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Adventures with solderless 3D printed circuits + conductive filament 

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I had in my possession some X3D conductive ABS. The question begged: Could I create a 3D printed PCB that didn’t use a soldering iron? Yes! Well, sort of..
I certainly learned a lot making this video but the conductive filament isn’t quite up to the task, based on my experiences and those I reviewed of others.
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@yshwgth
@yshwgth 4 года назад
Sound more like resistive filament than conductive filament.
@honzapat
@honzapat 4 года назад
XD
@TeachingTech
@TeachingTech 4 года назад
It is the nature of trying to make plastic flow electricity. It's a miracle manufacturers can make it work this well at all.
@alexscarbro796
@alexscarbro796 4 года назад
Since this filament is conductive, you may be able to electroplate bright copper on to it.....there are some cheap kits with anode and solution available on eBay.
@Joeyywow
@Joeyywow 4 года назад
Do you know what is resistive filament? this one :) 3DXSTAT™ ESD-Safe PETG 3D FILAMENT ( Target surface resistance: 10^7 to 10^9 Ohm.)
@ericcsuf
@ericcsuf 4 года назад
It's the same thing, just a semantic change. Things that conduct have resistance. Things that have some resistance do conduct. They are the reciprocal of one another.
@FilamentFriday
@FilamentFriday 4 года назад
I’ve found it’s good for a stylus pen on iPhone. I made a video on it back in 2015. I also tried to make a circuit board but gave up as the surface conductivity is too low and overall conductivity is way to inconsistent for circuits. You’ve just confirmed the technology hasn’t advanced one bit.
@MegaDman42
@MegaDman42 3 года назад
theoretically could it be used to make a touch lamp? I have an idea but I don't have any of this kind of thing, so I can't test it out
@Jynxx_13
@Jynxx_13 4 года назад
I'd love to see a 3d printer build off between you, Angus, Joel, Tom, Stefan, Chris's Basement Chuck H, etc.. Everyone gets $1000 to build the "Best" printer they can from whatever they want. Then put them to the test of materials, tolerance, speed, quality etc...
@3dprintedcuber458
@3dprintedcuber458 4 года назад
I would love that too, that would be so cool.
@jon9947
@jon9947 4 года назад
This is an amazing idea, kinda like the Scrapyard Wars of 3d printing. Count me in as a viewer.
@theedwardsification
@theedwardsification 4 года назад
This is the content we need!
@ojbeez5260
@ojbeez5260 4 года назад
...and they have to build it by knitting it together with wool.
@shenqiangshou
@shenqiangshou 4 года назад
Interesting idea, but what is the definition of best? Is largest print volume best? Is fastest printing best? Is highest temperature printing best? Is ease of use best? Is best mechanical design best?
@x3dprint726
@x3dprint726 4 года назад
Brilliant Job Michael. Based on this we will change the description of the filament to resistance filament rather than conductive. Thanks - X3D Team
@LeafInTea
@LeafInTea 4 года назад
Conductance is the reciprocal to resistance: 1/C = R 1/R = C i don't know if there will be much difference in the sense of using different wording. But again, I don't know anything about sales.
@informing_
@informing_ 4 года назад
Do you ship in in Europe?
@scottz5394
@scottz5394 4 года назад
Fun fact: Any thing you print with that filament will become a pencil. Try writing with it!
@DarkArtGuitars
@DarkArtGuitars 2 года назад
Just watched this video over a year after its release and was very surprised to find myself mentioned. Most people don't even give credit when they straight up copy you, but you even give credit to your research! Cheers.
@colinfielder6695
@colinfielder6695 4 года назад
As always Michael a very thorough well presented video! Thank you for taking the time to do these for us to learn from!
@FlatlineLancer
@FlatlineLancer 4 года назад
Thank you for showing us the full experiment even if the results were unfavorable!
@RusakovLA
@RusakovLA 4 года назад
This can be used as a signal circuit for something like a maze toy or an interactive puzzle.
@simontilstedhansen9296
@simontilstedhansen9296 4 года назад
Great idea
@xKatjaxPurrsx
@xKatjaxPurrsx 4 года назад
This video is hilarious and rekindles lulz of the original goals of the reprap project. Thanks! :)
@charlietuna5962
@charlietuna5962 4 года назад
Awesome, thank you for your testing and provided information. As always, great content and a pleasure to watch video.
@StanislavManilov
@StanislavManilov 10 месяцев назад
Thanks for running this experiment! Very informative!
@lghammer778
@lghammer778 4 года назад
You did some great testing, awesome work.
@paulr4279
@paulr4279 4 года назад
Passed 150k subs, Micheal! Well done,mate. 🤘
@ktvanzwol
@ktvanzwol 4 года назад
Would be interesting to see how well this works when connected to a touch sensor input of an esp32 or capacitive touch sensor breakout boards, detecting when someone touches 3D printed objects.
@yannickg6904
@yannickg6904 4 года назад
Interesting. I just started 3D printing and I am already hooked. I fear it is a rabbit hole I will never get out of.
@fritzmueller6759
@fritzmueller6759 4 года назад
That happened to me 😂😂
@asocialconsciousness8535
@asocialconsciousness8535 4 года назад
awesome idea! i would love to see more tests of conductive 3d filaments!!
@ianmilatz5963
@ianmilatz5963 6 месяцев назад
Great Video, In my arsenal I have QidiPrint Xmax Snapmaker A350 Kobra 2 Max I will be starting my adventure with conductive PLA, I will be using it as a ground bus printed into a retrofit housing for a display. I'm glad you saved me some grief with this video.
@TheEchoWarrior
@TheEchoWarrior 4 года назад
One of the things I've been meaning to look at with conductive filament is hooking it up to the capacitive touch pins on the ESP32 and making prints with touch buttons.
@blackwolf9748
@blackwolf9748 4 года назад
Thanks for this, I've been very curious about this type of filament!
@Doktor_Calamari
@Doktor_Calamari 4 года назад
I've been wondering about using a 3D printer to apply an etch-resist layer on a copper-clad board. I don't think it would have the resolution of a photoetched board, but it might be cheaper and easier, all things considered.
@OwenWithAHammer
@OwenWithAHammer 4 года назад
You should have tried the LED without the resistor, since the filament itself has so much resistance. Conductive filament is necessary to 3D print motors and generators amongst other things, so we'll need to develop better filaments in the future. But I have little faith in FDMs/V6s ability to print conductive materials. Maybe when tool changers come around someone will make a specialty ferromagnetic/conductive filament hotend that's able to get lower resistance, but doing it out of a v6 style hotend just isn't going to happen.
@Andreas-gh6is
@Andreas-gh6is 4 года назад
A toolchanger could have a soldering head, dispensing solder paste and heating it up. Or even use a laser for that purpose. Such things probably already exist somewhere.... Easier would be a plotter with conductive ink, which is slightly better than the conductive filament.
@TeachingTech
@TeachingTech 4 года назад
I shorted the leads of the resistor for the first test, made little difference. Too much resistance in the other components. Tool changers are exciting, let's see where this technology is in five years.
@victortitov1740
@victortitov1740 4 года назад
Yes, I also have tried ferromagnetic filament, in hopes it would be useful for making motors, inductors, transformers, speaker magnets etc. Nope, the magnetic conductivity (permittivity) is very poor, not useful at all. This filament might still be useful for something like embedding a capacitive sensor buttons. Though the conductivity is so poor i'm afraid it won't be useful even for that.
@tinkerduck1373
@tinkerduck1373 2 года назад
Don't forget, that we also need an extruder for redstone.
7 месяцев назад
I really appreciate showing how the sausage is made. Seeing the failed experiments is highly elucidating.
@mciarlillo1309
@mciarlillo1309 3 года назад
Super neat video!
@johanbraanen2108
@johanbraanen2108 2 года назад
Great work! And a nice solution for simpler designs.
@andreamclean4446
@andreamclean4446 Год назад
I always admire people who have technical skills as fine as you do. This is kind of what tech companies like Nano Dimension are slowly but surely achieving on an industrial scale, isn't it?
@scratchinjack608
@scratchinjack608 4 года назад
Well done video and extremely informative!! Thank you! I dare not say that conductive filament will not evolve but for now, it appears a CNC of a solid PCP board is the bast way to go for now. However, the use of actual wire is very intriguing.
@georgematousek6390
@georgematousek6390 4 года назад
When I got some conductive filament it was described as being used to get rid of static electricity. For example it would be used for a housing for the electronics because sometimes plastics can hold a static charge
@JimmyJames420
@JimmyJames420 4 года назад
Dude! You're awesome. Thank you
@larsord9139
@larsord9139 4 года назад
Until I saw that the conductive filament really won't work, I was going to recommend trying conductive epoxy instead of the screw terminals. I was really hoping this was going to work. Oh well, thanks for trying.
@Andreas-gh6is
@Andreas-gh6is 4 года назад
you could pour the conductive epoxy into printed groves.
@ristopaasivirta9770
@ristopaasivirta9770 4 года назад
What I would try is to print very narrow channels to end points between components. So sort of like printing wires. This might be best using a two-nozzle printer so the other one can print the non-conductive base and the other fills the channels with conductive substance. Excellent video!
@rklauco
@rklauco 4 года назад
Thanks for testing this - I don't need to waste mybtime with this topic, at least for now ;)
@FreedomAirguns
@FreedomAirguns 4 года назад
While I do recognize the potential the filament has when used "raw", I "suspect" (actually, I know for sure) that it's best suited for electroplating, which is an inexpensive way to give the best results in a matter of minutes. You should try it out, it won't disappoint you.
@joshuaolsen8844
@joshuaolsen8844 4 года назад
Michael could you use a dual extruded to try printing something more traditional to a PCB? Thanks for the video! Really enjoyed it!
@toms4123
@toms4123 4 года назад
I have always wondered if the etching mask could not be 3D-printed on to the copper side before etching? The resolution of the printer should result in a pretty good PCB if the filament holds up to the etching process.
@travismiller5548
@travismiller5548 3 года назад
Thanks for sharing- I'm interested to know how well it electroplates. The best conductive paints are expensive, silver based, and use really nasty solvents.
@reasonablebeing5392
@reasonablebeing5392 4 года назад
I have not been able to try this experiment yet with the conductive filament that I have but I wonder if you can copper plate the 3D filament after printing? There are many youtube videos that show how to copperplate and the materials are readily available.
@TeachingTech
@TeachingTech 4 года назад
Nice idea, I will investigate.
@dwkaolawdjwdkaoakl1570
@dwkaolawdjwdkaoakl1570 2 года назад
great video. when i watch you its like im doing engineering and experimenting. not just some dumb review
@emailtojerry
@emailtojerry 4 года назад
One use I found for conductive filament is making a stylus handle. You can get replacement tablet stylus tips of various shapes and print out a handle that is the exact size and shape you want. I created a pistol-grip right-angle handle to help someone with a movement disability use a phone or tablet easier as they had difficulty hitting icons with a finger. This doesn't work with normal filament as the touch screens need something conductive to work with.
@mase002
@mase002 4 года назад
I was reading about a filament that uses a single continuous strand of carbon fiber. I wonder if that would solve the problem. I'll try and find the link.
@atimholt
@atimholt 4 года назад
I was thinking in terms of ergonomic keyboards with concave key wells. I was disappointed with your results with the filament, but the idea of structurally-supported circuitry is terrific! Especially if your “wiring” is all just cut sheet metal, designed with all the right slots and joined maybe with solder. You'd have to make sure to engineer the *assembly* process, not just the finished product, but anything better than the rat's nest you usually get with boardless keyboards would be a success.
@chefjacobs3dprintz564
@chefjacobs3dprintz564 4 года назад
I hadn't done this on my channel yet, but I saw similar results in my testing.
@Zachary3DPrints
@Zachary3DPrints 4 года назад
Oh well, I think there could be a future for this, but more in the way of 3D Printed copper or other materials that are higher conductive. I really like this idea, Printing your own PCB
@rebel1988us
@rebel1988us 4 года назад
I like the idea of using the 3d printer to make canals and using wire, that would be a nice way to learn pcb design when you are starting out.
@alexanderdendas7976
@alexanderdendas7976 4 года назад
I would like to know how this changes using a dual extruder and printing very thin lines of conductive filament in the surrounding normal filament
@eukaliptal
@eukaliptal 4 года назад
I see what you did there... Turning failure into success. Clever
@rap-id-ralph
@rap-id-ralph 4 года назад
Hey man. Liking the vid. Just a tip for measuring low resistances: get some sort of vaping mod, they’re used to measuring low resistances with high precision from 0.08 to about 2 Ohms.
@ITpanda
@ITpanda 3 года назад
Is the resistance high due to material interface or length of material used? Dual input extruder would be interesting to mix a metal containing filament with this one at various percentages for different properties. Brittleness of material is less of a concern if able to print it inside a non-conductive material.
@alairock
@alairock 4 года назад
What about dual extrusion where PLA is your base and the conductive filament is the traces?
@KieranShort
@KieranShort 4 года назад
Where did you get that food dehydrator from Michael? I'm looking for something like that in Australia.
@sermsaklimpadapun6054
@sermsaklimpadapun6054 3 года назад
Can we use solder as filament with the high temp hotend? We should be able to control liquid solder and push it through nozzle onto PCB. Or even print 3D model with solder metal instead of plastic.
@WirelessDreamer
@WirelessDreamer 4 года назад
have you tried printing it out of a dual extruder printer. I used proto pasta, and it was fine by itself, but when I used it with another abs, it would always clog up.
@SidneyCritic
@SidneyCritic 4 года назад
That stuff has so much resistance that you probably could've poured tap water in the base troughs and it would've worked better. lol
@Jajaho2
@Jajaho2 4 года назад
Hi, next time you measure relatively small resistances you might want to look into the four-wire-measurement-method. By just checking your resistance-meter you are mainly measuring the resistance of the test leads. But great video as always.
@TeachingTech
@TeachingTech 4 года назад
Thank you, I will check it out.
@AzCowboyOne
@AzCowboyOne 4 года назад
It works if you don't use it. Love it!
@MakersMashup
@MakersMashup 4 года назад
I would be very curious to know what commercial or novel use cases conductive filament is good for. I understand the POC here but aside from wanting to try this out is anyone at all aware of this being used to produce anything? I would love to see more projects that use it. Thanks again Michael another great video.
@kenneth558
@kenneth558 4 года назад
See my post above
@krelis77
@krelis77 4 года назад
With that kind of resistance no future ... for now. Great review 👍
@tituscassiusseverus6303
@tituscassiusseverus6303 4 года назад
fields metal, it melts at boiling water temperature, i have ingots of it. would love to see if it could be drawn into a filament and printed.
@davidborg7305
@davidborg7305 2 года назад
I just had a go with some conductive filament, very brittle even after drying it for 12 hours, feeding it through the bowden tube you could hear it breaking every few seconds then it got stuck.
@fritzmueller6759
@fritzmueller6759 4 года назад
Yesterday I made some Tests with printing pure solder with my Ender 3. And it kinda worked!!! I mean I was able to print the first layer, but then my bowden tube filled with fluid solder... Of course I used an old hotend for these Tests. Im future I will experiment with different fanspeeds or even different fans to get the solder perfectly timed and being able to print multiple layers. I think it would be cool to simply 3d print conductive materials Edit: And of course I dont recommend to try this yourself, because you will probably ruin your hotend or even the whole printer
@fritzmueller6759
@fritzmueller6759 4 года назад
@Stereo Rainbow yes I think with an all metal hotend it should work
@fritzmueller6759
@fritzmueller6759 4 года назад
I was able to print lines and even some curves but sadly no areas, because the solder flew together and it became a mess. But when You think about it it should be possible to print some PCBs or even some Basic eldctric devices like a Flashlight. With a Dual Extruder you could start by printing the framd, then print the eldctric wirimg with solder and the adding a LED and a battery. This would be so cool
@harpo3196
@harpo3196 4 года назад
In the 1980's we were injection moulding conductive polymers for wing mirror heaters in cars.
@jeminacek
@jeminacek 4 года назад
I've printed buttons to simulate physical gamepad for emulators running on Android phone and they worked. At the bottom I used cut off bits of cheap stylus pens and the top was conductive ABS supported with springs.
@InssiAjaton
@InssiAjaton 8 месяцев назад
Following your difficulties with contact resistance, I started wondering if those critical points would benefit from a drop of nickel paste. or even silver paste. I speculate that it is not entirely a volume resistance issue, so anything that would improve the contacts (just like your washers) might be helping. On the other hand, I believe having seen somebody making an entire PCB on insulating material applying some conductive ink. Maybe it was even something used in making hybrid microcircuits or thin/thick film resistors - palladium comes to mind. Is using a stencil still 3-D printing?
@crestfallensunbro6001
@crestfallensunbro6001 4 года назад
weird question, has anyone tried an eutectic metal in a 3d printer? what would happen if you used a solder like metal with a suitable melting point? it would require some fine tuning temperature wise but i think it should be possible in theory, that would be awsome to see
@_FFFFFF_
@_FFFFFF_ 4 года назад
If you have enough filament left, have you tried to see if you can copper plate the parts to make them conductive ? There is a 'High Quality (and Safe) Copper Plating' instructable that goes over a simple method. I would 'hope' that this is conductive enough to plate.
@dB-zo5bd
@dB-zo5bd 4 года назад
brilliant!
@slickstretch6391
@slickstretch6391 4 года назад
Could you 3d print the board, laying out grooves instead of conductive fil, and then add the solder the board afterwards?
@thetinguy
@thetinguy 4 года назад
another great video. you may want to try using silver epoxy glue which is conductive. commonly used to fix things where an iron wouldn't work like a car window defroster.
@LeafInTea
@LeafInTea 4 года назад
I did some tests with the conductive filament and yeah ... it has really high resistance. Filament i used is the protopasta PLA, printed using the ultimaker. I find that the patterns of the print does affect it's conductivity, Lines "zigzag" patterns on normal fills VS concentric infill pattern. With the concentric pattern, you can achieve a long continuous printed line from one point to the other, hence making the conductivity better Also, with another test, i did heat up the print using a heat gun, and the resistance lowered as more of the printed plastic melted together (Kilo-ohms to about 200-500 ohms) but the shape does deform/shrink Some things that i did not test, but would like to, is to test if ironing helps with lowering the resistance, and that if there was a setting for ironing at each layer of the print, to try and fuse the plastic together. From research from 3d printing using jetting, the conductivity of the Z direction will be worse than the XY direction. I think this is true with FDM as well, as the layers cool and would not form as good of a bond.
@lukewirges1101
@lukewirges1101 4 года назад
I wonder if this would work better in vase mode to try and line up the carbon fiber
@thermalreboot
@thermalreboot 4 года назад
Interesting idea, why not do a dual filament print? Put regular PLA or PETG down for the first few layers then put the conductive filament on top of that?
@gregoryp203
@gregoryp203 4 года назад
I think an applications for this filament is where you need a mechanical part to be conductive. for example you could make an endstop where there is a conducive 3d printed piece on a moving part and when it comes in contact with two other conductive 3d printed parts it completes a circuit.
@moesay11
@moesay11 4 года назад
I wonder if you used less conductive material would it work better since it has a high internal resistance. If you say printed a flat base out of regular filament with screw holes and printed the conductive filament on top of it as if it were the copper lines in a normal pcb. Would it work?
@FPChris
@FPChris 2 года назад
Could I print the flat radial disc for a potentiometer for a wiper to ride on?
@KeesHessels
@KeesHessels 4 года назад
with this stuff you could create components like 3d printed variable resistors :), enclosures that have build in touch sensors for example...also quite interesting to know if stress on the material would have any electrical changes...
@TeachingTech
@TeachingTech 4 года назад
Great idea, perhaps I'll follow up in future.
@ddegn
@ddegn 4 года назад
I've been reading comments trying to find this suggestion. I think conductive filament could make some interesting sensors. You could have a bunch of separate patches on a robot and monitor these patches to see where the robot contacts other objects.
@darkphoenix2004
@darkphoenix2004 4 года назад
Makeing channels for wires is actually an awesome Idea. Could even make that 2 Layers.
@mikerufty1307
@mikerufty1307 4 года назад
I like the out of the box concept thinking of the final design. I don't think the conductive filaments will ever work, but the idea of 3D printing with regular filaments to make a PCB instead and using wires as traces sounds like an option for some simple design tests when a breadboard is not wanted.
@locoworks8179
@locoworks8179 4 года назад
" let me show you how it 'mostly' works " brilliant, i'm still laughing.
@harryjohnson615
@harryjohnson615 4 года назад
Ha ha When he said that I repeated it back to myself 😁
@ZoltanHoppar
@ZoltanHoppar 4 года назад
I think this can be used for old keyboard carbon feets, for restoration - but also I think can be used for producing your own rfid tags...
@avidmisreader
@avidmisreader 4 года назад
Can't wait for that consumer grade conductive, printable graphene. Great workaround in the mean time. :)
@TeachingTech
@TeachingTech 4 года назад
Me too :)
@intelli07
@intelli07 4 года назад
Can you do an episode on the conductive abs for copper plating? That would be very interesting! Make everything metallic! =D
@pascalbruyere7108
@pascalbruyere7108 2 года назад
Very well done video. Consistent to what I expected based on previous readings on the master: resistance is too high. Even with pretty fat conductors. I like the idea to run wires into a regular PLA PCB, though!
@sufflmd
@sufflmd 4 года назад
Hello Mike, what do you think,can you copper plate a 3d printed part with this filament ? I was thinking of copper plating a 3d printed part but with conductive ink
@leighdonald1467
@leighdonald1467 4 года назад
What would happen if you fed solder directly into your extruder? Could you print a circuit onto a flat surface?
@grandmaster-grouch
@grandmaster-grouch 4 года назад
yahhs! yo your studio looks like a rnd shop.. you have good ventilation i hope.. my father died from prolonged exposure to chemical fumes.. i see all your printers and immediately my head goes to.. "god i hope he vents" often to late to little the impact of industrial waste has on people. cheers/.
@lubricatedgoat
@lubricatedgoat 4 года назад
Silly question: the melting point of many solder types is easily reachable by common 3D printers. Do you think it would be possible to build a printer designed to extrude low temperature (say, under 200 C) liquid metal? I understand that it would be liquid instead of plastic in nature; I'm thinking a tiny nozzle opening might be able to use surface tension to avoid dripping, and the extruded solder could also use surface tension to help maintain both flow and shape. Either that or extrude cold solder paste. I'm guessing a printer that could extrude solder would have a second head for plastic extrusion. This way it could print a substrate to hold the fragile solder with the end result being an actual printed circuit board. Another way that might be less precise would be to have the printer print a high temperature plastic with channels where it can either squirt liquid solder in or let the user lay out some solder (or solder paste) and bake the part until it flows into place. The latter should be doable with current printers and high temperature plastics, and low temperature (melting) solder. Maybe print the board a few mm thick and make the channels a mm deep. Solder could even be flowed in place on a paused print, then printed over to completely enclose. Sorry, one last idea: Casting the circuit, but keeping the mold in place. Print a part with a hollow structure in the shape of the circuit. Pour in solder.
@Velsethen
@Velsethen 4 года назад
a valid idea, but it wouldn't work. The lowest melting point solder I know of is chip-quick. It uses a compound of indium and silver, or tin. melts around 118-C (depending on the composition the range is 244-315 degrees F)and stays liquid for a decent amount of time. Normal use is for soldering components that are susceptible to heat, or use in bonding to ceramics and glass. I use it for desoldering as a small amount can be used over a long period, and I can increase it by feeding it normal solder during the removal process. Good for salvaging IC's or for use on old film trace boards that damage easy. There are also a variety of solder paste that use the indium/bismuth base and while the melting point is around 118-C the normal or optimum reflows are around 170. So a nylon base print may work if you use it like an inlay, but you are going to run into so many issues trying to get anything you described to work. Also keep in mind then when solder is melted it is a viscous liquid that tends to pull into itself. So having paths only a few mm's thick are not going to work, you would need at minimum 5 to 10 mm, because you are going to have to shave off at least 1-2 since the base layer is going to create air pockets/pits and part of that is going to be from any flux in the paste you can't burn off. so the last idea with the casting would be your best attempt, but again all that ambient heat is going to linger unless you quench it, so there is a chance of deforming, even if you pack it sand like a traditional casting in which case building the mold out of way would probably be better.
@Kobrar44
@Kobrar44 2 года назад
How well would this filament work in electroplating?
@aryah1513
@aryah1513 Год назад
I don't know much about electronics at all. I have found 1 use for this. If I want to split 1 wire into several like-size wires, I can make a board with a bunch of holes in it for a bunch of screw terminals. Much cleaner look than a bunch of wiring. Also while it might be brittle, I have used PLA+ to protect it. Haven't tested the item out to see how durable it is but it definitely works. If they could make a slightly flexible version of this it could be more useful.
@tais1303
@tais1303 3 года назад
Could actually still be usefull as a "PCB" where you could use the resistance of the filament as a substitute for resistors in the circuit. Maybe it could act as a decent higher load resister in it self?
@JeremyBolanos
@JeremyBolanos 4 года назад
Still waiting on my MakerGeeks conductive filament from last year. Fingers crossed.
@jazekerxx7535
@jazekerxx7535 4 года назад
Thx for testing this out! But i think i'll stick with PCB's from JLCPCB.. There is an easy way to measure resistance in the milli ohm scale, it's called the 4 wire kelvin test. You just put some current trough the conductor and measure it, then measure the voltage across the conductor. Then you can calculate by ohm's law what the resistance is with extreme precision. R=U/I resistance=voltage/current
@astonsummers6892
@astonsummers6892 4 года назад
I read some research that recently came out that was using copper nanowires embedded in filament which was approximately 100 times more conductive than most carbon based conductive filaments. Only problem for the moment is it was using PCL and melts/degrades at quite low temperatures around 90 degrees I think so definitely still a work in progress but could be promising for this sort of thing.
@jblacktube
@jblacktube 4 года назад
I've been wondering if the filament is conductive enough for copper plating
@fleezybaby
@fleezybaby Год назад
has the material improved in the last 3 years? i was hoping that i could make a wireless gadget with this.
@Velsethen
@Velsethen 4 года назад
If you were to use thinner parts, maybe trying to print the conductive filament on to a pla piece directly it may work better assuming you can get a good contact path thru-out the entire piece. Basic traces and such, but probably thicker than a normal pcb. I would try something like 2-3mm wide and thick to start, and see if you could force the component leads in with an iron.
@britanniabaptistchurchservice
@britanniabaptistchurchservice 4 года назад
Can you please list the prints you have and where to get them thanks I have a Prusa Mr3s
@ZILLION4EVER
@ZILLION4EVER 4 года назад
Hi, I also see GRAPHENE filament in stores, as thishas much higher conduction, that would be a good kandidate? Have you got experience with that? (or anybody else?) thank you for the great videos!
@PR0T0H0M1N1D
@PR0T0H0M1N1D 2 года назад
I was really hoping to see what would happen if the conductive filament was loaded in a 3d pen. Could you draw out a functional circuit? I conclude from the video that that ohms per inch would be too high and the filament would be hard on the pen.
@jameswiz
@jameswiz 3 года назад
Did you try something like Low Temp Solder? If This ABS Melts at 220-250ish, then maybe the low temp solder that melts around 180 could be a way to increase conductivity greatly. IDK if you could get the solder to stick to the abs or not, but maybe there is enough carbon it would stick to that? I just don't know. Perhaps you could electroplate the completed filament then solder to that? I'd really like to see you give that a go...
@SG-xf3ro
@SG-xf3ro 2 месяца назад
@teachingtech to fix broken headphone port. I wonder if it os possible to print the part with this filament.
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