@j.c.harrisassetmanagement7939 You must be kidding?! We have pain relief these days, we have dentists, doctors, cures for diseases that used to be death sentences, not to mention better quality food, human rights and freedom. I’m a low wage earner but I was lucky to be born in a wealthy, full democratic nation with free health care and as a woman, I have more rights than my mother had when she was young, not to mention the generations of women before her. And I didn’t do anything to “deserve” this, I was just fortunate enough to be born in a better place and time, something many of us should be thankful for. There are still unfortunately so many people that lack all these rights, material things and necessities that we take for granted.
@@Bundyphile So true, Ms. B! I'm also hella grateful for my good fortune to enjoy full rights as a woman, and free health care within a prosperous democracy. Had I been born a decade earlier in the 40's, I would have been still held back by mandated discrimination. I give all credit and thanks to the women who fought so hard, to win us equal rights!
Have you seen those pictures and videos of kids from even the early 1900’s? They look super old. Legit little adults. Even dressed like it. Those kids mostly worked and it shows. They had under-eye bags and stress in their eyes, looked like the weight of the world was on their shoulders. (When they finally got to be young adults they went off to ww2. Terribly unlucky)
Oooo wait I know the reason for this!!! So basically (of course 🙄) it’s because of Jesus 😮💨 sooo they believed that he was born perfect, unchanged. Basically they were meant to make babies look powerful and wise. The reasoning is incredibly stupid to me obviously but I’m not a painter of ugly renaissance babies soo 🤷🏼♀️
@@felonious_c "My two jobs forced me to work barefoot on snow under the 5000°C sun rays. The Odontocætus were always messing with my pile of Uranium so I had to do overtime every single one of my 500 hours shifts! The youngs these days have it the easiest!"
Ludicrously high infant mortality was the biggest issue, really. This lasted all the way to the late 19th century - someone wrote how upon reaching the age of 21,they were further away from death than when they were younger
The claim that parents didn’t love their children as much back then is shaky at best you have to understand that child development just wasn’t understood and also how brutal the adult world was even in the video beating is seen as a way to keep them safe from the plague. Many did this because they felt it was the best way to prepare their children. We have plenty of documentation of families being heart broken by the lost of their children. It’s important to remember that even though the culture was a lot different from today that these were still people with the capacity to feel empathy and love. It’s just that science and politics of the time are much of what’s left for us to study
I would imagine they cherished each child, but with the knowledge they could be dead of some mysterious malady in an instant. (Recall the bedtime prayer ..if I should die before I wake…. ). They likely kept their emotions guarded in constant preparation for the possibility their child could die.
I think for many centuries the beating of children was almost seen as a way to show care for them. Family systems in that time were very complex with the way death was so widespread and the number of children people would have.
It seems like childhood really wasn’t much of a thing until recently…like 1900s. You had kids and they worked your land or went to a factory as the technology advanced. Most third world countries operate that way as well. If you go to school it’s normally only a few years, if your lucky enough to get educated at all.
yep...my grandparents who lived in soviet union have told me how they worked full days as children , I was always horrifyed when I heard stories about their childhood :D I am 26 and I can say that I was spoiled as f growing up
I'm so sorry the woman meant to nurture you was so abusive. Children are precious and not everyone knows how to be a capable mom. You deserved better. It's stories like yours that drive me to be the best mom possible. For the kids who didn't have that.
Working is education if it’s what you want to do you only need school for a few yrs to become literate and accounting which is what most ppl need. We need to have job training and less prerequisites for jobs. The whole point of a job was supposed to be the employer took on all the risk that’s why that got a higher percentage of profit. You’re not paid as much as a owner but your guaranteed your pay and it’s steady. Now the employee takes on a ton of risk you must come to the job with 10s or 100s of thousands of dollars in training that you paid for yourself that took 4 yrs or more with experience in said trade. Where’s the employers risk they don’t even need to know the trade now why hire you to literally do everything you learn nothing from the job the employer reaps all the benefits even tho with your training along side your coworkers non of you actually need your employer. It’s too imbalanced now before jobs were opportunities to learn and rank up maybe become and owner now most employers don’t even wanna make you an official worker you’re contracted so damn now it’s really dumb you’re not getting the bigger percentage of the money because the last incentive to be a worker is guaranteed steady pay and that’s been ripped away. That’s why most businesses now have a high threshold to start it up either: expensive licenses, equipment cost a lot, real estate cost,facilitating costs, industry already been monopolized so at every level you’re blocked ect ect. Basically entertainment is they online field you can raise up class levels from either: pro sports, music, acting, art(drawing/painting/sculpting, book writer, screen play, makeup/special effects), influencer (insta,TikTok,YT, whatever else comes out). scamming not really entertainment but you gotta be entertaining to scam via e-mail 2 NFTs. Capitalism “representative” democracy suck at this late stage they’re okay structures but obviously after 100s of yrs the elite figure a way to rig these systems like any other except they play sick mind games and say we decide who’s in charge and we have a chance at wealth so we don’t start a coup or riot because we don’t realize we’re not free or being F over we’ve been groomed to blame ourselves. Ppl liter don’t wanna tax the rich because they might become rich and don’t want half there money going to the government 😂. We’re taught to admire the rich because we pretend riches here are gotten out of merit. Making it fair and equal we all have the sane 24hrs blah blah
That’s not true. I’ve read stories from the BC era where the concept of children as apposed to adults is very well developed. In tribal societies, children often are a separate rank from other people, a different name from their adult self, a different outfit, and more basic duties. Adolescents often undergo ceremonies where they entered adulthood.
This universe is just a pain generator man. The greatest cruelty is how blissful existence could be if these concepts of pain and fear weren't capable of being so overwhelmingly powerful. The bad just outweighs the good so much. Oh wow I'm really impressed with the graphics in this.
My granddad, born in 1892, always said, "You're either a kid living at home or an adult living on your own. He had been working in a stone quarry since the age of 7.
I agree! I left home at 15 in 1978. I lived on the streets for a year. Even though I was on the streets I took odd jobs in order to eat. Got a decent job at 16 with fake ID. Saved until I could rent a room from a girl’s family I had met. When I turned 17 I returned home so my parents could sign for me to join the US Navy. I look at kids nowadays and there’s no way most could pull off what I did. I volunteer extensively in my community with the homeless. I know what it’s like to be so hungry I fought a possum for a bag of day old donuts the store threw away.
@@kaptainkaos1202 I left home in '72. Punched a friend of my stepmother's in the face for calling me a deadbeat and referring to my wages from a labour job as a handout. I was getting $1.24 an hour, 12-hour days, paid for 8 because they didn't pay overtime where I was working. The bitch had been given my bed, even though I was paying rent for the privilege of living at home. I took the hint, left home, lived on the streets for a week, landed a job, got a room to rent, never spoke to my parents again. Same as my great-granddad, who had been dumped the same way in Dublin, Ireland, a century before. He never spoke to his parents again either.
My grandfather was a Caribbean man born in 1919. His father died of the flu when he was 7 & his mom was gone by the time he was 16. He often told me about the time he spent on multiple islands. He said once his parents were gone he had to travel to where the work was.
my grandpa on my moms side used to be very traditional. Were asian and he wanted his firstborn to be a boy. My mother turned out to be a girl and my grandpa beat my grandmother for that on a daily to the point she had almost died. My mother wasn’t safe either, she was abused by both her parents and has severe trauma to where she can’t remember a huge chunk of her childhood. My mother swore she would never hit her kids and she did exactly that except she only had an addiction of smoking and drinking which only lead to verbal abuse. I actually feel so bad for kids in medieval time. Their brains were still developing yet they were considered as adults, and the fact that people at the time had little to no affection to their kids? I’m so glad in the recent century’s we have grown to have more empathy and sympathy
stop when i wrote that comment idekw i wrote my moms whole backstory LMAO. I think maybe its because if it was bad recently imagine how bad it was before@@coolkitty2075
Verbal abuse is as bad as beating.. Destroyed any self confidence I could have earned in childhood made me think verbal abuse and use of swear words were normal which led me to get into a toxic relationship with a man who didn't know how to communicate and even debate in a polite way... Always verbally abused me until I earned some of my self respect and left for good...
*a child is born, and it begins to speak:* Newborn: doctor, pray tell, what time is it? Doctor: my dear babe, it is morning! Your mother has birthed a son! Newborn: no! i mean what time period is this?? Mother: my baby boy, it is 1593 Newborn: *cries hysterically*
Also every child was a mouth to feed & when your already barely surviving becoming pregnant wasn't a happy time. Most were terrified of pregnancy due to so many mothers dying during pregnancy, childbirth, or after birth infections. Not to mention birthing dead babies was looked at as YOU wanted the baby dead.
My Mother enjoyed beating me black and blue everyday. Literally. She used certain implements too her liking. It wasn't until I reached the age of seven and I told her I would get bigger than her that it all came to an abrupt stop. My Dad was always out of town working. When he came home and found all the marks on me my Mother got the same. This however did not teach her but made her furious. I ran away from home at the age of twelve when my Dad divorced my Mother. I Never went back and now I am 62. I was married and never had any kids. This was my Mothers fault when at the age of five she beat me so bad I ended up in a hospital for four months. Why a parent would do something this awful to their own kids blows my mind. I have to add this. Don't get me wrong. My Mother fed and clothed me and taught me right from wrong. She also made sure I had decent grades in school. I love my Mother but also can't stand her. I never saw or talked to her again. She passed several year's ago and I did not know. Some of us just have mean Mother's I guess. If I would have had kids yes I probably would have paddled them if they were bad. But Not in any way, shape or form would I strike a child in anger or pleasure. Yes my ex, my girlfriends and my late fiance 'If she were still alive.' would attest to that.
Can't help but wonder why no one stepped in and took you away from her, or better yet, put her in jail after that horrible beating at age 5! I'm your age and know things were a lot different back then but truly horrific shit was usually dealt with.
@@terriwetz6077 When you said your age you answered your question. It was the sixties and being Catholic it was okay for a Mother to discipline their child and everything was kept hush hush. I was just one of many unfortunate kids that had a mean Mother. But please don't get me wrong. She fed and clothed me Taught me right from wrong and made sure I had decent grades in school. Yes I love my Mother but hate her too. She passed away several year's ago and never knew about it.
Great video! But I think you ought to have addressed how children's lives varied depending on their parents' economic status. I would say the children of nobles and royals probably had an upbringing closer to what we consider "childhood" in the modern world. They had toys, tutors, and (in the case of royal heirs) were considered precious by the adults around them.
Probably less hassle for a nurse to drop a modern baby on it's head these days. Probably simply end up in alcohol counseling instead of being flayed alive.
Children were considered precious in every strata of society. As a peasant or artisan your offspring meant aid and succession for the time you couldn't work anymore.
This goes for just about everything from diet to access to entertainment though. The general population for the most part live better than medieval nobility.
True, but the period of childhood also ended much earlier. Boys often went on campaign with their fathers in their early teens, and noble girls were married at a young age.
This was fascinating if not a little horrifying. As somebody who's always been interested in the middle ages I've often wondered about this. Thank you for your great videos
Childhood was defiantly a concept in ancient times. Children were often seen as being closer to the spirits, such a angels, saints, and vampires. Children still had to work, but they were definitely treated differently from adults.
The D for Discipline strikes a chord with me. I have 2 grown children. My spouse and I never once struck, slapped or beat our children. That was HARD! It’s so much easier to slap a child’s hand than come up with something to punish and teach the child. Like I said my children are now adults. They are successful, great parents themselves now and are just good people. Couldn’t be prouder of either.
if you would ever hurt your own child instead of actually be a parent and teach them not to do what they are doing you shouldn't be a parent it does more psychological harm than good
I mean I kinda don't blame them, they had no birth control and to them with no knowledge of sids or shaken baby syndrome they probably thought kids died randomly anyway
Corporal punishment was still legal in SCHOOLS in 2001...in alabama. The gym teacher usually came to the classroom to do it in front of everybody. He was like the executioner. He was proud of his paddle, he bragged the holes in the wood made it swing faster.
There is a story about El Cid, the knight who basically spearhead the reconquista against the Muslims in Spain. During his medival feasts his daughters used to crush the party and pull their father's beard. He of course shouted displeased in a mighty voice that made everybody's blood freeze and shiver in fear. His daughters just giggled and ran their way... Pretty much the same when I shout at my daughter during barbecues or parties across the room when I catch her doing mischief - everybody drops his shit only for her to do the exact same thing only slower and smiling at me waiting for another reaction on my part. Not much seemed to have changed. On the other hand you have Rembrandt who sometimes knew approximately how many sons he had - the number of daughters was of no concern for him...
8:00 I don't remember the exact date now, but at some point in Medieval Europe infanticide of the new-borns was allowed by the law, as long as the baby didn't recive any earthly food. There were instances when one of the other parent or other person wanted to save the baby, which they expected could fall victim of infanticide, would put some honey or goat milk or anything else (apparently in the case that the biological mother wouldn't or couldn't feed the baby directly after delivery) in the baby's mouth, causing the child to obtain protection of the law and warding off any attempts of child murder.
Today, on a very special episode of Sesame Street, we learn the alphabet. Yay! A is for apple, yummy and good. B is for ball, what a fun toy! C is for child murder. D is for dog, what a great pet! E is for… Wait, can we go back to C for a second?
"A medieval childhood was a completely different experience than it is today." I dunno, the beatings sound pretty much identical to what I experienced as a child, right down to the lash cuts and fractured skull.
I studied Medieval History at uni eons ago. At the time it was fairly interesting, but the method of delivery was mostly boring. This video really fires up the imagination and the probability of fact makes so much sense of . I'm in danger of rediscovering my love for the subject again. Great stuff.
Mate your videos are top notch 👌🏼 I think it may be the first time I’ve heard my trade even mentioned (mason) on RU-vid. Have you read Pillars of The Earth by Ken Follett? I’d love it if you done more about trades and jobs etc I enjoyed the apprenticeship section.
Not being allowed to be a child exists today. I have known parents who would not allow their children to talk “baby talk”, play childhood games etc. It was as if the parents could not wait to celebrate “the empty nest.”
Reminds me vividly of my childhood in my hometown. There was no separation from adults to children, well, actually there was just adults. Children were not considered
My mother doesn't love me, or if she does it's not nearly as much as the other two children she has with my stepfather. I can't remember a single time of her hugging me, telling me she loved me, or that she was proud of me. I did hear how r*tarded and stupid I was. No common sense, she'd say. She'd lay into me for a good time and then leave me to myself. Nothing I did was good enough, and I was the "bad" kid for getting into an abusive relationship (guess who helped push me into it?) And for not following "3 simple rules". I was kicked out at 18. There was also no depression when I was young, so I went completely untreated and unnoticed because my stepfather didn't want any meds or therapy around our family. But when my sister started showing mental health signs? Let's get her all the treatment. I refuse to be a mother like she was, I will smother my kids with love and communication. I will never make them feel like they don't belong in the family. I don't even know if I want my kids around them. I guess it was just the hand I was dealt.
You were chosen as the family scapegoat. Neglected, abused, gaslighted and discarded. I was treated the same in my family. I was not kicked out but I left home at 18. The abuse continued into adulthood. I attemped many times to talk to my family and get them to change the horrible way they treated me but of course THEY didn't need to change because according to them I was the one with the problem. When their abusive ways were extended to my children I went NO CONTACT. Please take my advice and protect your children from being hurt by your abusive family by going "black rock" or the lesser "Grey rock". I know you will be an excellent parent but one piece of advice: Don't be afraid to be firm with your children and don't let them "get away with it" when they are bad. The one problem I had as a parent was that I was to permissive. I was so used to just having to put up with it even I was wronged that I let my kids get away with a lot of stuff they did. Good luck and remember that you are not "bad" and you did nothing to deserve the abuse.
Fascinating stuff! I love hearing about the Middle Ages, it’s such an alien society compared to today. Fyi “chaste” rhymes with waste, and “ague” rhymes with Hague
All our ancestors survived the middle ages, that is why we are alive right now, it wasn't that difficult especially if you were strong and fit. That's why so many people have the last name "Smith" because black smiths were extreemly physically fit and most likely to survive pandemics, everyone who has the last name Smith today is descendant from these strong individuals.
I've always been told that my family's last name was Blacksmith and at some point they shortened it to Smith. Never really thought about blacksmiths being fit people and that being the reason the name Smith is common but I guess it makes sense.
@@wes773105333 Yes, and this is also why the last name Hatter is so comparatively rare despite the art of hat making being so widespread, it is because making hats was deadly due to the toxic fumes of Mercury vapor, so Hatters rarely lived long enough to reproduce thus nobody these days has that last name. The last names Fletcher (arrow maker), Cooper (barrel maker), and Miller (flour maker) are common now because these professions/names were not deadly and their children lived on to become our grand parents, parents, and eventually us.
The guild apprenticeship system is still used in Germany today. My friend served a 7 year apprenticeship to learn to manage a kennel including care, feeding and grooming dogs, selecting dogs for breeding and special care of dogs in labor and caring for puppies, and training dogs in tracking, obedience and protection. I don't believe there is any equivalent training system in the USA.
I'm a plumbing apprentice. I have to shadow a journeyman plumber for four years and clock in 8000 on the job hours until I can work on my own. But apprenticeships aren't as common in the US as they used to be.
I’m literally in pain while sitting in a chair in 2023 and I have all the comfort in the world with my air conditioner. I would not survive even standing there in those times.
Back in my day, we had to cross the hot gates and pass the might of Xerxes army, best his immortals, run from Sauron, and narrowly escape a foe on par with every Dark Souls Boss ever just to make it to school. Also milk came in glass bottles and if you were Gay you couldn’t talk about it.
Chastity has a practical use in that it helps to avoid venereal infections and unwanted pregnancies even if wrapped in benighted religious superstition.
Have fun with your wife that has a 20 plus body count that will divorce you in 10 years and take all your stuff. At least you don’t have to deal with religious superstitions!
Makes little sense that the men weren't expected to be as chaste as the women though. Men can always impregnate a woman,wheras women can only get pregnant during about 5 days per month. But "Eve's sin" and all that...
Childhood is a social concept developed after the Child Protection Act 1889 was passed. Before then, children mucked in once they were old enough and they were not protected or compulsory schooled like today
Have you seen those Asian 5yo playing advanced piano pieces? Take that medieval kids! We got KPIs to chase after. We got interview and entrance exam for kindergarten! I was dead inside like a corporate slave since 5, anxious about my academic future and job prospects.😂
The information I personally have encountered… children were not allowed to speak unless spoken to, but at an early age had chores or farm work to be done. And the only time they were recognized is if they had an acquired talent in music or art or in a wealthy home or royalty… meaning some form of education. Though there was a time for play or toys, but personally I have not seen a lot of pictures of this nature.
I turn 29 this year and I grew up on corporal punishment (belts, thrashings, ect.) Can't even imagine what the kids in the middle ages got especially since kids being K illed had lessen sentence plus I can't image they had CPS back then.
A book that will well describe the life in medieval life, specific the middle ages in England in 1300. I highly recommend the book A world without End. It well describes when the bubonic plague started around 1347 too.
Speak for yourselves, in so many indigenous cultures around the world including mine, Australian Aboriginal, childhood was and still is a treasured time of life. How sad that the Europeans experience was so miserable. ❤
I remember learning about how shocked native Americans were when they saw European settlers hitting/beating thier children. Discipline actually means to teach, beatings are about power and control and basically brainwash a person into submission out of self preservation.
I assume you refer to north american natives, since mezoamericans had very severe phisical.punishments for their children, that would put europeans to shame. North american antives had completly diffrent type of societies, they were smallee communities and that way it was easier to ensure children behaved well, though I am quiet sure that it depended on tribe because I think there were some stories about how natives kept their children in line. Europeans, aztecs, inkas, chinese, all those groups that had huge civilizations with nonilities and heavy social hierarchy were completly diffrent case. All used phisical punishment as a way to tech and prepare their children for live, as it reflected how adult world was (punishments for crimes were often inflicted swiftly).
I literally cannot believe the lack of value placed on children's lives. Not only is protection of young a basic instinct all over nature, where the survival of offspring is often unlikely, but wouldn't the rarity of surviving children make the ones that survived so far infinitely MORE valuable? Can someone explain this?
Ive been thinking about it, and I feel it may be partly due to religion. But also large society structure. I noticed the larger the society/ group the less care they have for the people that form that group. I feel it's because when there are too many people you can't possibly form a bond with every individual. Thus empathy lessens and. I don't remember what I was typing I fell asleep last night while doing so and never sent it so you can get a glimpse of what I was typing
@@chickenlover657 A question of why people would be so cold toward their own children's lives. Didn't realize that was so simple and trivial. Why don't you explain it to me like I'm twelve, teacher?
To them, they didn’t think their lives as being “difficult.” That’s just how things were & they accepted it. A bird doesn’t think “I have to flap my wings all day every day, this shit fucking sucks”
If people “just accepted how things were” there would never be advancements in technology, medicine, or humanity as a whole. We would have stayed as cavemen forever.
Great content. The reign of Edward V? That’s remarkably precise dating, given thar it lasted all of a few weeks between Edward IV’s death and Richard III’s usurpation in 1483…
Imma bout to go to my job. IMMA BOUTTO WALK TO THE DISPATCHER MY COWORKER… and I am about to drop that little etymology 5:43 … because I believe I asked “why are they called that anyways since we have travelers ….” Hell yeahhhhhh
Youussa do alla dat. Finna clap both mine hands in glee for you an hope youssa gettin good answers from yor coworker. Meanwhiles, has beena long night anna must have some coffee befo ah go ah bed, yo. An ah ain't havin no bedtime story neither, cuz imma be sleepin til da mornin time, but when I a chile, ah woulda loved a story, but got hit instead, cuz dis da real world we livin in cuz.
Good, just, right, correct, excessive or too much, enough or not - punishment. Truth is like chasing a bird on the wing, never can you catch it, never can you give up; you simply follow it, as both you and your quarry drift-on into an endless and featureless horizon. And never can you awaken.
Hey great video as always I love your content. I just have a bit of a question at one point you mentioned something being written during the reign of Edward V. I mean... can we really consider Edward V to have had a reign? I just figured since Richard put an end to his coronation it wasn't widely considered that he had an actual reign? 🤔
Great video but the music track is giving me Flashbacks. There's a note that sounds almost exactly like the "BIOS Error" beep a computer makes when a serious hardware fault is detected. I kept panicking looking for which one of my devices just Blue Screened.
