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Susan Jacoby on Secularism and Free Thinking 

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Journalist and historian Susan Jacoby talks with Bill about the role secularism and intellectual curiosity have played throughout America's history, a topic explored in her new book, The Great Agnostic: Robert Ingersoll and American Free Thought..
Partway through the interview, Bill presents a short clip from the documentary The Lord Is Not on Trial Here Today, the story of how Illinois mother Vashti McCollum faced down three years of "headlines, headaches and hatred" to fight for the separation of church and state in America. Her efforts resulted in a landmark 1948 Supreme Court decision that struck down religious education in the public schools.

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@Cousinsjay
@Cousinsjay 2 года назад
I love Susan. A thoughful articulate woman who frames History in a way that accurately reflects the evolution of thought. If you are ever in Beverly Hills, California, I will treat you to dinner at the best restaurant in LA.
@johngordon1175
@johngordon1175 2 года назад
Humans are imperfect beings and will extend authority over those he/she deems less than self.
@TZach1987
@TZach1987 2 года назад
As with most brilliant and thoughtful people, she wasn't wrong, just sensed the currents early. Thank you Susan for your insights.
@gotbacktofla
@gotbacktofla 7 лет назад
Yes me too and one of the more heroic people we have to look forward to learning from
@ejikeogadah565
@ejikeogadah565 8 лет назад
Just discovered Susan Jacoby. She is amazing.
@russwilson2305
@russwilson2305 6 лет назад
Read all of Susan Jacoby's books. They rule.
@EBR1
@EBR1 Год назад
We have free will, but at the same time, God has a plan for us. Right.
@cherann467
@cherann467 6 лет назад
There is a difference between "church" (religion) and real faith in God. I know many bad things happened "IN THE NAME OF GOD,", but people really trusting God would not do these things.
@LastBref
@LastBref 11 лет назад
Great episode.
@maybelikealittlebit
@maybelikealittlebit 3 года назад
I figured this out at about 8-9 years old while in a service. Why does god allow babies to be born where they’ll never be able to get in heaven? That question broke not only my indoctrinated faith, but also my pastor whom I asked and could not give me an honest answer as he never realized it with such sincerity until I a young child had asked.
@scottgrohs5940
@scottgrohs5940 3 года назад
It’s a shame you lost your faith. Mine has been modified after disputing and rejecting the Sky Daddy theology. There is no actual separate place called Hell where “sinners” go to be punished from a short time up to all eternity. Instead, those that do not live in accordance with The Spirit reincarnate endlessly. Those that do get to get off the cycle and go be in Paradise. Meanwhile this world is slowly running down- atrophying- and will eventually become Hell. But, it’s up to us and subsequent generations how quickly this happens.
@blacky93able
@blacky93able 3 года назад
“To be an atheist is to maintain God. His existence or his non-existence, it amounts to much the same, on the plane of proof.” ― Ursula K. Le Guin, The Left Hand of Darkness
@ThoughtfulThug
@ThoughtfulThug 11 лет назад
Charles Sanders Peirce was the greatest American agnostic. He may not have been a very popular "public" intellectual, but that doesn't concern me.
@tommynorthwood
@tommynorthwood 6 лет назад
I think I'm a free thinker for actually having faith in God.
@sissyrayself7508
@sissyrayself7508 6 лет назад
You actually are!
@spinozareader
@spinozareader 4 года назад
Not really.
@tommynorthwood
@tommynorthwood 4 года назад
@Jon Hinson I'm gay, and I don't force anyone to believe anything.
@TheAstraeuss
@TheAstraeuss 3 года назад
Free thinker and the word faith is a dichotomy of the highest degree. Faith is an excuse people use to believe in something when there is a lack evidence for that thing. Faith is certainly not a virtue. Faith is shutting your mind off to evidence. A free thinker is someone that is a skeptic and questions everything and proportions their belief to the evidence.
@tommynorthwood
@tommynorthwood 3 года назад
@@TheAstraeuss I have faith in love. I have faith in a multiverse, I have faith that not every fable is based on nothing, I have.. imagination.. which Einstein said was more valuable than knowledge. Are you smarter than Einstein? You could be!, because I believe in possibility. People like you say flying cars aren't real, while people like me build them;)
@williamcarter7977
@williamcarter7977 Год назад
I read the book and lived kt! He was an agnostic not an atheit. Secularism is not anti religion. Secular I'm is the ideal that protects religion from corrupt politicians and politics from corrupt clergy-theologins. It is a civil ideology. 😉
@davidralphs4
@davidralphs4 6 лет назад
Was Ingersoll pro GLBT? Undoubtedly, these people lived in the shadows during the time of Ingersoll.
@minty6347
@minty6347 2 года назад
Accurate
@MW-eg4gu
@MW-eg4gu 7 месяцев назад
Ms. Jacoby escaped American anti-intellectualism, ok, fine. But like so many Americans she ran smack into another fallacy, progressivism. Also, she should have stayed a Catholic.
@GwendolynKing-g3d
@GwendolynKing-g3d 7 дней назад
God created good and evil. Isaiah 45:7.
@sissyrayself7508
@sissyrayself7508 6 лет назад
I do not agree with her philosophy.
@freeridecarver
@freeridecarver 4 года назад
Shes spinning this her way and speaking as if the founders didnt have a god. Nature was god lol mother Gaia. Shes loves darwin i guess
@spinozareader
@spinozareader 4 года назад
Her "philosophy" is one of thinking rationally and clearly. It's what will save humankind. With what part of her "philosophy" do you not agree? I'd be curious to know the specifics.
@brendanbutler1238
@brendanbutler1238 6 лет назад
Ha ha ha, wow, "Thomas Paine put forward the astonishing idea that the Bible was actually written by man not handed down by God." Errrr The Bible itself says it is written by men. Free thinking, ye,s free from facts, free from reality.
@spinozareader
@spinozareader 4 года назад
Errr...The people who "believe" in the bible claim it's the divinely-inspired word of god. That means that you bible believers actually think that it's god's absolute word, not the word of man. If it is the word of man, then we should certainly be able to question its content. Right?
@Morningglory007
@Morningglory007 5 лет назад
Who cares if someone's an atheist. God my dear isn't responsible for the ugly deeds done by man. We have free will. Your argument for disbelief is illogical. Evil does stalk man in this world. There are ways to outrun it, but first you must recognize it, acknowledge it's existence. When the innocent are unjustly hurt, there is usually a human element responsible. There have been miraculous interventions that many have attested to. The Brillant thing to do at such a moment is to Thank God. God is Love. You only come to know this through Humility. And when this Love touches you, you are forever changed. ♡ Just thinking outloud
@ayblackie5472
@ayblackie5472 5 лет назад
Every form of cruelty and inhumanity has been commanded by the Bible. Numbers 15: 32 While the Israelites were in the wilderness, a man was found gathering wood on the Sabbath day. 33 Those who found him gathering wood brought him to Moses and Aaron and the whole assembly, 34 and they kept him in custody, because it was not clear what should be done to him. 35 Then the Lord said to Moses, “The man must die. The whole assembly must stone him outside the camp.” Luke 14: 26 “Whoever comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters, yes, and even life itself, cannot be my disciple.
@freeridecarver
@freeridecarver 4 года назад
@@ayblackie5472 you dont even undertand metaphorical speak or parables do you. You read that with no humble spiritual thinking, Athiestic veiws of the bible never surprise me
@spinozareader
@spinozareader 4 года назад
Yawn. If your god isn't omnipotent (all-powerful) and omniscient (all-knowing), he's not the god of your bible. If he IS those things...he's just a wicked, evil thing.Certainly not loving. For, even if he "gave" his subjects "free will" this makes him seem a wicked puppeteer. Because he most certainly would know, ahead of time, what any of his subjects were going to do. His failure to prevent catastrophes and ugliness makes him/her/it a very wicked power if, indeed, it does exist.
@maybelikealittlebit
@maybelikealittlebit 3 года назад
If god is real why does he allow babies to be born in places where they’ll never know Christ and will have to go hell based on not being baptized? What about women who are raped before marriage and now aren’t given the same respect because of a god given virginity gift to the man? What about people who are born in villages and have no outside contact and god allows their souls to be tortured in hell forever because he allowed them to be born there. He controls all births, maybe not what happens after but he chose to put people in places where he knew they would be burned in hell for eternity. Frankly, I’d rather believe in myself than a god who destroys the world because he isn’t being worshipped properly. Sounds like an unhinged narcissistic parent or an angry toddler more than an almighty god with compassion and love in his heart for those he created. But hey. You’ll come up with a reason to justify that I’m sure. Just goes to show how deeply indoctrinated you are. I was raised catholic and I will never believe you can repeatedly confess a horrific power abusing sin and yet still be allowed into heaven. I’d rather go to hell than be in a heaven full of eggshells and rules. And if heaven is a free for all, what’s the point of a god anyways if you’re just going up there to do all the bad you didn’t get to do down here? Honestly.... the most contrived stories ever have taken over the globe and create such unrest between humans it’s quite a tragedy we only have ourselves to blame. I figured this out at about 8-9 years old while in a service. Why does god allow babies to be born where they’ll never be able to get in heaven? That question broke not only my indoctrinated faith, but also my pastor whom I asked and could not give me an honest answer as he never realized it with such sincerity until I a young child had asked.
@maybelikealittlebit
@maybelikealittlebit 3 года назад
I figured this out at about 8-9 years old while in a service. Why does god allow babies to be born where they’ll never be able to get in heaven? That question broke not only my indoctrinated faith, but also my pastor whom I asked and could not give me an honest answer as he never realized it with such sincerity until I a young child had asked.
@steveradanovich4962
@steveradanovich4962 2 года назад
Agnostic intellectual? That is a oxymoron with a capital "O".
@hankgoodwin202
@hankgoodwin202 3 года назад
People should seek God/jesus
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