Super Mario Odyssey's BIGGEST Flaw | Level By Level 

I took a little bit of a more relaxed approach to editing this video after the ton of stuff I had to do for the last one. Still though I tried a few new things here, finally figured out how to make items moving onto the screen look smooth so I hope you all enjoy the video!

The biggest flaw is that you buy a custom hat but when you capture something it returns to the default red one.

They could fix those "achievement" moons list without even changing a single thing about it. Just make Toadette your traveling companion and that's it. You'd find her stranded somewhere at the start of the game (cascade kingdom, maybe), save her, and she'd hop aboard your ship and there you go, you'd have this list of little things and goals to strive for, *while* playing through the story for the first time. Simple, really.

10:55 Anyone else just put out the fire and wall jump up? I think that's the intended way, theres even a special interaction if you do...

While I do agree that the challenge moons could be better, I think you discounting all moons that you need to 100% the game was a mistake. More often than not, players will arrive at the castle not having completed 100%. So something like, say getting all the Koopa racing moons could be a fun challenge for them. It’s not the most creative, that much is for sure, but it will almost certainly still be fulfilling for the grand majority of players.

Here’s my idea of how to make achievements in Mario odyssey more fun. Just have Toadette appear in all the kingdoms, with 5-15 challenges depending on the level. These challenges could be specific to the kingdom they’re in, which would make some really interesting challenges. It would also mean you spend less time all at once collecting moons, since there would only be a few in each kingdom. Obviously for kingdoms like cascade, cap, ruined, cloud, and lost, toadette would just appear after the main story. This could create some harder post game challenges as well.

Having worked on games before, one thing you either failed to notice or to mention and I thought was really cool is that mushroom kingdom is very clearly the designer level. By that i mean, whenever anything was added to the game, designers went to the mushroom kingdom to see if it felt right, if there were bugs, and to fine tune it with other mechanics. You can see that by the small details like the different biomes basically being micro cosmos of whole kingdoms. Using the lake as an example, you get Dory floating, so they could change the model and how it looked on the water, you have the booster flowers so they could test speed and responsiveness, you have water where they test floatiness, swimming, drowning and if the booster flowers actually let's you walk on water. You have the jumpy mushroom, where they could time how high it goes, and if the wall feels jumpable with the boost. These are the examples that come to mind without the game open And this is everywhere, not just that area. I think this is awesome because it means the dev level (usually dead weight) has turned into a very fun-feeling level. Putting those dev hours into good use and sitting how polished this game is, to the point that a DEVELOPER level is one of my favorites

Imagine if you could explore all the rooms in the castle from Mario 64 in Odyssey that would be so cool tbh But Peach’s new wall phasing power had to ruin it :(

"Mushroom Kingdom is the last kingdom you unlock" Dark Side and Darker Side: "Are we a joke to you?"

21:50 Actually it’s impossible to beat the game only getting 1 achievement, as there are ones for beating the game, and getting 100 moons (the minimum is 124)

Yes, I do think achievements are a good addition, but like you said it could be done better. For example for each stage there could be like 5-10 achievements that you have to go through or something like that. Also, this could be a great time to bring back characters, since there will probably be different characters showing achievements each time. Anyways great video Odyssey, keep it up!

2:15 Bowser is defeated? Oh no not a spoiler!!! mY liFe Is A liE nOw. I thought Bowser was immortal. 100% the biggest plot twist everxD. Very good video:D

11:06 I believe this is an ancient piece of technology called "a well." It was used in mesopotamian times as a way of acquiring water when you're far from a river by digging a hole that goes below the water table and lining the walls with stone to prevent contamination. It's a pretty obscure piece of history, so it's surprising to see it referenced here.

"Maybe they could have had the complete the Darker Side while using the invisibility hat challenge" I think I speak for many of us players when I say I value my sanity too much to even fathom attempting that. The invisibility costume is the worst one for sure, and beating that damn level normally was painful enough thank you very much. Again with the whole "harder automatically means better" mentality lol. I like to be able to enjoy the game with a bit of challenge but not so much that it makes me destroy every controller in my house.

Honestly, I think most of the moons in the game *are* those sorts of "challenge achievements" - like with the RC car thing, how once you unlock the moon rock stuff, you can enter an area with more complex car racing, and you have to do well enough to get a moon. Im not sure what other "challenges" they could have had.

At the beginning of Odessey say, when you get the hat ship, Toadette is found inside it unconscious, and she has achievements for you

I personally think the worst thing about Odyssey is the fact that so many moons are repeated. Trace walk moons, Koopa race moons, moons where you just ground, moons where you need to where a specific outfit, Boneteer moons, moon chards, and over 1/9 of the moons that are just sitting out in the open. This leads to a lot of the game just feeling really repetitive, and the only moments that feel fresh to me are the Jump Up Superstar song and the Break Free song. Despite this however, I did have a fun time replaying it, and still think Odyssey is one of the best Mario games ever made

According to some shiverians that appear in the mushroom kingdom after the Peach Postgame quest, the stone tunnel leading to the 2d section is actually a well. Sidenote: the moon gotten from this kingdom at the end of the Peach side quest (Princess peach: Home again) May just be my Favourite Moon in the Entire game. Her speech unironically gives me chills.

I can't remember whether I liked Toadette's challenges or not. I didn't mind her giving the stars one at a time, though. Thought it was kinda funny. "Here's a star, and here's another star, and another, and another, and another, and another..." As for repated moons, I didn't mind most of them, but I hated the koopa races. The fact that they're in almost every level kinda takes the specialness away from it. Like, imagine if Koopa the Quick was in every level of Mario 64.

Mushroom kingdom is basically a nostalgia overload zone and achievement zone.

The moon in wooded kingdom you just called "Complete garbage" was the only one I needed in that kingdom to complete it thank you!

They did it correctly when filling the odyssey. It's very fulfilling to have a ton of moons getting stored at once.

20:44 yeah I was 100%ing the game as I went through it and by the time I’d reached the mushroom kingdom I’d done like 45 of these and had to sit through so many

5:15 I like how the mini mushroom is the biggest mushroom

I really like that they included the Tanooki Leaf Tree in Mushroom Kingdom. I got Super Mario 3D Land for Christmas in 2nd Grade

Original Mushroom Kingdom was also to include toad town and maybe even Mario's house. In their opinion they found it to be a little too large and they were unable to fill it with enough interesting moons and activities.

14:39 there was actually MIPS the rabbit in the original Super Mario 64 in the basement (near the Lethal Lava Land entrance), he would spawn when the player got 15 stars, and then a second time when they have 50 stars. So I'm pretty sure that if anything it's a reference to that and not Super Mario 64 DS.

In my first 100% playthrough, I actually tried darker side with the invisibility cap, thinking it would reward me with more moons. I was very disappointed when I put in a lot of work for nothing

Yes! Another level-bylevel! This are some of my favorite of your videos and I hope you keep making them : ).

I can't believe Odyssey didn't mention the binocular capture that is clearly in this kingdom, we trusted you for so long, why did you have to deceive us like that?

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I love and fully support the level by level series. So far, every episode has been really good and well made! Congrats Odyssey!

I really liked that she gave each achievement independently, I enjoyed the fanfare

I personally find the Mecha-Wiggler rematch to have the biggest difficulty spike, mainly because of how awkward it is controlling the aiming cursor. And I don't agree with the whole concept of "more difficult = better". It can make it more interesting, and I like a challenge, but I also like not having to rip my hair out due to straight-up unfair fights or challenges lol. There needs to be a balance and the strat to succeed should take some thinking but shouldn't be cryptic either.

As someone who personally found Odyssey to be one of the weaker 3D Marios, this really ties into my main problem with how the insanely large amount of moons often bogs down the design of the game more than anything. Over half of the moons in this game just felt like filler content, and I would have enjoyed the game significantly more if it focused on a smaller number of moons but making sure they were well designed and interesting to get, rather than the massive amount of moons which require you to throw a nut into a pot, talk to some random person, just ground pound a spot, and many other uninteresting moons that bog down the pacing of the game. This problem generally worsens at the postgame, because for some reason most of the moon rock moons are really easy even though you only gain access to them after you beat the game. The Mushroom Kingdom has a similar issue to an extent, but it's not as bad because it's meant to be a break area and there's still some super hard moons in it. Honestly, I believe Odyssey sets a dangerous precedent of trying to force hundreds of moons into the game, and I'm worried that the next 3D Mario will try to recreate the amount of "content" that is in Odyssey, which leads to quantity over quality and generally poor pacing from my experience with Odyssey.

If I ever make a video game, I'm gonna include an achievement which is "beat the main story without earning any achievements". It's gonna be set up in a way that you have to navigate through the game avoiding achievements that you'd normally just happen across (things like jump or coin counters, or achievements for beating certain bosses in odyssey's case)

I think the challenge moons might be difficult to add, since the normal moons are already pretty much an award for doing challenges.

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"Mushroom Kingdom doesn't have any big captures." Yoshi: "Am I a joke to you?"

The Biggest flaw in Super Mario Odyssey is that is that Mario

Great video! Btw I just love how all the words on the end of your sentences are elongated. idk now that ive realized it its so funny to me

Imagine if in the last achievement, Toadette refuses to give you and says something like "Wait, I have a last challenge for you" and then she reveals as a secret boss of various phases in a way Monk Maz Koshia did in BotW

12:53 fun fact, that glitch is used in speedruns

I agree with achievements that they are a little easy to collect. However I think one reason they made you go through every single achievement moon individually is so that you could get the satisfaction of getting a ton of moons back to back. Using that logic, it makes sense why so many of them are so easy. That would also explain why you get them at the end. I do agree that next game they should have more achievement moons that don’t just come so easy. With the current version I feel they should have given the option to skip, but honestly for me personally I enjoyed getting several moons back to back, even if it was a little slow. It was honestly a highlight for me. Just my opinion. :)

"the purple coins in this kingdom are modeled after mario 64 coins" purple coins from mario galaxy: am i a joke to you?

11:13 i have played super mario odyssey a lot, one of my favorite games, but there are still many things that i didn't know about, like that heart in invisible block for example. This tells very much about how much work went into the game just to add little secrets and easter eggs everywhere.

When he didn't say here we go, had me on edge

15:35 I actually accidentally got this moon by ground pound rolling. I will never forget this moon!

If this is Odyssey's greatest flaw, that's truly great praise.

Yo this was suuper fun, ceep this up. That was really good

Has anybody noticed that the map of mushroom kingdom looks like either Peach or Pauline? You could tell the the hair on the left of the map and the lips on the right. and the lips kind of protrude from the main island kind of like luncheon kingdom’s mountain. This also why I think Nintendo did as a deliberate choice. Maybe they did it for a moon? Just put it somewhere else. Mushroom kingdom is so big, after all. They have so much space to work with. because Mushroom kingdom is supposed be nostalgic, maybe they shaped it like Pauline to call back to the Metro kingdom. It would make sense, after all.

To add on to some of what you said, having it be a post-game level is fitting because in *The Odyssey*, the main character of that story does not start in his homeland, and after all the quests of the story, he ends up home.

I really like this! But I have a question…… what is the “dramatic bowser music” that you use?

14:00 One more thing about the 64 room: It's the only place the game tells you how to Dive Jump, where you jump-throw-dive-bounce. I'm sure most people figured it out and/or saw someone else do it, but the game saves it as a sort of special technique only explained here. It doesn't even show up in the Action Guide after you read the sign!

XD i love how you used The Lord Of Lightning's theme while talking to toadette

You are an inspiration when it comes to Mario maker two tips tricks and glitches

11:04 that thing might be a reference to the holes on the gateway galaxy for Super Mario Galaxy

This is one of the many reasons why I want a centralized achievement system for the Switch like what Xbox or PSN have. Having in-game rewards for them would still be fine as many achievements in centralized achievement systems still give in-game rewards like "Talented Builder" in Fortnite gives a banner or "Cheating Death" in Minecraft Bedrock gives you an emote.

Oo new video game analysis series to binge, hell yeah

Clearly this man never held on to every blueprint in DK64 until the end of the game so you could hear "OH BANANA" 45 times in a row like I did.

5:15 the ''mini'' mushroom is ironically a big one

Odyssey Central: "this is a relaxing place to end the game" Dark side and Darker side: *exist*

Congrats for 80k, I think you'll make it to 100k subscribers unitl march!

That’s it? The biggest flaw is a bunch of achievements and the time it takes to talk to Toadette? That is only a flaw for completionists and not even a major one.

Love your vids!

This game felt like what happens if Ubisoft had their way with Mario haha!

side note: while there are mummies in the Knuckotech (I spelled that wrong for sure,) if you go back to the boss arena in the Sand Kingdom, the mummies are actually there, nice piece of consistancy

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I see that Toadette has taken lessons from Mr. Medal in Pokémon Black/White 2. Aka the "oops I accidentally clicked left while healing my Pokémon and now have to sit through minutes of dialog" guy.

8:36 AYOO WHAT THE FUUU

I definetely agree with you on Profasia Gamer. I don't watch much Nintendo content just so that he, and others like him don't show up in my recommended, and spoil a game that I've been looking foward to playing.

28:29 I'm a little confused. The tier list shows Mario Kart tracks & Mario Odyssey worlds mixed together in the same list. Did I miss something?

Achievements and other particular moons and moon types are some of the main reasons I think the 503 run rather than the 880 run is how to enjoy the game.

I like how toadette gives the stars in that castlr to mario and she also does that in super mario party & mario party superstars, i like that bit of unity

4:57 I’m glad we all share a hatred for ProsafiaGaming’s thumbnails

In my opinion, motion controls being the best way to play is my least favorite thing

How do you do the spin groundpound so freaking fast? Your compass doesn't even move..

Man I love all these Mario Odyssey videos you make, your writing is great and I like how you can be very critical about something you really love. Excellent work

The big problem is that the Toadette moons ARE moons, they are the main collectable of the game and as such, can't be actual challenges because then you could collect every moon in the game, but then not get 100% because you can't beat darkside with the invisibility cap on. If they had any other type of meaningful reward for the player, or heck if the Switch itself had an achievement system like xbox, that would open the door for them to actually go all out but as it stands they were kind of forced to take the route they did.

8:35 amongus really did ruin the word suspicious 😂😭

another new channel to scratch my video essay format media critique itch? *sigh* *subs*

This is a cool video, subbing rn.

Did you know the Tanooki tail tree tail is a "bench"? If you stand on the middle of it, Mario will sit down. Just thought I'd share that

The inflection of your voice going down at the end of every sentence is so hard to unhear 😅

The prosafia gaming comment was out of left field, yet 100% valid-

Congrats on 100k later today or tomorrow, I reckon!

I think the one at a time moon issue you have with toadette is caused by every moon having its own title. So if someone wants to make a screenshot of obtaining a specific moon you need to have that animation play for every single moontitle

When I was unlocking all the toadette moons I just took my joycon with me and made dinner while reapedly hitting the a button

would love to see you do a breakdown of the different biomes of Terraria and put them in a tier list!

You should definitely know about Mushroom Kingdom much earlier in the game when you go through the painting to get the star at Yoshi's house. Anyway, the main idea for Mushroom Kingdom is that it's kind of a post-game hub, which is why it has all this repetition. I think its greatest strength is that it tells you right away that there's more game after you beat Bowser. Like, you're not "going back" to get the last things you missed; there's just more actual game and you're not done yet. I think this is a genius idea. I can't think of any other game that has done this (but I haven't played everything out there so who knows). First, the kingdom is a post-game area. That's not that uncommon. But second, the kingdom is *easy* and *interesting*. This immediately clues you in that you should actually go and explore this because it's gonna be interesting. It's not the super-hard boss rush mode or the crazy optional challenge. Everyone who manages to do the game's main ending is going to get something out of the Mushroom Kingdom. The Mario series tried a post-game with I think Super Mario Galaxy 2, where you could play as Luigi and get all the green stars, secondary challenges in each level. 3D Land had basically the entire game remixed. 3D World had some very hard challenges remixing other levels (but also World Crown and I don't need the flashbacks, thanks). But Odyssey makes it quite clear that you ought to keep playing after the credits, not because there's extra stuff to do but because you want to explore this new place. There *is* extra stuff to do, of course. There are all the moon cubes that turn into challenge levels. And there's Dark Side and Darker Side. But Mushroom Kingdom isn't those things; it's an easy level that's just asking to be explored, much like you explored the outside of Peach's castle back in Super Mario 64, not because the game was telling you to do it but because you wanted to see what was there. The Mushroom Kingdom is genius; it's a *new* post-game space to explore that isn't just a crazy hard challenge but has easy objectives to keep you in the game. That's very special.

I still have yet to beat this game....I need to get back on it.

30 minute Odyssey Central video about Mario Odyssey? Don't mind if I do!

I LOVED the Jingle that it made and sat through all 61 Moons happy the whole way through.

Pokemon BW2 fans with the medals: First time?

15:36 i never knew this was a hint art for an actual moon all this time i thought it was a hint for that peach was in cap kingdom

If I can make a suggestion for outlining your videos: You mentioned that there was a flaw at the very beginning, then discussed the Mushroom kingdom for 19 minutes, then came back to the flaw. It's like I was watching two different videos. Instead, say that you're going to analyze the mushroom kingdom first, and that'll naturally lead to discussing the flaw. I spent 19 minutes thinking the entire mushroom kingdom was the flaw.

Hey I’m so sorry I feel like the biggest idiot rn but how do you get yoshis tongue to stick to the floor like you do at 12:40 ?

Tbh I found it kinda satisfying seeing all those moons flowing in by toadette lol

Spoilers for sunshine kinda (not really): they did the achievement system better (although it was actually blue coins) where they gave you all the shines you should get when you get enough blue coins

In my Opinion I think You Should Cover Seaside Next, As Even Though It Being An Underwater Level It Is Still One Of The Favorites Amongst Many People, And Is In My Opinion The Best Underwater Stage In Any Mario Game Period, So Maybe You Can Talk About How It Is Stands Out From The Others.