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Surfing Explained: Ep3 What is Surfboard Volume 

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In Episode 3 of Surf Simply's animated exploration of surf science, we explain how the surfboards volume impacts which waves you can catch, and your success at catching those waves.
This episode was written by Surf Simply Coaching Director Harry Knight, and animated and edited by Surf Simply Coach Will Forster.
Season 1 will cover 4 episodes over the next 4 weeks:
Ep1: Understanding Speed and Grip
Ep2: Generating Speed and Grip
Ep3: What is Surfboard Volume
Ep4: Using an Online Volume to Weight Calculator
Transcript:
In this weeks episode, we’re going to explore surfboard volume, and what it actually means to us.
What is Volume?
The volume of your board is a measurement of the total amount of space that your board occupies. If your board were a perfect cube, then a simple length x width x height calculation would be all we’d need. However, as your board is full of curves and concaves, the whole thing is a little more complicated. In the past, the only way of knowing was to dunk your board in a bath, and see how much water was displaced and this is why we normally measure surfboard volume in liters rather than Cubic Inches.
Nowadays with most boards designed using computer software, it’s easy to calculate the volume of a finished board, and most of the leading brands display the volume of their boards both on their websites, and increasingly on the surfboard itself. As some ballpark figures, an average shortboard would probably be around 25-35 Litres, while a 7’ midlength would be between 40-50L. A longboard might go from 60-100L, and a SUP could easily top 250L.
Why is Volume Important?
Volume matters because it gives us a realistic idea of how big our boards are. Ever since the “Retro Revolution” of the early 2000s, people have been riding an increasingly diverse range of surfboards, and now the standard 3 dimensions (length, width and thickness) don’t give us enough information to decide if a board will work for us or not, and you can shape 3 boards with the same 3 dimensions, that look and surf very differently.
In reality, the thing that volume really tells us is how “buoyant” the surfboard will be, and therefore how well the board will float you in the water. This matters because the higher a board floats you out of the water, the less drag your body will create as you paddle, and so the faster you’ll be able to move. The faster you can paddle, the more waves you can catch, and the less steep those waves need to be in order to catch them. However, the volume of the board is only half the equation, the other part is the weight of the surfer, as a heavier surfer will need more volume to create the same buoyancy.
This brings us to the important ratio between a surfer’s weight in Kilograms and a surfboard’s volume in Litres, which we’ve decided to describe as a percentage, as we think this is the most intuitive way to express these ratios. As an example, an 80kg surfer riding on a 40L board would have a ratio of 50%, while a 40kg surfer on the same board would have a ratio of 100%.
What do I do with this Information?
There are no hard and fast rules when it comes to choosing a surfboard. Many people have learnt from day one on tiny shortboards, while others have purposely chosen to only surf 9ft+ longboards, and individuals from both groups have gone on to be world champions. There will always be a huge amount of subjectivity in the final decision, and a board that one person loves may not click with another.
With all that said, you should not view any size of board as a “goal”, you should view a maneuver as a goal. A misconception that has plagued surfing for decades is the idea that a smaller board = a better surfer, and too many people view the size of their board, as a badge of their ability in the water. The problem is that while a smaller board is, in theory, easier to turn than a bigger one, it is also easier to force bad technique on, which long term will hold you back far more than those extra 10 liters ever could.
A board that is too small will paddle slow, catch waves late, and bog down in turns. A board that is too big on the other hand has only one downside; if your technique is poor, you can’t cheat and torque the board round with your upper body.
By using this information as a starting point along with a volume to weight calculator, you will be able to choose a board to help you work on the techniques to progress.
In next weeks episode, we will be exploring how to get the most from the Surf Simply Volume to Weight online calculator.

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Комментарии : 65   
@M4Nathan007
@M4Nathan007 4 года назад
Pretty accurate Volume calculator: [Length (in inches) X Width X Thickness] divided by 106.5
@SurfSimply
@SurfSimply 4 года назад
Wow Nathaniel I’ve never heard that before and just tested it on a few Firewire boards from their website with the necessary dimensions and it was within a few tenths each time! May I ask how you came to know this?
@summerwinterfallspring4663
@summerwinterfallspring4663 3 года назад
@@SurfSimply he will never share his secrets man lol
@uluwatu77
@uluwatu77 4 года назад
You guys are doing an amazing job. Thank you. I've been surfing for 40 years and just now I'm beginning to learn and understand what goes behind the curtains on the sport I'm most passionate about. Thanks
@dennisgordon7767
@dennisgordon7767 Год назад
This is really nicely done. The narration the animation and the thought process of how to show whats being said. Kudos
@timothyom2008
@timothyom2008 4 года назад
Amazing as always! Please keep the science of surfing updates coming! It’s fascinating and very helpful.
@SurfSimply
@SurfSimply 4 года назад
Thank you Timothy! We’re enjoying making them.
@surfcompanions7973
@surfcompanions7973 4 года назад
amazing series! Keep going! Great idea!
@marksilverman1517
@marksilverman1517 4 года назад
This is fantastic!
@markk717
@markk717 3 года назад
Great series. My question is how the volume of the board affects its behaviour when it is planing. The buoyant force depends only on the material below the waterline, and when planing, that is the lower half or third of the board. So the volume of material above the waterline should not affect the board's performance once the board is up and planing. I would be very interested in your take on this.
@joacole
@joacole 4 года назад
Mate, such great content you've shared, keep these series coming, it is a clear representation of adding value, my 1 year old niece could understand this, very well explained, congrats !!
@SurfSimply
@SurfSimply 4 года назад
Thanks for your kind words Joaquin!
@nicolaspohl5470
@nicolaspohl5470 4 года назад
Awesome video. Is there a recommended ratio for a shortboard?
@inigodeaustria658
@inigodeaustria658 4 года назад
Thank you so much for what you do!! God bless
@SurfSimply
@SurfSimply 4 года назад
It’s our pleasure Inigo!
@MrYannickVincent
@MrYannickVincent 4 года назад
Epic, Love this series, keep them coming! Thanks Yannick
@SurfSimply
@SurfSimply 4 года назад
Thanks Yannick. We’re glad you’re enjoying them!
@nirisheregaming900
@nirisheregaming900 Год назад
Great video! I wonder though what does volume focused on different parts of the board mean... For example more volume in the Lower part of the shortboard
@MaliciousLobster
@MaliciousLobster 4 года назад
These are great. Keep them coming!
@SurfSimply
@SurfSimply 4 года назад
Thank you!
@stephengreenwood8129
@stephengreenwood8129 4 года назад
Thank you for these, I love theory craft and understanding what physics are involved. This lets me visualize what's happening, understand why the board dynamics and kinetics with water moving under it this allowing me to adjust my learning progressively rather than ” you will just know when you know ” what kind of bollocks learning is that?!!
@SurfSimply
@SurfSimply 4 года назад
Thank you Stephen, having a deeper understanding can only help progressing at a sport, especially one as complicated as surfing!
@krusher74
@krusher74 4 года назад
Now all you have to do is work out volume compared to planing area compared to rail volume and there interactions
@SurfSimply
@SurfSimply 4 года назад
Haha we might leave that to the scientists, but wouldn’t it be great if those types of experiments were accessible?
@krusher74
@krusher74 4 года назад
@@SurfSimply I am a bodyboarder and have learned a lot about this stuff from riding different prone craft, Ride a thin paipo or Alaia (hardy any volume or rail volume) or a surf mat and you will soon learn what it all does once you don't have it.
@tankimarkgraaf
@tankimarkgraaf 4 года назад
@@krusher74 I mean sure you know what does what, but the reason why these things do what they do is what I love about these vids :) Ofcourse we do indeed have the problem that we kinda need to get testing in a lab for the some of the info and thats where your experience knowledge comes in, lovely how those can work together :)
@TheDeivyl
@TheDeivyl 4 года назад
Niiicee! Keep up the good job! 👏🏻🤙🏻
@lukehunter3902
@lukehunter3902 4 года назад
These are the best informational surfing videos out there. Period
@SurfSimply
@SurfSimply 4 года назад
Thank you Luke, we’re stoked you’re enjoying them!
@lukehunter3902
@lukehunter3902 4 года назад
@@SurfSimply YEW!
@RobCaseXSWIM
@RobCaseXSWIM 4 года назад
Beautiful! Well done Will
@SurfSimply
@SurfSimply 4 года назад
Thank you Rob!
@jasontroy3911
@jasontroy3911 4 года назад
Volume is only a general guide...other factors are surface area in the rear 2/3rds as well as overall rocker
@ULiel101
@ULiel101 4 года назад
Great series of videos. I do think there is a problem though with the volume criteria in surfboards as they can be made from different materials (PU, EPS, wood etc..) with different densities (hence "buoyancies") and with varying types and amounts of glassing. So, as you explain, what we really want to know is how buoyant the board is, specifically compared to the surfer's weight. Maybe a better, alternative criteria for example is that of average overall density of the board or graph of board percent submerged vs. surfer's weight.
@marisareddy7141
@marisareddy7141 Год назад
Did the video say how much percent buoyancy you want to have?
@ULiel101
@ULiel101 Год назад
@@marisareddy7141 It's been 2 years since I watched it and also not sure I understand the question..what are you trying to figure out?
@marisareddy7141
@marisareddy7141 Год назад
@@ULiel101 I'm wondering if the board should be submerged at a certain volume ratio
@ULiel101
@ULiel101 Год назад
What's your definition of volume ratio? But in terms of submersion there's no one answer. It depends on the wave and surfer preference. Sometimes one can prefer an in the water feel and sometimes more on top.
@boltup5566
@boltup5566 4 года назад
People think they can't turn longboards because they're too big. Then they drop down to a fish because they think it will be easier to turn. No. They can't turn them because they don't get their back foot over the fins. They try to turn from the middle of the board swinging their arms and "looking where you want to go".
@SurfSimply
@SurfSimply 4 года назад
Absolutely Crisby, technique is perhaps the most impactful part of surfing. When you see surfers like Taylor Jenson and his aggressive longboard style, it’s clear what the potential is for bigger boards. It’s just a case of learning how to access those controls. Thanks for commenting, we really love engaging with those who care to deconstruct the process!
@AlessandroTrapassi
@AlessandroTrapassi 4 года назад
Can't wait for another episode
@SurfSimply
@SurfSimply 4 года назад
Thank you Alessandro, we’re excited for you to see them!
@fuckmyego
@fuckmyego 3 года назад
Thank you for this! I've had so many people tell me that i HAD to learn on a giant longboard, but i only am interested in shortboard slashing. wut do?
@SurfSimply
@SurfSimply 3 года назад
Well I’d still recommenced a longer board to improve faster. Having surplus speed and stability far outweighs any need for manueverability if you are new to surfing.
@fuckmyego
@fuckmyego 3 года назад
@@SurfSimply thank you for the tip, I'll get some basics down on a long board before I attempt anything else
@zuyah287
@zuyah287 3 года назад
Awesome, supporting comments under every video!🙌
@SurfSimply
@SurfSimply 3 года назад
It’s a great community Zuya, thanks for being a part of it :)
@krusher74
@krusher74 4 года назад
It would be interesting/educational the hear the physics explained (as its a popular miss conception) that a 5kg 30L eps/epoxy board isnt more buoyant than a 5kg 30L PU board.
@SurfSimply
@SurfSimply 4 года назад
Absolutely Krusher, I might note that down as a future episode.
@tomzook
@tomzook 4 года назад
From a physics point of view the net support from a board is buoyant force - total weight. An EPS/epoxy board of equal volume may be .5kg lighter than a PU board. Compared to total weight, including your body, that's not much (a breakfast burrito maybe). BUT when it comes to turning, there is less mass to move under your feet. Less mass means less inertia, means less resistance to forces. So your ability to turn and adjust the board under your feet is a much bigger advantage of the lighter materials in an EPS board.
@aaron21000
@aaron21000 2 года назад
having too much foam is better than too little? A novel idea, haha.
@muhamadizzaruddin3330
@muhamadizzaruddin3330 2 года назад
My height is 175cm My weight around 80kg Can you suggest my shortboard size??? 🙏🙏🙏
@paulmarshall9738
@paulmarshall9738 4 года назад
I would have to say, too much volume is not a good thing if you are an intermediate to advanced surfer. Too much volume slides out and does not allow for rail to rail surfing without constantly trying to console the board. For the beginner to intermediate surfers yes it is good, but not for intermediate to advanced surfers. You should make this clear in your video. And possibly do a volume video for intermediate to advanced surfers.
@SurfSimply
@SurfSimply 4 года назад
Hi Paul, I would perhaps argue that volume is rarely a limiting factor with good technique, and riding a board with a higher volume can come with its own fun and experience!
@jonathantiernan2148
@jonathantiernan2148 4 года назад
I like the idea of a big board only having one downside.
@SurfSimply
@SurfSimply 4 года назад
Me too Jonathan. I love to see riders like TJ Nelson and Joel Tudor enjoying bigger boards.
@soulsurfer3102
@soulsurfer3102 3 года назад
Its better to train and be fit.and stay with more volume
@Bballbunny10
@Bballbunny10 Год назад
Thanks for the video - does your volume:weight calculator apply to foam surfboards? I'm 65kg, ~late level 2, looking at a 48L foamie - i'm going to assume this has naturally got more bouyancy and therefore is appropriate despite it not matching my level on the graph.
@Bballbunny10
@Bballbunny10 Год назад
Update: I've done some googling: What is EPS density? 11 to 32 kg/m3 What is PU (normal board) density): as low as 30 kg/m3 to 100 kg/m3 So, say EPS is ~ 1.5 times less dense / more bouyant than PU. Therefore for 65kg, level 2.5, minimum foamie volumes ~38L are suitable.
@NotnaRed
@NotnaRed 4 года назад
So what about a short board with high volume? No downsides to that other than being able to catch all waves before everyone else and ride them with a bad technique :D
@colonelkurtz2269
@colonelkurtz2269 3 года назад
Some people call that a "fun shape" or " fun board". Its similar to a short board but is rounded and the nose is curved. They are also longer than 6ft to allow for the volume and curve.
@Wize817
@Wize817 9 месяцев назад
​@@colonelkurtz2269 Know what it is, but whats the downside? Why isn't this the most popular choice?
@colonelkurtz2269
@colonelkurtz2269 9 месяцев назад
@Wize817 not sure, really. Your local conditions should probably influence what you ride. My home break could be 18 inches to 15 ft. We just did our best with the only boards we had. 🌊 🏄‍♂️
@dolbyderringer2225
@dolbyderringer2225 3 года назад
That said, why do pros continue to ride potato chips with the lowest volume they can handle? Wouldn't they want to increase their wave count in a 20 min or 30 min heat? I mean, a super fit pro could easily toss around a board 5 to 10L over their thinnest potato chip. So what is the competitive advantage to getting the knifiest boards? Wouldn't a turn look just as impressive to the judges on a slightly beefier shortboard?
@willb3513
@willb3513 4 месяца назад
Shapey MCshaperson! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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