John Natalie was a pro dirt bike racer, he is now a pro (championship) atv racer and has said its easier to be fast on a bike than an atv. I dont hate bikes or quads and dont understand why anyone does. be happy to have a motor between your legs
Quads are rough on a track, no joke. Those guys are some GOOD riders, and I'll bet they could hop on a bike and smoke me any day. Mad respect to the guys.
I dont know why your comment got "too many negative notes." I have a yfz450 and a yz250 and I can definitely say that the quad is a lot harder to ride around an mx track. They are more physically demanding because moving around something that heavy takes more muscle than a bike (obviously). And they are also harder on your body, because all four wheels on the ground creates more contact points....its just common sense.
what some people don't understand is the straight axle at the back of the quad makes it throw around on the bumps so much that its so much harder to hold on, and in corners you hang off the side and pull yourself back up instead of hanging by g-force, bumps and jumps are much harder on quads than dirtbikes, dirtbikes is more about ballance and core work
I stay on two wheels, but I gotta say these guys have nuts the size up grapefruits! You wouldn't catch me dead on that track with 500lb quads barreling at/on me
Much faster??? Not really.... At Steel City MX in PA a couple years back they ran the pro quads and the pro bikes on the exact same track set-up the same weekend and the fastest lap times recorded for both bikes and quads were less than a second apart. I wouldn't consider that much faster. Do you race??? I would like to see you hang 2 laps with one of the top quad racers in the country... They are much faster than you think. Yes, I have much respect for bike riders too....
Yeah, they are closer than you would think but it also depends on the track layout. No doubt about it bikes are easier to maneuver around a track and will be faster the more technical the layout, but the pro quad guys are FAST!!! I raced quads for 5-6 years and ran up against some of the top pros during open track events and couldn't believe how fast they were when I thought I was pretty fast lol. I don't want to take anything away from the bike pros either, they are amazing riders!!!
Now that I think about it in my old age I have began rolling the rhythm sections as well! Maybe I should ride a quad and I'll be able to compete on a high level again! LOL
They are 10x harder than a bike to ride a. because they weigh twice as more, making it TWICE as more hard to adjust it in the air if you fuck up on the take off of a jump. They lose control easier, so you have to physically man handle the bike way harder, because it's 300-500 lbs of weight trying to throw you off instead of 200. They are a million times harder to save all around simply because of the fact that it has more surface area touching the ground than a bike-
true but race and practice are differant. ive seen lots of guys get taken out by quads because they dont have common curdacey on the track. they dont look behind them before and after getting on the track ive seen so many of my buddies get taken out by them.
It would also help if I add the fact that ATV's have 4 different classes. These A, B, C, and D classes. These could be D or C class quads. I race in the A class with my KFX, which has a pro circuit built motor, new sprocket, new spun aluminum wheels, a lighter tube aluminum chassi, Maxxis Razr Cross tires, and many other things that brings my quad up to a solid 82 bhp.
i dont have a problem with quads. just quad riders. around me they all seem to think the whole track is theres. i dont think quads and bikes should share the same track
put some american pro atv riders on that gate and it will be at 3 times the pace of these guys.. the canadian pros are A class or pro am at best most of them are about B riders in the states..
im willing to bet you're wrong.. i didnt realize 2 time pro ama atv motocros champion chad weinen and champion John Natalie and they both pulled away til chad got huckabucked onto a tough block.
and if one of the four tires hits incorrectly, the quad tries to do a front flip. Then take into concideration going over a whoop section like that. You have a 350lb machine only going max 3 feet in the air, whipping itself forward, trying to crush you, and you have about one second to correct that. Then, you have cornering. The weight throws itself around, and tries to roll EVERY time you corner over 10 mph. They're way more physically demanding. Try racing one. You will understand then.
@magie321 well i got a 08 yfz 450 and a yz450f (my dads) im good at riding both and can whip the bike. i rode dirt-bikes up until 2 years ago then got a yfz, and a supercross track is more challenging and by far more fun with an atv than a bike.
