer hardware. It's already getting to the point where new image generation AIs are being built and trained by one or two people on a small budget.
The only thing 'bad' is what they create. It is not listenable, but, as it gets better, what's to complain about? We will have better music to accompany us through life (including from human composers and producers (and performers) who have to raise their artistic bar).
This was good to watch. I am a hobbyist musician with around 15 years experience, but I find myself at odds being extremely enthusiastic about and pro-AI music. I really had to dig to find something like this video, with deep heartfelt insights on generative AI for music. And concerns around the impact it has on those like you who have built a living around what (I agree fully) this technology will steamroll through. The concerns about the capitalist machine and the naturally small contingent of artists inability to protest or stop it is striking; it really isn't short of past 'invasions' of land and livelihood. But I am convinced that the 'creative' people will adapt and retain their edge over untrained. AI will undeniably redefine the market, but rather than the death knell of creative artists, I see it as an evolution. I'm thinking about the introduction of past instruments and technologies that initially disrupted but ultimately expanded the artform. While it presents challenges, particularly with attribution, it also democratises creation and could lead to uncharted territories of artistry; allowing those with rich unique experiences to express ideas through music without the steep learning curve. I've invested 15 years into producing 100+ songs and yet I welcome the concept of others being able to access such capability. Embracing AI's potential while advocating for ethical practices could herald a new era where technology and human artistry coalesce. Human creativity will always be at the core, with AI serving as a tool, not a replacement. Live performances will remain interesting much as we follow elite chess players and athletics despite machines performing at a superhuman level. The stock music industry... I'm compelled to think that an artist with experience (and a setup) like you have will generate superior results from this tech than a layman with no experience. I am unsure, therefore, that this is going to squash the spectrum between 'skilled' and untrained musicians; rather, only augment and improve everything. Moreover, where it reaches a point that even our creative decision making and ability to express deep complex emotions is done better by AI (seems inevitable), there is a chance that we will have uncovered even greater purpose and meaning in the process of reaching that point. In a years time, it could well be drafting compositions 100x better than Mozart. I also expect significantly more control over every second of the music, and stem separation; such capabilities I believe that our best creatives will do some unprecedented things with. As someone who more less just wants to hear the best possible music, I look forward to it. I still believe that human productions (like humans playing chess, or hand made ornamentals vs factory made precision cut designs) will have their place. I expect that I have thought about and anticipated this more than some others, being passionate about music and also technology. I've been following AI closely for around 7-8 years, long before tools like gpt 3 put it on more peoples radar. In fact, in 2017 I conceptualised the idea of future generative AI music that can put humans in a zombie-like trance state; with real-time perfectly calibrated music, resonant to the listeners emotional state; this seems outright dangerous and addictive, like illegal substances. We are venturing into a mystery box of equal parts infinite darkness and brightness and the capitalist machine is going to keep pushing full steam ahead. Deep conversations, like this video and the responses NEED to keep happening, at scale, to shape the future in a way that is favourable for all of humanity.
@@rainmaker6920 in fact it is from the depths of my very human heart and I took a while putting it together. I've already taken part in endless deep conversations and had many contemplations about AI Generated music, trying to process it all for myself. Unfortunately, however, now in the age of generative AI; this will not be the first human-composed piece assumed to be generated by AI. In addition, I do interact with LLMs constantly and I have no doubt that it's 'writing style' is something I'm naturally adopting in my own writing; I will say, although I'm an adult, with AI, I feel like I'm learning and absorbing new skills like a child would. The unrelenting patience and ability to query it in deep context is unchartered territory. I think it's all going to become important to look beyond this type of 'that's not you that's AI' minutiae, across all mediums, and to simply work on the principle that the information posted by an individual conveys their intended message; AI generated or not. I stand by the principle; that content without substance will flood the scene like an endless tidal wave, but it will not take the spotlight from the meaningful, important messages.
... but they won't make any money. That was not an issue for me as a production music musician because the money became secondary when I saw how little money it brought in and moved to something else. I just thought of it as a token of appreciation once I saw no possible future ahead. But some people rely on it and that's already started ending for many of them. I give it a year at the most before stock music becomes obsolete and music sync licensing starts its down hill slide. Music consumers don't care how the music is made and Ai is both cheaper for them and faster to produce while the quality these days is basically the same as a whole.
Actually in a way this rise in AI is going to destroy the capitalist market, and good riddance. Music will come back to being fun and something that everyone can participate in. As you say, home studio artists are fine, it's the mainstream market that is being replaced. So much talent out there is being wasted, talented musicians selling their souls and their talent to the corporate world. Making corporate jingles and corporate movie soundtracks that trick us into feeling all sorts of things, usually with the intention of making profit from us. I don't watch the ads and mainstream stuff anyway. Let AI take those jobs. Artists are now given a new set of tools and instruments to create with. I am really excited to hear what sorts of mind blowing audio experiences are on the horizon.
I had light fight about it with my wife recently... She was very angry at me even talking about AI. She wants to live away from technology and be done with it. Which I understand. But the technological progress will be made and it will happen. I think this is not only your frustration. This is all creators frustration. You were not scared of Midjourney or GPT, because its not as close to your skin as for photographers for example. Think about guys that did visual fx in movies - they are obsolete now as well. But so are the farmers, who will be replaced by tech and other operators. I am in finance field. I already see changes coming here quickly as well... I did hear AI generated song made in tune of Depeche Mode (we, Poles, all love those guys :) If you would tell me its from some B-side, I would not blink an eye. But here is worse - my emotional reaction to that AI generated song was similar to real life. I did have goose bumps when the chorus / bridge came in... So what I think will happen is the following: (1) Bands and performers will survive somehow and live music will still be there, (2) It will become luxury product, (3) Stock music is dead. Probably Netflix is already hireing guys to put out songs using those AI products for their movies; (4) We need to figure out how to protect the IP, and this IP would be your band's style - which as of now, I have no idea how to even quantify/identify that, (5) The person who will lead us in the fight for keeping musicians protected will be... Taylor Swift (You will see).
That dubstep song at 8:06 sounds very inspired from Pendulum. I think it sort of derives it's references from that artist for this particular generation. Interesting.
Let's face it, music was already dead. It was in total decline, something to see the music that is heard today. Full of mediocre artists lining their pockets with shitty music. I am not going to cry for a music industry that preferred money to the mercy of mediocrity. Without a doubt, a tool was needed that would put music on a new level.
I basically think the same, I quitted producing mainstream music in the late nineties because of mediocrity. At that time, already, there wasn't space for original ideas. Of course, all the musicians who make their living producing mediocre, standard, commercial stuff, are going to loose a good chunk of their revenues. I'm sorry for them, but this is an occupation issue, that has nothing to do with art. I welcome AI, because of its infinite spitting in our faces the mediocrity of "our" modern pop music. This will force us to reconsider, re-think pop music itself. Moreover, I've never listened to an AI generated piece that really moved my neurons. Pure generative AI music cannot be considered art in any way, in my opinion.
@@LATQueens When Napster hit in 2000, the only way musicians could make money was touring and concerts. I never figured out why the music after that went all suck @ss all the way to today.
@ricktheexplorer I agree with you. But don't forget, most artists from back in the day would tell you that they made most of their money from touring and shows anyway. Record labels would consistently pay artists pennies on the dollar for each album sold.
Excellent video. As a songwriter, studio owner and musician, people who know me have been surprised at how much I've embraced Suno these past few weeks. I've just completed my first ai album and what a journey it's been. But I had the same epiphany as you when i started. A paradigm shift has begun! Independent commercial musicians and composers better start adapting. Learn the tools, all of them, and incorporate them into your workflow. It's not ai taking your jobs. It's the people using ai who are taking your jobs. On a positive note, I predict we're soon to enter a whole new world of wonderful music out there on the airwaves. Goodbye generic samey pop music. My experience with Suno tells me it has the ability to perfect and emote anything it touches. Our job is to pick out the definitive versions. To tweak and hone the lyrical content and style. Once achieved, literally millions of amazing tunes will be heading our way sooner than we realise. And yes, everyone should probably stop thinking of making music for a living as a viable option. Music making is about to become democratized and freely available to the masses. Which is a beautiful thing. As for us pro music makers...it was good whilst it lasted.
For calculators they said, "We're F*ED and it's really BAD!".... for smartphones they said, "We're F*ED and it's really BAD!"... AI is here and what? 😛
@@ewr34certxwertwer agree 100 percent, im an old skool, but this is the future, and we must see it as a tool, a challenge...not as some dangerous monster...regards
We cannot stop it, we should use it as assistant or to make the music better with our knowledge as all the generated music which will flood all services.
We should certainly use it as a justification to call for major economic reforms or an entire economic overhaul. How else will people get by when AI takes their jobs? Sounds like the perfect excuse to end the concept of creatives having to be "starving artists".
@@Mopantsu If the people demand it be setup as intended, there shouldn't be any strings attached at all. The concept of UBI actually started with the name "Unconditional Basic Income" before Yang popularized calling it universal. If we stick to the name Unconditional, it makes it a lot harder to corrupt with such "strings" or conditions. In practice, UBI should work as an AI Dividend, a payment to people for their data which goes into training AI that out competes them. It works as a transition policy to whatever economy total AI automation will create, and could even increase to give people a bigger share over time. Alternatively, AI automation could reduces the prices of goods to nearly zero over time, so a UBI would just help people get through the period chaos we're likely to face until then, while human workers are still losing jobs.
You spoke about the Revolution…. I believe it starts here with you. An insight into our future reality and with an insight into how to combat it. One of the most inspirational videos I’ve seen in a long time. Thank you ❤
Anyway, as a Suno user who made music himself before I'm feeling empoweeed by tools like that. It's great they are available either for giving me new ideas or generating complete tracks. It will be probably an end to musicians and stock music makers will be first to fall though.
Cooking you forgot cooking computers like programming AI development will probably be done by AI in the future so what does that leave us to do hopefully that means we have forever vacation and ability to continue producing creative works I don't know maybe we will be able to do whatever we want to within resource limitations kind of we were just using our planet and destroying it because we were a consumer-based system which is really dangerous to the environment and everything we only have so much resources on Earth it would be really cool if fusion could be figured out by AI and we don't have to worry about power food production then we don't have to worry about hunger water Management then we don't have to worry about our water housing and development then we don't have to worry about places to live education because even in a future with AI I think we should still have education public needs medical would be a big deal if AI could come up with cures to bad diseases or be able to cure most diseases and help people with disabilities and mental challenges that would be amazing if anyone was able to follow their dream within the resources they are given that would be amazing that would be cool I could just make music do photography videography writing just for myself and those who are my friends and I could share it to a website maybe that's for humans
Customer service IE 50% of the worlds work force. There are already various things in place where there are stipends and pay outs to companies that don't have robots fully take over with "can I get your order? Can I help you find anything?" Manual labour is just robots. Don't really need advanced AI for that. Also, yes please, dangerous jobs need to go. CEO's, bankers, manufacturing etc. I think only jobs that may require some human oversight for a time will be dangerous ones, say like surgery or medical/chemical (lab experiments). But a lot of the dangerous and mundane things, why have humans there? We could be doing something far more useful, like enriching our lives by creating things (yes with AI and yes to doing it with whatever tool, be that a tablet, a guitar, a DAW whatever it is) and getting much more comprehensive education. It's weird how people think that suffering has value. All we do as a species is work to make things easier, to live longer, to have higher quality of life. But then we mock and berate people for being "soft" to which, not a single person today would actually survive by themselves entirely. This whole idea of self-made independent is proof of the lack of education that we're a social species. We work together, we do things together, we create and share things together. After survival is assured, we just do art and discover new means of what art even is. Most societies and circles of people who don't have to be concerned over bills don't turn into Wall-E, they produce artistic "soft" things in perpetuity. This is evident in history from the upper class. They found all kinds of ways to do parties, artistic endeavours and made up new things or experiments. Humans like to do things. We will always find something to do.
That's life. People need to get a grip and get with it. The truth is the music indrutry and "pros" have sucked for a long time, this just devalued the suck. Now people have no option but to get better or disappear. Which is a GOOD THING.
AI and Music: A Dream Come True for Lyricists?” Since middle school, I’ve been writing song lyrics. Unfortunately, I lack the ability to compose music or play any instruments. Growing up in a financially challenged family, I couldn’t afford music lessons. Now, with an autoimmune disease that has stiffened my joints, learning to play an instrument seems even more daunting. I don’t have the means to hire a singer or produce music to accompany my lyrics. However, discovering AI tools that allow me to add my lyrics, specify a genre, and create a song structure feels like a dream come true. But is it fair for me to publish this music? The video you mentioned raises valid points. I empathize with musicians who’ve dedicated their lives to mastering the craft, only to face competition from AI-generated music. Used correctly, AI could be a powerful tool without undermining hardworking artists. Still, I share your concern about music becoming cheap and ubiquitous. On the other hand, hearing my lyrics come to life is exhilarating-I did write them, after all. While I grapple with the ethical implications, I appreciate the possibilities AI offers. Perhaps striking a balance between human creativity and technological assistance is the key.
as an artist im glad AI is here to compete, people just been making cheap quick buck "art" instead of actually putting effort and love in their works. AI will force artists to be creative again and this is great.
@@markozivanovic117 there shouldnt be a law cuz whos a bad artist and dont put actual care wont be able to profit, but whos good they will profit cuz AI cant do what they do. i know its harsh to not care abt peoples incomes, but i care more abt art and culture and who ruins that dont deserve money.
@@msscott22 i support cuz only artists that put meaning into their arts will survive from this, only the original and good ones. the end of this thing people call as art but is all just easy money will be good for art itself, the generic "arts" are bad but AI will force people out of this since it mostly just know how to do the most common stuff since is all dependent on the size of the training data about a certain subject. so this is why im a supporter.
@@jktech2117 I get your viewpoint, but this tech is going to ruin everything. If you think we have garbage now, just wait, we're gonna have garbage a million fold.
Udio is like a Rubics Cube. Most people pick it up, fiddle with it for about 30 seconds and then put it back down and go on with their life. Attention spans are too short for Udio to grow. It will face the same fate as Pokemon Go did in 2016. I'm not worried about AI. People abandoned CD's and went back to vinyl and cassettes and rendered CD's as a "fad". This AI music recreation thing is just a fad and will fade soon. I'm not giving in to the paranoia. History repeats itself too much to do so.
Yes, UDIO has problems with it's utility that SUNO doesn't, which is why I prefer the latter. It will undoubtedly stay, but it will take its place in the panoply of tools and be no more prominent than synths or anything else.
@ZEKAVEO no it's fun as a consumer to generate songs about literally any topic that would never exist otherwise. What I think people are gonna have to do is do what songwriters did in the nineties and make lyrics that have deeper meanings and metaphors instead of just rhyming words based on the topic which ai does.
@@Horsemanpig makes sense, though the issue is, anything that the ai generates, is copyrighted. What does that mean exactly.? It means that with the large number of people generating songs, the less room it gives people to write music due to a higher chance of copyright infringement.
@@ZEKAVEO It's fun watching entitled people get mad over a tool that allows everyone to do what they thought only they and a select few could do. Look, you're not entitled to anyone else's money. People used to pay for music because of scarcity. If people now create their own music to their taste and wishes what business is it of yours? As for your dream... What if my dream is to take money from you? Will you deny me my dream now? You monster.
After seeing this video, I started using Udio and here are some songs I produced with it my words: www.youtube.com/@magnifico372/videos ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE--nv3TM2zaVI.html Udio's words: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-XMLjVK03wOo.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-zjxLDsKvZEY.html with a poem by Baudelaire: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-CF3sPTgMSmM.html
We already opened the devil's dor, the question is was it worth it. think of the military uses or corn. I warned about it years ago, dont fuck with the devil. AI is a new devil and we created it
