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Your questions answered about the CZEM Drill One electric dirt bike.
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The Czech Electric Motorcycles Drill One is an electric dirt bike that utilizes electric motorcycle and mountain bike components that results in a lightweight electric dirt bike that falls into the lightweight e bike category. The Drill One has an electric motor that produces a nominal 11kW and a peak output of 15kW, which is an impressive amount of power for a bike this size. It features a Manitou Dorado front fork and an Elka rear shock. The handlebars are Pro Taper MTB bars with a 3" rise and are mounted to a direct mount stem. To stop the bike, it's fitted with Hayes Dominion 4 piston brakes. CZEM helped update this test model with a 21 inch Excel Moto Wheel and that has been a big improvement on this bike. To learn more or purchase the CZEM Drill One Electric Dirt Bike, Check out Triton Electric Bikes here: bit.ly/TritonDrillOne
Is it a Sur Ron Destroyer? Due to testing, that question is yet to be answered in this video but I did want to address why the CZEM Drill One would be compared to a Sur Ron X. Despite their differences in price, both electric dirt bikes are lightweight bikes weighing in at 115-120 pounds. They both utilize mountain bike brakes, handlebar, stem, fork and shock. They are both mid drive chain driven motors. They both have similar battery capacity. They both have motocross style wheels mounted to mountain bike style hubs. At this point in time, there are no 2 electric dirt bikes of this category that are more similar than the CZEM Drill One and Sur Ron X.
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CZEM Drill One: (0:00)
Cost: (01:41)
Where To Buy: (2:08)
Availability: (2:29)
Battery Life: (2:40)
Range: (3:39)
Top Speed: (3:56)
Charge Time: (4:00)
Regen: (4:05)
Wheels: (4:10)
Sound: (4:37)
Hill Climbs: (5:11)
Pedal Kit (5:51)
Skid Plate (6:10)
Riding Modes: (6:33)
Battery Removal: (6:45)
Sur Ron Comparison: (7:09)
Conclusion: (8:10)

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@ElectricCycleRider
@ElectricCycleRider 3 года назад
For everyone upset about the price: We are a media channel REVIEWING the bike. We do not sell this bike or any bikes for that matter. For everyone upset about the title: We are having a laugh. It is meant to be tongue in cheek. Don't take it too seriously. (00:18) For everyone that is still upset after reading this: Go ahead and throw a tantrum below, thanks!
@andrewwright.
@andrewwright. 3 года назад
UK price starts from 8.5k. SuronX price is about 4k if you shop about or even cheaper if you buy second hand.
@MrSparrow12345
@MrSparrow12345 3 года назад
I hate them lol ahhh bloody make a sexy ass bike like that and not make it affordable for us peasants lol
@stuartmullan2576
@stuartmullan2576 2 года назад
Good on you mate, you know the only people crying about the comparison are Sur Ron owners. Lol. "He's picking on my bike".
@wirebrush
@wirebrush 3 года назад
I'd really like to see this compared with a Sur Ron with $6k worth of upgrades. That would make an interesting video.
@ElectricCycleRider
@ElectricCycleRider 3 года назад
@wirebrush I plan on it, thanks for the note man!
@r.t.hannah9575
@r.t.hannah9575 3 года назад
Yes!!! Excellent suggestion!
@grownnotflown2
@grownnotflown2 3 года назад
Spot on!
@kunit26
@kunit26 3 года назад
Yes
@yohvh
@yohvh 3 года назад
I think the surron beats the range and top speed if upgraded. For casual riding.
@caramelzappa
@caramelzappa 3 года назад
I said it on the other vid, and it's still true: For that price, it HAS to be better than the sur-ron. While a comparison between them is fine since they are in the same category, there's no question that at 3x the cost of the sur-ron, if this bike wasn't better it would be DOA. The question becomes, is it better to buy this and ride it as is or upgrade a sur-ron. Lots of peoples sur-rons end up costing 9K after they replace the battery, controller, forks, etc. That's the comparison I'd like to see. What's the value difference between a $9k, upgraded sur-ron and the Drill One, which one provides better value once you've built them up to the same price.
@mediatool9596
@mediatool9596 3 года назад
Bullshit...on all fronts. $9300 for a 1 hr ride!!??? F that forever
@ElectricCycleRider
@ElectricCycleRider 3 года назад
@caramelzappa Thanks for the note! That's just it, I said that they are the same category of bike but I did no actual comparison here. I agree that comparing a modified Sur Ron vs Drill One is a good metric and while I do plan on doing that in the future, this one is not a comparison video. It's a Q & A about the Drill One. The title is meant to be a little humor from the last video. Appreciate your feedback! 👍
@ausforce1
@ausforce1 3 года назад
@@ElectricCycleRider Please do another ride review video, we all want to see how the bike rides with the new wheel and tire setup? I'm about to put a deposit on one in Australia but I'm hesitant because there are no comprehensive reviews anywhere :(
@salesebmx4696
@salesebmx4696 3 года назад
@@ausforce1 ride videos in Australia are up now on our RU-vid channel ebmxtreme have you seen them? Cheers Nic
@chrisculpen9205
@chrisculpen9205 2 года назад
My friend already bent the trailing arm here in Hawaii. He's back on his Sur Ron.
@realohanaadventures5133
@realohanaadventures5133 3 года назад
its also a pocket destroyer! LOL
@MakinMoneyISeasy
@MakinMoneyISeasy 3 года назад
I assumed Sur Ron just had a new model called Destroyer lol
@ElectricCycleRider
@ElectricCycleRider 3 года назад
@N Haha, sorry to throw you off. Just having a little fun with those that got riled up from the last video.
@MakinMoneyISeasy
@MakinMoneyISeasy 3 года назад
@@ElectricCycleRider I was just trying to wrap my head around how fast their DESTROYER model was going to be lol.
@ElectricCycleRider
@ElectricCycleRider 3 года назад
@@MakinMoneyISeasy 😂
@MrSparrow12345
@MrSparrow12345 3 года назад
budy we are commenting on them ripping us off for a bit of metal and Tec not the vid dont get a complection lol
@MakinMoneyISeasy
@MakinMoneyISeasy 3 года назад
@@MrSparrow12345 What? I legitimately have no idea what you're trying to say. Proofread and punctuate.
@Tryingtobe_matt
@Tryingtobe_matt 3 года назад
9k is laughable for this . 😂 cuts off in “race mode “ ...... what good is race mode then . Definitely an easy pass , not a bad bike just not for $9,000 forget it .
@jacobkeller29
@jacobkeller29 3 года назад
9K wow. No way
@wildhurstmanor
@wildhurstmanor 3 года назад
£7195 🤯
@Tryingtobe_matt
@Tryingtobe_matt 3 года назад
@@wildhurstmanor lol 0% chance lol
@bcrproductions3862
@bcrproductions3862 3 года назад
Laughable Currently, wait a couple years, they're going to be a HOT ticket
@bcrproductions3862
@bcrproductions3862 3 года назад
If they stay Alive?
@dudea3378
@dudea3378 3 года назад
People don't mind if you do comparisons between products of different price classes, but when you say it's a Sur Ron "DESTROYER" it just feels clickbaity and kinda implies that it's a much better value. It's like saying a Bugatti is a Honda Civic "DESTROYER"
@budddove6480
@budddove6480 3 года назад
Makes it seem like he'd profit from these being sold. Instead of being neutral on the matter.
@ElectricCycleRider
@ElectricCycleRider 3 года назад
Guys, the title is meant to be a little tongue-in-cheek. I'm having fun with it. Don't take it so seriously...
@budddove6480
@budddove6480 3 года назад
@@ElectricCycleRider Do you benefit from the sells of this bike in anyway?
@ElectricCycleRider
@ElectricCycleRider 3 года назад
@@budddove6480 No, I don't benefit from the sales of the bike. I'm just reviewing and testing the bike like all the other bikes on my channel.
@budddove6480
@budddove6480 3 года назад
@@ElectricCycleRider oh ok, I honestly thought you did. I would recommend you watch a channel called "Jack Cecil" on youtube. He owns a company called HP Logic and did an in depth build of a sur on. He has the record at over 90mph. He's a great guy and if you're close id guarentee he'd love for you to do a segment on it. Please take a look at his build series on it.
@samferrimy6863
@samferrimy6863 3 года назад
Ridiculously expensive! And thank you for all the work you do!
@mediatool9596
@mediatool9596 3 года назад
Agreed...who TF has $9300 to piss away these days? For a 1 hr ride!!???
@squarecracker
@squarecracker 2 года назад
@@mediatool9596 People pay 10K for mountain bikes all the time lol
@sprucelodge
@sprucelodge 3 года назад
I have had the pleasure of a test ride on both the sur Ron and the Drill one , it’s like comparing a Mercedes to a Kia , the build quality of the drill one is top notch ,
@salesebmx4696
@salesebmx4696 3 года назад
Spot on there. Chalk and cheese. But we compare there as they are 50kg style free ride moto peg and moto seat bikes. We could add kuberg to this comparison perhaps too. Drill one is actually comparable to a mx ice bike. SurRon is not.
@Zi9makin9
@Zi9makin9 3 года назад
YES! Ive been watching a lot of your vids recently cuz im interested in e-bikes, and I wondered if you´d post another vid about the Drill One! :)
@budwhite9781
@budwhite9781 3 года назад
I really like this Drill One a lot. I enjoy my upgraded Sur Ron a lot, but if this was in my budget, I would buy and have a lot of fun on this one too. Variety is still the spice of life.
@ElectricCycleRider
@ElectricCycleRider 3 года назад
@BUD WHITE That's absolutely right!
@crypttion808
@crypttion808 3 года назад
Dude Thank you for the review!!!
@johneisel7831
@johneisel7831 3 года назад
9k, dream on!
@noremac022
@noremac022 3 года назад
$15k in Australia 😡 I think those that will pay, and there will be, $9k USD / $15k AUD have more money than brains! Great review though! What will be interesting, which will last longer, we know anything Chinese made is NOT made to last, and the Czech do actually make good stuff!
@eddieb3915
@eddieb3915 3 года назад
Great job on the review. Answered all of my questions from the earlier video, Lol.
@ElectricCycleRider
@ElectricCycleRider 3 года назад
Thanks Eddie!
@mainyakmainer7162
@mainyakmainer7162 3 года назад
AWESOME TUCKER 15K view's already! I've been talking with them(cz)for over a year now to get mine. Thanks for updates and giving me the opportunity to build wheels for you. Yes they are completely similar to the SR but so very different. The D1 actually fits a normal size adult unlike the SR's whitch kinda makes you look comical because looks like your riding a kids bike/pit bike. These hybrid midsized EV's witch use both MTB & MC parts are awesome! Has made a completely new segment to the MC market! This is the real only thing the two bikes have in common I think. One is a entry model and the other is a pure performance expert model. Each doing well what the company's designed intention was. SR`S stamped aluminum frame compared to the tubular aluminum D1 frame is the first of many BIG difference between the two.. Glad you got your hands on it and keep up the awesome work your doing 🤘
@EBMXtreme
@EBMXtreme 3 года назад
you are bang on here...
@ElectricCycleRider
@ElectricCycleRider 3 года назад
@MAINY'AK MAINER Right on! Thanks for the support Josh! 👍
@hicksfamilyadventures7757
@hicksfamilyadventures7757 3 года назад
great review dude, the comments on these two bikes are always entertaining. I had almost the exact same questions/comments on my review. pretty funny. keep up the great work.
@ElectricCycleRider
@ElectricCycleRider 3 года назад
@Hicks Family Adventures Thank you! Haha, definitely entertaining and passionate to say the least. Appreciate the note and you too. Hope to ride with you in Aus sometime!
@hicksfamilyadventures7757
@hicksfamilyadventures7757 3 года назад
@@ElectricCycleRider a ride together would be epic!
@shillgo
@shillgo 3 года назад
Thanks for sharing! Another question - what is the seat height, and wheelbase? How does it compare in size to the Sur Ron?
@Nobody-dc8dp
@Nobody-dc8dp 2 года назад
That frame looks so good and rigid
@Beniamin6665
@Beniamin6665 3 года назад
SurRon is so Amazing that It sets the stage and standard to be apart of.
@thalesletus1
@thalesletus1 3 года назад
sur ron isn't anything special. it just looks good and is cheap. all stock it's slow, weak and shit suspensions.
@Beniamin6665
@Beniamin6665 3 года назад
@@thalesletus1 When the SurRon is modified it is an insane machine...
@thalesletus1
@thalesletus1 3 года назад
@@Beniamin6665 just like anything that's modified. Stock it sucks tho. It's just affordable.
@Beniamin6665
@Beniamin6665 3 года назад
@@thalesletus1 Other than the fact that the fact that it’s price is really good is amazing... Also we are doing our Sur Ron Rift model in March. It’s a fully loaded version that normally cost like 7200 bucks to to mod without labour. We have our factory stock version that you can get for 5200.00 USD. Fox forks?, parelli’s and everything. Put together at the factory. “Stock”
@thalesletus1
@thalesletus1 3 года назад
@@Beniamin6665 I got an ebike that cost about that. 6.5kwh and 30kw of power. Rokshock in the back and Manitou Dorado in the front with moto wheels. Might not look as streamline as a sur ron but will destroy any with whatever mods you can throw at it. The price is good because everything is cheaply made on it. Weak controller, shit suspension and it's really undersized for anyone 6 feet or above.
@MIKE9D8
@MIKE9D8 3 года назад
I’m curious how you like the manitou fork on it? I’m thinking about putting one on my sur Ron. Badass bike tho. For all the haters, you need to upgrade your sur Ron with 35/4000 worth of parts to get it where most want it anyway. And it still won’t be this beast. That thing is cool
@speedmonkey75
@speedmonkey75 3 года назад
For the price, I think the cheaper Cake is a better comparison. I love your channel, but we need to see a shootout between the cheaper Cake, a modded Sur Ron (Luna, hook him up!), and this bike in the future!
@ElectricCycleRider
@ElectricCycleRider 3 года назад
@Chris Ronan Thanks! Hope to make it happen.
@daviddoub8251
@daviddoub8251 3 года назад
Just learned about the Kollter Banshee ebike. I would love to see a review if you can get your hands on one. I enjoy your channel. Always excellent content. Cheers and Thanks!
@ElectricCycleRider
@ElectricCycleRider 3 года назад
@David Doub For sure! We will! Thanks.
@moren0d1
@moren0d1 3 года назад
I’d love to see a preview of the Torp motors bike they are developing, to include Controller for the Sur Ron.
@MTO_Brothers
@MTO_Brothers 3 года назад
For me, there are 3 huge drawbacks to this bike that make me prefer the Surron: - motor is exposed (I smashed mine on the Surron and yet, it had a bash plate, so can't even imagine riding this one), - the battery cannot be hot swapped, - it's ugly (but that's just my opinion), looks too raw.
@markkitaoka8783
@markkitaoka8783 3 года назад
Thanks for answering questions about the bike.
@ElectricCycleRider
@ElectricCycleRider 3 года назад
@Mark Kitaoka Thanks for understanding what the video is about! 😂
@markkitaoka8783
@markkitaoka8783 3 года назад
@@ElectricCycleRider Will you be comparing this to the SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket against the Sur Ron with the BAC45000?!
@ElectricCycleRider
@ElectricCycleRider 3 года назад
@@markkitaoka8783 Well now I guess I have no choice...
@markkitaoka8783
@markkitaoka8783 3 года назад
@@ElectricCycleRider YAAAAS!
@ianhill20101
@ianhill20101 3 года назад
Ive melted my freerider motor driving like you do i wonder if i could get me hands on that motor, im a mad scientist and need to get that its a bucket list thing.
@rayheppner8391
@rayheppner8391 3 года назад
Looking forward to the review of the Evo version, wish they had an optional range extender pack under the seat. Keep up the great content. Sure a lot of sensitive Sur Ron fans out there. The CZEM is cheaper than a bunch of high end E-mtb and even some that don't have any assist, so I am sure there is enough of a market for this bike. I think I would choose it over the CAKE I just think it is great to see some options in this market segment. Be cool to see a comparison of the new Evo vs the modified XX.
@ElectricCycleRider
@ElectricCycleRider 3 года назад
@Ray Heppner Amen to that. Thanks for the note.
@josephschultz4097
@josephschultz4097 2 года назад
I agree looks are a big part in peoples buying decision's this looks awesome, personally I don't like the look of the Cake but love the fact they made a street legal one you can plate would love to do this with the drill...
@winsoftheday3648
@winsoftheday3648 3 года назад
how long does it last in Eco and can you remove that feature where it cuts off red mode
@tintin6291
@tintin6291 3 года назад
Top speed on sur ron is 47 mph at $3,600 Top speed on drill one is 55 at $9,000 A new controller and battery for sur ron is rounded Up to 2,500 which adds up to $6,000+ Upgraded sur ron can go past 55mph and if tuned correctly can go 86mph. The stock sur ron lasts a bit longer than an hour on sport mode depending on how much you weigh. I would say overall nothing beats the sur ron yet. The price entry is there The customizable setup is there. The after market parts is there And the batterys are getting better from litespeed with more options
@mobbgeniustv3394
@mobbgeniustv3394 3 года назад
Love the channel. I’d like to see this bike compared against either a SurRon that’s been heavily modified or something in its price class like the Cake, Kuberg, or KTM.
@ElectricCycleRider
@ElectricCycleRider 3 года назад
@Mobb Genius TV Thanks for the note, I plan on doing that in the near future.
@brentozdemir8175
@brentozdemir8175 3 года назад
I think a comparison video of this bike to a Cake would make a very interesting video since they are at similar price points and are a little juicy than the Sur Ron X. In my opinion, they're both overly expensive for what they offer compared to Sur Ron anyway but still would like to see the comparison between them!
@pjellingsen
@pjellingsen 3 года назад
interesting bike, not cheap, not a lot of range, and for that price you can get a conventional dirt bike
@ronaldbeck8689
@ronaldbeck8689 3 года назад
I’m on the same page as you
@gilly3380
@gilly3380 3 года назад
..obviously.. But they're obviously 2 very different things
@ronaldbeck8689
@ronaldbeck8689 3 года назад
I think we all know it was obvious you could spend 8k on a normal dirt bike. I’d take the 8 or whatever this bike costs and buy a sur ron and a crf250 or something
@aevorozco
@aevorozco 3 года назад
Way too expensive. Price is too steep, will stick with Sur Ron.
@lemurdreamur9257
@lemurdreamur9257 3 года назад
A conventional dirt bike weighs twice as much, doesn't come with a lifetime of fuel, but instead high maintenance costs. Something often overlooked when comparing prices ;)
@meter4282
@meter4282 3 года назад
Compared to the Sur Ron are the “ergonomics” any better.? The stock Sur Ron is a little cramped for me, I’m working on pro tapper bars (sold out right now), and possibly other mods to make it a bit less cramped. I just got my Sur Ron X, and I really like it! Does the Drill have better fenders? Basically does the Drill eliminate the standard mods you outline in your videos needed on Sur Ron ( tires, brakes, fenders, bars, bar mount, etc.)?
@GustavoTestaCorrea
@GustavoTestaCorrea 3 года назад
You forgot about the Kuberg Freeride with a 14kw controller and 30mah battery. You may ask Kuberg California to get one for testing. It's cheaper than the Czem and looks really close to it.
@rayheppner8391
@rayheppner8391 3 года назад
Would be great to see a test on the UBCO FRX1 as it falls into the same category. I like the looks of the CZEM but the power cutoff is very concerning, had that on Oset 20.0 it cut out at the worst times.
@ElectricCycleRider
@ElectricCycleRider 3 года назад
@Ray Heppner Certainly plan to make that happen! Thanks for the note.
@fikesfikestugboatshawaii7834
Awesome.
@r.t.hannah9575
@r.t.hannah9575 3 года назад
Wildly overpriced for what it is.
@goodgame1488
@goodgame1488 3 года назад
Stick with gas bikes until they stop ripping people off. 😂🤣 if I have to I'll make gas myself just to protest this shit. 😂🤣
@DaveDuzzit
@DaveDuzzit 3 года назад
You can literally do a 20kw hub motor conversion on an old dirtbike with a 6kWh battery for half the price.
@exnihilo415
@exnihilo415 3 года назад
@@goodgame1488 I've thought about putting a portable petroleum distillery on a trailer and powering it from a Tesla supercharging station as the ultimate protest vote. Making your own gas right in the electric charging parking spot. :)
@Nobody-Nowhere
@Nobody-Nowhere 3 года назад
@@DaveDuzzitwith hub motors the weight distribution is horrible
@DaveDuzzit
@DaveDuzzit 3 года назад
@@Nobody-Nowhere I've been riding a stealth bomber for years no problems. I even take it off kickers. I've never found that to be true.
@t2omicro822
@t2omicro822 2 года назад
So, given 10k to blow, would you buy 2 surrons or one drill?
@jozkacerny4042
@jozkacerny4042 2 года назад
what would you recommend now? Surron, KTM or CZem?
@selimhan2023
@selimhan2023 3 года назад
This is a great bike
@matox01tekk
@matox01tekk 3 года назад
can it compare to upgraded suron ? like 72V + controler you know the usual which would put it in the same price range as this one
@Carbon2wheeler
@Carbon2wheeler 3 года назад
Im in a few surron groups and between all the upgrades most users do they arent far apart price wise.
@stenhousemuir
@stenhousemuir 3 года назад
What groups
@michaelrasch107
@michaelrasch107 3 года назад
The Drill One is an amazing bike, that fact has should stand on its own. If all the short sided people who can't see that and want to bring up the cost difference are not addressing the typic at hand. Is the bike better or to say it in not a lame way is it a Suron killer. Well?
@1lifeonearth
@1lifeonearth 3 года назад
competition is a good thing, surron needs to step up their game a bit and fix a couple issues with their bikes. having said that, I just ordered a surron and its going to arrive in april, i cant wait!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@ElectricCycleRider
@ElectricCycleRider 3 года назад
@1Lifeonearth Absolutely! It's great to have options. It's only going to push the industry forward.
@organicoceans4459
@organicoceans4459 3 года назад
I liked when compared the ktm freeride. There like the only ones other than this new 9k one.
@bcrproductions3862
@bcrproductions3862 3 года назад
Too much money for only 5+ mph over Segway, and the range is very disappointing. But it would quick AF with 12-15 fewer lbs. Thanks for the Q & A Tucker
@carlbovin9169
@carlbovin9169 2 года назад
Saw a video when this overheating after like 10min ride... Don't know if they fixed that
@syrob123
@syrob123 3 года назад
I have original RevX (now it's called Drill One). 1. Sur Ron, Kuberg ect. looks like a toy compering to Drill One even after upgrades. 2. Top parts and technology used in Drill One makes the price!!! Its not a Chinese product. E.g. Only 2 fictionless bearings in the motor costs about 300-400$. 3. It's not true that on the highest mode battery will lasth for only 1 hour. The battery is enough for about 2-2,5 hours. 4. Perfect weight distribution 50/50% 5. Over 450Nm of torque on the wheel, so climbing on even steep hills is easy. 7. In my opinion the most beautiful frame in this class of vehicles.
@gmy33
@gmy33 3 года назад
how cn you say its hard to keep traction on the rear ? .. i was used to gas and clitch .. now i drive silent and the art is at the throttle .. with the advantage that i can actually hear my grip !!!
@bhendy2962
@bhendy2962 3 года назад
Lot of people Baggin on it.. probably the most gangster e bike ever made in looks. Great video man.. I own a sur ron but that thing is way cool. Love the look.
@billwilhite2190
@billwilhite2190 3 года назад
Is the stool so I can get on it?
@GeddyRC
@GeddyRC 3 года назад
Biggest thing holding me back from grabbing an e dirt bike is the lack of a clutch. I rode dirt bikes for a couple years and I modulate power like crazy using the clutch because my right hand has some wrist issues - while I'm riding through rocks and getting kicked around, I have a much easier time modulating a lever in one direct than keeping my wrist twisted the right amount. Particularly considering the bike is electric and so I can't hear the engine (to get a better idea of where I am on the throttle position), a clutch lever would be amazing. I'm honestly really surprised that no manufacturers have added a left-side lever that cuts throttle power, essentially imitating how a clutch lever would function.
@ElectricCycleRider
@ElectricCycleRider 3 года назад
@Geddy V I hear you. Having a clutch would make all of these bikes better, especially when the going gets rough. It seems to be both a cost issue for the manufacturers and they want to allow both brakes to be up on the handlebars, another thing I am not a huge fan of. I would be in favor of a rear foot brake and a clutch up on the bars. Thanks for the note.
@alextaylor8776
@alextaylor8776 Год назад
There is one, it’s a trials electric bike. I can’t recall the manufacture but they have a clutch type system mounted on the left bar on their electric bike just like a motorbike. Don’t ask me about the rear brake cause I can’t remember how they set this up. Do some research, you’ll find it.
@Disasterless
@Disasterless 3 года назад
I wonder how it would compare to a Surron with a BAC8000 and 72V battery? With those modifications they're a bit closer in price range.
@salesebmx4696
@salesebmx4696 3 года назад
Tucker... great quality video from you. We notice you did not mention there are actually 2 options with motor sprockets and gearing. High torque low mountain gearing ( which we find best for this bike) and the higher top speed sprockets. Changing between sprockets is easy and takes only a few minutes. Which sprockets are you running on your Drill? High speed or high torque? Thanks EBMX.
@ElectricCycleRider
@ElectricCycleRider 3 года назад
@Sales EBMX Thank you! I have not tested the high speed sprockets, only the high torque. This is what was sent to me! 👍
@salesebmx4696
@salesebmx4696 3 года назад
@@ElectricCycleRider great Tucker. The mountain gearing is definitely the way to go on these bikes after testing both as the higher gearing sacrifices to much speed off the line.... It may be good though for your viewers to understand this setup actually limits top speed on this set up on 19 inch rear to 75kph and on the 16 inch rear to 66kph with the motor at 7000rpm. Most customers bikes will actually be limited to 6200rpm controller tune which will decrease top speed by a further 8%. The overall gearing ratio for the mountain sprocket is 10.88:1.
@goopman5627
@goopman5627 3 года назад
For everybody complaining that this bike is $9,500, go by a cheap Chinese e-bike or nothing at all. In my opinion 9K is more than a fair price. This is clearly a high quality piece of equipment with a ton of research and development behind it to get it to your front door all nicey nice so you can just jump on it and go play. This is not something that's stamped out on some giant multi billion dollar companies assembly line. These are essentially made to order and a very niche product. Just the battery technology alone in my opinion is worth it. This is a big boy toy for people with big boy money and clearly targeted towards people who want a high-end product..not for someone who typically stores their bikes in their parents' garage or outside in some dilapidated shed. Stop complaining and go out and make the money to where you can comfortablely afford one of these.. as there are lots of people out there that can and will...or find something better to do than complain about shit you'll never have..
@ElectricCycleRider
@ElectricCycleRider 3 года назад
@Goop Man You bring up some great points. An unfathomable amount of resources are required to develop any motorcycle and we are lucky to have small companies that take a huge risk to develop bikes that push the industry forward. I'd like to add that EVERY bike in 2021 is expensive. It doesn't matter if it's gas, electric or a straight up bicycle. I don't want to discredit $9K for being a small sum of money because it is indeed a lot of money but most new mountain bikes fall within this price range. Something to consider!
@jacobhomstead9036
@jacobhomstead9036 3 года назад
Do they have street legal options?
@fatguyonalittlebike3336
@fatguyonalittlebike3336 3 года назад
Looks really cool. Definitely a beast. To rich for my blood though, id rather use the extra cash to buy a 2nd sur ron and upgrade both pretty nice for friends, and family to ride.
@ElectricCycleRider
@ElectricCycleRider 3 года назад
@Fat guy on a little bike Fair enough! 👍
@tuwun4753
@tuwun4753 3 года назад
90v Strom Bee look way more narly
@bellaggio1770
@bellaggio1770 3 года назад
gnarly
@joshjorgensen2476
@joshjorgensen2476 3 года назад
I’m looking into the different wheel setups for this bike. I’m about 5 foot 8 170 pounds what would be a good fit for me? The marathon with the 26 inch downhill looks nice but I’m wondering if the trail 19 would be better ? The enduro has the 21 front 19 back. So many options with not a lot of description.
@ElectricCycleRider
@ElectricCycleRider 3 года назад
@Josh Jorgensen I think the 26" MTB wheel is downright scary on this bike. a 19" moto wheel with moto tire is a much better way to go in my opinion.
@wildmongoose7037
@wildmongoose7037 3 года назад
What gauge spokes are on these wheel? Nice bike!
@chriscall3425
@chriscall3425 3 года назад
Think they missed the mark on the battery placement and lack of motor protection, if they would've moved the down tube to the norma position and put battery between top tube and down tube, it would be protected and give some mounts for a bash guard.
@ROGERWALDMAN
@ROGERWALDMAN 3 года назад
GREAT VIDEO ! FOR THAT PRICE YOU COULD GET THE SURRON ENDURO AND STILL HAVE MONEY LEFT TO BUY A FIREFLY ALMOST !
@stevearrowood7430
@stevearrowood7430 3 года назад
I like this guys videos and like the way he rips on a bike. I have a fully modified 2020 SRX and I can assure you my Fox suspension and Woody's Wheelworks 21/16 wheelset are far superior to the stock D1. Not sure about my EMB controller kit being faster but has to be close. With all the bar, tubeless, no. plates all around and other goodies(that both bikes require for HS racing) I'm into it for 8k. Add that SR has produced for 3 yrs. with no frame breaks to my knowledge, the D1 has a lot to prove before any real conclusions can be made. I wish this Czech company well, they're great folks. And it looks like a bashguard would require a redesign or it would already have one. But it'll be fun as heck to see what happens.
@ElectricCycleRider
@ElectricCycleRider 3 года назад
@Steve Arrowood Thanks for the note Steve!
@mobbelectric2915
@mobbelectric2915 3 года назад
Hey Tucker... Quick question... Will the charger plug into a standard US outlet or will it require a Euro setup? I am a serious buyer and wondering.
@ElectricCycleRider
@ElectricCycleRider 3 года назад
@Mobb Electric It's a standard US plug! 👍
@conner9369
@conner9369 3 года назад
anyone buying this over a surron and upgrading BAC and battery is absolutely raving mad. The quality of this bikes build is less than that of a surron and its almost triple the price!!! insane.
@mre741
@mre741 3 года назад
And someone else that has spoke about this bike has said that he believes it is so loud do to the motor basically being pushed to it's full potential... maxed out
@adventureriders4515
@adventureriders4515 3 года назад
If putting ur money down on one of these type of bikes... would you buy one of these? Or the suron x at half the price? ... also is the range of the suron x better?
@dostacosmotos2554
@dostacosmotos2554 3 года назад
This is an awesome bike, but Id still have to go with the Sur Ron. Entry price is so much less and you can upgrade as your budget allows. Also, if I did get the Drill bike I’d still want to spend more money on it to make mods/upgrades that suite my riding 😂🤣
@staytogether27
@staytogether27 3 года назад
How about comparing it with Kuberg e-bikes? any chance to try Kuberg Free Ride and or Ranger?
@Beniamin6665
@Beniamin6665 3 года назад
The Kubergs Do not move as fast. I could be mistaken
@ElectricCycleRider
@ElectricCycleRider 3 года назад
@Arbie H. Hope to soon.
@MDUBZ
@MDUBZ 3 года назад
Vector Vortex review?
@MTO_Brothers
@MTO_Brothers 3 года назад
It's better than a stock Surron, but is it better than a Surron with 5k of upgrades, so that we compare two bikes in the same price range (fork, brakes, controller & battery)?
@toddgibbs1356
@toddgibbs1356 3 года назад
Agree with u mate sur Ron upgraded would smash this drill one don't reckon it's that much better tbh at all
@ElectricCycleRider
@ElectricCycleRider 3 года назад
@Riding Buzut Planning to do an actual comparison between a hopped up Sur-Ron and a Drill One soon.
@MTO_Brothers
@MTO_Brothers 3 года назад
@@ElectricCycleRider Looking forward to it! Thanks 🤩
@bellaggio1770
@bellaggio1770 3 года назад
Can you compare DRILL ONE with ELECTRIC MOTION bike? That's a much closer comparo than with the surron.
@Adamec504
@Adamec504 3 года назад
Compare Factory KTM vs Drill one please
@mikeithgreen9966
@mikeithgreen9966 3 года назад
I’d like to see a Comparison in this, the cake Mx, and 2021 freeride(even though the freeride is more MX)... also this looks closer to size of the cake than the Sur Ron?
@ElectricCycleRider
@ElectricCycleRider 3 года назад
@Mikeith Green It's definitely bigger than the Sur Ron. The Cake is much wider and a longer wheel base with more robust suspension/swingarm/chassis but they are similar in height.
@mckfrye
@mckfrye 3 года назад
Im in Boulder and recently ordered this bike. Love to see it in person. Where are you? Triton could not get me the 21" front btw. I had to choose 26 or 19. What hub are you running in the front. I see its laced to an excel hoop but is the spacing on the dorado a problem when buying this upgrade?
@gapininja
@gapininja 3 года назад
Wut this is prety bad for 10k go diy i built my full sizs dirt bike 15kw 6kw battery both specs probb duble this bike for only 2300eur.insane spending 10k for this miny battery and motor
@AdamSmith-nw4rb
@AdamSmith-nw4rb 3 года назад
What are the details on the bike you built? You can barley have a decent pedal bike for $3,000 us
@MrRockLockster
@MrRockLockster 3 года назад
I was talking with Sheldon over at Triton and he said we can order a 21” as an add on. It’s going to be something around $350.
@mckfrye
@mckfrye 3 года назад
@@MrRockLockster he told me a 19 or 26MTB were my choices. I requested a 21 but he acted like it wasnt available. I made the deposit for the bike...9700 ish. Well see what i get, but i hope to get the shipping included as this video suggests, and i want the 21. Sheldon seems like an honest enough guy...im sure ill get good comm from him so im not too worried. Have you purchased from him before?
@salesebmx4696
@salesebmx4696 3 года назад
No issues with dorado spacing at all 21 inch wheel perfect. 👍
@Ubberwun
@Ubberwun 3 года назад
Paycheck destroyer!
@akammer1000
@akammer1000 3 года назад
Seeing the trend of 29" wheels in the mountain bike sector, I wonder why the electric bikes like these aren't adopting larger wheel size to get the benefits of bigger clearance and roll over compared to the small wheels? Is there something I'm missing?
@ElectricCycleRider
@ElectricCycleRider 3 года назад
@Adam Kammer Great question and I'll do my best to answer it correctly. A 21" front and 18"/19" rear is the golden standard for dirt bikes. Moto wheels are measured differently than mountain bikes. A 19" moto wheel with a moto tire is similar in diameter to a 26" mountain bike wheel. Beyond that, bigger wheels aren't necessarily better. They do roll over obstacles better but it makes the bike less nimble. It also requires more energy and power to get a bigger wheel rolling up to speed.
@hadesomegamoto7639
@hadesomegamoto7639 3 года назад
For the price it is more closer comparison to the Cake Kalk OR or INK
@Lubi6666
@Lubi6666 3 года назад
We have both Drill and Surron X, we gave both a 21 "wheel ..... Drill is much better in performance, the chassis is better, the brakes are also, and most importantly, it's bigger ... My son is 198 cm and can't fit Surron. When I switch to Drill, I feel like I'm enduring, unfortunately I'll have to sell Surron because I don't want to upgrade, it would be more expensive and it will still be small.
@SmokytheBear6969
@SmokytheBear6969 3 года назад
Sur-ron puts down big numbers and came in far cheaper than 9.3k+ tax , have bac8000 NXT display and the 72v litspeed pack/W Fisher Fab light came in alot less, can dial "everything" on the fly. If i had to choose again I'd save the money and do the minimal effort to updrage mainly the wait when dealing with Alan at ERT was only tiff . Would only buy the display from him if i build another
@gregleonard2846
@gregleonard2846 3 года назад
Have you ridden the Cake Kalk and if so how does the Drill One compare?
@ElectricCycleRider
@ElectricCycleRider 3 года назад
I tested the Cake here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-I3qz5YtQuTg.html They are both very unique bikes. Honestly kind of hard to compare the two. Both videos I have on the Cake and Drill One get my honest first ride opinions, check them out!
@gordondeitz7838
@gordondeitz7838 3 года назад
I would buy the drill one right now, if the range was considerably greater and the charge time a lot shorter. Let's wait and see what the drill 2 or 3 looks and acts like. 9500.00 bucks sounds a little steep to me as well.
@ElectricCycleRider
@ElectricCycleRider 3 года назад
@Gordon Deitz (godog) That's a fair assessment. Range/Charge Time/Price will hopefully be improved over time.
@Emtbwebb
@Emtbwebb 3 года назад
I really want this bike just wish the price would drop a little looks so nice
@gapininja
@gapininja 3 года назад
Wut this is prety bad for 10k go diy i built my full sizs dirt bike 15kw 6kw battery both specs probb duble this bike for only 2300eur.insane spending 10k for this miny battery and motor
@Beniamin6665
@Beniamin6665 3 года назад
Why do you want it versus SurRon.
@Beniamin6665
@Beniamin6665 3 года назад
We are doing a SurRon maxes out with all the bells and whistles, batteries, forks, breaks everything called the SurRon Rift. We are doing a Indigogo on it. Offering 100,000 pieces makes us give everyone a 7500 dollar bike for 5200.00 a piece.
@Emtbwebb
@Emtbwebb 3 года назад
@@Beniamin6665 watching it again i wouldn't want this bike, i dont like how the battery can't be removed quick!! Sur ron is a great bike just needs a lot of parts changing to make it feel better! I have owned my sur ron 2 and a bit years now and was hoping all the parts would be cheap but it seems there's a lot of company's hear in uk just trying to get rich from selling parts!! If your a clever business man you would sell cheaper and get a million customers! They should be getting cheap but now seem to getting more expensive! Its heading into a Motorcross life style, made for the rich only as always, people will give up and make there own for way less money
@Emtbwebb
@Emtbwebb 3 года назад
@@Beniamin6665 when are you doing this
@vancebivens6846
@vancebivens6846 2 года назад
How does this bike compare to a ktm freeride??
@kimreeg1
@kimreeg1 3 года назад
Kudos to you my man. You are bad ass and informative. I would love to race with you and get my ass kicked (maybe) So, we have been testing Surrons with Nucular 24f controllers and now ASI8000 controllers with 72 volt 400 amp homemade battery packs that are costing us $1000 in materials. You should test modded Surrons against the Drill.
@ElectricCycleRider
@ElectricCycleRider 3 года назад
@Surron Racing USA Thanks man!! I appreciate that! Hell yes, would love to go out and race around on the bikes you're building. Thanks for the note and keep in touch. 👍
@kimreeg3698
@kimreeg3698 3 года назад
@@ElectricCycleRider I plan on doing some racing. my email is kimreeg@gmail.com. Let me know when you are racing and maybe I will show up.
@gregorypatzelt6964
@gregorypatzelt6964 3 года назад
This thing is WAY better looking than a sur ron. Honestly, between these bikes I would just opt for a kuberg freerider with the 14kw controller.
@CO_Shaun
@CO_Shaun 3 года назад
Woody's Wheel Works! I get my touring bike tires put on there. Where's this track? I want a Sur Ron
@ElectricCycleRider
@ElectricCycleRider 3 года назад
@Shaun M They are the best! This is IMI in Dacono, CO.
@IncredibleCisco
@IncredibleCisco 3 года назад
You have to try a lmx 161. Same power, 10kg less weight 😁
@fpvlee1586
@fpvlee1586 3 года назад
Way way way less power 🤦🏼‍♂️
@zemso-germany4729
@zemso-germany4729 3 года назад
@@fpvlee1586 depends on what controller your putting in huh? even the stock lmx is just limited by software.
@ElectricCycleRider
@ElectricCycleRider 3 года назад
@IncredibleCisco It looks cool, I'd like to ride one. 👍
@GroovyVideo2
@GroovyVideo2 3 года назад
anyone know where to get replacement Killah fork dampener - ive tried replacing fork oil and it helped little - forks crapped out in 400 miles - not happy
@ow-my-achilles1106
@ow-my-achilles1106 3 года назад
Save your sanity. Save for a better DH fork. The new Marzocchi Bomber 58 is really good, for $999. Used DH forks are getting harder to find, but they are still out there for half, a round $500. They'll still be many times better than the disposable RST Killah. The damper was never meant to be serviced. The Killah is $500 new. Nuff said.
@shawnjimenez2078
@shawnjimenez2078 3 года назад
Compare this with Stealth B-52. Same price point (10k) Just saw another reviewing comparing that bike to the Surron.
@Buffetology
@Buffetology 3 года назад
Wait til you put a tuned ASI BAC4000 Controller controller from Glengineering.co on a Suron. It will smoke the drill one. Great videos
@bllgull
@bllgull 3 года назад
what V ? 60v 72v?
@SlightlyDazed.
@SlightlyDazed. 3 года назад
I'd like to see this against the ktm freeride at that price tbh
@ow-my-achilles1106
@ow-my-achilles1106 3 года назад
The Sur Ron really started the mass produced electric dirt bike segment. Plus all the modding for capability and power that is being served by the aftermarket. When an obvious direct competitor comes out, it gets compared. Does anyone have any other mass produced commercially available dirt bikes to compare these two against? The KTM Freeride is also expensive, but a different segment because of it's power and build, and the price reflects that. Quite frankly, the market for a 1 hour race electric bike that costs almost $9000 doesn't sound like a broad market. The success of the Sur Ron has been it's low entry cost. Guys gripe about the suspension and MTB bits (yes, I do too, I own one) but these can be addressed along the way to upgrading. A fully trail modded Sur Ron would go for about $8000+ all in. Battery, controller, suspension, controls, drive upgrades including sprocket, primary chain drive, wheels and tires. Which one can guys afford as an entry point?
@sk8moto
@sk8moto 3 года назад
how about the LMX 161?
@shredmas
@shredmas 3 года назад
My friend just bought a 2121 EM Escape. It was the same price as this Drill. How would it compare? I've seen your test on the EM bikes
@ElectricCycleRider
@ElectricCycleRider 3 года назад
@Neal Peters Thanks for the question. They are 2 very different bikes. The EM Escape is more of a trials bike with street legal options. It's very good in slow, technical terrain. The motor feels like it builds power a bit more linear and especially if your friend has the clutch (R) model, it is great for hard enduro and trials riding. The Drill One is more at home going a bit faster and would be better suited for single track and flow trail type riding.
@shredmas
@shredmas 3 года назад
@@ElectricCycleRider Thanks & yeah he doesn't have the R model. He wanted it but none in stock so he bought the other. He switched it to a digital clutch and didn't like that so it's back to a regen lever for today. Todays ride will be a 2020 KTM Freeride E, A Sur-Ron, My 2009 Zero XE with new computer programable controller & the EM Escape. We're in Southern Oregon. facebook.com/groups/3937611896268205
@ecotentsalida
@ecotentsalida 3 года назад
Don't be sorry brother. Keyboard warriors will always give you crap. Thanks for the review.
@ElectricCycleRider
@ElectricCycleRider 3 года назад
@Gene Carbonell 👍 For sure!
@marcbrooks8409
@marcbrooks8409 3 года назад
does $9,000 feel like a fair price for it?
@LarryRichelli
@LarryRichelli 3 года назад
I bought a 2021 Sur Ron and just sold it because to get it up to what I would want was going to be another 4K to 5K and I was not willing to do that. If I am going to go that high for a bike it would be the Zero. I know it a couple thousand more but it's it that 10K range. I would also take the $5K upgraded Sur Ron over this bike because it would last longer on a charge and go farther on a charge.
@actionsportster7686
@actionsportster7686 2 года назад
I sold my Sur Ron for pretty much the same reasons. One other thing about modding the Sur Ron is that not only would the bike be heavier, but it still would not hold up to hard riding. I've yet to see a electric dirt bike (other than the Alta Redshift) that is built to take the punishment of dirt bike riding. That includes the Zero and the KTM. These electric bikes are built with mountain bike components, which won't last long if subjected to big jumps, hard acceleration and braking, etc. If you're looking for something with the durability of a good dirt bike, you're going to increase the weight substantially when you start adding more robust parts ... and then you're looking at an expensive electric dirt bike. I think most people in this segment want something much lighter, but they don't understand the performance/durability trade off. If you're not going to hit big jumps, if you don't need quick and aggressive throttle response, if you're not going to take the bike off road much, then the Sur Ron is okay for that sort of thing. But beyond that, it not a bike that will hold up if subjected to more aggressive riding.
@justinb7039
@justinb7039 3 года назад
I admittedly like this more than a suron but the price is just non justifiable. I'd buy one of those sondor metacycles and put knobby's on it and could probably retrofit it with high end suspension and still come in under the drill one.
@FabiusMaximus1000
@FabiusMaximus1000 3 года назад
I knew that was Colorado. Is that Watkins?
@ElectricCycleRider
@ElectricCycleRider 3 года назад
@AZ ZR2 Close! It's IMI.
@justuschallman63
@justuschallman63 3 года назад
Any interest in reviewing the kuberg ranger?
@ElectricCycleRider
@ElectricCycleRider 3 года назад
@justus challman Yea, I'll hopefully try one out soon.
@justuschallman63
@justuschallman63 3 года назад
I got one of the first batch and it should be here sometime in March. I'm also in colorado and would be more than happy to let you thrash mine around!! Love the channel keep up the good work.
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