I'm impressed that the snowboard instructor either knew enough about or had looked up enough about surfing to be able to explain the difference in weight distribution to the surfers
It is in california, good chance they've had experience with surfing. With snowboarding you only really care about weight on front leg at very beginning, once you get mild speed down even a green its more neutral weight, and when you get to powder you're putting all weight to the back
Many Snowboard instructors have there aasi certification. During that proccess I learned weight distribution that connect with snowboarding like surfing, wake boarding, skiing, skateboarding, etc
@@Charlie-hv3dh powder happens after a fresh snowfall and before it gets condensed and settles to the mountain. basically you end up skiing/boarding THROUGH it. it's really soft and thick and can be tricky to master but super soft if you call. on mountains there are different levels of slopes. traditionally the order goes "green" "blue "black diamond" "double black diamond" "extreme terrain" in order of difficulty. the mountains i frequent are a little different though, going "green" "blue" "blue/black" "black diamond" "extreme terrain". a green slope is a fairly flat and wide run. lots of space to turn and stop! hope that helps
Day 2 is when they've all built a little confidence and speed and then catch a massive heelside edge that makes them reconsider their headgear choices.
i just tried skiing for the first time recently with a couple friends and i was shocked that none of them were wearing helmets but me. i’d rather look “dumb” then risk getting hurt
I’ve hit the ground so hard snowboarding I shattered a helmet ON my head, completely broke a nice Wilson helmet. Got out with a concussion, passed out once I got to the bottom of the mountain. Wearing a helmet probably saved my skull that day.
UUUUUH how do you break a helmet. didnt even know thats possible luckly you wernt on like a black or double black were if you pass out your falling of a cliff.
@@gr1ff1x37 probably at the terrain park, was doing a flip then landed on his head or hit his head on the rail, then he could barely get down and then passed out at the bottom
@@hockey215r I agree, i've been skateboarding since childhood. I went snowboarding for the first time a month ago, my skateboard experience didn't help me at all. I hurt myself alot.
Anhure I agree as well. The only thing that my skateboarding experience helped with was my sense of balance. Other than that I couldn’t really translate my skateboarding experience into learning how to snowboard.
Anhure i skate boarded as well before snowboarding and it didn’t help me learn but once i did and started doing tricks it helped a lot because a lot of the tricks are similar
Victoria Lia most ice skaters probably already know how to ski and vice versa, maybe not well, but they wouldnt be like most of these ppl who have zero experience
Victoria Lia I played hockey my whole life and my first time skiing was really easy for me, the only things that I had a tough time with were the moguls
TREV yes definitely, I tried going in the park last time and just killed myself on everything but the jumps, yet double black diamonds I have no problem with
I had one issue with this, though. Telling your students to ride the board flat? You're always on either your toe side or the heelside. Unless it's powder. But that's a completely different thing in terms of weight distribution in general. With "keeping it flat" you're bound to have your edges get caught, and fall. Fairly skilled riders may be able to compensate some of it, professional riders actually use it as leverage. Beginners end up in some sort of train tracks. No matter what you do, one of the edges will catch.
@@cybernedlytedlythewise7499 yeah. It's not something I'd actually get mad about, but it's potentially a lesson learned by pain. Been there. Toeside got caught, I flipped over and my chest hit the board. If you ever got hit in the solar plexus, you'll know what that was like. Not a fun experience. What I did there was a mistake, or rather an accident. I didn't intentionally invite the edge to catch
as a snowboard instructor ive noticed that any board sport helps (skateboarding, wakeboarding, surfing), while many times people who knew how to ski were not that good first time around.
@@AuroraBoarder1 I said many times which doesn't mean everyone. ive taught lots of people of different ages and the majority of those doing board sports were better than the majority of those who were skiers. and then again the majority of those doing ANY kind of sport were better than those doing none at all (one of my best students ever was a track and field athlete with no skiing experience at all and has never done any board sports either, so there's always exceptions). when it comes to switch - first you need to learn how to do fs and bs turns, cuz some people just tend to do the bs turn with a different foot in the front every time. if you mean they'll be better doing a switch 1080 with a previous skiing experience, that's way beyond the beginner classes and that's a different story, I'm talking about beginner classes here - like how the guys in the video were ;)
What I meant is that a skier is not hardwired to ride a certain way. The way I discovered I ride regular instead of goofy is, on my first snowboard lesson, my board was set up goofy. My right foot kept charleyhorsing. So the instructor switched the bindings around, and I was fine then. I can ride switch easily, as long as my board is set up regular.
i’ve been skiing since i was very little and i’ve tried snowboarding recently and i am absolutely terrible, it’s taken me at least 3 days to actually be able to be somewhat comfortable, but i still cannot even get off the chairlift, or go without falling ever 30 seconds
the instructors might have helmets because they would ride the whole mountain, helmet not really necessary on the beginner slopes, more for collisions with trees on advanced runs or jumps in the park
@@coreysuffield Not necessarily true. My brother's boyfriend was wearing a helmet while learning how to snowboard and still managed to get a intracranial hematoma. Definitely was not a fun experience for him and there was complications that caused temporary paralysis that required physical therapy. Always wear a helmet, but more importantly should you fall you gotta learn how to fall properly. He fell straight back and smacked his head, which is not something you see very often.
@@lilazntown that is unfortunate, but it does sound like an edge case, that is probably the reason they have them start off learning heel edge maneuvers where catching the heel edge on the down slope(fall backwards downhill) is highly unlikely and at low speeds it is no more dangerous than running without a helmet, it would be like seeing runners on with helmet. but I would agree that young kids should probably wear a helmet
Everyone should be wearing a helmet it doesn't matter what kinda slope your on you can still hit your head on hardpack/ice, I personally suffered a bad concussion on a easy hill just because I hit hard pack and I was wearing a helmet
It's not a knock, I love snowboarding, but it's just about the quickest of all extreme sports to learn. Figure out how to stop on your first morning, eat it a few times, and start ripping down the mountain in the afternoon. I have taught many uncoordinated nerds (friends) in a weekend. Surfing is probably among the hardest of all sports to figure out. Everyone still sucks after 6 months.
Nalebi100 yeah that’s very true I taught myself s turns on my first day of snowboarding without an instructor, but I still can barely get up on a surfboard after 2 years of surfing
Been snowboarding for 10 years. Tried surfing last year. Got the basics standing up and doing small turns in 2 days. But i’m still eating it while swimming out to the waves. Mad respect for that 😂
I learned surfing in a week at a beach house in mission beach and my cousins couldn’t believe it, neither did I but my whole family is all super comfortable in water sports like wakeboarding and wake surfing, all my friends have learned how to wakesurf usually within two days, SNOWBOARDING TOOK ME 6 DAY TRIPS, and it was the most frustrating things I’ve had to learn ever, and snowboarding is way tougher on your body, soar tailbones for days.
heres why, in snowboarding, the slope is always the same, and there is no variables, you can go as many times as you want. In surfing, 80% of the time is waiting for a set, you may only get a few waves each time you paddle out. Less reps means it will take longer to get better.
Every surfer I've been with when they started snowboard picks it up and starts linking turns within the first 10 minutes if not immediately, it seems once they figure out the opposite weight distribution it clicks. The only thing they struggle with for the first few hours is coming to a stop on an edge (aka slowing down).
Exactly see my rather long comment above. 3 years to learn how to be just a okay surfer & 3 hours on a snowboard & I was ripping down double black. Not even close. Bought an eskate & have the best of both anytime I want. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-yBN_MZ6xfBQ.html
@@ipken9464 not sure, probably not. When I responded to the video I was only stating that it took me 3 hrs to learn how to snowboard but I've been surfing & skateboarding consistently for 15 years before I went on my first snowboarding trip.
I have been snowboarding for about 14 years and you can clearly see that their surfing experience helped them a lot here. They figured out the weight distribution very quickly and made progress way faster than most beginners. Props to the instructors too.
I’ve tried snowboarding once in my life and it was hands down the worst experience I’ve had. The instructors were rude, I nearly broke my tailbone and I probably cried like 7 times on that trip. It was a school trip we did and it seemed like everyone else was having fun but me. But after seeing this video I kinda want to try it again.
You should definitely try it again! After my first try at snowboarding, I swore I would never do it again. I tried again reluctantly with my daughter about ten years later and fell in love with it. I've been riding for about 15 years and have been an instructor for three years.
@@eljones930 hehe, quite the same here... they gave me hard boots as a kid (in 1998 or so) and i was too anxious or whatever so I couldnt make turns even after 2-3 days, crying (a bit) and all that... still dreaming about snowboarding and loved it in my dreams though. I tried it again with my son a few weeks ago and fell in love with it :)
You're better just learning yourself. Instructors usually aren't very good riders anyway. Decent riders don't waste the day teaching others, they're out there finding powder.
The first and only time I went snowboarding I didn't wear a helmet. No one did. I almost broke my wrist running into a brick wall getting off of the ski lift 😂😂
Same. Been snowboarding for 12 years, just went surfing the other day. I wiped out so many times that some dude came over wanting to fight for getting in his way, lmao.
It took me a about a days time to finally get it. That was in feburary out on the french shore of nova scotia. Falling sucked as it was stupid cold and I spent majority of the time in my buddies cottage getting warm. I did get it eventually comfortably down as I was tired of falling in the cold water lol. I snowboard alot and swim alot, I find it helped. I'll go river surfing friend whenever he has no one to go with. It's not easy, but it's not nearly as hard as people think. Only hard part is getting up, but if you have good board control snowboarding, it's easy to pick up after that.
Thanks for be so honest & telling the truth. I'm getting tired of it here of responding to these clueless people about this video. See my squabble with others here on the subject.
"it's water but it's frozen, so it's really different" killed me xD Edit: "I don't care if I fall as long as I don't hurt myself" "looking with your eyes is really important" What's going ooooon xD
@@HimanXK I think these 2 things are actually the same (apthough different people said them), standing up is all about the weight distribution, which is totally different to how you stand up and distribute the weight in surfing.
I kinda did it when I was a kid, I used to ice skate (not a high level) and when I went skiing for the first time they asked me to change group because I was too good for beginners
They are going 2 miles an hour when they fall on an open slope guided by instructors. I think they will be fine. If they start going by themselves then yeah strap a helmet on them.
Clayton Fair if you think like that anything can be dangerous and we would all be in a bubble. let’s be honest nhl players play without visors with hundred mph pucks in the air. That’s a risk. This is not. This is no more dangerous than driving a car on any road
@@patjohn775 It dosent matter how fast u are going u should always wear a helmet. I would argue that unless u are doing jumps/tricks then slow speed is more dangerous then high speed as if u fall and hit your head in low speed then the angle u hit your head is very mutch straight down. As if u were to hit your head in medium speed then u are moving forward and down so the angle is not as sharp. Ofc with speed other dangers come in to play. It is also mutch easier to control your board in medium/high speed then it is in low speed so once ppl get used to balancing the board and then picking up some speed the easier it will become.
People who argue against wearing a helmet are the same people who smoke cigarettes and say “My dad has smoked for 20 years, never had lung cancer so neither will I”. It only takes one accident.
I started snowboarding when I was 5 and I swear, gliding down after the lift was terrifying. I hated it until I reached 8 and got a little more comfortable. Really harder than it looks, especially if you get afraid, obviously then you would lose control lol
Really? Idk why but when I glide I usually just put my free foot into the second strap but dont close it, I feel like it gives me more control over the board with the possibility of just getting my foot out of it in case i need.
Not gonna lie as a snowboarder going wakeboarding felt really similar since you go at a decent enough speed the water tension is high enough to use Snowboard techniques. Surfing probably feels like going through a deep batch of powder gotta keep the weight more on the backside or you're gonna get stuck.
As a surf beginner watching very experienced surfers learn a new skill and sport reminds me of how these guys started to learn how to surf and practice made then be where they are today
I feel like if they took big wave surfers they would do better, as the bigger waves are far steeper. When they showed clips of the girl surfing she was on like a 2-3 foot wave. Nothing steep or hard, that wave isnt even a green in terms of slope steepness
When i was a snowboarding instructor i always found the surfers picked up snowboarding quickly in comparison to someone who has never done a board sport! I love this
This was me about a month ago, haha. I've done a lot of surfing in my life but I had never snowboarded before. I very quickly learned that falling in snow hurts a lot more than falling in water. Also, I was alarmed at how fast you could go. Usually, when you're surfing, you slow down because its the water that's carrying you and the water loses momentum. That's not the same deal on snow. Snow doesn't have any resistance, so once you get going, you get going. Needless to say, I had some pretty gnarly wipe-outs. Also, getting back up on a snowboard is so much harder than a surfboard.
For me the hardest thing about snowboarding is the fear factor Cause falling freaking HURTS I've fallen on my head wearing a helmet several times and it just feels like your brain clashes against your cranium I've also fallen on my knees and got a tennis ball sized hematoma Man these professionals are admirable to me
I was surprised when they talked about the snurfboard. I got one back in the day. There was a local 'big' hill everyone used for sledding. I actually became pretty good on my board. We didn't have any runs close that I could have tried skiing or learned snowboarding later. FYI, a snurfboard had a nylon rope attached on the upturned nose and a V shaped tail with two rough areas spaced apart for your feet. No attachments.
Both the snowboarders and surfers had such great personalities, they all seem like they’d be just as cool off camera. Both sports seem to have cultures that really value patience and a willingness to laugh it off and try again. Those traits lend themselves really well to both teaching and learning and make for a really fun video to watch!
Yes, and they seem to understand that falling is a part of both sports, at all levels but especially at the beginning. So there's no embarrassment, just a laugh and then try again.
Now I want to see three snow boarders try to surf for the first time. I'm sure it will be just as hilarious. Water is not snow and I think surfers are smart enough to know this. Incidentally I do both. I live in Southern California and I can go surfing, snowboarding, and motor biking in the desert all in one day :).
You're living my dream haha I've always wanted to learn how to surf and snowboard and motor biking would be epic to try too! Do you recommend any specific surfing or snowboarding schools or places to learn at ?
These instructors seem so great! I went skiing once and got left on the mountain alone by... Everyone and it was terrifying... Would have been great to have had such good instructors
i have been snowboarding for 20 years and thought it would be an advantage in surfing. i was totally wrong. it was like snowboarding in an avalanche, i didnt felt comfortable with the element controlling me instead of the snow laying still.
I tried snowboarding once and watching this video makes me realize how much i didnt understand and that this teacher explains it better plus the slope is a lot smoother so it makes it easier to learn. I think.
I’ve been skiing for 18 years, I’m 21, and I also surf, for 12 years. I love both and am fast at both. Living in Southern California, so happy can continue this!
Johnny and Scotty are fabulous. They have such infectious personalities, they're kind and encouraging and happy. They're everything you want in an instructor because if they make it light and fun and keep you positive, because learning new things can be very discouraging sometimes, then it makes the person learning much more likely to not only learn, but to want to keep pursuing the topic.
15:26 that was the most surprising thing ever when I went skiing in the US... they don’t always put the SAFETY bar down! America EXPLAIN? Also gotta love the nostalgia of seeing folks stand on a snowboard for the first time, my thighs hurt just remembering the day I did that
Aaron Lieberman kids are usually very active and could easily fall off (I was maybe 12 when I went over there) and I do know some adults which don’t have anything better to do then move way too much
Richard Powers are the lifts quite low down... I don’t have any problems with heights but I do know that if I fall off bc of maybe some very heavy wind or some idiot doing stupid stuff I’d probably have some urgent medical emergency/die
Johnny nailed that falling leaf. I remember how long it took me to "get" the movement with the heels and toes. Especially the sitting back onto your hips and steering.
I’ve tried almost all major board sports. And I would say surfing is by far the most challenging and time consuming one among them. Top reason for this is because in surfing, there really isn’t any constant playground for you to practice as in any other sports where you get to figure out your mistake every time you fall and try again. Every beach is different, same beach is different in different parts, condition can change very quickly in one spot which mean you have to adjust to it, and every single wave behaves differently. In short, everything keeps changing in this sport, it takes time and love to be called a surfer. In contrast, I tried snowboarding for half a day without any previous board sports experience. Hard falls to begin with and nail normal cruising and can do some proper carving, beginner tricks and low jumps in 2days.
tried my first day of snowboarding yesterday and i killed it! my family and i ski always so i had to teach myself but did super well regardless. snowboarding is almost exactly like riding a ripstik
i think that the first thing they should’ve done was teach them how to fall properly, they were all making me a little nervous when they were landing on their hands 😂
I guess the main difference and difficulty is the fact that with snowboard you can't move your feet like in surfing and if you get out of balance, your instinct wants to move the feet and you can't. It looks a lot of fun.
If anyone here has been to Bridger Bowl in Bozeman, MT...the progression and skill I learned there is INSANE. I’ve been snowboarding almost 4 years, I live in NC so there isn’t much around and I used to go to Cataloochee in Maggie Valley and one year I went to Montana w my family... the first day, my second year at Bridger and I’m riding south/north bowl and killing the gullies and moguls. Before that I was ALWAYS on blow and groomed snow and I have progressed SO much in the past 2 years. If your looking to learn fast and well, take a lesson there. It’s totally worth it.
When I started snowboarding last year I had no idea what I was doing and my dad usually skis and he wanted to try snowboarding. We both got knocked down by the lift getting on and off. My dad thought “oh let’s do black diamond first! We can do it!” I was terrified. When we got to the top and fell off the lift, my mom saw a guys who looked like he knew what he was doing, and he supposedly was an instructor on that mountain, so he stayed with me for 2 hours teaching me basics for free. He told me one way to stay on your heel edge was to pretend like you r sitting in a chair. That was very helpful. Now I’ve only ever gone snowboarding 5 times and got my first board and boots for my birthday. I love it. I’m learning fast and now trying to practice toe edge😊
Skateboarded my whole life, went snowboarding and descended the whole 6'800 ft. Wasn't that hard after falling quite a bit, that biggest thing I had to adapt to was the weird feeling of having my ankles locked in without any movement.
this is fun to watch. it's like learning to ride all over again. I've actually never heard that called floating leaf. my instructor called it a snow plow. and gliding was called scootering. I''m really surprised they didn't learn toeside. I used to go down the whole bunny hill toeside just to practice it
I'd like to see a follow up on those who returned a few times to see how fast they progress and if they think being a surfer has helped them get it quicker. Plus it would be nice to see them choosing to wear some safety gear. Do they wear safety gear on the surf?
I grew up surfing and now board here in the Rockies. Repetition is everything & you don't get that in the ocean. I have sat out past the break for hours in one surf session, catching just a few waves that lasted under 20 seconds each. We have slopes out here that go for miles. Love them both tho.
They both look dope ! My 12 year old is a fantastic skier- he started boarding last winter, he said mum skiing is lame . He loves boarding, he’s still pretty new but he’s gotten the hang & loves it .
I love that you can see one of the most universal experiences of learning to snowboard as an adult, which is watching children under 10 go downhill better than you.
I found snowboarding to be pretty easy and I caught in very quick though it could be because I skate and surf. I personally didn’t but I’m rather surprised that the instructor didn’t make them wear helmets especially as a beginner
I really love this channel because you see these 2 sports you think are connected, and you find out all the ways they're different, and it really makes both make more sense.
Turning on a snowboard is the exact same as surfing, and it should have been explained like that. Surfing just sucks cause that edge doesn't engage nearly as much as on snow. Was annoying to learn I couldn't euro carve a surfboard when I stood up for the first time.
Skateboarding would be much easier transitioning compared to Surfing, surfing is really slow and there's no anxiety about falling as it's water. Skateboarding has a lot of similarities with snowboarding, so it only took me about two days snowboarding to be able to actually "ride" & to go down slopes while curving/turning.
Definitively interesting how Buckley told them to keep their arms at their sides and to not use them, where as a lot of other instructors tell you to use your arms to help with your balance and to point where you want to go, etc. Seems like it's a lot harder to learn that way.