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SuperHouse #36: 3D printed PCB workstation made with acupuncture needles 

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Connecting test probes to PCBs can be difficult when the contact points are very small, or when you need to keep the probes in place while using your hands to run tests or use a computer. Normal test probes on multimeters, oscilloscopes, and other equipment has to be held in place.
This amazing 3D-printed PCB workstation uses acupuncture needles as test probes. The test probes are attached to adjustable arms that can hold them in position on the device under test.
Print the parts and make one for your own lab.
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@MikhailMoskalev
@MikhailMoskalev 6 месяцев назад
Using acupuncture needles as probes is fruitful idea. It's thin, sharp, resilient and long.
@AndrewDanne
@AndrewDanne 4 года назад
Every Tech lab and every Tech college needs these for their work bench Awesome project and excellent ideas.
@alleycatjack4562
@alleycatjack4562 3 года назад
This is absolutely brilliant. Thank you for sharing it with us!
@CXensation
@CXensation 4 года назад
This is a genious tool! Actually it resembles the bed-of-nails principle used for automated test probing in factory runs of assembled PCB's. I used to a be programmer on such equipment and had to to build the bed-of-nails fixtures too. Never thought of this idea for a manual workbench tool. Thanks for the video - pretty cool 😃
@bm830810
@bm830810 4 года назад
don't want to build this for now but learnt a few things anyway, you are a really good engineer. thanks for sharing your knowledge and thought process
@UnexpectedMaker
@UnexpectedMaker 4 года назад
What an awesome project! Super super clever! Thanks for sharing it in such detail.
@valcob6617
@valcob6617 4 года назад
Awesome ! Very nice little helper, like it and already printing )) THANKS for sharing!
@gorillaau
@gorillaau 4 года назад
Hey Jon. This project idea is awesome, as components continue to get smaller. Great video
@2vookkme536
@2vookkme536 4 года назад
finally real use case for acupuncture needle
@smeeegheeeed1
@smeeegheeeed1 4 года назад
Love this, great video!
@simonstergaard
@simonstergaard 4 года назад
This is an exceptionally well designed probing kit. When you assemble this you get the feeling that a lot of work and thought have gone in to this. All parts are open source, so if you want to print it your self, you are free to do so. The probes are made of copper wound accupuncture needles, which you can get for cents on ebay or ali. The print quality is excelent. Everything could be assembled as recieved. No need for sanding or the like. Just follow the assembly video, and all will be smooth.
@chrisw1462
@chrisw1462 4 года назад
Also. that is super cool. Anyone who has to test surface mount boards needs something like this.
@steverobbins4872
@steverobbins4872 4 года назад
This looks like a nice little probe station for beginners. But there are at least two major issues. First, if you wan't to test multiple boards you have to move the probes out of the way to change boards, then move them back again. A normal probe station has the probes attached (typically with strong magnets, not wing nuts) to a U-shaped platform. The open end of the 'U' faces front, and a hing on the back couples the platform to the base. So you can just lift it like a toilet seat, change boards, and lower it again. The second problem is poor grounding, which explains why there is so much ringing in your waveforms. For this I would recommend the U-shaped hinged platform be metal, or at least have copper tape covering its top surface. You connect this to the ground in your DUT (perhaps have a few probes that are just for ground) so the platform essentially becomes part of the ground plate. You can then connect your scope ground leads to the platform. But this was a very inspiring video. If I had time (which I never do) I would try to design my own version.
@SuperHouseTV
@SuperHouseTV 4 года назад
If you do get time to do your own version incorporating those changes, please post about it because I'd love to see it. There's been some discussion on the SuperHouse Discord server about doing versions of the probes that can be clipped up out of the way and then put back into the same place repeatedly, for batch processing of boards. For that sort of job I'd normally make a custom jig though, this is more for one-off work.
@RoadRunnerMeep
@RoadRunnerMeep 4 года назад
I'm going to have to watch this entire series now I think :)
@lucianocosta4426
@lucianocosta4426 3 года назад
sensacional! muito obrigado! from Brazil
@federicoleoni5121
@federicoleoni5121 4 года назад
So simple, so efficient. I need those needles NOW. :P
@ErikBriggs
@ErikBriggs 4 года назад
Very cool! Another option, instead of modeling your own in fusion360 would have been to change the scale of JUST those pieces in your slicer. Setting them to 101% scale or 102 would have probably done the exact same thing, and saved you hours. I'm going to be printing my own tonight.
@gregclare
@gregclare 4 года назад
Wow! I literally just had my first experience with an acupunture needle (my Physio did some "dry needling"). Even having handled a needle in it's tube, I never made the connection with the possibility of using the needle as a fine test probe. Perhaps because I don't like needles? LOL But, what a brilliant idea!
@sjonjones4009
@sjonjones4009 4 года назад
A suggestion: Upgrade the wing nuts to thumb nuts. Thanks for sharing!
@tullgutten
@tullgutten 4 года назад
i think this looks cool, but might bee a good idea to use shielded cables, like thise super thin and flexible coax cables used in DAB radio antennas :)
@MkmeOrg
@MkmeOrg 4 года назад
Very cool!
@kaosthecosmicreviewer1055
@kaosthecosmicreviewer1055 4 года назад
very tempted to build something like this for my workshop, but I might redesign it slightly
@unodos1821
@unodos1821 4 года назад
Perfecto!
@dmitriymendelevich2064
@dmitriymendelevich2064 4 года назад
Great India! Nice doing. I use orthophosphoric acid to solder steel and copper. Very convenient.
@daveholden3935
@daveholden3935 4 года назад
I've just printed out the various parts and found, as you explained, that the crane bases could be loose in the platform. So, before inserting the crane vertical component, I drilled a 2.5mm hole - from the top - using the existing screw hole as a pilot, and tapped the holes to take M3 bolts. Using 20mm dia printed washers (metal would do) and using M3 x 12mm bolts from the underside of the platform screwed up in to the crane bases. Result - total control of the 'stiffness' of the cranes.
@darthjeder
@darthjeder 4 года назад
Greetings. Thanks for sharing a video about this device. I bought some tweezers with ceramic tips for building coils for my e-cigs. These only cost a few bucks and are heat resistant and non-conductive. godspeed
@geek65535
@geek65535 4 года назад
I suspect that if you had put the screw into the base, then it would have spread the plastic out a bit, making it fit tighter (and keeping you from having to redesign the part).
@SuperHouseTV
@SuperHouseTV 4 года назад
I didn't think of that! Very clever :-) I did put the screw into one base but I may not have used the right size.
@ThereminHero
@ThereminHero 4 года назад
@@SuperHouseTV hah I was about to comment with this same thought. Although looking at the thickness of the peg it might end up cracking the plastic rather than expanding it, unless you use a material like nylon. A better design might be a slightly oversized doughnut peg with a slot cut out of it, so that it can be compressed slightly to fit. Edit: ah maybe not
@radarmusen
@radarmusen 4 года назад
The first long board could be mounted 45 degrees in the base, then there are a little more space to go with. Nice universal tool.
@nexes-forty-four2381
@nexes-forty-four2381 4 года назад
No one has mentioned it here so far, and it may be obvious, but in addition to testing and data gathering for reverse engineering purposes, the application I was thinking about when I first encountered Giuseppe's design was flashing Tasmota (and the like) on smart devices without headers. Smart light bulbs are a notorious example. Note for the case of a bulb shape some different and custom part holders other than the PCB clamps shown here would be nice to have.
@SuperHouseTV
@SuperHouseTV 4 года назад
Yes, that was the first thing I thought of when I saw it, because I had just been flashing some S26 smart plugs and something like this would be very helpful.
@markjacksonpulver3546
@markjacksonpulver3546 4 года назад
DIY wafer probe. Nice work.
@garygeisick7446
@garygeisick7446 4 года назад
I use Repetier host to print, which has the ability to resize larger or smaller on any or all axis of any stl part that you want to print, would have saved a remodel of the part, looks like an awesome find though.
@HaywirePhoenix
@HaywirePhoenix 3 года назад
Great work. I'd like to see if you could use as a precision solder station aswell.
@edwinschuddemat8280
@edwinschuddemat8280 4 года назад
Thanks for the very informative video. During watching I was wondering what type/model/brand of microscope you're using.
@nicolasmop4033
@nicolasmop4033 4 года назад
Almost 100% sure it's an AmScope like this one: www.amscope.com/applications/electronics/circuit-boards-general-electronics/3-5x-90x-binocular-articulating-arm-pillar-clamp-144-led-zoom-stereo-microscope.html
@LordHog
@LordHog 4 года назад
You might want to check out PCBite which was a Kickstarter campaign. They are incredibly useful.
@spinfiredubai
@spinfiredubai 4 года назад
Can I suggest using elastics for the base and holders. Might help instead of having to screw the wing nuts.
@robrocco5420
@robrocco5420 4 года назад
I'm wondering if the screw is used to fill in the gap by squeezing the sides.. and that's why it wasn't fitting right making you have to resize the part
@maxsnts
@maxsnts 4 года назад
V2: have the needle harms be pulled down with springs or rubber bands 👌
@SuperHouseTV
@SuperHouseTV 4 года назад
Yes, on the SuperHouse Discord we've been talking about improving the probe holders so that they can be snapped up out of the way, then dropped back into the same spot accurately.
@isamelayyan3288
@isamelayyan3288 4 года назад
I suggest changing the winged nuts for the PCB holder to a spring loaded part with same area … :)
@TheHookUp
@TheHookUp 4 года назад
As far as the tuning for fit, did you try just increasing the size of the whole part by 1% or so in the slicer?
@SuperHouseTV
@SuperHouseTV 4 года назад
That might work, but it would also scale up the slot on the top. By recreating the part in Fusion360 I could adjust the diameter of the peg without it changing anything else in the design.
@TheHookUp
@TheHookUp 4 года назад
@@SuperHouseTV I'm just saying for us lazy folk :)
@SuperHouseTV
@SuperHouseTV 4 года назад
And not everyone has Fusion360, or the ability to modify a design. I'll generate STLs for the part with that peg varied in small increments both up and down, so people can experiment and use the one that best suits their printer.
@TheEmbeddedHobbyist
@TheEmbeddedHobbyist 4 года назад
A nice addition would be a litte bit of spring pressure so that you can have close to a defined needle pressure. in the past i've used harden nails, not sure what they were called but they were black with no heads and very hard. sandpaper to remove the black coating on each end and they could be soldered to ok. been trying to find a supply of them as i've lost my last ones. thank for the idea that I can replace them with needles.
@charliebowen4232
@charliebowen4232 4 года назад
Building this project... what size acupuncture needles do you recommend?
@WrexShepard
@WrexShepard 4 года назад
You could have just enlarged the part a bit or set horizontal expansion to a positive number in Cura if that's the slicer you use with that little part that was loosey goosey. Typically +/- 0.05 - 0.1mm is enough to fix any clearance/tolerance problems I have with my printer. Transcribing the whole part into CAD is something I do anyway sometimes though to have control over a design if i'm gonna be using it, so I understand going that route.
@Mr.Leeroy
@Mr.Leeroy 4 года назад
wire is going to snap near ferrule so fast.. you need at least to secure some wire length with insulation to limit bend radius.
@samuelschwager
@samuelschwager 4 года назад
What about using pogo pins instead of acupuncture needles?
@rafik3344
@rafik3344 4 года назад
What's your microscope model and setup?
@linagee
@linagee 4 года назад
Upgrade time! Shielded probes? (I saw a bit of resonance on your oscilloscope.) Maybe put your own shielding over the steel acupuncture needles? Or use something different?
@SuperHouseTV
@SuperHouseTV 4 года назад
Yes, random hookup wire running across the bench isn't great for signal integrity ;-)
@linagee
@linagee 4 года назад
@@SuperHouseTV I hope it's at least good enough to program some Sonoffs without having to solder. :-)
@gorillaau
@gorillaau 4 года назад
You also might want to consider route the probe wires along the arms of the holders to get then out of the way of the board as cleanly as possible.
@dtec30
@dtec30 4 года назад
wonder if you can 3d print a noga mount ?
@johnjacobjinglehimerschmid3555
@johnjacobjinglehimerschmid3555 4 года назад
You just demonstrated how computer chips came to be tested. Alot further along now .... but betcha something very very similar was used for a period of time.
@amputationreboot9716
@amputationreboot9716 4 года назад
John Jacob JinglehimerSchmidt I used to work at a semiconductor company in the states and you are correct, they have something very similar that checks them while they are still on the round wafer. Before they are ever cut and packaged into chips
@johnjacobjinglehimerschmid3555
@johnjacobjinglehimerschmid3555 4 года назад
@@amputationreboot9716 where were you working? I worked at a plant in Colorado Atmel ... now owned by Microchip.
@amputationreboot9716
@amputationreboot9716 4 года назад
Integrated device technologies in Hillsboro OR, Silicon Valley of Oregon 🤣
@davidbronke5484
@davidbronke5484 2 года назад
I'd suggest getting a Dupont crimper and a set of ends instead of having to solder to a pin header 👍
@BrianVanderbusch
@BrianVanderbusch 4 года назад
Unlisted bonus... solder joints have access to Chi energy after getting acupuncture.
@CatEatsDogs
@CatEatsDogs 4 года назад
Please share link to this tool stl's. Thanks
@SuperHouseTV
@SuperHouseTV 4 года назад
The video description has the link to the page with all the build details, including the Thingiverse project.
@chrisw1462
@chrisw1462 4 года назад
Please take care if you put super glue in the bottom of a closed slot or hole to attach whatever goes in it. When you insert the mating part, if you add even little too much glue, it can squeeze _or even spray_ out!!! Best to point it away from you and especially your face while assmbling the parts.
@SuperHouseTV
@SuperHouseTV 4 года назад
This is a great safety tip, thanks for pointing it out. I did have too much glue in one of the probes while I was assembling it, and it came out the side. I'm going to edit the project page to include this tip.
@ml.2770
@ml.2770 Год назад
You can silver solder to stainless
@EdyStauch
@EdyStauch 4 года назад
Please put the link to the Thingiverse project on description. Let's give people credit for their work! Thank you.
@MrKlaygomes
@MrKlaygomes 4 года назад
I think so. Just to help others www.thingiverse.com/thing:3615910
@dtec30
@dtec30 4 года назад
hmm make a kit with the needles and ferrule kit and heat shrink?
@michaels3003
@michaels3003 4 года назад
I guess, this will reduce any pains that the board is experiencing.
@peterfitzpatrick7032
@peterfitzpatrick7032 4 года назад
Subtle but funny ! 🙄😂 😎👍☘️🍺
@michaels3003
@michaels3003 4 года назад
@@peterfitzpatrick7032 , thank you so much. At least one person got it.
@MbySK
@MbySK 4 года назад
What 3d printer did you use? Bc quality is good :)
@SuperHouseTV
@SuperHouseTV 4 года назад
Prusa i3 Mk3S
@partsdave8943
@partsdave8943 4 года назад
@@SuperHouseTV I also have a Prusa MK3 (haven't upgraded it to "S" yet). I have noticed that it prints SO accurately, that other's designs on Thingiverse often have "loose" fitment also. One of the first test prints I did was a simple nut and bolt I drew in F360. It didn't need any tolerance for fitment. The fitment was a slight bit restrictive for the first few turns, and then after that, the tolerance is almost as tight, but definitely as smooth, as machined metal bolts and nuts! Great video!
@joedanow3106
@joedanow3106 3 года назад
@@SuperHouseTV What software do you use to design your #D models? I worked with AutoDesk while a student but I believe Autodesk may be a bit cost prohibitive. If you can please educate me on finding affordable 3D design software that is affordable. Thanks up front.
@woolfy02
@woolfy02 9 месяцев назад
These test fixtures, seem to run about $80 or more (That I can find). Do you know of one that is a lot more basic / cheap to build? I really just need something that can handle 5 pins in line with each other. (Trying to access JTAG circuit). I might just get this one built but, I'm not sure of the total cost.
@vnagaravi
@vnagaravi 4 года назад
I'll print it and ill modify and add few springs to hold
@plazmax
@plazmax 4 года назад
Hi great tutroial, are needles sizes 0.25x25mm ?
@Alieno2010
@Alieno2010 4 года назад
Hi plazma, needles sizes are 0.30x30mm.
@plazmax
@plazmax 4 года назад
@@Alieno2010 but there is no option ebay link 0.30x30, 0.3x40mmm and 0.3x35mm only for 0.3 D , irhink 0.3 with any lenght ok than thank you
@Alieno2010
@Alieno2010 4 года назад
@@plazmaxYou can buy the right needles at the following link: www.3bscientific.it/aghi-per-agopuntura-moxom-tcm-100-pz-non-rivestiti-0-30-x-30-mm-1022102-moxom-cw-3030,p_1317_30829.html
@dtec30
@dtec30 4 года назад
i think if he made the files parametric you could modify sizes and the object would scale up or down to the new sizes
@RobiBue
@RobiBue 4 года назад
This is awesome Jon, but I do have one “odd” question: I see you handling those acupuncture needles in a very “hasty” way, and I was actually wondering how many times you ended up “sticking” yourself with them while shooting the video (or while you were building it)
@SuperHouseTV
@SuperHouseTV 4 года назад
Only on purpose! My son saw me building it and thought the acupuncture needles were awesome, so the first thing he did was stick one in his forehead and walk around with it hanging down!
@RobiBue
@RobiBue 4 года назад
Love that story :) I don't think I would have been brave enough to do that :-o I must tell you, I was surprised never hearing an "ouch" or something and constantly kept watching while you were handling those needles. It might be it's the morbid side in me, that I was expecting to see that needle go into the side of your hand any second. Of course, now as an afterthought, you probably would have edited those parts out :) greetings from "the other side of the world" :)
@ksalamah1
@ksalamah1 4 года назад
HI, EHERE CAN I BUY THIS PLEASE?
@wmckeenster
@wmckeenster 4 года назад
Where can I buy Thai kit in the US?
@Alieno2010
@Alieno2010 4 года назад
Hi Matthew, you can buy the full kit following the instructions given at the original Thingiverse.com product page: www.thingiverse.com/thing:3615910 The kit is worldwide shipped, including the US with Priority Mail, and it includes all the necessary parts to immediately start working with it.
@peterfitzpatrick7032
@peterfitzpatrick7032 4 года назад
@@Alieno2010 great design man !! 🤗
@SuperHouseTV
@SuperHouseTV 4 года назад
Gieseppe is a genius :-)
@kraaijer
@kraaijer 8 месяцев назад
I would’ve redesigned the needle holders for ease of printing
@user-bh8wn5gm6l
@user-bh8wn5gm6l 4 года назад
Hi! Will ferrite sleeves on both ends of the wire help against noise? Or is it better to wrap the wire in foil and heat-shrink tube? Ferrite sleeves like this have Ф1.5mm i.imgur.com/OMSJrH5.png
@LoomisRex
@LoomisRex 4 года назад
Why not use pogo pins ?`
@jyvben1520
@jyvben1520 4 года назад
if you need to get down between high parts, the needle is longer than the pogo pin
@CarltonDodd
@CarltonDodd 4 года назад
No real reason for the needle holder to be rounded off. Redesign it squared off for easier printing (and strength). Add a spot for the suggested rubber band tensioner at the same time.
@Alieno2010
@Alieno2010 4 года назад
The needle holder is rounded off to improve the flexibility of the piece when the needle is inserted by pressing it manually along the central slot using the thumb nail. Moreover, the needle holders must be printed exactly as they are oriented in the original STL file, preferably using a 0.3mm nozzle.
@lmamakos
@lmamakos 4 года назад
@@Alieno2010 I just received one of your kits as a christmas gift from a like-minded friend of mine. What a wonderfully useful tool! Nicely done! Now all I need to do is figure out where to store it, so when I next retrieve it, I don't poke myself with one of the needles :-)
@NicksStuff
@NicksStuff 4 года назад
6:14: You could have printed the STL but scaled it by a few percents, no need to redesign
@SuperHouseTV
@SuperHouseTV 4 года назад
Then the scale would have been off for the slot on the top.
@janstergaard703
@janstergaard703 4 года назад
Hey google, press enter on my keyboard
@commanderbensisko
@commanderbensisko 4 года назад
Great stuff as usual Jonathan. Hey, what’s the issue with my order ( #11482 ) from your freetronics website? It’s been almost 3 weeks but my serial adaptor has not arrived. My payment has been made successfully. And, I have repeated made inquiries and asked for updates via the freetronics site with absolutely zero responses. I would really appreciate an update. Better yet, my serial adaptor so I can finish following your great tutorial.
@SuperHouseTV
@SuperHouseTV 4 года назад
Sorry about that! Support emails go into a ticketing system that used to be managed by someone else, so I don't log into it often. I need to change the email setup so I get the notifications. Your order was posted the day after it was placed, and you should have received a shipping confirmation email with a photo of the package attached. I'll forward that confirmation email now from my personal account so that you have my direct contact details. It was posted as a letter so 3 weeks from Australia to the UK is still within the expected transit time.
@SuperHouseTV
@SuperHouseTV 4 года назад
I've forwarded the confirmation email, but there's something strange about the email address associated with the order. I don't want to reveal your email details in a public place like this, so please contact me directly at jon@superhouse.tv so we can figure it out privately.
@CapalOnLive
@CapalOnLive 4 года назад
Warning : at 12.38 do not rotate when you place a "cable end" that create a hot sport when it have a hit intensity
@stevew9945
@stevew9945 4 года назад
This link points to a video about dimensionally accurate 3 d Printing, I suspect that if you saw this video before you printed, you would have not had to redesign. As a bonus this guy does a brilliant job of making a test jig for the circuit board using pogo pins. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-0dFThbwAx2Y.html enjoy, regards Steve W
@hullinstruments
@hullinstruments 3 года назад
I’ve tried to buy one of these from the guys website but it’s almost impossible. It’s the worst website I’ve ever seen. Can’t look at the pictures up close, can’t jump around to see what’s in your cart or look through options or anything like that. I simply don’t have time to 3D print it and it’s definitely worth his asking price just to buy it out right. Sure beats the $400 I spent building the last one… With aluminum T-slot base and aluminum articulating arms meant for holding dial indicators. Even buying the cheapest stuff I could find it still cost quite a bit. So I would love to buy the 3-D printed version if only his website was usable.
@edwardpaulsen1074
@edwardpaulsen1074 4 года назад
Not to split hairs here, but perhaps if you would have followed his rather explicit directions for printing the needle holders, you night not have had so many issues... RTFM rears its ugly head, LOL even so, I somewhat agree with the swingarm assembly fix but I would have changed it two two tapered tabs to insure the less wobbly grip. I also like the many call outs for a knurled knob rather than the rather annoying wing nuts. I liked the review overall as it pointed out some potential issues and possible "upgrades". Thanks for posting this!
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