No matter how bad his film is Christopher Reeve is still a class act. The poignant expression on his face as he puts the American flag back upright the first time. Class act.
It's really too bad this movie wasn't handled differently. A movie about superman forcibly disarming the human race, and the resulting social upheaval would actually be cool if handled properly.
@@theradgegadgie6352Superman 4 had Deleted scenes with another Nuclear Man that had white skin witv fluffy hair, and was not very smart. He was a lot more like bizarro. 3 was basically a bad Superman but with the same intelgegence as good Superman.
@kungfufilm6367 I remember now. I had Bizarro mixed up with someone else. That first Nuclear Man was played by a British actor called Clive Mantle, known for his roles in Casualty and The Vicar Of Dibley. He was a huge guy, the same natural size as Lou Ferrigno.
+Lady Wanderer Yeah, why does he shut down immediately? Shouldn't his body work like a laptop? Sure you unplugged the power chord but you still have a battery to last you a while. Superman works like this too. He gets his powers from the sun, so when he's badly defeated he just flies to the sun to recharge. This really reminds me of vampire films where the shadow of Nosferatu/Dracula would cause instant withering of flowers. Infection doesn't work fast like that. Even his victims go through a period of sickness.
Remember that one episode of Powerpuff girls where a new superhero comes to town but purposefully puts people in dangerous situations just so he can save them and get the glory? What if Superman...actually that might explain Man of Steel a bit better
Except Superman did NOTHING to put anyone in danger in *Man of Steel.* He was having a miserable time trying to _stop_ the chaos and not doing very well at it. The movie made it clear that he was in way over his head and too inexperienced to handle the situation. Oh, wait. I forgot that it was acceptable to accuse *Man of Steel* of things it never did instead of judging the movie based on what it actually did.
Nostalgia Critic reviewed this movie yes, but I enjoy what Brad did with it. Also I just have to point out. Brad's voice = fine chocolate Doug's voice = The piano wire scene from Audition.
I'm surprised this comment got as many likes as it did. Of course Snob fans tend to enjoy exploitation films, which makes them more likely than general audiences to have seen Takashi Miike's squick masterpieces.
+gantzisballs Actually...why hasn't Brad reviewed Audition yet?! I guess 1999 is past the cut off date? You have to admire the dedication to depravity that film has though. The actress playing the villain is such a diehard method actor, she actually self induced vomiting for the "watch me feed my gimp scene" even though the vomit he licked up was fake. They changed vomit between shots.
Okay, I'm just going to say this...I think with some tweaking and changes, the Nuclear Man could be an awesome villain. Give him a new origin, tweak his powers, update his look, and he'd be a great addition to the comics.
Superman IV did have one good purpose: Christopher Reeve, in exchange for doing this, was able to get financing for a project he had wanted to do for years. It was called "Street Smart," and it revived the career of an actor who had spent the last decade struggling to find work since he had been on a kid show. The actor? Morgan Freeman.
Because there is no "dark side of the moon". There's a side of the moon that we never see from Earth, which some people call the "dark side of the moon" or the "far side of the moon", but all of the moon receives sunlight during the course of its day, just as all of the Earth receives sunlight during the course of its day.
That would be effective, to teach him about humanity's greed and fear of mental illness. And to tell him that hanging on in quiet desperation is the English way.
I feel like this movie manages the almost impossible: it covers Superman, a concept that has been handled poorly on many occasions, and manages to do it in a bad way that actually makes it entertaining. Like fucking up Superman is like fucking up a peanut butter and jelly sandwich. When the comics make things too ridiculous, or when Man of Steel gets the tone wrong, it's always an epic failure that nobody likes. But this movie manages to make things ridiculous, while maintaining that perfect childish level of cheesiness that makes watching it for the first time feel nostalgic. It's like getting a glimpse back to childhood: when you'd play with toys and set up these crazy fights between two action figures, and they knock over blocks you put up, and in the end you have one of the action figures pick up a Hotwheels car and place it in a little jail cell and say "You're busted, evildoer!" This is just one of those movies that just inspires childish creativity.
+KamekAdvance "Fucking up Superman is like fucking up a peanut butter and jelly sandwich." That is... fantastic. You are absolutely correct. What makes Superman interesting is when he CAN'T use his godlike power (do you save Lois, or Hackensack, New Jersey?) and has to decide who lives or dies, or has to THINK as opposed to just punch the problem away.
Y'know what could've been a far more interesting movie? If Superman resolved to rid the world of nukes but no one supported him so decided to do it all in secret, not realizing the political repercussions that would happen later. Then Superman would feel terrible and everyone would hate him until he did something awesome to make them like him again.
Yeah I've read the original story too, and it is just as naive as Superman IV - he gets the two leaders in the same room and they can't figure out why they are fighting, so Supes says that it is obvious they are just pawns of munitions manufacturers. I laughed my ass off. That is so simplistic it is almost a parody of a "peace" message. Complex geopolitical issues can't be just wished away like that.
+dudeman5685 A reflection of common feeling at the time, though, and exemplified at its most extreme by the (then) recent Gran Chaco War, in which both sides were supposedly backed by the same arms supplier.
Superman IV: The Quest for Peace may not be beloved by Superman fans, but Souperman IV: The Quest for Piece is a must-own for any fan of superheroes getting it on.
+Teep Wanna know something even weirder? The villains in SUPERMAN III were supposed to be Bizarro and Braniac. That is where the super computer and the alternate Superdrunkman came from. Budget cuts really suck, don't they?
The painful thing was is that Reeves was great- GREAT! - as a darker, more intense Superman, like, possible Oscar nomination great. But it was in service to such a shit script and direction, his performance wasn't appreciated.
From a purely objective standpoint, Superman should go for Lacie rather than Lois. The only reason Lois ever begins to truly care about Clark is when she finds out that he's Superman; once she "forgets", she goes back to ignoring/insulting him (Smallville's Clark/Lois relationship is more believable, since they actually formed a respectful bond over time and Clark was able to show courage in his "non-super" form; once Lois found out about his secret she was already beginning to love Clark anyway). In Lacie's case, however, she cares for Clark, despite all his apparent goofy nerdy ways, and would probably love him even more once she knew he was Superman, rather than his "super-ness" needing to be an absolute requirement like it is in Lois' case.
+S.A.M. Wouldn't it be funny if she hated Clark the moment she found out he was Superman? Ie. the nerdy "needs a good woman to give him guidance" routine was all an act, and thus Clark Kent is a lying jerk because he thinks humans are too stupid to figure out he's Superman?
Monroville Oh, that would just be DARK. Superman rejects Lois, thinking he's found someone who will accept him in Lacie, but then she rejects him and he loses them both.
Comparing Superman IV to Man of Steel is a great way to understand what was wrong with New 52. Superman IV was the Silver Age at its worst, random powers, hokey dialogue and cheese. Man of Steel was probably the best of New 52, and it understood Superman less than Arrow understands Oliver Queen.
You know, for all of Man of Steel's faults (Believe me, there is a lot of them and I don't consider it to be a good movie by any stretch.) It at least LOOKS pretty. The CGI, while incredibly obvious, did allow for some of the most exciting flying sequences this side of the How To Train Your Dragon films. Now, do I think Man of Steel is a good Superman movie? Nope. I consider it to be the forth best...by default. I consider it to be better than Superman Returns, Superman III, and Superman IV in that order. The best ones being Superman: The Movie, The Richard Donner Cut of Superman II, and Regular Superman II. But, that's just me. I do respect Brad for his steadfast opinion.
This was actually my favorite film in the series, the one I grew up with. They need to actually reprint this film with all the deleted scenes back into it.
Hey Brad, you should review "The Trial of the Incredible Hulk." It is a low-budget movie spin off of the Bill Bixby '70's show. It also features Daredevil in his film debut.
Well, not really, because you see, Superman takes energy from the Sun but canonically he could (and will) work as a sort of battery for the star making it eternal, becoming a Super God inside it and....and... ... I'm being an idiot right now, right?
Erm, no it wouldn't. It wouldn't even be a fart to the sun, it would be more like... a tickling hair folicle. The sun is a huge nuclear reactor the diameter of 1.4 million km (865,000 miles) - compared to the Earth's 12 thousand km. Throwing them into the sun is the one thing in this film that actually makes sense.
I was making the standard issue "Thanks for being reckless superman!" joke. It would still shorten the suns lifespan though, regardless of it being a significant amount of time or not.
Coming back to this years later, Jon Cryer was actually a really fucking good Lex Luthor in the Supergirl TV series on CW. Honestly, it's my favorite interpretation of the character in live action, because he's hilarious AND a bastard.
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"Stop trying to distrack me with my erection, Canon, that only works 80% of the time" Either a bad choise of words, or a very unexpected confession from the Snob.
I just love you, Cinema Snob. You've delivered the affectionately scathing cinephilic goods for such a long time, but I think this one might just be your masterpiece. :) Thanks for the hearty laughs, sir.
lol the thing is I've never bothered seeing part 4 and I said "let me guess, the prison guards somehow survived that car crash" and sure enough, what the hell.
Superman 4 is a bad film, but an enjoyably cheesy bad film. Man of Steel is a decent film, but not a great Superman film. Zack Snyder himself has described Superman as a boring character and wanted him to be a brooding anti-hero. If he didn't want to make a Superman film...why call it Superman?! Why not create a new superhero for the modern audience or use one of the hundreds of dark and brooding anti-heroes from across comics and manga? Yes, Superman has killed at least 5 times in 90 years, but Superman would weep and be emotionally devastated at inadvertantly killing or failing to prevent millions of lives lost and an entire city destroyed. He wouldn't french kiss in front of Metropolis's ruin. That's something Deadpool would do. That's something Frank Castle would do. That is NOT something Superman would do!
Oh hell yeah if its ever on the telly on a Sunday afternoon then i will sit and watch with a couple of beers and i will have a great old time with it, its not bad its just realky cheesy and come in it was made by Canon studios and they do the best cheesy movies just look at Cyborge,Masters of the universe or something like thst those movies were so crsppy and cheesy they were wholly entertaining now wherher they were good or not is a mute point the point is can you sit there and be entertained by these films and yes you can, lol..hell i love Canon films they are bad cheesy and cool all at once..
At least this movie had the courtesy to rebuild everything he and the villain destroyed and managed to fight in space where no one can die or get hurt. Not even man of Steel did that
Oh Brad, don't you know? "That in a Superman film not one person dies. Not one person dies". Sure Chris, whatever you say. No really, that is a quote Christopher Reeves said talking about this movie that he wrote. Look it up. It's amazing. Oh come on, Lenny Luthor is the most enjoyable part of this movie!
Great review. I actually have a soft spot for this one, and SUPERMAN III. They've grown on me. I appreciate how you draw some attention to its more positive aspects like the model effects and Nuclear Man being a genuine threat to Superman, even without the use of kryptonite or magic. This is probably one of those rare films that actually could be improved with a remake.
The thing I remember most about this movie was the scene where Jon Cryer's character was playing an NES. And as a kid I was so jealous of him because my parents refused to buy us any video game console. I was pleased that Brad showed that scene because it saved me the pain of having to watch the film again just to verify that I wasnt misremembering it. And yes, I was also jealous of he actors in the live action segments of The Super Mario Brothers Super Show because they also had an NES as a prop on the set.
5:08 - Quite. In fact, I'm prepared to give any one or one-half of the Two And A Half Men a shot at Luthor, post-Eisenberg. 5:29 - Quick, check the cutting room floor of Blues Brothers 2000...I'm sure the rest of the scene is there.
I am actually really looking forward to Batman vs Superman. I also loved Man of Steel. It's really the only movie I completely disagree with Brad on. It's because of that I'm not really looking forward to the Midnight Review of Batman vs Superman. I feel like they're gonna go in and not even give the movie a chance. Though, I could be wrong. Look at his enjoyment of Transformers 4 after his rage at Transformers 3.
+Stoned Gremlin Productions First off, fuck yeah I'm talking with my favorite Internet personality. Seriously Mr. Jones, you're the only person whose opinion I trust when it comes to movies. Second, it's was just an unfounded concern. I know you'll have a fair opinion on the movie. There's a chance I'll disagree with it, but that's a chance I'm willing to take. I do hope you enjoy the movie, but if you don't well...then you don't. Looking forward to the review!
That feeling you get halfway through your work shift where you realize you've made a complete ass out of yourself in front of someone you consider a role-model.
you may hate it I don't reason for all the hate it gotten was most of you didn't see the extended cut but sorry I have to defend my fave movie but it unfair that everyoneIs bashing the movie to hell . frankie croft smales
Why does Superman's cape blow around so much in space? They do know there's no air out there right?... Well apparently not since he can talk in space too...And Lacey doesn't freeze... Physics are not strong in this one.
gene hackman is the only reason to watch any superman movie , in fact cut every scene that doesn't have him in would improve all of them to tolerable levels
Gene Hackman is to Superman IV, what Sean Connery was to Highlander II. Both movies are shit, but with actors like Hackman and Connery, they become shit with class... I think Superman IV: The Quest for Peace is one of the worst movies ever made... But at the same time, its very fun to watch. It kinda has a Plan 9 from Outer Space feel to it... The film fails on just about every level of filmmaking. Its almost amazing... Story wise, this movie is just an excuse to preach against the cold war, and shove anti-nuclear propaganda in our faces. The whole film feels like a ninety minute PSA special. Go back and watch the scenes where Superman speaks against nuclear weapons and tell me you don't get that vibe... P.S... With no intention of starting an argument, I just want it to be known... I love Man of Steel. I consider it to be my all time favorite Superman movie... But I still thought your MoS jokes were pretty funny...
It's actually consistent with character whether we go with "Superdickery" of Golden Age Superman or with the more modern adaptations/characterizations of Superman, even in Red Son or Justice Lord-incarnation. Superman would probably favor a world with weapons of mass destruction.
Two 80s films in a row I used to watch a lot when I was a kid? Awesome! :D Don't worry, you're not destroying my childhood or anything. I leave that to George Lucas. lol