Survivors, please STOP doing this! | Dead by Daylight 

*Fun fact:* in my recent games _Windows of Opportunity_ was used by *40.2%* of all Survivors. Am I the only that thinks this is crazy? Even though the perk is obviously great, I still can't wrap my head around how popular it is.

FUN FACT: Otz is able to make such long videos because Nina comes in and feeds him like grandpa

I think these perks are popular because of solo queue. A lot of altruistic perks work best with or pretty much require communication, which chase perks don’t really need.

A perk people really sleep on is Bond. It's such a useful perk. Need to team up on gens? Bond. Need someone to heal you? Bond. Need to find that injured survivor to heal them? Bond. Not sure if someone else is going for the save? Bond. Need to avoid the survivor being chased? Bond. Need to avoid other survivors while being chased? Bond. It gives so much value.

Since they nerfed fast vaulting to have literally no difference from medium vaulting, resilience feels necessary.

BHVR definitely added more hitboxes to environment objects. I keep bumping into small objects all the time in both roles.

IMO you see these "4 chase perk" builds a lot because they're more consistent for solo queue. Altruistic perks require better co-ordination to get big value and that is simply not there outside of SWFs or very skilled and knowledgeable players. That being said, it would benefit players, especially newer ones, to experiment with different perks as there's so much variety. Plus if you play with the different perks you get better at recognising when someone else is running them and how you can play around it - a better experience for everyone (except the Killer)!

I like how Otz puts this up only AFTER he finished his random streak (understandably, lol). Well played 👍

thank you for explaining that letting your teammate marinate on hook is also a form of anti tunneling. so many times ive went to a hook to reassure a teammate thats already been tunneled off hook before while the killer proximities, just to have another teammate unhook them in my face.

As a killer main I think survivors should continue this :)

Resilience does more than just chase though tbh, it’s actually really helpful with Medkits slow healing nowadays too

The problem with other perks is that there's literally only one Rebecca's perk that can actually punish camping and tunneling. Off the record is alright, but it won't protect the unhooker from going down instantly and then killer can go straight after the vulnerable person especially as some of the strongest killers. So I am not really surprised that people just want to have a chance in the chase against them, especially because of how important the first chase in the game is

I feel like this is a problem because the perks are used by unexperienced people, and people who are "more experienced/skilled" can be blinded by this, as they can feel more powerful with it. It just depends on how well the surviviors comprehends wtf is going on around, if they're competent enough. Players like Ayrun don't even need those perks, meanwhile, he could benefit from them, making him more powerful than he is already, because he could defenietly manage everything.

I've been using Reassurance, Vigil, Autodidact and Dramaturgy, a combo of 4 support perks for the longest time and my teammate's escape rates have spiked insanely compared to running all chase perks

The team won’t need as much help if you can keep the killer occupied. DH and DS are much harder to use than made for this and windows. Ppl should use a build to help them in the area they struggle the most Imo for most ppl that’s chases I think that’s why it’s so popular. I use 3 perks for chase and OTF and it’s helped me tremendously

With buckle up ftp I recommend bringing mettle cause you will be taking protection hits.

When you play alot of SoloQ, Windows is very much needed as it gives alot more benefit than i think people realise. It's not imo a "chase" perk its a "info" perk, it not only shows windows n pallets, but it can show you where pallets r being dropped so you can see where people are in chase, you see several pallets drop in one little area, you know thats probs a dead zone and you can activay avoid it. Yes it can benefit chases alot but it also provides subtle info ques as a side bonus that is highly valable in soloq

Survivors try to not be selfish challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)

10:48 Otz: Don't use too many chase Perks! Use multiple Anti-Tunnel Perks instead! Also: All 3 Survivors with chase Builds escaped. The one with the Anti-Tunnel Perks died.

As an only solo survivor I equipped kindred a few years ago and have yet to rotate it off my build, not necessarily the most game changing perk but I cannot stress enough how much keeping an eye on your teammates helps grow game knowledge, kindred will tell you where the pressured gens are, where the killer goes based on who gets chased, can save you doubling up on saves etc. I know that’s a common take but if you’re solo and especially if you’re newer I cannot recommend it enough, the fact it affects your teammates even makes it more likely your randoms will save you. Just a W perk for solos can’t imagine not running it on all my general builds

I've found my full healing build has gotten a lot more mileage ever since made for this came out. Very few people are running none chase builds right now, so even one teammate having a healing or gen focused build makes all the difference.

This is like asking a killer to stop camping and tunneling, we do not learn

As someone that uses kindred in every build, i appreciate the overall theme of this video. Can't tell how often this one perk saved the whole team. I also run sprintburst as my only real chase perk and to traverse the map quicker. The rest is optional, distortion, deja vue, we'll make it are and vigil are some favs. Windows is one of my go to perks in solo que, solely for information were a wall gets broken or where pallets are left.

I know the video isn't about that but I had no idea you completed the random perk streak. Congrats and well done Otz.

In my opinion, running chase perks is fine as long as they match your playstyle. I used to run them too although I'm a stealthy player who is repairing gens most of the time. Changed my perks and now I escape more often

I'm fresh into DBD on my PC so I don't have a lot of perks unlocked for every survivor or killer and because of that I end up with some really fun builds just using what I have available. I'm sure people who've been playing this game for some time have plenty of options available to them, it's a shame that more people don't branch out and try some interesting builds.

A slept on fact - Calm spirit stops the screams from you getting downed/hooked, jolted, pain rez, which also messes with the killer. If a killer doesnt hear a scream from jolt, they often assume the gen isnt being worked on and will leave it. Also Bond OP

i dont think this will stop killers from tunneling. I always run 4 different perks, sometimes anti tunnel, sometimes not, but if killers decide to tunnel, there is nothing much you or your teammates can do. A simple build doesn't affect the mentality of the other. Maybe this build encourages to be tunneled, but if that is the whole reason, i think its stupid, because its the same as having a gen making build, or a stealth build.

Before I was only playing killers, a little before the release of MFT I started playing survivor more and trying to learning how to chase because I was a bit burned out of playing killer, and I had a lot of fun playing builds like this ! Plus the release of made for this made me play survivor way more and I mostly play survivor now, just because I really appreciate chases like these, I think even if this build isn't strong it's just really fun to play and that's why a lot of people including me run this build

My experience playing a build similar to this, just to practice chasing is that looping is pretty easy, and at my ranks killers don't leave chase so I get good chases no gens get done forever and then I'm abandoned in endgame after playing well

Wow Otz, I'm always impressed seeing how much you improve in your off roles. Well Done!

With everyone running chase perks, great time to bring out the gen rush perks

"Survivors you shouldn't get tunnelled, that's a big misplay." Yeah okay Otz.

ive been running we’re gonna live forever as my only survivor perk for the past week and ive been having a lot of fun. Not using a lot of perks is also getting me to stop being entirely reliant on my perks

recently i have been really liking kindred + openhanded. it makes the killers aura visible from a whopping 32 meters away from the hook, that is bond level range its crazy. also i love deja vu.

Well said Otz and I couldn't agree more. You have to play a well rounded build that assists in all aspects of the game

I am not looking to be competitive so I shall continue to run my 4 heal perk builds from time to time. What makes the game fun for me is getting stacks of autodidact and snapping people from on the ground to full health in a few seconds. The take away I got from this video is just to utilize your build (i.e not having your 4 chase perk person never see the killer and spam gens). I play solo queue and there are people out there running (SOMETIMES IN TEAMS OF 2 have not seen 3 yet) urban evasion with distortion and just crouch until everyone dies. The least of my worries is people running bad perks but still playing the game.

That Buckle Up + For the People combo is genuinely a pain in the ass for most killers lmao. I'm a Ghostface main (m1 killers are extra susceptible to this I've noticed) and I've had several different matches where at least one person brought that combo and when I tell you certain parts of those matches made me mald just a little bit... 😅 It's a very good combo when it's pulled off properly, and can be so game changing. The clutch endgame plays are pretty awesome to witness from either side too, in my opinion.

The best working builds so far Known as the plot armor build botany knowledge, self care, empathy, autodidact Gen operator build Overzealous, Resilience, stakeout, dej vu Double Break out Boil over, flip flop, break out,mettle of man

Otz love that you put that little gray filter on the right side of your screen.

I am so grateful you made this video. I will link it to my solo queue teammates

Hey otz, I noticed at 9:36 - 9:41 you had to navigate past the pallet and the locker because you didn’t want to accidentally interact with either of those, to do your mend. Do you think the devs plan to ever give survivors more customization in settings to set different key binds to different interactions?

i forgot how good wesker’s chase music was

I use We'll Make It + Renewal all the time. That combination of perks not only helps me, but also my teammates in a good majority of my games. I actually run guardian a lot of the time as well so I know if the killer is coming back to tunnel off hook before I stop to We'll make It them back to full, or let them run off. Then i run Windows in my last slot as my only chase perk, just so that I, as a solo Q player, know which pallets my teammates have already used and what loops I can still run to.

Love you Otz, what did the first game demonstrate? You used deadhard once and died on hook in solo q game. Kind of demonstrates why anti-tunnelling is really irritating to run if you don't get tunneled thus a waste of perks. Had you had the anti-chase perks you could make the argument it would have worked in that game with increased effect, doing gens when injured, faster movement, ability to jump windows quicker see loops and pallets so you arn't as confused where to go next (though you did fantastic ;P) The second game is just a normal game of dbd. Your perks were largly irrelevant to how you played, they were fine but just.. you're not always getting use out of them. Typically with chase perks you will always get use out of them. Not arguing against your point just sayin' not sure how it makes any difference playing solo q with or without chase perks. You actively said in your demonstration as killer you tunneled someone off hook. In a solo q game you're dead if that happens as survivor with or without chase perks. You're looking at the

Hello friends, this is Otz, as long as the Hex totem stays up.

Recommended tip: Run perks in pairs, ex: FTP + Buckle up or MFT + Windows or MFT + Hope, or Exhaustion perk + windows. Go crazy with your pairs and you can use your other 2 slots for another pair or go 1 gen perk + 1 altruism/comfort perk. Personal favorite is Kindred + Open Handed.

It's fun watching these videos as my build has hardly changed since I started playing dbd many years ago. I almost always run botany and leader as they are fun perks that are useful but not op. And my other two perks are usually something else to help with certain situations like we'll make it (mostly for the BP stacks before the update) and now to counter potential slugging. And the last perk is probably bond or some info perk.

Remember, kids: the Survivors can't take advantage of chase perks if you aren't chasing them. I've found this can sometimes be a Catch-22, though, since if a Survivor seems to want you to chase them and you know they have chase perks, you're either going to chase them, which will waste a lot of time that could be spent delaying gens/hunting Survivors who are less good at running away, or you're not going to chase them and go do something else, which just means you'll have to deal with the same problem later. That being said, I could also very well just not know what I'm doing.

As a 90% solo que player for my survivor hours, I’ve maybe ran windows 55-60% of those games, I’ve noticed I’ve lasted longer near end game with the perk, just being able to know what’s still up vs running to shack and it’s gone just changes things

My go to build is bond, balanced lending adrenaline and resilience. It has some chase perks and a lot of info to help make plays and adrenaline to power through the gens at the end and promotes saving time by staying injured

dan, that reassurance and plot twist combo is sick!

P.S. they won’t. Sweats need those ranks, it’s like meth to them.

so, we must nerf pig

I had 2 different setup’s running made for this resilience. One running the full chase setup, with hope and windows. The other with for the people buckle up. The latter is infinitely more enjoyable to me than the other, as i have the ability to in between chases, get my teammates out of a rough situation, and even use the speed boost on gen progression from resilience as well.

I love bringing: Kindred Deja Vu Distortion (for SWF) or Reassurance (for solo) 4th perk (usually dictated by dailies or challenges)

Yeah dude lets force the mft and buckle+ftp, surely it's a healthy meta for surv and is really fun to play. AS a surv, not as killer

When you tell me not to do something, you know I'm just going to start doing it more because I'm childish.. I really am.

oh my god. congrats on completing the streak!

I like trying out different niche perks for fun, but I tend to default to Windows of Opportunity, Bond and Off the Record as my most used perks. I very rarely run a build without one or all of them. I know its pretty whack running two information perks but Windows of Opportunity and Bond really help keep teammates undisturbed while you're in chase or helps you know if someone is positioned nearby for a save when about to go down so you can make minor adjustments (move away from walls for flashlight/ get closer to a pallet for saves, etc). I've also been using Off the Record for awhile now since I tend to get more value from it than Decisive Strike. Both deactivate if you do conspicuous actions, but DS cancels for the rest of the trial whereas Off the Record can see up to two instances of use. Up to 160 seconds worth of safety net via endurance is incredible; especially since when you do take that hit, you get the haste proc to make some distance and prolong the chase or hide depending on the situation. If the killer commits to you, thats a lot of time they're not focused on your teammates. Easily my favorite anti-tunnel perk.

Counter argument: people dont want to play competitive SBMM and run fun perks. As someone who runs Windows of Opportunity every game, live a little its a game.

As long as Wesker exist, off-the-record will never leave my build.

It's funny he mentions the shift tech for the chests now as I figured it out literally not even a week ago and was about to make a short on it myself lol

@Otzdarva I use the anti tunnel build as basically my main build and I think I can make some improvements to yours. Instead of Dead hard use sprint burst as your dead hard value can only be used once assuming you’re actually being tunneled and or camped as to where sprint burst no matter what will give you your value in distance no matter what as long as you get unhooked and just hopefully can save you your off the record hit which will most definitely come in handy later on. Ds and otr are great, also adrenaline is the way to go instead of that terrible Steve perk. All the while together: OTR DS SB and adrenaline formulating the PERFECT anti tunnel build.💦

I think the people running the chase perks are doing the opposite of what they think they accomplish. They’re typically not very good in chase, and want every advantage possible. But those advantages are best used when you’re *already* good at looping and can punish the killer. They’re not made to negate a killer chasing you. The reality is if you aren’t good at looping as a survivor, your games are never going to last long. Even with anti tunnel perks. Most killers will immediately recognize you’re the weak link, and remove you. Because even if you aren’t a nuisance in chase, you can still do gens. So they make it an insta 3v1.

me, a Survivor who's ran adrenaline, hope, and resilience for the last 3 years and only just recently added MfT to it: no, I don't think I will.

I'm quite "new" to survivor and I felt the same way running 4 chase perks: why is tunneling me so easy from the killer side, and when I'm not getting tunneled I can't do anything to help my teammate that is getting tunneled! I did not realise my build's flaws and thought the game was unbalanced towards killers until this video came out and makes alot of sense! Thanks Otz!

Otzdarva, thank you! I appreciate your information as a new player. Thank you for your commitment ❤

I would try it if teammates weren’t so fresh/inexperienced/free at the moment. It’s a shame people don’t try to get good like they do in other games

Sorry Otz, you're wrong or at the very least, misinformed. I use similair chase builds and carry my team in solo q by simply running the killers and taking slugs only to be left at the gate because as it turns out meta utility builds have zero functionality at EG

My favorite perk by far is bond. I’m sure you can find other comments under this video about how and why it’s so amazing so I’ll leave that out of this comment but it’s definitely a perk everyone should try. My build currently has consisted of bond, windows of oppo, made for this, and wglf. It’s such a fun and consistent build it’s ridiculous. Bond gives me so much info in and out of chase, windows is amazing because even though I know all the map layouts it still lets me know where I should head next and if a teammate has been dropping pallets like crazy or not, made for this doesn’t need much explanation that 3% makes such an astonishing difference it’s absurd, and wglf is so helpful against slugging and for applying a lot of pressure to the killer it’s insane. Wglf is definitely the most replaceable perk though imo. Only perk on here you really won’t get value out of every single game because you might not always go against a slugger but in those sweaty matches where you do it is a godsend of a perk. They’re are definitely other perks or even items to bring to replace it but I’m personally not a big item user and just don’t like the feel of other perks with similar designs as much as wglf.

I actually caught onto this super long ago. I ended up doing a lot of MFT, Hope, Botany and Desperate with a medkit. I feel like since I did that it did great.

I love one shot instadowns. Keep using these builds, survivors!!

I don't see how changing your build would have stopped any of these Survivors dying due to tunneling. BT can be waited out. OTR is just another hit. We'll Make It doesn't stop tunneling. These Survivors were dead either way, which is the problem with anti-tunnel perks. They just aren't effective enough to warrant replacing chase perks currently. Avoiding going down in the first place is the best anti-tunnel strategy currently, and that's best achieved with all the chase perks you can afford.

The one problem with running anti tunnel perks is that the killer will hit as you get off the hook so even off the record doesn't really help and that ds got nerfed that doesn't really help either with a full chase build it makes it so its harder for you to get hooked in the first place also the nerf to fast vaults makes using perks like made for this and resilience almost essential to make loops last instead of pre dropping every pallet

My Perksets is mostly constructed like this: - Survivor specific perk (why else should i play as that survivor?) - Exhaustion Perk (mostly Lithe, since i am used to it and i hate to crawl around for sprint boost) - Information Perk (something that gives me and/or my teammates information on what is happening, like kindred) - something i feel fancy at the moment Since i am a Jeff Main, my perks looks at the moment like this: Breakdown, Lithe, Kindred, Fogwise. I am a soloplayer, so it feels good to have information about the hooks. Does the killer camp? Who is it? Are my teammates going for the rescue or do i have to leave my gen? Also, Fogwise got added recently, it gives me an incentive to hit great skill checks and a Bootleg Object is super nice. Was running Windows for a while before that, because i came back after a long pause (about a year or so) so i dont know the loops for newer maps and such, windows helps with that.

I think that the perks are less the problem, but rather the lack of genspeed and the uncoordinated approach in the SoloQ, is the reason why games are lost.

This is definitely otz's secret way of not running into made for this/hope every match cuz its getting annoying. (hard to say I don't agree though I hate it too)

i was never running any exhaustion perks because of my vow to loop responsibly, mft came out and pushed out autodidact from my build of: any means resilience and self aware

Does Xenomorph's turret work based on terror radius, or does it just sense the Alien anyways? Just wondering if you could run a silent build with Xenomorph without the turret calling you out.

Back when dead hard was the best perk in the game, I used it with every build. When i took it off i found myself actually getting good at chases. When the safety net is taken from you, expect to see improvement over time.

No, otz. I will not stop using this build. Fast vaults are now the same speed as medium vaults for some reason and you don’t get that extra distance anymore because behavior decided it was a good idea to revert one of the only good vault updates in a while. And this is one of the only builds that allows me to have fun in chase anymore. So respectfully, no. I will continue to run it until it either gets nerfed into the ground or something else changes.

That's good, but what if i don't have this perks? Made for this was on shop recently, but all of this perks wasn't, so is there any basekit great perks instead?

I've been trying to spread out the builds more. Autodidact/Kindred are my staples, and the other two slots are filler. Recently I've done a lot of Buckle Up / For the People, or Deja Vu / Sprint Burst, or Windows of Opportunity / Open Handed, or Inner Healing / Renewal, or Inner Healing / Clairvoyance. Tbh I feel like I don't have enough chase perks / anti-tunnel in my loadouts, but I'm gonna try throwing Renewal in there soon, I like that setup. Thanks Otz :D

I don't know, I'm just not sure it's 'it' to abandon those perks currently with how horrendously nerfed/bugged vaults are atm. I love to use all my survivors and a variety of loadouts but with how bad vaulting is right now, straying away from resilience and mft feels no bueno. Even then they're barely a solution to the current problem.

I rarely ever run perks like made for this, or perks that give killers a sad time chasing you I just feel too bad, not like I'm a looping god but still not tryna make killers frustrated to hell and back. The build I usually run is: - Borrows Time - We'll Make it - Kindred - Open Handed

I don't play Dead by Daylight but I still love your videos. Could you show us what perks your running before the match starts since I don't have them all memorized?

Killers and bully squads in pub: I'm a specimen of absolute perfection. Killers and bully squads when I look up how a streamer counters them: Mmm these crayons are tasty.

There aren't any good anti-tunnelling perks anymore. OTR is easy to play around because survivors are 100% silent, 3s DS is pathetically little when factoring in the fact that you are also locked in the animation for like a second and both deactivate in end game. And I always now seem to get laggy killers which makes new DH worthless. Adrenaline is the only one I use now, and on occasion, Deliverance but then I'm always the first to be hooked! 😂

WWMI is such a strong perk and I always run it in 80% of my games. It's a life savior and I'm surprised that the perk still has this full minute of 100% healing speed at the palm of your hand.

Known as the plot armor build botany knowledge, self care, empathy, autodidact Gen operator build Overzealous, Resilience, stakeout, dej vu Double Break out Boil over, flip flop, break out,mettle of man

I'm a ~500 hours players with something like 3/4s of that on killer, and I've been running builds like this in my survivor games because I thought it would carry me, yet I have been losing more lately. I blamed it on my lack of skill on survivor, but thanks to you I'm able to better understand the weakness in my builds. Thanks Otz! Keep up the good work

No offense, but OTR is over rated, it may not do anything even if they tunnel, cuz it won't do shit if they hit you through bt, and then your dh is gone, "but just run ds to get over your mend." Congrats 3 of your perks are all to stop tunnelin that may not even happen and maybe only one of them might help slightly.

What exactly was the showcase first match only perk he used was dead hard and in the second match plot twist and miner kindred value and stating early on people who run selfish perks die first is not true and if he has evidence to disprove it then where is it. I've gone against survivors who don't run anything and they do way better then most survivors so saying selfish builds means quicker downs is false

Nice video! Hope more people will learn how to work togerher instead of solo. When we are plaing with my friends we usually split altruistic/support perk between us. Generally i recommend to split between your teams: distortion; deliverence; we will make it; unbreakable; FtP+Buckle; reasurrance. It will skyrocket your escape ratio guys :p. Btw, maybe its good idea to make video about cool/optimal team builds for SWF?

While i respect your opinion, I have been running this build since made for this came out. My looping has definitely improved to the point where i can run a killer for multiple gens in a close spot so i dont have to screw my other survivor friends. now, solo q'n i can agree to change this a bit, but with a 3 or 4 swf, as long as i communicate where i am, if my teammates come to that area and get downed, thats on them at that point. until they nerf some of these perks i will let them go, like we had to let go of dead hard, decisive strike so on so forth. keep the great work!! love the vids!!

Otzdarva never fails to disappoint with the amount of effort put into these videos!

Killer main complaining about windows of opportunity is nuts💀💀

I love using Deja Vu and Situational awareness as a combo. I prioritize avoiding a 3 gen situation while showing survivors where they can go to help/be healed

Late af but congrats on the Random perk challenge Otz!! As for the video topic itself, I've always been the tank/support in other multiplayer games so it came more naturally to me being a team player than some other players who are used to carrying/fragging out in other online games. That is, once a friend of mine linked me to your guides, Ayrun, Painreliever etc and I learned about looping, perks, killers and their powers, maps, RNG being a factor, 99ing gates, hook timers or timings in general, all that so I could help the team more effectively. Before I would've just played really stealthy and only helped where I could, but since I learned about taking agro for a death hook teammate etc it really helps. I have a theory why people run chase builds though: People are tired of holding M1 on gens and prefer to be chased, they find it more fun, for content creators it helps generate content for their RU-vid/streams etc, I even said out loud in one person's stream "they should just add a chase only mode for players like you LOL" and they chuckled, but agreed with me. :D Chases help the team but if everyone's like that in the lobby, it then becomes a one sided stomp for the killer as he doesn't need pressure to win when all survivors are off gens dicking around wanting to be chased. Even anti tunnel, it'll help sure and Renewal encourages you to heal someone, but if no-one wants to do gens that's not a build problem man, that's a survivors are bored problem. With anti camp, sure it helps the team, but again it's survivor problem, not build problem. If survivors just want to escape at any cost they'll do that man. I had that during my Adept Ripley attempt on Coal Tower, ran the Alien for last 2 gens, did the 3 survivors 99 gates and try to rescue? Fuck no!!! They just got the gates and left, despite not having Reassurance there were 3 of them to take hits for the rescue, so they still had a resource to deny camping but refused to use it. It was irritating, but I got the Adept in the end on another map so could've been worse. I see your points though Otz, and you'll get extremes on both sides, those who just care about themselves and run all chase perks, and those who'll play medic/flash light saver etc. I'm some weird hybrid of both lol, Spine Chill, Detective's Hunch, Dead Hard and Kindred. Spine is more training wheels, once I learn the spawns I can swap it off for say Deja Vu for example, help deny 3 gens. Detective's same deal, it's more training wheels to me, I can swap it off for either more self centred perks (Resilience for action speeds, I won't always have a source of healing or Vigil if I did run Sprint Burst/Lithe etc in future) or more altruistic ones like Aftercare/We'll Make it/Deliverance/Renewal etc. Dead Hard helps with tunnelling but also if no-one's going for rescue and that survivor could die, then I trade at the hook with my DH. And Kindred is just a nice heads up on who's rescuing so I know whether to drop my gen and rescue or stay put, also helps deny camping via information. The reason I'm iffy about altruistic perks, at least the healing ones is that it's time wasted healing when you could've smashed out a gen, perks like Dead Hard, Resilience, Made For This etc REWARD staying injured and then you get killers like Legion and Plague who can injure very very easily. The anti tunnel set up is cool, but as someone who doesn't mind doing gens being the timing nerd that I am :D I'll let someone else occupy that space while I push the objective forward for my team. Even 1v1s among comp players don't have a dedicated build, just Lithe/MFT and Windows so I'd rather focus on improving chase fundamentals tbh. A build would help though if I am getting tunnelled most my games despite being the support of the team who doesn't mind M1 simulator too much i.e. repairing gens. We'll see. Anti camp is great, Kindred is MANDATORY in every build I run purely because teammates are IDIOTS in solo q (not always but it can be quite messy), but the others? Hmmmm. If it happens EVERY game or most games sure but like if I get camped in last 1-2 gens or endgame I'm not too bothered especially if the killer has minimal hooks. That and I'd rather run what I find fun cheers, but I do appreciate the build information nonetheless Otz.