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Super Meteor 650 Suspensions BROKE | ZANA Saddle Stay? Warranty?

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Must watch video before you buy a saddle stay.
I had a strange experience. The rear suspensions on my Super Meteor broke. Literally broke into two pieces. Many suspects, some learning, who's responsible? Jury is still out - let's figure in the comments.
I'm just a consumer here, trying to find out WHAT exactly led to this. Any experts, engineers - please do chime in.

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@gertk9633 3 месяца назад

To sum up this topic for everone who is looking for a saddle stay and is now unsure: 1) it seems that the Zana saddle stay restricted the movement of the upper suspension (light grey cap) which led to unintended forces breaking the suspension rod. 2) if you have an other model check if it is as close to the shock as the Zana one - if not, everthing should be okay and this is probably the reason, that there are no incidents with other saddle stays mounted to this bolt. 3) generally, the mounting of saddle stays on the upper suspension bolt shouldn't be a problem if the bolt is mounted with the correct torque. The load forces of the saddle stay are rather small compared to the suspension operating forces. So there should be plenty of safety margin. The bolt and surface (frame) under the bolt head, are not moving parts, so the (moving) suspension shouldn't be affected by it. This mounting concept on the upper suspension bolt is also used by the original royal enfield saddle stay on the interceptor. You can look it up on their website for the interceptor accessories. So it should not be a no-go, to mount there something and therefore I decided to buy a saddle stay (not the Zana) which mounts to this bolt but with enough clearance to the suspension.

@autorevvv 3 месяца назад

This is a super summarization, thanks so much! I do see the level of torque on the mount as a potential reason for the suspension rod to break. Having said that, isn't it just safer to have a saddle stay that does NOT mount on the suspension at all?! There's options available that mount on the chassis hole (specifically designed to hold panniers) or the fender itself - two mounting points on either side. Thanks again! and do consider subbing! :-)

@gertk9633 3 месяца назад

@@autorevvv the bolt tightening torque and everything which is "clamped" by the bolt, does not introduce any torque on the suspension itself, because the suspension bolt hole has rotational freedom around the bolt. Same function as a ball bearing, which can not transfer torque. If this would not be the case, the suspension would always break even without saddle stay. When the swing arm moves up and down, the distance of the two suspension mounting points increases / decreases which compresses the suspension but always along the rod axis...all the forces which are not parallel to the axis of the suspension rod, only rotate the suspension around the mounting bolts but introduce no "bending load" on the suspension rod as you would need to hold it at least on one side against rotation to create a reaction load (newtons action and reaction law)...if you restrict this rotation (contact between saddle stay and upper suspension housing) you get the necessary reaction loads which cause a bending stress on the rod which it is not designed for. It has high strength against compressive or tensile loads but it is weak against bending loads. Like if you try to compress a pencil along the axis (not possible by hand) but bending it and breaking it is very easy. So bolt torque is only relevant for the bolt itself as long as the rotation of the suspension is not restricted. If the saddle stay introduces enough force that the bolt is damaged by shear stress, than it would be unsafe to mount there something...but the saddle stay loads are tiny compared to operational forces. (~few kg in the saddle bag compared to the max allowable load like rider, pillion and extra allowes luggage weight). I hope this explanation helps. But in the end you are still somehow right that if you leave this bolt alone, there will not be an issue there... I am just trying to say that when someone finds a cool saddle stay which mounts to this suspension bolt, it is wrong to say this is super unsafe and he/she should not buy it.... As long as it has not the same design flaw as the discusses one it should be okay - otherwise Royal enfield wouldn`t do it on the interceptor. Best Regards. :)

@gertk9633 3 месяца назад

And what I forgot to say is: do not tighten the bolt by hand without the right tool - if you overtorque it, you either damage the bolt or might "squeeze" the frame (it is a rather thin sheetmetal) into contact with the suspension, which again restricts the rotation and leads to the same issue as with the saddle stay. So be careful and check the mounting manual.

@autorevvv 3 месяца назад

@@gertk9633 Thanks for the explanation mate! And you're right, if there's a good / safe and sturdy stay which mounts on the suspension, one can atleast can go for it and be cautious about the steps you've mentioned. Pinning this comment thread!

@bakshi1330 4 месяца назад

A very well presented video and nicely worded too. Please accept my compliments. I am a proud owner of SM650 Celestial for almost a year having clocked 9000+ kms. My Red Bull has been to Ladakh and Gurez amongst other places, that too, Solo. No issues till date. Going with stock brake pads and chain set so far.....! All accessories fitted are genuine RE. Nothing aftermarket. Fellow Riders with decked-up bikes with after market fitments/accessories have been facing one or the other problem on a regular basis. I have by choice avoided extra lights, panniers/saddle bags and opted for a Guardian Gears 70L Tail Bag which has been a boon for me.

@autorevvv 4 месяца назад

Thank you so much for the encouraging words!! 😊 means a lot honestly! I am starting to see the advantages of staying stock as much as possible. After market accessories are not worth the frustration these issues bring. But I do already have a few custom bits and I’ll see how times go and then decide next steps. Btw I have the guardian gears saddle bags too - Mustang 50L and they seem pretty solid. Thanks again and lovely to have connected ☺️

@lubosruby4201 4 месяца назад

Your installarion seems to disable the free movement of the upper suspension fixing. Forces arising from it lead to the suspension piston breakage.

@autorevvv 4 месяца назад

Yes I wasn't sure about it while uploading but now with all these comments I know the saddle stay caused this. Thanks for your comment!!

@qaish81 4 месяца назад

Thanks Mate for bringing this to everyone’s notice, I hope all riders who have installed similar saddle stays will check for their setup & attentive to this kind of flaws. 🙏🏻

@autorevvv 4 месяца назад

Thanks brother - I hope this was a one off thing, but good to be cautious about these after-market fitments. I'm going to be careful going forward. Only if RE had their gorgeous looking panniers launched in time - none of this would happen.

@John--Jones 4 дня назад

This isn't the only instance where an aftermarket part or accessory has led to a significant issue with a Royal Enfield product. There was another case where the chassis of a new Himalayan 450 fractured into two pieces due to improper installation of an aftermarket leg guard. Royal Enfield should recognize that many of their customers choose their products specifically to customize them to their preferences. If the company continues to emphasize that “THIS IS NOT ISTALLED PROPERLY” or “THAT IS NOT INSTALLED PROPERLY,” it could undermine one of the key selling points of their vehicles.

@autorevvv 4 дня назад

Not the first instance, not the last :-) Yeah have heard about the Himalayan. I can see RE making efforts to add "customization" as part of factory options-first with Shotgun and now with Classic 350. Problem is, they are not focusing on their GMA and expanding that universe. SM panniers were launched more than a year later, when that happens, folks will go after market.

@vulcan3198 4 месяца назад

1. Zana should recall the saddle stay in question and replace them free of cost. 2. RE should ensure that all components /parts, maintenance kit & accessories are released simultaneously at the lauch of new bikes. During 1st serving of my RE SM650 only oil change & air filter cleaning were done due to non-availability of maintenance kit viz head gasket & air filter.

@autorevvv 4 месяца назад

Very good points mate. Especially RE ensuring all parts and accessories are available at launch. All of this happened because OEM panniers are still not around after 1 year. lol, same my kit was used in third service last week. Like I said somewhere else - RE = Good Products, Mediocre Service.

@joshuathomas8529 4 месяца назад

I went out and looked at my Super Meteor and discovered that the saddle stays where they attached to the top of the shocks are in contact with the shocks. This could prevent the movement of the shocks forcing the rod in the center of the shocks to bind instead of moving freely. I used a die grinder to remove all the meatal that was in contact with the top of the shocks. I put a small amount of paint on the top of the shocks. If there is stay metal to shock metal contact the paint should get scratched. If it gets scratched, I will remove more metal.

@autorevvv 4 месяца назад

THAT there is another reason to avoid saddle stays. The intrusion on the bolts with the suspensions itself is a big concern

@frankmarkovcijr5459 3 месяца назад

I have had saddle bag stays on my Sportster for 25 years and no problem with the shocks and they are original.

@autorevvv 3 месяца назад

Exactly - OEM accessories are the best and reliable. I will only go after market now as a last resort.

@aditayaKapoor 14 дней назад

Sir, you are absolutely right the 3rd parties are not patient enough to test their Accessories’s on any new bike. There is term called Metal fatigue which can be clearly seen in your case. We loved our bikes and need more careful while choosing any accessories. I researched a lot on my intercepter for saddle stay zeroed out with moto torque design. The bolts are on chassis and silence/footpeg. No stress on suspension. RE engineer were right regarding the bolt on suspension.

@autorevvv 13 дней назад

Can feel for the accessory makers too, if they take time to R&D and launch the product, another company will take away their customers. It’s a tricky world we live in! But yes I may have made some bad decisions here on selecting the product and the way it was installed

@aditayaKapoor 13 дней назад

@@autorevvv that’s the irony in India… sorry to say this I.e. starts ups half baked products. Company also does these things. In auto industry is very tough to make your position and further become harder to maintain.. but without proper R&D it eventually becomes failure

@autorevvv 11 дней назад

@@aditayaKapoor 100% true bro

@user-dz9fr6ch7r 13 дней назад

Hey Guys, I am also a Super Meteor 650 user and a mechanical engineer as well. What I suspect is the Bolts that were replaced at the time of saddle installation could be of longer lengths and of course should be after markets ones and the one that comes fitted is a RE part, so the modifications for saddle installation should have been made with RE technical support team who would have provided better guidance. Secondly, we all know Super Meteor 650 rear suspensions are hard and plus the highest Kerb weight Indian motorcycle so the shock loading that the new saddle attachment bolts was subjected should have been high and the bolt specs failed to meet the requirement and thus resulted in that failure. So, I recommend to keep it as original as possible any significant deviation please get in touch with #Royal Enfield technical support Team.

@autorevvv 13 дней назад

Totally agree with you mate. Very good points. I’ve learnt my lessons to keep it as stock as possible. Thanks for stopping by, please consider subbing 😊

@mohdanaskhan8926 4 месяца назад

Very similar thing happened to me - The front alloy on my Super Meteor 650 cracked after going over a broken brick at 50-60 kmph, just two days after taking delivery. The RE guys were shocked as they had never seen this on a Super Meteor, and after some back and forth and a strict Mail to RE, I got a so called "goodwill warranty" It's still in the service centre waiting for the alloy to arrive from past 9 days. Probably gonna get it tomorrow...

@autorevvv 4 месяца назад

That is a serious incident bro, hope you were alright when it happened. RE need to seriously focus on QC. I know someone in the group who’s SM had a complete engine failure within 3 months of buying. Sad. Take care mate and wishing you many happy and safe miles!!

@mohdanaskhan8926 4 месяца назад

@@autorevvv Thanks man, Got the bike today with the new front alloy (which obviously the RE guys scratched in installation), and I'm scared AF taking it over even minor road bumps.... Gonna get my No. Plate and Mini Apes installed tomorrow. Hope it's a smooth ride from here..🤞

@autorevvv 4 месяца назад

RE: Great Products, Clueless Service. Hoping no more hiccups for you man, ride safe and long!!

@dhairyagupta 15 дней назад

I suggest you a great upgrade for the Suprr Meteor: Sell it and buy a Vstrom 250. On a serious note, it's not fault of RE. 7 out of 9 bikes on my recent trip to Zanskar were RE. Meteor 350 - no issues. Also, these saddle stays etc - please do not use

@autorevvv 13 дней назад

Hey thanks mate, I love the utility and “do it all” nature of ADVs but not a fan of the way they look. Have been a Cruiser / Classic fan all along, so yeah besides Super Meteor not many options! When I can afford, I’ll go for a Bonneville ♥️

@AmitKhirodwala 4 месяца назад

Great video buddy, Never heard about such issue before. I booked one recently, and thank you for updating about the saddle stays, I will do my due diligence before getting any saddle stays. Also, RE should take care and focus accessories too. They are on the way to become one of the finest Indian motorcycle brand, or maybe they already are.

@autorevvv 4 месяца назад

Thanks mate. Congratulations on your buy!! It’s an amazing motorcycle but these quality issues need to be addressed. Good luck and wishing you many happy miles 😊

@Teacher-T-Thailand 5 дней назад

Hi Autorevvv. I did reply to your last comment. Not sure you’ve seen it. My mistake. Also my torque setting was wrong. It should be 45Nm not 18Nm as stated in my video. Good to hear Zana offered a free replacement. The Shotgun rear seat mounts exactly where the original Zana fitting fitted. All the best 🙏 Urgent Update - Meteor 650 rear shock Torque settings ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-4aenaS_tAKQ.html

@autorevvv 5 дней назад

Hi thanks yes saw your comment no problems! I’m going to take my SM to the service center this weekend to update the suspension settings. Will take it to 3 for now and see how it changes the dynamics.

@SuperSatz 4 месяца назад

The exact incident happened with me on my ride. I also had the same saddle stay from Zana. I was stranded on a highway due to this and had to tow my bike to a service centre. The Zana part is the reason as their fitting does impact the shocks . Better to go back to the saree guard as RE will always say that warranty is void if u use after market parts

@autorevvv 4 месяца назад

That makes it three of us! Thank you for sharing your inputs mate, it does confirm design flaw with Zana saddle stay! I’ve got the LCB that go on the chassis - I’ll see how this goes then maybe move to fender fittings like saree guard.

@johngault-9597 3 месяца назад

Simple test, ask Zana to share some time stamped videos on how they do repetitive load testing on the AF parts they sell, especially for newer bikes...thanks for sharing a useful and honest experience...ride safely brother.

@autorevvv 2 месяца назад

Thanks so much mate. I did reach out to Zana but did not hear back from them. Honestly, don;t have time to go back and forth with them on this. I accepted this as a bad decision I took to get the Zana stays and moving on from there with lessons! :-)

@abhishekroy910 16 дней назад

Made Like a Flower 🌻

@autorevvv 16 дней назад

Lovely!! 😁

@autorevvv 16 дней назад

and Gone with the Wind 😂

@abhishekroy910 16 дней назад

@@autorevvv lol that’s the 4 lakhs you shelled out 😛

@autorevvv 11 дней назад

@@abhishekroy910 😬😬😫

@EYMCRICKETSQUAD 4 месяца назад

Got the story and essence... But you have got calfs bro 😅😅

@autorevvv 4 месяца назад

Hahaha that was intentional flexing!! Was hoping someone noticed 😅

@satyakisaha2704 4 месяца назад

Thanks a lot for all the information I am thinking to buy aftermarket accessories as the panniers are still not available in the market

@autorevvv 4 месяца назад

Glad this was helpful mate. After-market saddle stay just make sure to buy that does not mount on the suspensions. OEM panniers are also available now but they're good for styling, not very practical and usable space is minimal. Good luck!

@Moz42 2 месяца назад

Hi there. Just looking at your photos of the broken end of the shaft, as a Metallurgist, I can see that there a distinct signs of metal fatigue that's been happens for a while. Then the final break, where the metal was quite thin by the time you hit the large pothole. As I can't see them closely and live, or conduct any test, however, I suspect that there may have been a fault in the shaft and the metal fatigue propagated from there until it finally let go, maybe exasperated by the stay. I have a Super meteor and recently replaced the shocks with YSS performance shocks, which made a huge difference to the ride. Anyhow, I glad you are OK and the issue is sorted by RE. Ride well. Cheers

@autorevvv 2 месяца назад

Hello, very helpful insights there and quite possibly the reason why this happened. I've too checked out the YSS shocks for the SM and was planning to get them after my stock setup runs out for another 10k kms. Is the ride quality less bumpy now at the rear? and does it affect handling by any chance? I take my SM on a lot of twisties here in India and enjoy leaning it in corners as much as a cruiser can lean :-D and with stock suspensions it handles very well. Let me know what your experience has been w.r.t handling / mild cornering.

@kautukpathak6676 4 месяца назад

You are a life saver ! I am going to get the zana saddle bag mount installed tomorrow on my super meteor 650. Will surely check that they are not on any moving parts ! Glad that RE replaced your suspension under warranty !!

@autorevvv 4 месяца назад

So glad to know mate! Just go with a thumb rule of not mounting anything on the suspension joints. Fenders / Chassis is fine. Goodluck and wishing you happy miles!!

@phillgeraldton 3 месяца назад

Thank you for an informative video. I own a 650 meteor here in Australia with just over 3500k notched up. The only after market gear I have fitted are Rhino Racing mufflers and a DNA filter kit. All other modification have been with genuine RE parts. Sorry to hear about your misfortune. Hopefully with it now repaired and you modifying your luggage racks, this will never happen again and you will continue with trouble free riding.

@autorevvv 3 месяца назад

Oh Rhinos are by far my best mod! I have the Ngage filter with to go with it. Haven’t been a problem yet. I’ve had another saddle stay now and this is working fine as of now. Safer bet as it does not mount on the suspension unlike previous ones. Happy with it! Thanks for stopping by and wish you have many more sweet sounding miles on your SM ♥️

@nka3484 15 дней назад

I would suggest looking into reputable international brands like Givi for motorcycle accessories. They undergo rigorous testing despite being more expensive. I personally have Givi accessories on my bike.

@autorevvv 15 дней назад

Man Givi Monokey is my absolute favourite set of panniers. There’s a video Hitchcock motorcycles did and love every bit about those. Just saving up man 😬

@bikemance 4 месяца назад

Thanks buddy for sharing. Even I upload RE SM650 videos (issues). Unfortunately we’ve faced some. Great video. Wish you all the best. Sharing this with my SM 650 groups. We know the bike is super fun to ride, but some issues are concerning. Anyway.. Happy safe riding! Cheers bhai! 😊

@autorevvv 4 месяца назад

Lovely to hear from you bhai, thanks for the kind words. I can’t agree more it’s a beautiful piece of machine, only if RE handles it better and treats it like a class product it is, addresses issues and makes the god damn accessories available!!! 😃😄

@bikemance 4 месяца назад

⁠@@autorevvvWord. Can totally resonate. Subscribing. All the best for your channel. See if you like mine.

@autorevvv 4 месяца назад

Wow just saw your channel, you wont believe I have watched your videos before, the service center one and the breakdown video... Damn, it is a small cool community of SM owners! Subbed!!

@bikemance 4 месяца назад

@@autorevvv arrreee so sweet and kind of you mere bhai. What an awesome feeling. And you know after I posted your video in SM650 groups we had good discussion on points you’ve told. Big thanks to you from all of us. 🙏🙏😇 Thanks so much for subscribing to my Bikemance channel. 🙏🥰

@autorevvv 4 месяца назад

Anytime bhai.. ride safe and get well soon, saw the biker in hospital video!!

@TriumphRascal 4 месяца назад

The OEM panniers and fixing brackets will be available from this month (April 2024). I spoke to Royal Enfield at the Motorcycle Live Show in London in February and they told me this information. I ordered the RE panniers and hope to have them within the next week or so. I hope you manage to sort out an alternative and wish you luck with your suspension.

@autorevvv 4 месяца назад

Man that’s good news. Saw it in our group today as well. Hope it comes soon, I’ve been wanting those OEM panniers from day 1. Thanks so much and you have many happy miles!!

@rajivlyall8666 3 месяца назад

I have been using Givi stays and panniers on my Celestial Red and have travelled over 12K kms, having travelled from Meerut to Kanyakumari to Kerala to Goa (through 10 states) and another Astral Ride to Kutch. Apart from the stiff rear suspension have yet to experience what you describe. However, your experience adds to my wisdom. Thank you for the same.

@autorevvv 3 месяца назад

Thanks for sharing mate. Givi stays fit on the fenders (og saree guard fitment) and hence the best and safest option. You use them for a million miles and it won’t hurt your suspension. My Zana stays were bolted on the shocks and that’s why this ordeal 🥺 BTW me too planning a Munnar trip very soon!!

@arkodebsaha 4 месяца назад

Hello from a fellow SM 650 rider from Pune, also from your video I reckoned that we have probably crossed path during the anniversary ride as I too had the reporting in point near BBC, Baner. Was sad to see the ordeal you faced and completely agree with the rear suspension issue that most of us SM650 users are facing. While the logic of static pannier mounted on moving suspension head seems probable but still in no way the snapping of suspension rod is acceptable. Are there no precedence of such mounts and if there are , are all of them breaking apart😮. RE should really think hard on their SM650 portfolio !!

@autorevvv 4 месяца назад

Hey there oh yes we would have probably crossed paths that day!! So while uploading I thought I was the only one whose suspension broke. I found 2 other in the comment section who had a similar incident, both cases had Zana saddle stay mounted on shocks. While most saddle stays are mounted at the same spot, it seems it’s Zana’s stays that are causing this. But equally confused then why would others not break. Regardless, saddle stay or not, suspension snapping in two is very strange and I was lucky to not have been doing triple digit speeds at the time. Anyway, let’s catch up on a ride sometime!! The wound and the ointment is the same for us bikers 🥹😃

@shon79able Месяц назад

You might wanna consider upgrading to the Hagons or the YSS aftermarket’s

@autorevvv Месяц назад

I will upgrade to YSS soon. Waiting to complete a year at least with these replacements.

@chandrasekharps8955 Месяц назад

Very well presented video

@autorevvv Месяц назад

Thanks mate 😊

@sukan747 2 месяца назад

Thanks for informative video. Apart from the shocks, are there any other issues we should be aware off, and are you still totally satisfied with the bike? Thanks a ton Sir

@autorevvv 2 месяца назад

Hey glad you found the video useful. Apart from this incident, I am absolutely happy with the motorcycle. There are some known issues like low GC, heating, bumpy ride on bad roads and quick wearing off brake pads (in 4-5k kms). But even with all these issues, its a beautiful machine to own and ride!

@sukan747 2 месяца назад

@@autorevvv 🙏🙏keep posting - no bike is perfect and your kind honest feedback is a crucial factor for me to get the 650 in a few months. 🙏🙏

@autorevvv 2 месяца назад

@@sukan747 Thanks so much mate! All the best with your decision!

@jatinluthra8658 4 месяца назад

I haven't had good experience with the service center guys or even the engineers for SM650 from RE. My SM keeps going left when I leave the handlebar while riding. They kept my bike for 3-4 days and finally said it was because of the aftermarket backrest I had installed, which is again, Zana. Even when I told them that it was like this from day 1. They sent my back after removing the backrest, with the problem still being there. So for any problem, their first reaction is to put it on the aftermarket accessory. So I doubt that led to your suspension issue as well.

@autorevvv 4 месяца назад

I swear my Thunderbird had this same issue of steering misalignment. Never could get fixed by RE, eventually I learnt to live with it. Your Zana backrest causing steering issue is too much, I can;t imagine how backrest could affect that, They are clearly bullshitting. In my case, I do think maybe RE could be right because this saddle stay was bolted right on the suspensions...So yeah but I totally agree with you on RE pushing the blame on everything else most times. Ride safe buddy and go see one of those legendary "bullet" mechanics in your area. These guys are sometimes way better RE service guys.

@jatinluthra8658 4 месяца назад

@@autorevvv That's so right. And I'm lucky to have found a great RE meachnic recently, after having owned an RE for over 12 years now.

@devarena9130 19 дней назад

I have super meteor from since 8 months with no problems probably because I have not installed any accessories other than RE ORIGINAL Don’t modify re if it’s not needed absolutely

@autorevvv 18 дней назад

Couldn't agree more mate! I've learnt my lessons, upgrade / modify only if its necessary. And try and stick as much as possible to OEM accessories. Wish you many more miles and years with your SM!

@joshuathomas8529 4 месяца назад

Hi from Idaho Falls Idaho USA. I don't have the Zana racks I have a different brand that says Royal Enfield on the bags. They hook on to the outside of the shocks just like the Zana ones. Hear are my questions for you. 1. When your shocks broke did the bolt that holds the shock on the top brake? 2 Did the metal around the bolt attached to the frame of the bike or any of the weld's brake? 4 How much weight was on your racks when the shocks failed? 3 Have you noticed more, less, or no difference in movement of the top of the shocks now that its back in stock configuration? In my opinion Royal Enfield is trying to pass the buck. If there is no difference in the movement at the top of the shock with or without the staddle stay in place, then you can rule out over torquing of bolt due to the saddle stay being the cause of the failure. If the bolt was not broken, then you can also rule out over torquing and weight placed on the bolt being the cause. Most saddle stays on the market attach in the same way as the Zana ones. If the bolt did not fail, and the welds that hold the shock to the top of the bike did not fail then the shock failed due to manufacturing defect. The act of going over a big bump may have been the cause not the saddle rack. The only reason I could think that the sadle stays would have caused this would be if they restrict the movement of the shock in its mount Unless the bolts broke. If the bolts broke, then you could blame the extra weight of the stays.

@autorevvv 4 месяца назад

Hey mate, thanks for stopping by. Shock mount bolts did not break. Welds did not break. The cartridge inside the suspensions broke and the black cowl over the suspensions came off. The silver part remained attached to the chassis. No weight on the saddle stays when this happened. No saddle bags / panniers. I was riding solo with just a backpack. That only leaves to manufacturing defect as per your post. So it could be that. But I dont think the actual incident of hitting the bump caused this, some wear/tear was building over time and hitting the bump was just the breaking point. Either way - RE should be held accountable to a large extent.

@joshuathomas8529 4 месяца назад

@autorevvv Thanks for the reply. Based on what happened to you I am fairly certain that my fix should keep this from happening. Only time will tell. Do you have any estimate of how many KM's or miles you did with the saddle stays before the shocks broke?

@autorevvv 4 месяца назад

4 months, ~3,000 kms with the saddle stays. RE guys refused to put the Zana stays back on after shocks replacement. Got myself an LCB saddle stay now which mounts on the chassis hole as pointed in the video. Love your fix though, and the way you're getting it done yourself. I'd love to get to that point, I'm too afraid now to get my hands dirty fearing I'll make things worse lol!

@joshuathomas8529 4 месяца назад

@autorevvv I spent 4 years in the Idaho National guard working on military vehicles. I am currently a professional welder and metal fabricator. When something brakes I go to work finding a fix. I will admit Mort electrical problems give me a headache. Thanks for bringing this issue to the attention of the Supper meteor community I am sure between thr two of us we can safe people some frustration. I will put out a video on the fix for this shortly.

@autorevvv 4 месяца назад

Lovely to meet you Joshua, subbed to your channel! Will wait for the fix video on this issue.

@Preetinder_Ramana_Dhaliwal 4 месяца назад

Mine left shock broke similarly. RE denied warranty. Had the same Zana saddle stay as urs. The dealer owner, Manmohan Autos Chandigarh was however very kind and replaced under goodwill n zero cost.

@autorevvv 4 месяца назад

Thank you so much for sharing your story. This confirms that the saddle stay had a big role to play here. Glad your shocks were also replaced without cost!

@punyendra123 4 месяца назад

The only reason I could think of is the angle created which might restrict the linear movement of the shock and putting pressure at the thin point, leading it to break due to a bend angle … and hence the outward break … might be wrong though …

@autorevvv 4 месяца назад

That is a NEW line of thought and seems very much a possibility of them breaking. Especially the part where they came off outwards.

@vincenttech2831 4 месяца назад

It's a shame that even after 1 year of launch, RE has failed to provide OEM panniers for their flagship vehicle and people have to go to third party brands who are making hell of money by selling cheap products at high prices. Guess, we should make a group of SM 650 owners and protest it in a civilized way so that our request is heard by RE big bosses. Hope you are not facing any issues with Rhino racing exhaust. Saw some users posted videos facing problems with their Gasket, rocker cover for exhausts getting burned or damaged after installing Rhino racing exhausts. I want to go for Rhino racing but still having second thoughts. Please share your feedback regarding the exhausts.

@autorevvv 4 месяца назад

It really is a shame mate. Not just panniers, they were also supposed to launch a raised touring handlebar. Not come. Part of a group of SM owners, done all kinds of protest against RE, nothing works. They have a templatised response for everything. Rhino Racing exhausts are pretty good. Opt for the old design and insist on stainless steel. Only issue I had was they first delivered a mild steel version which caught rust within weeks. I complained and they shipped a Stainless Steel version at no extra cost. The SS version is fine and the sound output is too good, not very loud but a beautiful bassy rumble.

@vincenttech2831 4 месяца назад

@@autorevvv Their sound output is very good indeed. Thank you for sharing. Wish you all the very best. Drive safe and take care......🤝

@autorevvv 4 месяца назад

@@vincenttech2831 thanks mate, wishing you the most pleasant rides!!

@motomoksh 3 месяца назад

very informative video . I still didn't get the exact reason . can you suggest that is the same logic applicable on auto engine racks as I have recently purchased them

@autorevvv 2 месяца назад

Thanks mate, glad you found this useful. The exact reason is still unknown. Possible explanations are: 1) My Zana saddle stays were mounted on the suspensions (on the inside) with other 2 mounting points on fender and chassis. Moving and still parts wearing could have resulted in this. Fact that there are a few more people with Zana saddle stay have reported the same in the comments here could mean it's a specific ZANA issue. 2) The torque used to mount the saddle stay on the suspensions could have caused this. Tighter the mounting, more chances of it affecting the movement of the suspensions 3) Bolting the saddle stay on the inside of suspension joint (this is what the RE guys told me) caused this. Whereas bolting on the outside of the suspensions - how your Autoengina mounts will not have the same risk. But I've heard from other experts in my group that it doesn't matter if its mounted on the inside or outside So, my take away was - don't get a stay that mounts on the suspensions at all, why take the risk?! So i picked the LCB which mounts on the chassis and fender. You take a judgement call basis all the presented facts / opinions. Hope this helped.!

@SM650_V 4 месяца назад

Thanks mate for making this video!

@autorevvv 4 месяца назад

Glad it could be helpful 😊

@johnharris7353 10 дней назад

There's a reason Honda's cost a bit more!

@johnharris7353 10 дней назад

Replying to my own comment. This junk Amazon tablet doesn't let me edit. I follow RE closely and I've been shocked by the unheard of catastrophes that happen to them...frames coming apart, new motors blowing up, now the rear shocks breaking off! Its almost hilarious ! What's next ? Lol !!!

@autorevvv 10 дней назад

Hey thanks for writing. Yes Hondas are better, overall quality and built, notches above RE. But here in India, we don’t have a lot of Honda options. The closest I can think of is the Africa twin or the newly launched NX500. And those are ADVs. For someone who prefers the cruiser styled motorcycles, there isn’t actually many options available and it all comes down to RE stable. Although RE has had a few hiccups with parts quality, I wouldn’t still write them off completely.

@sandy30634 2 месяца назад

zana fucked up big time, clearly the saddle stays are hitting the top of the shockers. RE official panniers are available now and come with bushes for all the bolts and are a very good fit.

@autorevvv 2 месяца назад

Yeah doesn’t seem like Zana tested their stays well. RE panniers looks great and fit very well. My only concern is practical usage, the compartments look pretty small to carry decent amount of luggage.

@sandy30634 2 месяца назад

@@autorevvv yes they are small but can carry enough for 3-4 days for the rider, the real pro is that it doesn't effect the riding dynamics because of the light weight, the biggest pro imo is the aesthetics and the rigorous R&D by the company.

@autorevvv 2 месяца назад

@@sandy30634 Have to agree with your points mate! Probably the best panniers out there right now

@Vikrum_ 4 месяца назад

Oh no

@autorevvv 4 месяца назад

😞🥺

@whammo11224 4 месяца назад

Let's all agree that Corporations will scam you anywhere in the world! Of course they weren't going to cover the warranty! That's the reason I take all of the stuff off the bike when I bring it to service, removing any excuses!

@autorevvv 4 месяца назад

Absolutely!!

@ami.7 4 месяца назад

Summary : it caused coz of the aftermarket saddle stay which was directly connected to suspension.

@autorevvv 4 месяца назад

Yes that seems like the only legit cause after reading all the comments. Thanks for stopping by mate, consider subbing! 😊

@ashishpandey2000 3 месяца назад

Mail Sid, it will be replaced FOC

@autorevvv 2 месяца назад

Hahaha, I had the draft ready!!! But fortunately, the RE guys did replace the suspensions FOC under warranty. So no hard feelings!! :-D

@abdulrahmanfarooqi2293 4 месяца назад

the angle, its awkward and tend to exert torque on the shockers.

@autorevvv 4 месяца назад

Yes that too. And mostly just fitting the saddle stay on the suspensions caused this.

@emperorofdarkness3096 15 дней назад

One word You can't trust RE Every problem with their product they are ready to blame after market stuffs installed by customer

@autorevvv 15 дней назад

Almost Always!

@PRADEESHKNAIR-vw8wv 3 месяца назад

Good info bro 👍

@autorevvv 3 месяца назад

Thanks bro! Glad it was helpful

@mayanksati1842 4 месяца назад

What kind of seat are you using on the Super meteor?

@autorevvv 4 месяца назад

I had the standard seats as stock. Then changed to touring seats.

@prateeksharma8758 4 месяца назад

Best Informative Video...😊

@autorevvv 4 месяца назад

Thanks so much mate!

@Teacher-T-Thailand 26 дней назад

Hello. Asking permission to use some of your video, to make another to investigate the reason if that’s ok? I will put links to your original video if you give permission. Thank you in advance 🙏

@autorevvv 26 дней назад

Absolutely Sir, go ahead! I’m your subscriber, happy to help in anyway 😊

@Teacher-T-Thailand 26 дней назад

@@autorevvv Thank you so much. It’s an interesting story. But you are the on,y one I am aware of, unless you know any more?

@autorevvv 26 дней назад

@@Teacher-T-Thailand When this happened, I thought mine was one-off. But see comments, at least two other people have reported the same, and Zana stays in both cases.

@mumbaiprimerealty5789 4 месяца назад

Hey I book 650 meteor wat to do is it right to choose after watching this video

@mumbaiprimerealty5789 4 месяца назад

Yet to deliverd next month

@autorevvv 4 месяца назад

Its a beautiful machine, recommended. Just avoid after-market accessories like saddle stays.

@Preetinder_Ramana_Dhaliwal 4 месяца назад

The Zana stays here are the culprit .... they have a manufacturing defect n touch the top of shocker preventing its complete articulation .... Thumpers Caffe Chandigarh tried his best to help me by connecting with Zana chaps for amendments/replacement but no avail .... poor managment and customer service Zana Motor Cycles .... Shame ! Eventually I had to get it redesigned and move the saddle stay rod connecting to shocker to Chassis.

@autorevvv 4 месяца назад

This is an eye opener. It does seem like a manufacturing defect on Zana’s part. Having discussion on our WhatsApp SM groups. Thank you for sharing your inputs mate. Wishing you many happy miles on your SM, ride safe.

@krishtyagi 4 месяца назад

Such a beauty beast lost a lot of trust. I own sold my Himalayan within the three months after so many arguments with ASM due to quality of product w.r.t. harness wire, ECU, meter and most important brake and braking calipers which failed many times during long ride and I lost my confidence over Royal Enfield product. I sent mail about the same but everytime faced ASM BLbad attitude as service center helpless to support in this regard without approval from RE ASM. Thanks for your valuable review to make my mind not to buy.

@autorevvv 4 месяца назад

@@krishtyagi that’s a terrible experience mate, feel for you. We all just living in hope that their service and spares situations get better. Glad this video helped you in some way to decide! Wishing you the best!!

@sunnydaytodayy 4 месяца назад

Great video bro

@autorevvv 4 месяца назад

Thanks bro - please do share with people who might find this useful!!

@AviralRai-br3kr 4 месяца назад

Please do chain clean and lube first...

@autorevvv 4 месяца назад

Hahaha sure Sir, good advice!

@varundesai6616 4 месяца назад

Bruh RE really be messing around too much 😂

@autorevvv 4 месяца назад

Look out for yours - you’re in RE fraternity now 😬

@amTourer 4 месяца назад

Jst namesake super byk.. QC of RE really need some improvements 🙃😌

@autorevvv 4 месяца назад

To an extent yes! but it seems like this incident was caused by Zana saddle stay interfering with the shocks movement. But it is completely REs fault for not launching genuine accessories soon that’s why people go aftermarket

@ChandanGorai-qt5yg 4 месяца назад

saddle stay ke wajah se tut gaya. mere sath v hua hai yeh chiz thunderbird me.

@autorevvv 4 месяца назад

Haan bhai wahi lag raha hai isliye RE ko zyada gaali nahi diya

@Ghissing-Dhim 3 месяца назад

Bhai the panniers RE had shown on the launch of the bike is available now. Just been about 2 weeks. Contact ru-vid.com/show-UCF74esVV2Car8zSPQmZZO5w Secondly some of my friends have replaced the rear suspension with the ones from Thunderbird. I beleive it fits and is much comfy than originals... Keep riding and love your SM 650

@autorevvv 3 месяца назад

Oh yes they have been launched, quite a coincidence, I made this video and within a week I started seeing OEM panniers! :-) Do you like those panniers? I love the design and how they're neatly tucked in to the sides on the SM, BUT - don't seem too practical. Storage space is less, and internal layout isn't great to carry even 3-4 days of luggage. I've seen the video about TB 500 suspensions - looks decent, might get those or YSS ones after I complete 20k kms.. Thanks so much for your comment bro, I love my SM too :-D

@Ghissing-Dhim 3 месяца назад

Yes bro.. these were the original designed and seen during the launch. Yea agree that volume is compromised but made for each other.. #KeepRiding 🏍🏍