This happens in Spawn #10 (1992). Also can we take a minute to talk about all those heroes stacked up? Like someone 100% is eating some ass in that panel.
They really made superman look ominous though haha😅. Also really liked your interview on Space Ghost. I’d love for that show to get revived I feel like if the Voltron Animation team or even Young Justice animation team would do a great job with it
Fun fact: the issue was written by either Neil Gaiman or Alan Moore. For a couple of issues, Todd wanted to see what other famous creators would do with Spawn, and it was a great marketing opportunity. Some writers he had on were Neil Gaiman, Alan Moore, Frank Miller, and some others that I have forgotten.
I love the idea that spawn was imbued with the power of other comic heroes. It seems more like the hopes of comic readers, like these other heroes were saying dont give up. Your one of us. Stand proud.
And then he is just spawn at night time, because daylight weakens him but Superman is solar powered....so it would cancel out. but at night time he could still be regular spawn. lol
@@arthurlam751maybe he was describing encounter with Giganta, or it was one of those adventures where he was shrunk somehow or maybe it was one of them people from Jimmy Olsen 64 planet
It was at this point that McFarlane realized that he became the very thing he set out to destroy: a toy company that makes money by putting a big guy in a red cape and giving him every superpower he can think of until he's basically a god.
@@TMF979Resurge No, it's roasting McFarlane because of all the fighting over his legacy in the comments and because people forget McFarlane is a toy company.
@@TupocalypseShakurso you missed the point by splitting hairs. Talking all this saving the industry he hired in one of the most respected writers in history of the industry and didn't pay him and he sold the character to Marvel. Stop.
When Greg Hyland parodied this scene in Lethargic Lad, he had the lead character crying because the child was drawn so terribly. He also made it a running gag where each story would end with "Such and such a character, created and owned by Greg Hyland FOREVER!" with little hearts on it.
McFarland giving readers a bit of hope of happiness because it was getting too dark. While (Rest in Peace Muira) Berserk fans continue to struggle throughout the serious watching Guts go through literally hell non stop.
@@hainleysimpson1507 Facts. I guess I kinda discounted the whole thing because of what happened after. I mean they way Griffith did Guts. The man literally fell into a catatonic state. I never seen Guts get that low and not get back up. I just wanted to do a godfather. Look what they did to my boi!
Todd was the artist but this particular issue was written by Dave Sim famous for his Cerebus indie comic that ran for 300 issues and held that record for a long time. Spawn broke that record with 301. Its important to attribute this issue to Dave Sim as he felt very passionate about the message in it on how Marvel and DC were garbage.
Eh, maybe better to keep him where he's skilled instead of raising him to a position he'll be incompetent at. Salvage his reputation by not getting him in over his head.
Ah Spawn issue 10, one of the most hypocritical/masturbatory comics ever written because how can Mcfarlane publish this while cheating Neil Gaiman out the profits his characters made and immediately replacing them with legally distinct versions. And then he tried to intimidate Gaiman into not pursuing a lawsuit
@@DarkJusn2020 Marvel comics came in to help pay for Neil Gaiman's lawsuit on the condition that he'll come write for them. He won the case and gained sole ownership of his character Angela. He then went on to write Marvel 1602, where in the forward he dedicates it Mcfarlane "To Todd who made this possible."
@@TupocalypseShakurSlight clarification, Gaiman was given joint ownership over certain issues. There were three characters that Gaiman was given ownership over when MacFarlane tried to skirt around some of Gaiman’s characters but didn’t make them legally distinct enough.
Todd: Hey you corporate guys are demons for taking the creations of artists from them as your own! Neil: But it's cool when you do? The champion of the independent artist is the president of the 3rd largest comic book publisher in the US. Just like a good nerd, Todd hated the corporate guys bcuz he wasn't one of them...yet. Oh, and Todd didn't write this issue. He doesn't have the writing chops to do something this good. Issue 10 was written by a true independent and advocate for creator's rights, Dave Sim. And don't try to retroactively make Spawn a metaphor for Todd being trapped in a horrible deal with Marvel, with Hell represnting the Big 2 and Malebolgia bcuz Todd came up all of the ideas long before he got in the industry as kid. This issue by Sims placed that idea onto the character.
Its better spawn comics without any issue of this (DC and Marvel guys) the original spawn has already top with al simmons character.. nothing beats the idea make a deal with hell ! Batman is the second dark comic i can enjoy, this both character spawn and batman can be in the same screen one day.
Superman has been hated a lot recently but I still see him as that symbol of hope he’s supposed to be and he’s the literal godfather of all comic book heroes no matter how much they try to make me hate Superman I can’t it makes perfect sense they chose to look like Superman to get through to spawn.
It definitely was. This was after he had burnt his bridges at Marvel as well as facing criticism for being a bad writer. So what better way to stick it in their faces than by bragging about not being under contract
I wonder when he mentioned "Champions" did he mean the Marvel on-and-off team or the team from the HERO RPG of the same name. I'm guessing the former since the latter would be too obscure and beneath Macfarlane.
Honestly now that I’m older I understand this part way more especially the part where the hero’s say their creators sold them out hits true af nowadays.
Todd climbed ALL the way up his own ass on this one. Getting on the highest possible horse about how creators should own the right to their characters and corporate ownership is evil, and then turning around and not giving Neil Gaiman ownership of Angela.
I love spawn. The art drew me in as a kid but as i got older I really found that the story and lore kept me reading them. I wasn't really into many comics. I liked spawn, ghost rider, punisher, and Savage dragon.
When the hellspawn passed by the cages of heroes passed, the reader asked "Will you be able to do good by them with all the power they've given you?" The hellspawn replied, "Well, if I faced the world's despair all at once, it might give me a little trouble." "But would you falter?" "Nah, I'd win." When the hellspawn approached the final caped prisoner, the caped prisoner asked, "Are you a hero because you give others hope, or do you give others hope because you are a hero?" At that moment, the caped prisoner opened his Domain, _Truth and Justice,_ its pure sincerity meant that the hellspawn could not escape its influence." "Stand proud", said He-Who-Came-First, "For them." "For when it comes to keeping hope alive, through darkest night, you alone are our legacy."
I actually remember this issue! And it was quite a bit before my time, too, - as a Gen Z - but I recall picking up the spawn stories written by the guest writers (Miller, Moore, Gaiman and Sim; I looked it up and this one was Sim’s.) Personally, I liked Gaiman’s one the most, but this one stuck with me as well - for self-evident reasons.
It was so assenine, the context at the time was that some of the image creators use to take pot shots at the big two because they felt cheated, all the while they were all somekind of C tier or D tier artist like Jim Lee and Todd MacFarlane, I mean think about the fact you had some of the greatest artists of their generation in the 80s during a high point for the X-men and daredevil as well as for the individual comics of each respective original Avengers team member, hell! That decade shaped the movies and the shows!
The beautiful thing is also when Spawn realizes that he is not in the cage witg others cuz his writer didn't sell his rights of him and in a way saved his soul. To have a chance for the future.
After making Todd lost Angela because Gaiman sold the rights of the character Todd screwed him out of proper payments and then got sued.. Rules for thee not for me. Todd is the best.
i love ur choices for comic videos, i mean who the hell is spawn but sounds dope, can't wait to learn about him, and maybe talk about anything that u find interesting regardless if its dc or not like warhamer 40k?
If only spawn could get a manga adoptions then this story would expand more about how creativity is being sucked out of its beautify and being repackage for marketing and there’s a limit on one’s creativity with spawn break the very chains and liberating these animators and manga artist from there depraved lives and allowing them to create without any restrictions with the ability to finally rest. Idk something like that
I couldn't really take it that way due to the kind of hero Spawn is. Count it as misunderstood bias, but Spawn is a tragic anti-hero. He's not someone you want to aspire to be. Sure, he's a tough character doing his best with the hand he's been dealt, but it's also his fault he has those cards to begin with. (Not to get too into the metaphor, it's just hard for me to root for Spawn when he's often the source of his own problems) Perhaps to other independent creators Spawn is a shining inspiration to try and make it on your own. To never give up on your creation. However, the Creators of the biggest known heroes are already dead or at the very most retired by this issues release. So I don't really know what the issue was going for exactly. Which is probably why it's stuck with me for so long. I happened upon this issue in a random stack at a comic shop and genuinely thought it was jerking itself off by bestowing itself with honors from more famous heroes. I'm reminded of Dante's inferno where Vergil, Dante's favorite philosopher, just shows up so he can specifically guide Dante around because he thinks he's such a cool dude. Which only gets more confusing for me now that I'm finding this issue had a guest writer.
Spawn was all about making Todd money. Don't fool yourselves. He did what any owner does. He pimped out Spawn right out of the gate lol. He's a tool with talent.
