One thing I don't believe people think about is how stable is your ammo, such as keyholing. The big mistake is manufacturers tend to screw up there ammo over time, or put out bad batches. Love when they change the formula and don't tell anyone. Try and make sure the bullet weight fits the twist, but it goes way beyond that as it doesn't always work that way.
Wow, good eye openning information here. I just purchased my first suppressor. I plan/planned to use it on multiple types of firearms of different calibers and barrel lengths. I bought a Silencerco Hybrid 46m thinking that was the best option. The Silencerco videos make it sound that way. He didn't mention anything about barrel length being an issue. I didn't see anything on the Silencerco website for the Hybrid 46m mention barrel length consideration. They don't mention using loctite at all. I have about $800.00 in muzzle devices, aside from the cost of the silencer itself. I haven't even shot a round through the silencer, and now I'm kind of worried to do so.
This very important information for all suppressor owners and future suppressor owners. As usual great content that is to the point and covers all the bases. 👍🏼👍🏼👏
I ordered a carbon fiber bore alignment rod. Still waiting for my can so I can use the rod haha. Always have loctite on standby but I see a lot of people say if you torque the muzzle device to 35 lb/ft they’ve never had one come loose. I ended up with a xeno hub and muzzle device system for my can with their taper seal. I agree with eying through the bore for a quick tool less check. Great video as always
This was a great video that i'm absolutely going to revisit . I'm currently shopping for my first can and I was worried about how to avoid baffle strikes and damaging the suppressor or myself. Can you do a video about suppressor maintenance next?
Sandman S and K, Nomad L, Wolfman. Never had one fail on me, are you still dumping on DA because they had a bad batch from a bad vendor? Did you get burned by Sierra5?
Not even coping with my purchase but my s5 has been amazing, got about 1k rounds through it have only had it a couple months but it’s phenomenal for its size
Another good video with some excellent info. Although I check for tightness regularly, I never thought about shaking the rifle to check for other loose parts, something I will incorporate. I would suggest a video on the pros/cons of various muzzle devices since there are likely lots of new suppressor owners with the reduced approval times. Although I generally prefer flash hiders, I only mount muzzle brakes to act as a sacrificial baffle. I'm sure many other viewers would like to know your take on this. Keep the outstanding videos coming.
For many reasons I prefer direct thread. Any suggestions on keeping direct threads from backing off so easy but still detachable? I wish washers were an option. I’ve heard teflon tape is an option or even blue loktite.
Also running ammo not designated for the can, can cause baffle strikes, end cap strikes or blockages. Once you get a round jammed in the can, you will continue to back up rounds until either you get a blow-out, or a catastrophic event.
Orange loctite is like blue but heat and vibration resistant. I use it on everything gun related after i had a holster that kept coming loose with blue. It's been 3 years and i haven't had it come loose since.
Thank you for doing the reviews and providing the information no one else is doing. If it were possible to invest in a RU-vid channel I would be purchasing shares because I have no doubt this channel will be successful. Never thought I would consider a $1500 suppressor but after watching the PTR review, I'm considering and looked online for options to purchase at my go to dealers. What efforts have you made to get a Griffin HRT or dual-lok or Recce??? I've been holding off on making a purchase until I can see some objective test for the newer Griffins. Congrats on the success of your channel
Thank you for the kind words and your support. We have the newest Griffin cans being sent to us soon for testing. With wait times being so low, many manufacturers are struggling to keep up with demand. Thanks for watching 🍻
Is torque alone good enough for a direct thread suppressor? I got my can extremely hot and tightened the direct thread mount to the can as well as the suppressor to the barrel. Now im thinking I should red Loctite it.
My gunsmith accidentally attached the muzzle device with a crush washer instead of shims. I didn’t notice until the suppressor went down range. Baffle strike + destroyed end cap. Not good.
Soooo many suppressors.. Can you give me a top 3? that you would recommend for an 11.5, 5.56 build I'm doing. I know there are variables but what would you run on your SHTF setup? Thank you brother. Love your channel.
Red loctite...Ask yourself: how much hotter do you get it with a torch to remove the can vs. a couple of mag dumps? And wouldn't you rather use hot water to loosen rockset vs taking a torch to your expensive toys to loosen red locktite?
@@Ertactical I don’t have a criminal background if that’s what you mean. My background of firearms shooting and knowledge comes from firsthand shooting guns while growing up. I also too a huge interest in guns in video games and specifically in escape from Tarkov which has a really robust gunsmith feature that compelled me to learn more about guns and accessories. I’ve also completed the intro to firearms class. Instructor intro to firearms and CCW classes.
Red Loctite's max advertised temperature is just over 350 degrees, and easily turns to dust by 450-500 degrees of sustained heat. Considering just 1 30 round magazine can get your silencer threads up to 400-500 degrees, not a great option. The reason Rocksett is so popular is because it's a ceramic that can retain it's strength at 2000 degrees of sustained heat. Just because you haven't had a silencer back off on you doesn't mean the Loctite is still doing anything. If you are talking about a hunting rifle or something where you are not doing sustained or rapid firing, then it'll probably stand up (maybe). But why risk it? Loctite 272 is about $35 on Amazon for 1.2oz, Rocksett is $27 for 4oz. Why wouldn't you just go with the Rocksett considering less expensive and more effective?
I run dedicated suppressors on each weapon, never have used an alignment rod, use red locklite and thousands of rounds later I have never once had a problem.
So you just take their word on the matter, as opposed to someone independent conducting testing that you could do yourself? Could it be that the Cat cans may not perform as advertised? This channel provides valuable info that manufacturers sometimes may not like.
So rockset my muzzle device, then locktight my adapter to can? I'm expecting my first suppressor in the next 2 weeks. Waiting on Capitol armory to ship.
Funny you mention sending cans down range. I carbon locked both my SF SOCOM RC1 and my FA665-212 Mini on the same day. It was my first time ever carbon locking anything too. Ended up doing the SF prescribed method to unlock them. Man that was painful in that I was nervous as hell. No issues, no baffle strikes, or anything bad. It just freaked me out a bit. Is it just me, or do the SF cans seem to like to lock up quicker on the SF brakes?
hahah yea thats nuts! I have had that conversation with them too.. Its one way of handling it.. I cant say I love SF cans. Thanks for your positive feedback and comments.
@JH-bp4mu 7 inches does NOT stabilize the 220 and it wobbles going through. If you're mag dumping, eventually you will have a baffle strike depending on length of can.
@@loneczgunner6562 I have shot a couple hundred rounds of 220 grain subs through my Q sugar weasel with a 7 inch barrel using a full length Q thunder chicken can, but I have not had any baffle strikes yet. Does anyone else think I should be worried about this ?
@JH-bp4mu yup... they use a 1 in 5 twist rate on their 300 blackout barrels don't they? Double check. But a 1 in 5 is much better than a 1 in 7 twist rate. Should stabilize those 220grs no problem.
I have collected cans over many years. Since launching this channel many companies have sent us more. we will continue to do reviews regardless of what we pay, full price, discount, free they all get measured the same. Thank you! We love sharing good info and helping the quiet 2a community, thank you for the positive feed back and support =)
My guess is that a lot rides on how well the muzzle was threaded. Factory threads should mostly be good, but gunsmith threads should probably be scrutinized closely. The guy that has done all my threading to this point has been super accurate! However, I am about to have to start using someone else due to the fact that my guy seems to no longer be around (he is/was an old Marine who had already had previous heart-related issues) so, not much choice but to find a new smith.
The issue with red loctite is that it loosens up at 500F...which is not hard to reach when using a suppressor. CAT recommends, for example, to see how many rounds (and at what cadence) it takes for your Ti suppressor to reach 550F, and videos have shown that it's less than a single magazine (IIRC it's like 15 rounds). Like, obviously it's worked for you, but it wouldn't be my go-to threadlocker for things like this.
I finished the video just in case I can learn something new. It is very informative! I knew all that, but it is still nice to watch a more structured video about it. I hated it when certain manufacturers played word games with the 'full auto rated' feature, especially on Ti cans. If someone takes it at face value and went to town with it, the can won't last long if it doesn't blow up.
I've randomly gotten an end cap strike on my Rugged Obsidian 45, & I didn't notice until after I was done shooting. Just barely dented the end cap, even though the suppressor was tightly attached
