Wish they'd kept the bits near the end with Lois and Superman's goodbyes, they were very touching and well-acted. You can see that Lois, though trying to stay strong, will be a mess in the morning and will play right into that scene at the Planet the next day.
This was the only version I watched growing up we had taped it from the ABC Sunday night movie. Thanks for posting. I'd love to have them release this full TV version on Blu-ray.
Me, too!! Very very much. That version would be the true “best of all possible worlds “ rendition of Superman II. But, unfortunately, I think that version has been altered by “fan edits.” I love being able to watch The Richard Donner Cut AND the 3 hour 8 minute version of Superman: The Movie. It’s a relative miracle that that version of that movie survives in one piece.
I was looking for the deleted scene with the kryptonians being arrested with a better picture quality ( and really is much better here) and now I just saw scenes I have never seen before. Thank you!
Thanks to unseen footage I wonder if they ever will realise it an un edited (in both versions cut ) on HD4/ BluRay !! As realy be great to have in my collection ...Many thanks in posting it on here!!! 👏👏👏👏👏👏 and RIP to Christopher Reeve and Margaret Kidder . There two real legeions and will live on.
One thing I realize about Superman 2, is that you get Christopher Reeve in 4 different stages of his physical transformation. Even his hair style is slightly different in some scenes. 1. In the fortress talking to Luthor (Superman II - Donner Cut) 2. In the fortress fighting off Zod (Superman II Theatrical Cut) 3. Lois’ Balcony (Superman I and II - Donner Cut) 4. Superman outside the fortress with Lois (Superman II - Donner Cut) This is a real gem, because a lot of these scenes were lost. Great find!
Yeah, I noticed that, too, but not only in Superman II, but also in Superman. From the scene where he delivers that jewel robber to the ones with Lois dead and after alive, he is very different, for instance. And there is the scene from the extended version with Jor-El in the fortress, where he seems younger than the rest. But I read the scenes in the fortress (for both movies, the internal ones) were the first ones to be shooting by Donner, in may 1977. With Lester the shooting took place almost three years later.
@@hairywelder5188 Reeve was very skinny when he was cast and there wasn't time for him to fully develop his size before filming, so his weight varies throughout both films. Superman III, if it's best at nothing else, is the chance to see his bodybuilding peak.
I didn't see it originally on the TV version, then I eventually caught it. I think it was better with them being arrested because Superman wouldn't kill them.
Jimmy Olsen showed bravery trying to bite Non. Just goes to show Zod never intended to allow Luthor to live. Even though it was never shown, Supes rebuilt the Fortress and repaired the lunar landing site by _The Quest for Peace_ . Nice comedic touch showing Clark take dinner plates out of the closet before confronting Rocky at the diner.
Great thing about Superman...If he couldn't beat them with Braun, he could definitely beat them with Brains! The word of God says that a person of wisdom and knowledge is far more powerful than a person of might or power...👍👍👍👍👍Something to "think about, with the brain..."
At 11:48-11:55 of this video you can pause the image and see how much Christopher Reeve looks like Superman right from the classic comic books. The absolute best!
When Zod delivers his ultimatum at the FOS, Terrance Stamp's line reading is different in the tv broadcast. The dialogue is the same, but he says it in a more sinister tone (when he pauses and says "Forever", it sounds more declarative, rather than sarcastic).
@@eliasshaikh2065 Bumping into the bald bully at the elevator reminded Clark about his beat down from Rock at the diner. Not necessary but an added bonus - this was not shown at the theatrical release when I saw it at the age of 5!
It didn't make sense to have that scene because they fly in but the next scene they had Luthor and Lois with them as well. When did they pick them up again?
The man by the elevator at the end should've used a same line of dialogue that the bully in the bar used. Then we could understand better why he reminded Clark of the bully.
I think it did to him. The fact that he was called "Buster" and given nasty advice sort of made him think of Rocky and going back there as Clark to sort of teach him a lesson.
If only we could get an extended cut of Superman 2. I know we got the Richard Donner Cut but I’m sorta curious to see a rough cut of the film similar to TV cut of the first film.
Not likely to happen or else WB probably would have released it by now. I believe the only reason we got the super extended version of S:TM was because WB just happened by chance to find a print of that version in their vault. Elements for the super extended version.of SII may be lost. But even if they were readily available if would also depend on how well the S:TM blu ray sold
@@williamgiesen4910 I see but since Superman The Movie Sold with lost scenes in 2001 and more lost scenes 2018 how come when it’s not on MAX and why did those two come out on Ultra 4K this year when The Superman Set came out on May 9th.
And I wonder why it’s not on MAX but you might have a point with Superman II But Superman The Movie it Sold you said so why not Release it on Ultra 4K or MAX.
Why the hell doesn't WB put this on blu ray dvd? They did for Superman the movie, extended tv version and from what I heard, it sold really great, so I don't understand what the hold up is on this, I hope someday soon.
There were a few scenes here not in the ABC broadcast. The joke about the coffee is in the Richard Donner version. The scene with Superman and Lois talking after he destroys the Fortress of Solitude was shown on a CBS broadcast.
It was probably meant as a joke to the audience. Also, now that I think about it, remember the show Smallville, where we see a young Luthor? That was taken from the comic book that Superman knew Luthor when he was Superboy and they were friends then, but when he caused Luthor to become bald, he became Superman's worst enemy.
This is a reference to their backstory in the comics. Lex Luthor was Superboy's best friend when they were teenagers. But when Superboy inadvertently causes an explosion in Luthor's laboratory, it makes Luthor's hair fall out and makes him crazy. He then becomes Superboy's (and later Superman's) sworn enemy.
The scenes with Gene Hackman were from the Donner version. Along with composer John Williams, Hackman had refused to work on Richard Lester's Superman II, out of respect to Donner. There were scenes that used a body double. Kidder and Reeve were contractually obligated to be in Lester's Superman II.
Yes, we all know that. But the Scenes with Gene Hackman were Shot by Donner, not from "Donner Version" (but you're not ENTIRELY wrong there) These are Scenes I took from The Restored International Cut (Which is the Extended TV Cut) and show the Scenes Cut from the Theatrical Cut. Also Besides the Shot of "Lex Luther" Falling down from Zod, I can’t find the Scenes shot by Lester that use "A Body Double" anywhere.
@@gamecube8885 He was on Ursa's back and she pushes him off once they are there. Probably the body double was also used in scenes after that where he is climbing around the fortress to get to them.
@@sha11235 The Salkind's, especially the son Ilya Salkind, was nothing more than a money-hungry greaser who did terrible job to everyone involved. I agree that after the dismissal of Richard Donner, Reeve, Kidder and all the others should have quit instead of making the second film with the Salkinds and Lesterer.
While I love “The Richard Donner Cut,” it will never be as good as if Donner had been allowed to finish the movie in about 1979-1980. I love what is added to the Donner version so much that I like it better than Richard Lester’s theatrical release. But, as pure polished film, Lester’s movie is better.
i REMEMBER THIS ORIGINAL SCENE BUT THEY HAD TO CHANGE IT BECAUSE THE FORTRESS OF SOLITUDE WAS NOT DESTROYED BUT INTACT IN SUPERMAN 4 THE QUEST FOR PEACE AND HAD TO CHANGE THE ENDING OF SUPERMAN 2 TO STAY IN CONTINUITY OF THE MOVIE SERIES!
the scene where that little boy was killed by one of those 3 villians in superman 2 was also deleted because people thought that was to violent to be shown and much less seeing an innocent child get blasted to pieces! just after that same boy watch non use his heat vision!
No, because they're from Krypton and they lost their Super-human Abilities they use to have. They are now just as weak as any normal Human. Plus when It comes to talking about plot holes (even really minor ones like this) in these films, honestly don't think about it that much or at all.
At this point in time in the Superman universe, there is NO WAY Lex Luthor should know Superman is from Smallville at 7:51, so I can see why they decided to omit that dialogue. That is where Clark Kent came from in the first movie, and Superman tells Lois he is from Krypton, which she puts in The Daily Planet. Luthor read and knew that about him. Also, I HATED them showing the 3 Kryptonian Villains being arrested at the end. The first time I saw this movie as a little kid, I thought they fell to a bottomless death in the fortress, and that was FAR more satisfying to me and more believable. I have since seen these deleted scenes and "most" of them are good and add to the movie.
@@SoundJudgment yes I'm aware. The Richard Donner cut of S2 was shot at the same time as S1. That footage had Kidder's original features. But in the Richard Lester cut, which was shot a year later, you can see had surgery done in the theatrical version.
@@gamecube8885 Do you know the average film time duration in the 70's? about 1 hr 10 mins. I saw it in theaters when it came out. Superman was a long movie.
A funny thought, if his fortress is in the arctic, wouldn't that put it on Canadian territory? Making him a Canadian citizen like back in the 30's. The Daily planet was named such after the Toronto Daily star started the series for the two creators. Amazing how a young man started in one country just to end up being claimed by another.
There’s a line of dialogue between Lex and Otis that lets the audience know that Superman flies to the North Pole a lot. Otitis figured he went there to ski, but Lex had a different hunch. Superman’s fortress is located somewhere in Alaska.
The last scene was interesting where Clark Kent seems to recognize the tall bald guy and then goes into a side room as if to change into Superman-does he? Does he think that guy was Lex Luther?
Good that this didn't make it. It was frankly bad. The movie is silly and cheesy but boy was it amazing....esp to a boy who was so young then. What a Superman he was.
When he gives up his powers at the fortress, where did the car come from going back to Metropolis? Also, in the 3rd movie, he goes to the fortress, after destroying the fortress in the 2nd movie.That car was a reused scene from the first movie, that Lex Luthor had rugged for remote control.