I wish there was some testing on X Plus. Considering that these machines are basically only for light use, the base price model (999$) seems like it could be a great deal.
I saw one from a guy with a tiny channel if you search. Basically the X1E-80 and X1P-64 have the same single core performance and the multi core is about 5-10% better for the Elite. The thing is, on battery the Elite benched the same as the Plus plugged in. That’s how close they were. They have the same GPU until you get up to the X1E-84 which is only sold in the larger Samsung Galaxy Book Elite right now. So there was a reason MS felt comfortable putting the Plus in the base config. This is almost analogous to Apple binned chips in their base configs. Not much difference for normals doing normal things.
I have the Plus model, and my Geekbench scores were actually better than those Andrew had on his unit whilst on battery power. My score for single core was 2409 and Multi was 13286. Whilst plugged in I got single core 2443 and Multi was 13141, so actually higher speed on battery. Both set to full performance mode. My battery life has not been tested yet, and I have the 512GB SSD and my speeds were Read 3611 and write 2484, so not the best really, my current ThinkPad SSD is almost 8000 read and 7000 write. So will upgrade the SSD in the near future. I think there are very marginal gains with the Elite CPU, the Plus is the way to go. Hope this helps.
Can confirm. The basic model with Snapdragon X Plus is a real deal. Benchmarking by myself X Plus (vs. X Elite): Cinebench 2024: Singlecore 108 (vs. 108), Multicore 829 (vs. 1124) Geekbench 6: Singlecore 2432 (vs. 2452), Multicore 13179 (vs. 14344) The daily work performance with browsing feels incredible with X Plus.
I've had my Surface Laptop 7 running ARM and haven't noticed the fan kick in once, if it has, i haven't heard it. Loving it so far and it's so responsive. Awesome reviews Andrew A+++
I'm in love with the sapphire blue version of this laptop. It is simply gorgeous! Thrilled about the battery life, the Sensel Haptic Touchpad, the premium build and the Surface Connect Port. The AI effects is somewhat gimmicky in my opinion, the webcam and mic audio are clear. I do prefer the 15" version however as I like a bigger screen. While not a dealbreaker by any stretch of the imagination, it's somewhat of a letdown that there is no OLED option. In conclusion, The Surface Laptop 7 (2024) has peaked my interest and I might be ordering one but not before I see it put through its paces by the Great Andrew Marc David! Thank you again my friend!! 👍😁
Finally a genuine upgrade for this laptop, been waiting for this forever. Based on the Surface Laptop 3 I have, it should be incredibly reliable! Time to upgrade!
Great to hear that the battery life has actually lived up to the expectation for this laptop. Now they just need the drivers for all the X86 apps and Linux distros.
@@sujitjoshi1240 I wouldn't say no one. They have their nitch community. Statistically speaking, most people are using Windows and MacOS worldwide. Roughly 4% use Linux.
Something that concerns me its the "low resolution - i know it's not", compared do the surface. You you say its much different to the eye from someone coming from the surface pro 8? Cause i've been think to go back to an laptop, but really like the surface line. Right now, on a surface pro 8 i7, 16gb DDR4
I had that surface book 2 and the CPU died unfortunately recently. Are the Asus, Lenovo, and or Samsung better options? Also is this one better than the book 4 ultra for a gaming , business combination?
Can't wait to get mine on Monday. Very curious how that battery life will hold up in real world usage scenarios (web, Office, etc.). Also curious how previous gen SL5/6 did on the same video rundown test.
I absolutely love your reviews. Keep up the good work! Nonetheless i catched one misinformation here. The brightness actually is 600 nits for both hdr AND sdr content. But i mean.....thats even better xD
which of these new surface devices are supposed to be a more powerful machine? I currently have a SP7 but am really interested in getting one of these new machines. I primarily would use it for data science work, so just curious which of these would be the better choice. Or should I just jump ship and get a macbook pro?
I grabbed the Galaxy book edge since it was running the X elite vs X Plus and had double the storage, but tried a friends S7 13.8 and the keyboard/trackpad are so much better than the Samsung. I use it almost entirely for writing and web/research, so I am considering returning it for the S7. For my use case would I notice the difference in performance?
I received mine the other day top tier config with 64gb 1TB. After using it for the past two days, Im a Lightroom user and for me unfortunately Adobe still has some work to do on there ARM version so I will be returning the unit and will look at it again in a few months
@@inigab I shoot with 2 Nikon Z9's in RAW He* and Adobe does not support this format on there ARM software also at this point another feature I use a lot is the A! Denoise which barely runs on the ARM version of LR and PS. I hope Adobe in the future continues to improve the ARM version of LR and PS,..
Ah I was waiting for this one. Looks good, honestly. Battery life exceeded my expectations. Thanks, Andrew! P.S. looks like you're getting bombarded with p*rn bot comments
@@andrewmarcdavid I try and report as many as I can. Not sure if it helps though 😅 Oh and about the Surface, can you please try and play some games on it? I know it's not a gaming laptop in any way, but I want to see if it's better than a Macbook Air in this regard. ✌️
Thank you for the review! I've had this for 2 days now. Has anyone noticed any ghosting? I confirmed with models at Best Buy. The pixel response time must not be super great as I can see trails with I move my cursor and when scrolling. Otherwise this thing is amazing. Given that though, I am probably going to take my spec'd out version I bought and get the plus with 16/512GB. I have been reading there is only like 5-10% difference in performance between the plus and elite.
As always, thanks for what you do, Andrew!... I'm curious if you think that one could expect more or less the same from the 15" model regarding the battery, performance and temp. Thanks!
For the first time, I can actually make out the additional $200-300 you're paying for the Surface Laptop compared to the other Copilot+PC that have been released. The battery life and haptic trackpad alone make it worthwhile tbh
@@Subhrajyoti Surface chargers used to have USB-A ports on them, so you could carry one charger to charge your Surface and your phone, for example. I was asking if this latest charger still offered that.
I would wait a little bit as they iron out the kinks. That being said, if all you do is simple tasks such as MS office, web browsing, watching youtube and movies it will work really great right now.
Nice battery result, but difficult to give it much weight without comparisons against other machines. Everywhere else a 4k video loop is getting much less, somewhere in the 5-6hrs max? browser loop topping out around 10-11hrs. Still impressive compared to other win laptops but still miles behind macs unfortunately. 20hrs is the kind of jump qualcomm and MS were promising would be attainable, so if that's already happening now after some updates, while the rest of the win class is stuck at 6hrs that would be an insane result.
Excellent preliminary review! The battery life is great but those compatibility issues...they are just not acceptable at this time and with those prices when better options without ARM compatibility pitfalls can be had.
Nice looking laptop. These blue units look quite impressive. Keyboard for this size units designed nice. Camera looked very good. People who want long battery running life will appreciate these units. Great first look review.
Please cover where are we at with Linux distros, maybe test it with Ubuntu, if it supports it. Us devs are looking forward for a non spyware OS ARM PC.
Not yet. Gotta wait for kernel 6.11, which should be out in a few months. The next wave of Linux distributions should work out of the box if we are lucky.
in future very important h266 for gpus, will see if nvidia add in blackwell support h266 decode/encoder. intel add in lunarlake decode. its important for 8k 24p movies, video cameras 8k 60p/120p or 12k 60p,video editing 8k60p,120p/12k30p,60p,television 4k,8k. ,8k gameing, streaming and .... .H265 intel add decoder/encode 4k 60p from skylake ,8k 60p h265 from tigerlake. will see what from patherlake
I'm impressed with this pc especially the battery, and processor. However, I'm skeptical if this would work for Deep Learning training especially since it doesn't have CUDA which only comes with an Nvidia GPU
I drain alot more battery than i should on my SL7, and i am not the only one, I got told by several people that they experience the same. Also, when surfing the web i drain like 1% every 5 minutes, that shouldn't be normal either. Do you know anything i can do? I could exchange it for a new laptop but if i am not the only one, i am afraid i will get one with the same problem.
not use windows, everyone is getting less than the advertised battery time. Windows is still having compatability issues with the ARM processors, they are scoring less than projected on benchmarks
Thank you for your efforts. I believe this surface is the best arm pc right now. However, I think Surface Laptop 9 will be a dream laptop. Till that timez they will probably add OLED
Did they solve the coil whine issue? The older surface laptops were making annoying „buzzing noise“ in idle which you could clearly hear in silent environments. (When I remember correctly only when plugged in)
Excellent specs for that price! Microsoft and Qualcomm are now real competitors to Apple. It will be nice to record an interview with the Sensel team; their work should not be overlooked.
I guess Windows OS is the culprit that slows down performance when unplugged. 19% off off in performance for single core. Machine should not lower power when unplugged to give the impression the battery life is better when it really gimping the machines. The video test though... - 40% brightness video playback for 20 hours is crazy. at 600 nits , 240 nits (40%) is respectable!
I don't want a 13 inch laptop period, and I hate it that Microsot limits the most popular color to 13 inch and it is not included with the 15 inch, with a boring black color and a sort of off white. Neither of which i find very attractive. And what about the speakers that no one seems to want to address in all their prasie
Love from india.. I will highly appreciate if u help me..want to buy a windows laptop out of lenovo yoga slim7x, surface laptop 7 15 inch or galaxy book 4 edge 16 inch.. which is best for long term use like 5-7 years.. casual office user (no gaming or creative work) . Need premium laptop alternative to mac. Ram 16 or 32gb(preferred for future proof) long battery & good display with good build quality . Android user. Good performance on battery with long battery life. Samsung user
There's not a lot of difference between these as their all in the same classification. Short answer, Laptop 7 is on par the others but 7X allows higher RAM configurations, 4 Edge is lower build quality.
As long as you can't even run Microsoft's own programs like SQL Express Server, it makes no sense to use arm64 processors! These notebooks are nothing for gaming, without MS SQL Server they are also useless as work PCs. Sorry Microsoft, that's not how it works!
@@RR-zq3mk wow... This is kinda "you holding it wrong" vibe. When I look at the display I want to see the content. Not my reflection, not reflection of the light bulb, or window... And I don't want to "adapt". And I will give my money to a company that understands what is important to me!
