This is literally the perfect starting gun for a bolt action 9mm because of the fact that it can take double stack 9mm RIA mags. Lots of capacity with plenty of short range power in a quiet package. Perfect for a companion gun if you have a 9mm double stack RIA. Total zombie sniper lol
Let me know if you are still doing those. After this covid19 business settles down and all the new gun buyers have calmed down a bit, I'd be looking for something interesting like that. Kind of a modern day destroyer carbine.
i have one of the first run 22tcm rifles. not so pleased on the rifle, but i want to put a 16.5 inch barrel and make it a suppressor host. i would like to be able to use it while sniping hogs or whatever happens to be messing with the land around the shop outside of town. the smiths here seem to be allergic to the very idea.
One of the big benefits of 9mm over 300 BLK is that there's plenty of 9mm loads that expand just fine at their velocities. I have a Ruger Ranch rifle -- a bolt-action -- in 300 BLK, and the subsonics are plenty quiet .... but they have no expansion at all at those velocities. It looks to me like Hornady just stuffed some 308 or 30.06 bullets into the little 300 BLK cases, and those red-tipped bullets are meant to impact at 2K+ fps ... so they behave just like a FMJ.... which sucks. For plinking and impressing people at a range, I'm sure it's fine. But for shooting an animal, it sucks badly.
Have Accurate Molds make you a rebated boat tail RNFP bullet. Use Lead with just a smidge of tin as an alloy (not Wheel Weights) and Paperpatch or Powder coat it. If you really need a HP, you can either modify the mold yourself or send it off to hollowpoint molds to have it modified for a pin. At Subsonic velocities, boat tail bullets are nearly 2x as efficient as flat base bullets of the same nose profile and weight (less velocity loss).
@@powderkeg5332 They won't be subsonic. There aren't 220-grain varmint bullets. I suppose they could put such a small amount of powder in the case that a 90-grain bullet stays subsonic, but it won't expand at those velocities either.
No, no way you are getting 357mag ballistics out of any 9mm no matter the barrel length, unless you are comparing to a snub nose, which isn't really a comparison as 357 out of a snub is basically 9mm. 9mm uses a fast burning flake powder. Past 4-6" it is already going at near max velocity.
@@modernpawn Except no frieking way you're getting 1415fps with 125gr bullet! I have Ruger PC9 with carbine with 16" barrel and the only bullet I could get to shoot this fast were light 90-100gr bullets!
@@DimaProk GRT shows a 16" 9mm loaded with 125gr FMJ's and 5.4gr of N340 (common stand-in for Herco) getting 1433fps lol. With a 125gr Lead bullet, 5.8gr of N340 shows 1474fps out of a 16" barrel. 158gr Lead bullet with 5.3gr looks to run around 1283fps (most 158gr .357 mag is rated at around that out of a pistol). 4.1gr with that 158gr lead bullet would be a nice subsonic load @ 1076 fps and 407 ft/lbs (a good suppressed 100yd deer load, especially if you used a rebated boat tail bullet like an Accurate Molds 36-152A, IMO). All are below 31,000psi (That subsonic load is going to run around 18,000psi) (Standard pressure 9x19mm SAAMI max is 35,000psi CIP Max is 34,000psi) - Numbers are acquired by running variables through an internal ballistics modeling program, use safe loading practices, use at your own risk.
It's an old post, but if you own a 22 tcm and are getting good accuracy I'm happy for you.. no sarcasm at all intended. I got a tcm a couple years ago and as many others it's been plagued with horrid accuracy. I had mediocre expectations to begin with. After several outings the best it managed was a 6in group at 100 yards.. for a small caliber round with a loud report it's pretty much useless for me. I get for more use out of it as a 9mm plinker that's killed several roaming nutria on the property. And for the kids it's a lot cheaper to waste ammo.
