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Sur Ron top speed BOOST with CHEAP chain upgrade (more range too) 

Juiced Joyrides
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Installing this upgraded chain on your Sur Ron makes a lot of sense if you want faster acceleration, higher top speed, more range, and better efficiency all around. The stock chain on the Sur Ron / segway x260 seems to be very inefficient compared to the upgraded one I put on my ebike. Think about it, it's basically like riding the brakes if you're chain is causing this much internal resistance. The only thing stopping your sur ron / segway x260 from reaching a new top speed is wind resistance and internal resistance from the components. Every inch your sur ron travels the chain will be a factor in adding internal resistance, so by reducing this braking effect you'll get more range out of your battery as well as more top speed and acceleration. The new chain upgrade for the sur ron / segway x260 also sounds better, it's quieter, and feels better too.
amzn.to/3b54t2D - It's cheaper and faster delivery from Amazon but you'll need a chain breaker to make it fit your bike. This one has 130 links which is enough for any sprocket size, making it more versatile for any bike setup.
42t 104 Links
48t 106 Links
52t 108 Links
54t 110 Links
56t 112 Links
58t 112 Links
60t 114 Links
64t 116 Links
amzn.to/3OoyYPg - chain breaker tool to make the chain fit your particular sprocket.
At the time of this video posting you can order this chain cut to size from Charged Cycle Works for a little more money and not quiet as quick shipping.
chapters:
0:00 start
1:12 install
2:26 chain comparison
7:30 weight compare
7:51 first impressions
9:23 top speed
10:43 final thoughts

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@JuicedJoyrides
@JuicedJoyrides 2 года назад
See all my upgrades: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-RZvLWYtC0Ak.html Timestamps: 2:26 chain comparison 7:30 weight compare 7:51 first impressions 9:23 top speed 10:43 final thoughts
@t1ny03
@t1ny03 Год назад
The only reason your top speed changed is due to what you yourself pointed out; the inefficiency of the old chain due to ingress of dirt/lack of oiling. The increased rolling resistance/drag will remqin constant hroughout throttle range if anything increasing, thus reducing top speed. Greater efficiency less rolling resistance = less drag = easier for motor to spin up & keep on spooling = more top speed
@davideinstein7887
@davideinstein7887 Год назад
so the stock chain is good to go??? just clean it?
@GiveItGas69420
@GiveItGas69420 Год назад
@@davideinstein7887 you gotta maintain it, so yes clean it and oil it
@nxdboi
@nxdboi Год назад
@@davideinstein7887 Even properly maintained, o-ring chains are more rigid and resist rotation more than a non-o-ring chain. Non o-ring chains are much more high maintenance, though. They don't hold lube to the chain, which means it has to be oiled/waxed every few rides to stay in good shape. An x-ring chain is a good compromise. It is less resistive than an o-ring chain, but also hold lube due to the x-rings. X-ring chains are more expensive, however.
@je7647
@je7647 9 месяцев назад
​@@davideinstein7887219 chain best
@phmiii
@phmiii 2 года назад
A "non O-ring" chain does require more maintenance that an "O-ring" version. But the added power to the rear wheel is why I raced with "non O-ring" chains.
@voqzmk2
@voqzmk2 2 года назад
Just bought a Renthal R1 chain after watching your video :) Going to use it with my 56 Tooth Sprocket
@JuicedJoyrides
@JuicedJoyrides 2 года назад
Heck yeah! Happy riding!
@jonlock7150
@jonlock7150 Год назад
How do you like it?
@voqzmk2
@voqzmk2 Год назад
​@@jonlock7150 Its a lot better than stock, it has more range, more power but Top speed is only 2km/h more. And the throttle is a lot smoother.
@gazzy555joker6
@gazzy555joker6 Месяц назад
I'm glad girls are joining in the sur ron world!
@Fishfood007
@Fishfood007 7 месяцев назад
Have you always been so good at making videos?
@slembever
@slembever 2 года назад
i had the same experience , way quieter and reaches top speed faster, considering that you can get it for 20 bucks its prolly the best upgrade you can do to a surron.
@zimbronrons
@zimbronrons Год назад
it’s now 50 on amazon 😭
@sunnydays3476
@sunnydays3476 2 года назад
Stickers for horsepower 😂
@chachazyblue9897
@chachazyblue9897 2 года назад
I like you’re video
@JuicedJoyrides
@JuicedJoyrides 2 года назад
Thanks! I’m publishing a new video showing all the upgrades soon
@wavybabylive
@wavybabylive 2 года назад
I love your content bro I can’t wait to buy mine I got 1,300 saved up for far lol I’m obsessed
@JuicedJoyrides
@JuicedJoyrides 2 года назад
Nice! Thanks! Hope you get enough saved to buy one soon!
@wavybabylive
@wavybabylive 2 года назад
@@JuicedJoyrides much love bro I’m grinding lol I’ll have one this year for sure 😤
@nolan9578
@nolan9578 Год назад
@@wavybabylive did you get it 👀👀
@jonlock7150
@jonlock7150 Год назад
How you liking it?
@wadafup
@wadafup 2 года назад
O ring chain just seems better tbh, less maintenance is my main thing, I want a belt but they're expensive as hell
@EdibleRebel
@EdibleRebel 11 месяцев назад
I know im a year late but belts are alright, but they can get damaged easier if you're riding offroad stuff. Belts are better for pavement imo
@themofo1111
@themofo1111 Год назад
Manufacturers of X-ring chains claim to have less resistance than o-ring chains and saving power while providing for less maintenance. X-ring chains remain quiet. Non ring chains will provide the least amount of friction resistance.
@shayan4040
@shayan4040 2 года назад
You have clean the chain every now and then.
@billyjenkins3015
@billyjenkins3015 2 года назад
Thanks for the vids, purchased a few mods after seeing your list. Did you notice the chain get louder after breaking it in?
@JuicedJoyrides
@JuicedJoyrides 2 года назад
I think it did, it’s time for a cleaning I think
@ryder7615
@ryder7615 2 месяца назад
i ordered a 120 link chain for my bike as someone told me it is possible to get it to fit on the stock 48t sprocket is this true? in addition will adding a longer chain increase or decrease my top speed?
@dexgray4581
@dexgray4581 2 года назад
Great stuff man! Does this chain work with a stock sprocket? Thank you
@JuicedJoyrides
@JuicedJoyrides 2 года назад
Yes it does, if you expand the description box below the video it will show you how many links you need for the original 48T sprocket that comes in the Sur Ron
@mionggg
@mionggg Год назад
Could the stock chain have dirty grease on it that's why it does that?
@dglongx
@dglongx 2 года назад
That is normal resistance in an o-ring chain. Your new chain may be smoother but will require more maintenance
@JuicedJoyrides
@JuicedJoyrides 2 года назад
I keep telling myself I can handle the extra maintenance, we’ll see what actually happens though :D
@ja-no6fx
@ja-no6fx 2 года назад
Yep. You're only losing around 15% om power with an o ring chain.
@johnanster
@johnanster Год назад
you rock with your willies. say you think this works with mt ariel rider x-class 52v? Keep on rocking.
@JuicedJoyrides
@JuicedJoyrides Год назад
Thanks, that’s a hub drive bike so there is no power loss in the drive train, changing the chain on that bike won’t make a difference
@cordellfrank1798
@cordellfrank1798 Год назад
whats the bag you got on the battery cover?
@dicktomasko1553
@dicktomasko1553 2 года назад
Oring chains last longer and are usually quieter. I don't think I would change mine. I have 2600 miles on mine with little wear...I have a 52 tooth sprocket and top speed is 46....Way fast enough as I'm in the woods all the time. Once your new chain is broke in it will get noisy.
@Motorizedstuff
@Motorizedstuff 2 года назад
46 miles per hour that's bad why do these bikes cost soo much and go so slow
@kevlandon
@kevlandon Год назад
These stock bikes aren't meant for speed, they're offroad bikes, you can upgrade to make them more dirt bikes or more super moto and the capabilities are damn good(crazy suspension & torque, 80mph+, etc.) That being said, my battery,motor & controller are stock, I just put a 58T sprocket and non o ring chain and I'm getting to 51 mph in about 4 seconds 🤷‍♂️
@Musashi_XIV
@Musashi_XIV 2 года назад
The original chain is stuff af probably due to lack of maintenance. Cleaning oiling etc.. regularly
@ashpunting
@ashpunting 2 года назад
yes bro that old chain needs to go in the bin never to be used again 😊👍🏾
@JuicedJoyrides
@JuicedJoyrides 2 года назад
sadly i'm still hoarding it just in case i wanna try a smaller sprocket again
@WashJosh
@WashJosh Год назад
I got my surron used and the chain has so much slack that it sometimes touches the frame. So I’m thinking of just going straight to a sprocket and chain upgrade. The tension is max already so I hope the reason why it has slack is because of wear.
@JuicedJoyrides
@JuicedJoyrides Год назад
I would, sprocket is probably the best bang for the buck performance boost. Keep in mind if you do this non ring chain it is going to be quite a bit louder
@WashJosh
@WashJosh Год назад
@@JuicedJoyrides I would prefer people being able to hear the louder chain when I’m near them
@The_Pat_K
@The_Pat_K 2 года назад
What type of tires do you have installed?
@JuicedJoyrides
@JuicedJoyrides 2 года назад
amzn.to/3HJmkZm
@LarryRichelli
@LarryRichelli 2 года назад
Is this Miami FL? Just wondering about your ebike laws.
@JuicedJoyrides
@JuicedJoyrides 2 года назад
Los Angeles, aka, there are basically no laws
@Cb_271
@Cb_271 Год назад
I've hit 50 on mine with stock battery and controller. So your bac4000 basically does nothing?
@hudsonredmond5601
@hudsonredmond5601 7 дней назад
he's got a larger sprocket which means less top speed so it's actually impressive
@phoenixlounge7656
@phoenixlounge7656 2 года назад
Quick question with Sur rons, when do you start noticing the power and top speed to dip? What percentage roughly?
@JuicedJoyrides
@JuicedJoyrides 2 года назад
Great question, I would say when my battery gets to about 70% I can tell it’s getting less exciting. As for top speed, I don’t really max it out that often so I can’t really comment on that confidently.
@Motorizedstuff
@Motorizedstuff 2 года назад
That's crap my £350 E scooter is better on battery and probably get as many miles too lmao 🤣
@dpgemail
@dpgemail 2 года назад
@@Motorizedstuff scooter 😂
@JaeDee66
@JaeDee66 2 года назад
@@Motorizedstuff scooter lol oooo look out lol
@JaeDee66
@JaeDee66 2 года назад
@@Motorizedstuff can your scooter do 50 mph have two hundred pounds of torque? And about let’s say 50 miles in range?
@peedee4065
@peedee4065 2 года назад
The THEORY is that the o-rings keep the factory grease in and dirt out. It's typical for an o-ring chain to be stiff when it's cold, but after getting it up to temp it loosens. So, what you're seeing and feeling with the bike cold isn't fully indicative of an o-ring chain's "inefficiency." Whereas any new non-o-ring chain will definitely give an instant boost, which you show. The question is what happens in real-world usage where dirt gets into a non-o-ring chain vs an o-ring one. Then the efficiency differences may be measurable the other way (with non-o-ring losing efficiency), but for those of us who just want basic reliability an o-ring chain will probably serve us best. In motorcycle usage what most street bikes will experience is that a non-o-ring chain will wear, and stretch, a lot quicker than an o-ring chain due to the loss of the factory grease and the intrusion of dirt. I've found in my various forays into skateboarding and inline skating and bicycling that there's lots of mumbo jumbo about bearing and chain efficiencies and the types of lubes used and how they're applied, and a lot of the science and real world numbers can show improvements WHEN VERY STRICT MAINTENANCE SCHEDULES ARE ADHERED TO. If you don't want to do intense cleaning and lubing every single session then, yeah, you're gonna go slower. Is the extra work worth the extra speed? You have to figure out for yourself how much effort you wanna put in. So, put a couple hundred miles on that chain and let us know how it works for you. It might be the hot ticket, or maybe it might not.
@JuicedJoyrides
@JuicedJoyrides 2 года назад
Check out my latest video, it shows this chain still performs better then the o-ring chain after a month of no maintenance
@bozoner
@bozoner 2 года назад
if you ride your sur-ron offroad you have to clean the chain after every session anyways, o-ring or not so it might as well be non o-ring
@peedee4065
@peedee4065 Год назад
@@bozoner I've heard a lot of mx'ers use non o-ring chains.
@kevlandon
@kevlandon Год назад
X-ring...
@turbosupra2jzdragracingtob249
Did I hear you tried a bypassed stock battery w stock controller? Was there any benefits?
@JuicedJoyrides
@JuicedJoyrides Год назад
No, I did not bypass the battery until after I put the bac4000 on, but adding the bac4000 and not bypassing the battery these was basically no noticeable power difference
@dwightmaciv4789
@dwightmaciv4789 2 года назад
You really need to put on some riding gear or something 25-53 mph on asphalt probably wouldn't feel good on those bare knee caps hell even 4mph wouldn't feel good 50 mph u might loose a body part and that shit don't grow back
@zeekmx1970
@zeekmx1970 2 года назад
I use Traxxas Marine Grease on my chain. After watching your vid I can see the 20 weight shock oil isn't gonna do it for me.
@JuicedJoyrides
@JuicedJoyrides 2 года назад
Tell me more about this 20 weight shock oil, I don’t know what you’re talking about
@zeekmx1970
@zeekmx1970 2 года назад
@@JuicedJoyrides - I used 20 weight shock oil on my chain when I first got it which evaporated away too quickly. That's not as protective as marine grease. it's also going to attract dirt. That could be the right solution if you're in a salty coastal area with low dust and away from sand. The chain would require complete incasement to keep it free from debris.
@OregonMotorcycle
@OregonMotorcycle 2 года назад
Cool vid. How do you like those tires?
@JuicedJoyrides
@JuicedJoyrides 2 года назад
Thanks, I made some comments on them in my most recent video, “14 upgrades” there is a time stamp. I like them but they are heavier than the stock ones. Hope this helps!
@TheFrankster2405
@TheFrankster2405 11 месяцев назад
Why is ur top speed so slow if you have a bac and a bypassed battery?
@MACRONOne
@MACRONOne 2 года назад
The original chain in a bath of oil overnight would make a difference.
@JuicedJoyrides
@JuicedJoyrides 2 года назад
I may have to try that. What kind of oil?
@waynewigger9904
@waynewigger9904 9 месяцев назад
Look up the purpose of the Oring chains there far better hence why most of the big boy bike use them. I've got 2 stings both standard ones Oring one not and no differents what so ever
@ashpunting
@ashpunting 2 года назад
don't forget to lube your chain bro,😊
@JuicedJoyrides
@JuicedJoyrides 2 года назад
haha it's probably time for some chain maintenance
@MRGOLD99.999
@MRGOLD99.999 Год назад
Is it. A 420 chain size
@JuicedJoyrides
@JuicedJoyrides Год назад
Yes
@Yuuiiytrfbh
@Yuuiiytrfbh 4 месяца назад
I just have to say that it really bothers me that this guy is so paranoid about getting his hands dirty lol. It’s just grease lol.
@amarucassius9474
@amarucassius9474 2 года назад
No chain slack..? Good luck with compression of the back suspension..
@JuicedJoyrides
@JuicedJoyrides 2 года назад
I’m still not sure how much slack to have, I realize that was too tight, but I think I’m figuring it out
@bozoner
@bozoner 2 года назад
no need for chain slack since the front sprocket is on the same axle as the swing arm
@laryangel4082
@laryangel4082 2 года назад
Rr
@laryangel4082
@laryangel4082 Год назад
Uu
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