for students, its also a really good device. You can take your notes very quick with the pen and run all windows programs for university. Far better than buying a macbook AND an ipad
@@sayedm2392 Notion is very good. try it out :) you can have up to unlimited months of free subscription if you introduce it to friends (1 friend = 1 month free)
What a coincidence the guy directly below your comment says he's an engineer and using this. Also a coincidence your comment was posted around a week ago and got no replies until 3 hours ago and here I am replying as well. Yet for a full week you got none haha
@@sadbravesfan I have more important things to be doing rather than wondering how a comment on a RU-vid video is getting on reply wise. Not to mention comparing random people's reply stats
I own the Surface Pro 6, i7, 16GB RAM, 512GB storage. I bought the keyboard and stylus, then a case and screen protector for, well, protection. I love it and am just worried about how it’ll hold up for the inevitable drop. But as a laptop replacement, I’ve had ZERO regrets and would highly recommend this device if you can get past the price tag.
In 2000, I was walking around with my 20lb laptop, that had a 2 hour battery and a 5lb power supply, like it was nothing. In 2018, you need a more portable laptop than your laptop for leaving the house.
It doesn't have USB type-C & Thunderbolt. Granted. But then again, I don't own any peripherals that need that. So while the IO is dated, is it really that big of an issue?
I have just bought a surface pro 6 for drawing and i use my "real" laptop for 3d cad. My "real" laptop has usb-c and thunderbolt, i have never used one of these.
Timber van den Hul amen. Preach. USB C is ARGUABLE, and that’s literally only because of external drives that use usb c to usb a connections, or phones that oddly come with usb c to usb c. It’s hilarious that people complain about it when it’s such a niche thing incorporating it would make more people upset about the increase in cost, than make people happy it’s included.
For tech savvy people, yes it is a big issue. For what Microsoft is aiming for, which is the business market, no, it's not. Most business corporations do not update their hardware as frequent as the common consumer, and for businesses, if it ain't broke and you can't fix it, then don't replace it. Funny enough, I find that USB Type-A slot a lot more useful then any USB Type-C slot for most occasions due to how outdated the company hardware are.
I've been using Surface Pro 6 I5 128mb version for 6 month already, and I love it. It completely replaced my aging dell laptop. I am not gaming and I don't have any USB-C devices. So for my needs surface serves perfectly, including occasional jpeg editing in Photoshop. All my job related stuff, documents, VPN access etc all in one place in small factor. love it! :)
The stylus is not Wacom EMR. It uses N-Trig so it uses a battery. However, the battery lasts for months. WRT your display issues regarding touch and the screen blemish, it seems you got a bad device. I rarely got stutters in Windows, so I really do think you got a lemon. (Not excusing Microsoft; they need much better QC for what these things cost.) You should try to get a replacement. You should be getting a much better experience.
Jimmy Cerra I have owned a Surface Pro 2, a Surface Pro 4, a Surface Book, currently own a Surface Book 2 15" and have just bought a Surface Book 6. All of these have been immaculate out of the box, and I have never had a BSOD event on any of them. It is inevitable that some such lemons will get through. The majority who get on well with their machines probably never bother to post about it.
Finally found an in depth professional review of Surface Pro 6! Thank you! I will wait for Surface Pro 7 and more money in the bank after spending on iPad Pro 10.5!
lol you say that so casually it sounds like you have loads of money just waiting to spend. "Don't really know what it is but sounds interesting so I'll get one."
Best reveiw on surafce.everyone else was biased.either praising it by trashing ipad or vice versa. this is one genuine one.unbiased,realiable and honest.thank you so much
Bat Man it’s a really good device especially as a college student, but I feel that’s it’s totally overpriced. If you have extra cash buy it otherwise don’t. I love it, but low key regret buying it due to its price
I bought the surface pro 6 on release and use it for university as well as at home. I really want to love this device but the system software and amount of bugs it has is starting to make me want an alternative. The device is perfect except for its software, such a shame when it's in its 6th gen Don't even get me started on the Microsoft store...
The iPad Pros have a 4:3 ratio, not a 3:2 like the Surface Pro. The iPad Pro 11” has a slightly wider ratio than 4:3, but it is still far from a 3:2 ratio.
Correct, the the previous Ipads were 3:2 which = 16x12.03The new I pad at 2388x1668 = a slightly wider 16x11.18 but then again at 7:26 he calls the surface pro 6 a 13in. I like the guy but he obviously needs to do his homework as he is unintentionally giving bad information to the less informed
Nice to see a high quality, unbiased review that is well-organised point by point. Also, I need that music, I restarted the video just to listen to it again hahaha.
Will be getting the Surface Pro 7 when it releases later in 2019. It will have USB C Charging which is more simpler, cheaper to replace, and faster at charging. The Pro 6 is ultra portable and perfect for students and for people to take around without the bulk of a 15' laptop. And the alcantara keyboard is cute and back lit. Even though it's sold separately, it offers choice on what colour keyboard you can choose from.
Considering upgrading my 4 yr old HP white laptop to this. PROS: Ultra portable, SD storage, perfect for school home and bus/train commute. CONS: (1) No dedicated GPU (2) Overpriced esp. keyboard/pen (3) Slow 1.something Ghz CPU, at least it's quad core (4) Keyboard and pen sold seperate (5) No USB C/USB 3.1, limited ports (6) Display is not anti-glare so will reflect like a mirror in sunlight. Even HP displays are anti-glare. The 128GB is going for NZ$1500 so waiting for sales later this year to get that or preferably the 256GB. Otherwise I could get an HP 15' Pavilion which has an i7 8550u and 512GB SSD with 2x USB 3.1 ports. One major pro with the pro 6 is it's not a behemoth like the average laptop.
Its hard to trust you when you say the touch recognition is bad when you obviously tapped that video. If you are being genuine, then you need to work kn your motor skills, because that was a tap, sir.
After having and using my Surface Pro 6 for over a week now, I can honestly say that I haven't had any more issues with it "accidently" clicking when I didn't want it to. I love using it and have had no problems with it.
I've used Surface Pro since the beginning, and have never had touch recognition issues. Always was absolutely perfect. Can't say I love using the pen, though.
I honestly don't get why people think they need touchpads that are the size of the screen or something... this is a touch screen, so if you combine the touch pad and the touch screen you can touch your heart out with this. The touchpad is plenty large enough. I'm also pretty sure that the pen won't work without batteries in it. It also has tons of pressure sensitivity and stuff. Yeah, the Apple pencil is better, but the new pen for the Surface is pretty solid.
After 3 weeks of use I traded my Surface Pro 6 for the new iPad Pro. It is an excellent device and I do miss it sometimes, but I am too deep into the apple ecosystem to use a Microsoft product. Great review! Nothing but truth
Thank you! Your version (with the specs in the vid) - how fast does it work with photoshop? Or does it lag (cos of i5 etc)? Do you think it's worth it buying the i7 16gb, or not really?
In all simplicity, Will this allow me to read comfortably, design presentations,watch videos, answer emails, take notes, and let me do my college research peacefully? That's all i need it for ...
I wanted to know if it was good for college students as well. I think he did mention it’s good for watching RU-vid videos without lag in high performance mode. I assume it’s good for answering emails because even phones can do so pretty easily. He didn’t go into too much detail about Microsoft word and such that would have been beneficial for me as well!
Hi, a bit of constructive criticism. Maybe you should choose a more simpler and catchier name for your channel and also, some of your videos need better thumbnails. I just realised you have a video on the ipad pro vs SP6 but I kinda scrolled past it because it didn't seem like a professional made video but more of a tech info with pictures taken off of google. I don't mean to insult because I really enjoyed this video. All the best!
You can use the Microsoft Surface Dock via the magnetic charging port, it has 4 USB 3.0 2 mini Display port, Ethernet and Audio. I believe it can run one 4k monitor at 60hz or two 1440 at 60hz, or 2 4k at 30hz, and 2 at lower resolution combinations.
Hi there. Thanks for this review! Would you happen to know if Microsoft has already fixed the screen flickering issue on the Surface tablets? I currently have the SP4, and I like using it especially for illustratins, but after just a couple of hours use, the screen begins to flicker to the point where I can't work anymore. Would love to know if the newer models don't have this issue anymore, as these machines are pretty expensive. I hope you could make another update review, maybe mentioning this issue. Thanks, ZoneofTech!
I called Microsoft about the Black paint and they said the paint problem on the black units have been resolved. The early models had The paint problem but the Newer ones don't . Purchased it in black and so far No chipping no peeling.
People, I am not a fan of ads as well. However, to continue to bring content, I have no choice but to take on sponsors as the cost of producing videos is very high. Without other revenue sources I cannot afford to keep bringing reviews of these very expensive devices. Most big companies will not send me the devices for review. That is the reality. There are other bigger channels that are paid by the manufacturers and will not give you an honest review. They are paid. Bottom line, I love making videos for you to consume, but reality is that I need to take on sponsors to continue to do so. Having said that, I will not promote a product that I would not use myself. I have a lot of new content on the way that I think you will really like. Stay tuned... Moins
I think the MS Surface Pro 6 is the best device for students wich study science. Cause you can write on the surface an take your notes and although you have enough power to use some software like mathematica, matlab, or anything wich needs a bit more performance.
The SP6 is the perfect device for students. Absolutely unbeatable. Keep it on power saver and the battery will last a very long time. At home plug it in and jack up to high performance mode, and it runs plenty fast. Sure you can't do most 3D FPS style games on it (well maybe in low detail), but it can play any other game ever made. Add to that the stylus and touch screen on full style apps and it does anything I need!
its a laptop that doesn't come with a keyboard or mouse. and dont @ me saying that its a tablet. windows 10 touch interface is pure dog trash lmao. so anyone who's buys this will literally 100% of the time get a keyboard and mouse
While I think the Surface Pro is the more complete device (in deed combining a laptop & a tablet) the drawing experience doesn't really hold up to the iPad Pro. So it's not necessarily what graphic designers, illustrators, concept artists might prefer. Despite the software. In my experience it's geared more towards engineers, architects and the like who can really get something out of a portable touch device that just happens to run their rather specialized programs - and who don't need the most fluid drawing experience but rather the precision of a stylus.
Christoph Riess . Nice comment. But I think the surface pro can greatly benefit graphic designers, illustrators and concept artists. I have to admit the iPad has better drawing precision but the surface pro has better usability because it can run full softwares. For example, I’m a graphic designer and my work process involves using illustrator, photoshop and sometimes indesign interchangeably. Having the ability to take a logo I made on illustrator and copy/paste it in photoshop is a big must for me and the surface pro makes it even more appealing to do work while sitting at a park. Yes the ports looks outdated but Microsoft has provided an all-in-one adapter for that. I do think getting the base model seems unwise so my hope is that I can get the max out model to compensate some of its flaws. In a marketplace over saturated with devices we have to pick a product that will give us the most bang for our buck.
@@0nepotential I'm in no way trashing the surface (except maybe for the missing usb-c/tunderbolt 3 port which baffles me). The decision on what fits is really up to the user and his or her specific tasks - but you're right, I probably drew the categories a bit too harshly. I know some logo designers that had prior experience with Affinity Designer who made an easy switch (or, more precisely, just added an iPad Pro to their workflow). But on the other hand it's definitely NOT worth (per se) to get an iPad for the drawing experience when it means to drastically alter a working, streamlined workflow (specifically anything adobe related. Might change with Photoshop for iPad but we'll see). Why change, when the Surface can be a totally suitable addition without the hassle of rearranging workflow patterns etc. Or to venture out into the world of graphic design, concept art & illustration with JUST an iPad (which is doable, but only if you know what you're doing). Glad you pointed that out. There's a whole lot of greyspace in between black and white categories and my first comment to some degree fell into the latter. Ofc. most professionals know rather well what exactly they want and from which device they'll get it - but for those who are still wondering and who maybe have to figure out what exactly they want/need out of a device extra information is needed.
@@0nepotential For me, the reason I went for the SP6 over the iPad Pro is pointer support. I can't imagine giving a presentation to a bunch of people, all the time poking and prodding at the tablet.
As a long-time SP3 user who's looking to upgrade, I'm going to hold off on the SP6 until MS offers a modern implementation. USB-C is no longer "coming", it's here and now. I don't want to invest in something without a certain level of future-proofing. Hopefully my SP3 stays strong until SP7 comes out.
Explain to me why it needs the port? Your devices come with usb-c to usb cables, so you're asking that they make you have to go out and buy new cables for no reason... As long as the USB port is 3.0+ it's fine.
@@justing7490 Type C is 2x faster than the 3.0 used in the SP6. Type C also enables full charging or the use of a mobile charger in a pinch. You can also connect monitors using Type C. Keep one Type A port for current/legacy use but Type C vastly expands the usability and applicability of the Surface Pro.
@ Zone of Tech, Please be the first Major youtube tech channel to review the Microsoft USBC adapter. And no it is not thunderbolt. I have not seen one youtube reviewer of the Microsoft Surface Pro 6, review or even talk about the Surface USBc adapter, not one as of today? Why? It ihas full USBC functionality including displays and charging on later Surface Pro. Add USB-C adapter to Surface Laptop or newest Surface Pro to attach to USB-C docking solutions for expanded connectivity to external displays, power, and more.¹ USB-C adapter connects Surface Laptop or newest Surface Pro to compatible universal docking stations and power supplies. Simultaneously connect, charge, and display on large monitors with universal USB-C docks.¹ Charging power requirements: 27W or greater, 12V minimum. Supports data speeds up to USB 3.1 Gen 1.¹ Supports connected displays up to 1 x 4K at 60Hz or 2 x 4K at 30Hz¹ Add USB-C to Surface Laptop and newest Surface Pro Add USB-C adapter to Surface Laptop or newest Surface Pro to attach to USB-C docking solutions for expanded connectivity to external displays, power, and more.1 USB-C adapter connects Surface Laptop or newest Surface Pro to compatible universal docking stations and power supplies. Simultaneously connect, charge, and display on large monitors with universal USB-C docks.1 Charging power requirements: 27W or greater, 12V minimum. Supports data speeds up to USB 3.1 Gen 1.1 Supports connected displays up to 1 x 4K at 60Hz or 2 x 4K at 30Hz1
Those are not death pixels... it is actually dust inside the led diffuser layers. Awesome review, my hp omen pro is painted black and it is a dope color... also the best paint job on any laptop I've ever seen... two years and no scratches or even peeling paint, just as pristine as first day
I may have missed it but which one is this one (in terms of ram & storage) That you're happy with? I apologise if you mentioned it and I missed it! Thank you in advance!! Awesome review! Appreciate the time you spent to inform us all!!🤜🤛 What storage level/ram would you recommend for amateur video/editing of photos & videos?? Thanks!
Don't buy I make that mistake, it's very slow when it comes to adobe software, I can only use it for do my research and Microsoft office (word, power point) and the video quality it's great but I still disappointed
USBC was made for one thing. Profits. to get you to buy adapters, dongles and what not, all while not being inherently better than usb 3 except for smaller either way connector. Now thunderbolt is a big plus if you will be buying a tb chassis for an egpu and a pro graphic card, it is also good for low latency audio, being slightly better than usb 3.
Hey buddy, nice Video! Thanks! Just have a question about the Performance. Is it true that the surface pro 2017/6 is getting a Lot of bluescreens and crashes? I mean did you have the same experience? Thanks Mate
Rony J I’ve heard that it is actually really good, a friend of mine has the surface laptop and I’ve watched her use that and she has no problems, so I’d assume it’s very similar
One day, when integrated graphics are more powerful(maybe not so far in the future, as intel and amd teamed up to make intel cpus with amd graphics), the surface line will be the non plus ultra of tablet-pcs.
Almost pulled the trigger on one these, then remembered I needed a SIM slot. To my surprise there isn't one on the 6. Absolutely ridiculous oversight with the design. Saved my money then I suppose :-(
This video is awesome now i like that tablet that looks like a laptop and I like tech,sometimes I go to this channel because your videos about tech are awesome.
A nice tablet that lacks severely in the video department. The browser Chrome for example is sluggish, slow and jerky. My old iPad Pro (2016) outperforms the SP6 considerably. Had the Surface for a full day and returned
Love my SP6 but Microsoft support and quality is not great I think. In my case my unit had a battery issue, MS support promise me that they replace it for a new one because I report this just after purchase. They return a refurbished one with loose kickstand and artefacts on screen. Found many comments like this seems like a general issue that Microsoft usually replace units for refurbished ones.
The one I’m bothered by and reconsidering my decision to purchase it is the slightly poor touch recognition. To me, it gets irritating and I wouldn’t invest in a consistent bothersome experience. Could more of you offer your opinions please?
I decided to find something that replaced my basic laptop and my iPad Pro 9.7. I am retired and not a heavy user, Other than my lack of knowledge of Win10 and being a iPad user, I am finding I can easily retire my other toys. I do need to find a perfect source to get educated on the abilities of my Surface. Thanks for the review. I guess I will keep seeking videos for my learning. I wonder if MS has a training resource.
Microsoft should really start including the keyboard cover with the Surface Pro. The keyboard and trackpad is a necessity in order to use the Surface as intended. Without it’s “accessories”, the Surface Pro is much harder to use compared to the iPad Pro without its accessories.
Update 1809 Prewiew build 18290 which came out in October has fixed the software issues talked about in the video. Whilist adding fun new features. The update full release is the Spring 2019 Creators Update.
yoga 920 is 13,9 inch (surface pro is 12,3 inch) and runs 8-12 hours straight for me. 8 hours if I run lots of software and heavy software testing/compiling all day long. 12 hours for most of the usual days. That means a full working day without even bringing the charger to work, ever. So 15 inch isn't required for longer battery life. A larger battery is required for battery life, and surface does have room today for a bigger battery, they just didn't go for that. Also, I got usb-c in my phone. Why would a 15 inch device be required for that? They can it it in 12,3 inch, if they wanted to. But it would be wonderful if they made a 15 inch, just for the larger screen. I would buy it :)
hey there.. great review on the surface pro 6. with regards to the scratches, get the incipio clear or the BX2 Edge for surface pro cover, it’s what I used on mine and works great. You might have to buy a couple of magnets from ebay ( 0.5mm height, 2mm width and 10mm length) and stick on the side for the 2018 surface pen, but the cover is otherwise perfect.
Old Comment time - thanks for the review - considering upgrading from my SP5 to this for the quad core and more storage. I love my SP5! I think the techies (I include myself) are over-valuing USB-C. It's "the future" but it's such a large paradigm shift and after a couple years now - we are still in a transition mess. TB3 and eGPU docks are still so niche as to be irrelevant. The majority love the magnetic connector, and I think the surface dock is superior to TB3 docks in both cost and ease of use. Why is it we spend so much time lamenting this? In fact, I would prefer and extra old school USB-A port to be honest, and display-port remains pretty stable and relevant.
