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The "Dumbing Down" of America - Susan Jacoby | The Open Mind 

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@joea363
@joea363 4 года назад
And the dumbing down has only accelerated since this show was recorded.
@UnschoolingCOM
@UnschoolingCOM 4 года назад
Unschooling.com
@magnuscritikaleak5045
@magnuscritikaleak5045 4 года назад
@@UnschoolingCOM Unschooling will become illegal in the future after the political tyrants and our Narcissistic Elitist University overlords WANTS no More human nurturing.
@duantorruellas716
@duantorruellas716 3 года назад
Yup
@ciro9951
@ciro9951 3 года назад
@Maya I used to think people like you were crazy but after reading a lot and watching the events unfold back in 2020 I’m sure you’re right
@Obeijin
@Obeijin 3 года назад
2021 ...
@zoperxplex
@zoperxplex 4 года назад
Boy is this topic so relevant today.
@ageofechochambers9469
@ageofechochambers9469 2 года назад
Isn't it
@trevorbrown9882
@trevorbrown9882 2 года назад
Especially when people think the United States is a democracy.
@yprimrose
@yprimrose Год назад
This video was spot on about what's happening now. Our children are at risk because they are losing their critical thinking skills. However, did my generation and the one before, really use our critical thinking skills? I love that that she brought out that most people don't read any type of book. If with them being available in digital formats now still they don't read. I agree that the web is good, but you need to know what to ask to get the answer you seek. Getting an update on this subject based on today's current atmosphere would be great.
@user-qp2xy5zs7r
@user-qp2xy5zs7r 8 месяцев назад
The school educational system was based on teaching and training from the school system of the industrial revolution, don't worry there is still college and universities.."higher education"
@elliottyeomans654
@elliottyeomans654 5 месяцев назад
Have you witnessed the standard of written material, how could anybody be condemned for not reading such trash as popular garbage producing "authors" produce?
@jasonf4626
@jasonf4626 Год назад
This video aged incredibly well. Like wine 🍷 And that’s not a good thing
@funkyplaya
@funkyplaya 3 года назад
"I don't want to think about the creation of a form of politics that would be as dumb as we have become so far." It didn't even take a decade, and it seems to be getting worse and worse by the year. Whether Trump sits in office for another 4 years or Biden-Harris take control, either way it's a disaster.
@kewlmark72
@kewlmark72 3 года назад
I didnt really see it coming with trump. I thought the economy was good with trump until the Pandemic was Brought in...
@johnmudrak2665
@johnmudrak2665 3 года назад
Hmm! It is sad that America is so far down the list in Education with the countries of the world. But, America is my home and I love. I am a History buff. My father came to America November 29th, 1949. He came here from the Ukraine. He told me he never wanted to return to the Ukraine even for a visit.. It surprises me how many Americans complain about America. Especially those whom have never lived in other countries, or spends time viewing the struggles in other countries around the world... Sad.
@blackcitroenlove
@blackcitroenlove 2 года назад
@@johnmudrak2665 a history buff is not a historian, and Ukraine has changed exponentially since your father left. It sounds as though you haven't lived anywhere but the US.
@marklevan6546
@marklevan6546 2 года назад
It’s a bureaucratic monstrosity.
@marklevan6546
@marklevan6546 2 года назад
@@blackcitroenlove The issue is the US leaning into a socialist maelstrom from which his father escaped from. His dad would be seeing the seeds of a totalitarian state being implemented. Always listen to your elders. They’ve been there.
@davidbishop456
@davidbishop456 4 года назад
ignorence has become a human right.
@jaywalker712
@jaywalker712 4 года назад
I grew up in the South in 50's and 60's and watched as schools were intergrated , it was so sad how bad the black schools were and how far behind the students were. The government wanted everyone brought to par quick and the solution was to create the "curve" to grade. To equal out the class teachers held back some kids to try and promote other children to catch up. This only turned out a whole class of slower kids and a generation of kids that thought it was cool to be non-learners . Respect for teachers started going down and schools lost a lot of good teachers and replacements just wanted to draw a check and get by.
@duantorruellas716
@duantorruellas716 3 года назад
That's deep
@golldern3577
@golldern3577 3 года назад
David Bishop, you mespelled ignorance.
@reprogrammingmind
@reprogrammingmind 3 года назад
@@golldern3577 you misspelled 'mespelled'.
@Cantbuyathrill
@Cantbuyathrill 3 года назад
Yoo are raight! Ignorence is a humon reight! I hate entilekchuals and alitist snubs! Long live Joe The Plummer......Hee Hawwww!!!
@brileyvandyke5792
@brileyvandyke5792 3 года назад
When you speak to some people you discover apathy and sarcasm towards their ignorance is rife. They are quick with laughing or clapping back, but never towards introspection.
@ernestgordon6533
@ernestgordon6533 3 года назад
The statements conveyed by this fine woman, paints an clear picture of the world we are inhabiting today. We must continue the fight against the technocrats peeps!
@jb34ch1
@jb34ch1 2 года назад
The wealthy can easily organize. We cannot because we are too busy bickering over a culture war that they created.
@elijahhernandez906
@elijahhernandez906 2 года назад
Technocrates?
@chuckdavis1323
@chuckdavis1323 7 месяцев назад
Mostly America not the world
@nickieglazer33
@nickieglazer33 7 месяцев назад
​​@@chuckdavis1323 Yes, the world. The majority have never even heard the term Globalist technocracy or aware of the cult of 'Scientism'. Tell-a-vision Programming has done it's job on engineering/hacking the human mind and consciousness. The likes of Edward Bernays (Propaganda) and Julian Huxley (Transhumanism) would be impressed. Regards from a British woman living in Spain.
@o0o-jd-o0o95
@o0o-jd-o0o95 Год назад
If ever you're feeling dumb just remember there are people out there that believe there's an ocean called the specific Ocean
@kellysnider6620
@kellysnider6620 Год назад
😂😂😂😂😂
@Davide-hj6xk
@Davide-hj6xk 5 месяцев назад
“We live in the age of the overworked, and the under-educated; the age in which people are so industrious that they become absolutely stupid.” Oscar Wilde
@dancopeful
@dancopeful 4 года назад
Anyone who thinks politics has any real power has been dumbed down.
@jesuschristislord7754
@jesuschristislord7754 3 года назад
$tatism™️/$cientism™️ is the religion of Kali-Yuga.
@kuribojim3916
@kuribojim3916 2 года назад
I'm not sure what you mean. Politics remains the source of a great deal of power.
@ModernHistory1
@ModernHistory1 2 года назад
@@kuribojim3916 Well if your talking about Government politics not really, Politics as a whole though is obviously the only way to play for power, but the US government and western governments are just put there to take orders from the actual decision makers while they get a handsome amount of money, alot of the petty crap the two parties throw at each other is in my opinion just for show, the US has been hijacked, its gone.
@tanyalake9152
@tanyalake9152 6 месяцев назад
So many "adults" are still brainwashed, through made up christianity, to forget what/where/who we humans came from. So-called politics also comes from so-called christianity, which European males made up centuries ago. Humans have lost their true identity/mindset, and aren't getting better. Smdh!
@kicknadeadcat
@kicknadeadcat 4 года назад
Carl Sagan I have a foreboding of an America in my children's or grandchildren's time -- when the United States is a service and information economy; when nearly all the manufacturing industries have slipped away to other countries; when awesome technological powers are in the hands of a very few, and no one representing the public interest can even grasp the issues; when the people have lost the ability to set their own agendas or knowledgeably question those in authority; when, clutching our crystals and nervously consulting our horoscopes, our critical faculties in decline, unable to distinguish between what feels good and what's true, we slide, almost without noticing, back into superstition and darkness... The dumbing down of America is most evident in the slow decay of substantive content in the enormously influential media, the 30 second sound bites (now down to 10 seconds or less), lowest common denominator programming, credulous presentations on pseudoscience and superstition, but especially a kind of celebration of ignorance.
@kicknadeadcat
@kicknadeadcat 4 года назад
@Julia A Sagan talked about the dumbing down of America. But I believe it's always been this way.
@DODSON937
@DODSON937 4 года назад
@@kicknadeadcat De Toqueville noticed something similar back in the early 19th century. He said American culture values simple mindedness as a means of preserving political and social equality.
@DODSON937
@DODSON937 4 года назад
@kiRskyfall09 Nice.
@kuribojim3916
@kuribojim3916 2 года назад
I think that quote is right except for the bit about a service and information economy. That part is a non-sequitur and has nothing to do with the important (and I think, true) subsequent points.
@susanford2388
@susanford2388 2 года назад
Ok manufacturing has been slipping away since China came out of Maoism. & offered cheap products & cheap production. Pay less for the same product. Industrialized countries could not compete. We are not prepared to pay more in wages ergo more for products.
@fcontitwo
@fcontitwo 4 года назад
🎭 “Amusing ourselves to death” !!!🤪
@goofynigga8456
@goofynigga8456 3 года назад
It crazy I read the book after tht I completely stop watching t.v begin reading. I can see the results instantly. Tht books itself should be mandatory read.
@tegridyfarms3166
@tegridyfarms3166 3 года назад
@@goofynigga8456 What book was it? What results were you seeing?
@goofynigga8456
@goofynigga8456 3 года назад
@@tegridyfarms3166 the name of the book is neil postman amusing ourselves to death. This book is a eye opener. Another thing it a short read 2. Tht book came out I believe in the 80's ,but it speak in the current position as a nation and technology. U should check it out like I said it a short read.
@tegridyfarms3166
@tegridyfarms3166 3 года назад
@@goofynigga8456 Thank you for the response 😌
@matthewbarber4505
@matthewbarber4505 2 года назад
The example of how calculators effect math skills is spot on. I saw this a lot as an undergraduate engineering student when a lot of my peers would just "plug and chug" without any real understanding of the problem they were working on and what kind of solution one should expect to get. Our professors went so far as to try and teach "reasonableness checks," where you compare your calculations to a ballpark estimate of what the answer should be. If your calculator is way off from your ballpark estimate, it was usually because of an error
@therustedmonkie4787
@therustedmonkie4787 2 года назад
Holy shit. I dropped out of my calculus class in High School because the teacher didn't teach us to understand the equations. She only taught us to just "plug and chug." I hated it. I grew so apathetic towards the class I just failed it on purpose.
@Musicienne-DAB1995
@Musicienne-DAB1995 Год назад
That's shocking, for an engineering degree.
@Musicienne-DAB1995
@Musicienne-DAB1995 Год назад
@@therustedmonkie4787 How did such a woman qualify as a teacher?
@therustedmonkie4787
@therustedmonkie4787 Год назад
@@Musicienne-DAB1995 I was in High School. Calculus was an elective, it didn't affect me at all for the most part. She's a nice teacher, just that method of teaching was very, very boring. Most people in class didn't bother memorizing the equations. She let us keep cheat sheets essentially.
@PricklyPickle777
@PricklyPickle777 5 месяцев назад
​@@Musicienne-DAB1995it wasn't the Engineering degree that was the problem, it was students that didn't understand maths. Sounds like the professors hat to teach them estimation skills. I experienced this in my first year of university in a science degree. Many of the students couldn't figure out a simple reaction rate manually without using a graphics calculator, and virtually had breakdowns when told by the tutor they needed to learn how to do this without the graphics calculator because they wouldn't have calculators in the exam. Our school curriculum stated not usong graphics calculators in final exams yet seems the teachers were letting them use them. By the way - this chemistry exam at uni was a multiple choice exam. They threw fits because they didn't know how to put read a graph or do simple calculations without typing typing equations into the calculator to solve for x. BTW - it was a linear equation, not even a quadratic! Straight line! Couldn't solve for X!
@chrislong3938
@chrislong3938 Год назад
She is clearly thoughtful about this problem and I'd love to hear her thoughts on it today! So much has changed since this interview! How she feels about all the -isms would be fascinating! Her politics are left, but it would be telling to see how left! Personally, I'm center-right and I wonder if she's center-left!
@donhuber9131
@donhuber9131 Год назад
She is delightfully far left, in my opinion. She labels herself a liberal, but I would define her as a leftist. She is far too anti-corporate to be termed a liberal, I feel. Many liberals believe in corporate personhood, endless wars, rationalize authoritarian governments. Ms. Jacoby does none of these.
@mtnwriter4011
@mtnwriter4011 3 года назад
She is (still) right on. It's an important book - prescient and more relevant now than in 2008. I wish she had anticipated the cell-phone "pandemic" too -- everyone looking down into little boxes. Talk about worshipping a new techno-deity - appealing to it for direction, diversion, pleasure, and escape at every waking moment. Just just at the kids today. It's worse than their dependency on calculators to do math.
@ethanfleisher1910
@ethanfleisher1910 4 года назад
I would love to hear her opinion on the likes of Trump and AOC today... and the endless infotainment loop which we are all so addicted to.
@rolon-ew5kl
@rolon-ew5kl 3 года назад
RU-vid at least I learn things correctly no mainstream fear monger from it. I like watching educational stuff on RU-vid. Schools stifled creativity, and individualism now unless you study something requires creativity. I could teach myself stuff and learn stuff on RU-vid better and easier. School nowadays is becoming a waste now.
@jesuschristislord7754
@jesuschristislord7754 3 года назад
Trump is a mahatma compared to AOC.
@billjenkins1535
@billjenkins1535 2 года назад
I suspect she would say " Trump bad, mommy". "AOC, good mommy." 10 bucks she voted Biden.
@tanyalake9152
@tanyalake9152 8 месяцев назад
You're the same one's who are still dumbed do in so many ways and still don't/won't realize it. Smdfh.
@BreckoniousMaximus
@BreckoniousMaximus 3 года назад
I love this woman! Too bad she held back when asked how our future looks. It seems as if Americans are afraid to be too negative or accept the reality our failures and inevitable collapse. People can think positive thoughts all they want and only focus on the few "good" things, but it won't change anything. For this is the reason we are doomed. The reality is our society, Nation, and Economy has already collapsed. We are simply going through what is called post mortem movements.
@darrenthomas1000
@darrenthomas1000 2 года назад
So we’ll said! Just in days of civilizations past there were citizens that knew the collapse had already happened…. We are just riding it out now. Even more so with the pandemic now China will no longer need to use military action when they can tax everything that we purchase from them alone and destroy us even more.
@badomaji
@badomaji 2 года назад
This ‘positivity’ theme running through our culture presently is corporate-fueled marketing aimed at lowering popular expression of the despair most in this country feel about their present, and prospects for their future.
@quenton3145
@quenton3145 2 года назад
Spot my friend, spoken like an absolutely intelligent individual.
@Smiley_Face0
@Smiley_Face0 Год назад
Yeah social collapse is reality, many will probably die because they didn't prepared for it
@donhuber9131
@donhuber9131 Год назад
Two words come to mind: failed state.
@paulaharrisbaca4851
@paulaharrisbaca4851 3 года назад
Btw, if the mom is educated the baby hears all the stuff mom listens to, reads aloud, the words she says, the stuff she watches, etc...the voices of the people she hangs around with, so if they swear and yell, the infant will be born feeling comfortable with that environment.
@Smiley_Face0
@Smiley_Face0 Год назад
You're very correct with that and I wish more people would learn about this...I guess you mistyped and meant uncomfortable at the end
@Cantbuyathrill
@Cantbuyathrill 3 года назад
She has my undivided attention.....and respect!!!!
@talache7
@talache7 2 года назад
Did you hear what she said at minute 5:20? I wonder what her thoughts are right now. I rather have someone with an inability to speak a decent English sentence but knows how to lead, than someone who is “highly educated” and only knows how to give word salads but runs a country and it’s citizens to ruins. 😏 By the way, I can tell you from experience that not being able to speak decent English does not equate to someone being dumb. This is something bilingual people can fully understand.
@hydrolito
@hydrolito 4 года назад
Over dependence on technology has some dangers.
@omalone1169
@omalone1169 4 года назад
Technology's false promise 23:00 the death of memory reading and thinking
@veronicaancrum4871
@veronicaancrum4871 2 года назад
Why does the host and the guest play this game ad if the American public actually elect the presidential candidate. The masses only vote for what the elites select as possible candidates.
@dennismurphy9957
@dennismurphy9957 3 года назад
Dumbing Down was around long before George W. 38 years ago I attended a US community college. The teachers' habit was to say everything twice. If said thrice, you knew it would be on the test. I sat at the back of the class, read books and had an 'A' average. I was 23 and had spent a few years in Europe. My classmates were straight out of high school. I dropped the Journalism class when the teacher admitted he couldn't teach the students journalism until he'd taught them the basic English they had never learned. No wonder the college was referred to as a "high school with ashtrays".
@eliza1826
@eliza1826 2 года назад
At least when history was taught, they were taught to dig deep within reason and one of the strategy was teaching students how conspiracy exists within all nations and wars up until around 1900s, around the time they stopped using that technique in politics and history class. Fast forward to 1950s, they diagnosed those who dared to question certian events, as schizophrenic.
@tanyalake9152
@tanyalake9152 8 месяцев назад
​@@eliza1826Lies. They hated their/our African, black/Brown, atheist, non political, sane, realistic, smart, loving, inclusive, creative, critical/free thinking, earth protective, ancestors.
@hydrolito
@hydrolito 4 года назад
Kids should spend more time playing and learning out doors.
@omalone1169
@omalone1169 4 года назад
20:00 unless bombs are in our faces we do not remember or realise “If the nation’s policies towards blacks were revised to require weekly, random round-ups of several hundred blacks who were then taken to a secluded place and shot, that policy would be more dramatic, but hardly different in result, than the policies now in effect, which most of us feel powerless to change.”
@khoury7956
@khoury7956 4 года назад
richt!
@omalone1169
@omalone1169 4 года назад
@@khoury7956 "Women think that all men are the same, and this is their strength; men think that alll women are different - it destroys them." GOMEZ de la SERNA Take the red pill
@khoury7956
@khoury7956 4 года назад
@@omalone1169 I said _right_ to the OP. What did you understand?
@omalone1169
@omalone1169 4 года назад
@Julia A you forgot to mention they need to connect with global affairs like Latin Amerika ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-jQ92uFLC7YM.html
@TZach1987
@TZach1987 2 года назад
13 years later and SPOT. ON.
@hydrolito
@hydrolito 4 года назад
We aren't number one in life span, Math, reading, we have a high obesity rate, etc.
@jesuschristislord7754
@jesuschristislord7754 3 года назад
W R Dumber One!
@HighlanderNorth1
@HighlanderNorth1 3 года назад
👺😈👹 Blue state democrats(and their teacher's union lackeys) have done a bang up job of dumbing down their citizenry, while also promoting a blind obedience in authoritarian govt leaders in modern day leftists. California is now ranked at the bottom of education.
@mercuryrising2424
@mercuryrising2424 3 года назад
Our high obesity rate isn't necessarily the result of being dumb. Our food is GMO and full of chemicals which is the main cause of this.
@marklevan6546
@marklevan6546 2 года назад
@@mercuryrising2424 Every sector of citizens are corrupted. Even farmers. It’s all about the big bucks. And subsidies to land barons.
@AxmedBahjad
@AxmedBahjad Год назад
I would challenge Susan to spell out what she means when she says: "well-educated!" Who defines it? To be well-educated, what one must know? And isn't it important to know languages and literatures outside of Europeans such as African or Asian or Native American/s?
@onetwo19
@onetwo19 4 года назад
I knew when she said she is a democrat that she would completely ignore the dumbing down in indoctrinating colleges/universities.
@eddygtube
@eddygtube 4 года назад
@Johnny Lariat Because he willingly ignores the message because the messenger isn't a republican. That is exactly what dumbing down culture is about: ignore facts because it makes you uncomfortable, keep inside your safe space.
@nunisthathigh4825
@nunisthathigh4825 4 года назад
@@eddygtube It's also a lot of human nature, people tend to close their minds out to anything that breaks outside their narrowly defined world, their "comfort-zone." Look at you tube videos themselves, they all have the option to flag a video (snitch, tattle-tale like a goddamn whiny kindergarten child to Vevo) whenever said person finds said video clip too controversial for their tastes. This is more to do with what people do (society) than a company. Even while I blog this comment, large aspects of society will consider me "trolling" merely for daring to say something, anything that's...outside the comfort-zone. Society doesn't value courage, they don't value intelligence. America has become "land of the cowardly retards." But only because they were granted a pass to be honest about that, there's nothing new under the sun. The more things change the more they stay the same.
@sahil98031
@sahil98031 4 года назад
@@nunisthathigh4825 well said bro this is why I have no blind loyalty to anything
@nunisthathigh4825
@nunisthathigh4825 4 года назад
@@sahil98031 cool, I agree with that
@michaelduffey5518
@michaelduffey5518 3 года назад
Democrats today and Republicans today are nothing like 50 years ago.
@shiningstar8757
@shiningstar8757 3 года назад
What a wonderful conversation.. Susan Jacoby is brilliant, one of a kind open mind thinker.. Internet and computer is just a tool Without human intelligence who are interacting with it, it's useless..
@donaldlamendola8294
@donaldlamendola8294 3 года назад
Eloquently stated, and verified my own thoughts. Great post. Kind Regards, Donny
@ruralcounsel
@ruralcounsel 3 года назад
Glad you enjoy the echo chamber.
@susanford2388
@susanford2388 2 года назад
We were all taught to show our workings out in math. Even if we get the right answer we have to show how we got there.
@alwayscheckthisstuff494
@alwayscheckthisstuff494 2 года назад
"And now the leftists, education elites/leadership, Biden-o-philes are trying to get rid of that because its (racist/oppressive/" - that was the response i intended to write... but then i thought about it.. what does it say when the Educators/ NEA themselves are actively trying to discourage processes that exercise the mental capability to understand and think through things/m use higher thought processes... hmmm
@ijustwanttocommentfugoogle3839
We are not only NOT teaching our children properly, but we are also now importing low IQ poor people. No country can succeed doing that, and it can't be happening by accident (it is an intentional)!
@russellmillar7132
@russellmillar7132 3 года назад
Really? When did Immigration start administering IQ tests ? Please share where you came by this info. Or are you just a bigot? Trump said they were bad people, you're saying they're poor and stupid--I hope no children are listening to you!
@markod1719
@markod1719 3 года назад
Every serious country has to have its own poor people it can exploit. It helps if they are uninformed.
@mandyc3824
@mandyc3824 3 года назад
Really? Statistics please. Actually immigrants (specifically migrant women from the Caribbean) are the most educated demographic in the country. I earned my law degree when I was 21. Moreover, all of my friends and associates have at least a four year degree, and everyone in my family has a graduate degree. So bugger off bigot.
@ChefClary60
@ChefClary60 2 года назад
Further reading; Charolette Iserbyt and Norman Dodd interview.
@Cantbuyathrill
@Cantbuyathrill 3 года назад
We're dumbed....I mean damned....I mean doomed.
@robertoampudia1028
@robertoampudia1028 4 года назад
Quite revealing information.
@californiacavemandastardly6538
@californiacavemandastardly6538 3 года назад
And in 2021 we now have Joe Biden who can barely talk....lol...we're fuked!
@kaylasherman6044
@kaylasherman6044 5 лет назад
She is so right! If I point out in a current movie how they were basing some of it on the space time continuum based on Einstein theory....or some of the theories brought in to play in Avatar or even state that “Allah is not the name of the Muslim God word is Aramaic for God and so on people can not handle conversations that go much beyond a 5 th grade level with an emotional IQ of middle school kid.
@markod1719
@markod1719 3 года назад
Had your ancestors stayed in Afrika, they would want to come to Europe. Maybe you would drown in mediterranean or you would be luckier and work in some sweat shop in Italy, or maybe "gardening" somewhere in Spain. And here you are bitching about your founding fathers. Such ingratitude...
@mandyc3824
@mandyc3824 3 года назад
@@markod1719 You just proved Kayla’s point, imbecile…
@markod1719
@markod1719 3 года назад
@@mandyc3824 u2
@Moribus_Artibus
@Moribus_Artibus 3 года назад
Folks, just look at the entertainment industry and the fast food industry. They are immense influences
@deenababie
@deenababie Год назад
I try hard not to look at anyone in the entertainment industry. Turn that garbage off. Same for fast food. Can’t recall the last time I indulged. I’m not the norm tho. I’ve not had a telli in over 12 years.
@Musicienne-DAB1995
@Musicienne-DAB1995 Год назад
@@deenababie Yes: I still fall into the trap of following entertainment news and getting worked up over that nonsense.
@JenniferCocker
@JenniferCocker 3 года назад
This lost me when it started with Trump bashing. Talk about dumbing down society.
@wyattbrowningsmith6433
@wyattbrowningsmith6433 3 года назад
I have a sudden urge to brush my teeth.
@duantorruellas716
@duantorruellas716 3 года назад
It's pretty ironic , we are reading more now as a nation because of the internet. We're reading all day , prompts we have to read , emails , text , Google , Wikipedia , we all read all day. Before the web we only had hard books , magazines , newspapers etc. But I think what Susan means is it's not how much we read now as opposed to then , but it's what kind of material we're reading. Maybe she means we don't read litature , due to the amount of time we're reading all the things I listed above that are app related. I believe we are getting dumb as a nation and world perhaps , but not because of just the lack of good litature , But because of the crap we are reading online that is crap and also the media's constant flow of garbage into the minds of the populist. Without a reference to compare it to , or at least good common sense. It's like the song from wolf parade , " I'll believe in anything ". What also makes us dumb is the isolation people practice these in the cities , and with covid now , it's not helping. When people stay away from other people , or people who are intelligent , they suffer from not having the rational truth of their contemporaries . Covid 19 was a proponent of this suffering that left us at the mercy of the media , and knowing the media's bullshyte it was and still is very unnerving. And to be in a place with ignorant people all sitting around exchanging false information or ignorant opinion is screwed up. So knowing what to read like Susan said , is just as important as who you discuss the information with as for as I'm concerned. Because like morphius said , most of these people don't want to be unplugged from the matrix.
@kuribojim3916
@kuribojim3916 2 года назад
I think you are right. Also, look at the explosion of ridiculous conspiracy theories and magical thinking. This, to me, is an obvious example of what Jacoby was talking about, when she said that people "find what they look for". Having access to text and video doesn't mean you're accessing knowledge or insight. Quite often, folks are accessing the equivalent of sugary treats that given them a dopamine hit but that are ultimately rotting their brains.
@andybrown6981
@andybrown6981 2 года назад
When was last time you read a novel?
@duantorruellas716
@duantorruellas716 2 года назад
@Fed Up thank you my friend , I'm glad someone understands. 👍
@duantorruellas716
@duantorruellas716 2 года назад
@@andybrown6981 the last one I read was a novel by Elizabeth Haich called , Initiation . I don't really like contemporary fiction. But this is a work of fiction , and a good one I might add. But the greek classics are good in my opinion. Your question should have been phrased , " What was the last novel you've read? " . This makes you sound like you're interested in what might be worth reading or what I considered good. But when you say , " When was the last time you read a novel? " , hints at the fact that you think I haven't read one in a very long time . And this could make one sound like a twit.
@duantorruellas716
@duantorruellas716 2 года назад
I could put up with dumb people but , from me twits get no quarter.
@randomdude571
@randomdude571 3 дня назад
I'm proud to say that in 2024, we have acknowledged this problem and solved it...
@digitalworms
@digitalworms 7 месяцев назад
Mike Judge was right! Idiocracy is our future!
@KatyYoder-cq1kc
@KatyYoder-cq1kc 18 дней назад
Shut down Tik Tok and social media sites for children under 16
@fcontitwo
@fcontitwo 4 года назад
🔥🔥 Dumbing them down- makes them “most controllable” !!!🔥🔥#ButTheTruthShallSetYouFree!!!
@tyleshiaporter7266
@tyleshiaporter7266 4 года назад
Who is the person on your profile
@fcontitwo
@fcontitwo 3 года назад
@@tyleshiaporter7266 , thats my dumb ‘ass’ Auntie .
@joeyGalileoHotto
@joeyGalileoHotto 2 года назад
That is Maxine Waters
@KatyYoder-cq1kc
@KatyYoder-cq1kc 18 дней назад
Correct
@darthvader5300
@darthvader5300 5 лет назад
START TEACHING THE BASICS! Basic science, basic math, basic physics, basic biology, basic astronomy, basic speech, basic reading, basic cursive writing, basic arithmetic, basic civics, basic history, basic chemistry, basic latin language, use phonics, use the Montessori system, make it mandatory for them to read the old "PRINTED IN ON PAPER" textbooks of the early 90s going way back to 1900 such as dictionaries, thesauruses, encyclopedias, conversion math tables and formulas on weights and lenghts and areas of shapes, calendars, abacus, soroban mathematics, etc, "THE WORKS!" Avoid computers, tablets, e-books, and others which can be manipulated for dumbing down-brainwashing-evil indoctrination by liberalism/leftism, etc. TEACH DO NOT BRAINWASH, EDUCATE DO NOT INDOCTRINATE. Use the Classical system of education called as "CLASSICAL EDUCATION". Stop the feminization of education against your young boys and men that indiscriminates against them and not in favor of them and discourages them from learning, separate the males from the females, and only allow them to be together during recess, lunch, and after classes. Originally public education is all 100% PRIVATELY OWNED AND CONTROLLED BY LOCAL COMMUNITIES, TOWNS, COUNTIES, AND COUNTIES IN BIG CITIES. All original colleges and universities were all smaller and owned and controlled by the local towns, local communities, local counties, and local counties inside big cities. All educational institutions were LOCALLY financed and supported by he local towns, local communities, local counties, and local counties inside big cities. PARENTS, NOT TEACHERS, ARE IN CONTROL OF ALL INSTITUTIONS OF EDUCATION IN 1800 TO 1900 UP TO THE 1920s, Parents are the final decision makers on which teachers to hire AND FIRE! The same policies goes to the local libraries and librarians also. There were no teacher unions, no corporate control, NO ILLEGAL DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION WHICH SHOULD NEVER BE ALLOWED TO EXIST IN THE FIRST PLACE! Everything is 100% locally controlled by Christian parents only and by following the CHRISTIAN-BASED U.S CONSTITUTION OF THE REPUBLIC OF AMERICA OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA IN ACCORDANCE OF THE 6TH AMENDMENT! In the past early 1980s and throughout the entire past decades of the 1970s, 1960s, 1950s, 1940s, 1930s down to 1900 and below it, the average American home has one room which is 2 times to 3 times as large as the largest room and it is a printed book based-library adjacent to a library-study room, library-workshop room, and library-office room. But as the 1980s starts to go forward you cans still see each bedroom having several library bookshelves and a study room section, but by the 1990s they started to gradually disappear until you can only find one bookshelf or a cabinet converted to a bookshelf, and now according to several friends who went to visit their relatives in America, they rarely find the average family having a dictionary! The housing sector even conspire to encourage the dumbing down of the average American family by gradually, over the decades and years, eliminate the printed book based-library adjacent to a library-study room, library-workshop room, and library-office room and the only room which is the largest is the television entertainment room! So how the heck can you stop and reverse the dumbing down of Americans when even the infrastructure design of their houses are even designed to dumb them down? There is no such thing as too much learning for our ancestors knows too well that we need to learn all that needs to be learned or we won't be here or be living the life that we are living in right now. But there is such as thing as ignorance which can kill anyone or everybody if we ignore the dangers of ignorance.
@darthvader5300
@darthvader5300 5 лет назад
Those subjects are included in my list also, although I did not specifically wrote them down in my comments but it is in my microfilm archives. These subjects are of the numerous bodies of knowledge given to us by the Greeks. Unfortunate that the Ionian Greek Colonies were destroyed because they are at a stage of laying down the very first foundation of modern civilization. According to many historians and archeologists and scientists, if the Ionian Greek Colonies were not destroyed, then our 1st Apollo program would had been launched in the 12th Century and not in the 20th Century.
@PBrown-jf5or
@PBrown-jf5or 5 лет назад
Montessori system is part of the problem.
@azsunburns
@azsunburns 3 года назад
Search for the Jones Plantation by Larken Rose
@doesntmatter2505
@doesntmatter2505 4 года назад
I’m in education and sadly I feel like this is def happening. It’s also happening in the family. More uneducated people are procreating and raising more uneducated children. And the distraction of the family is more and more common. Sad to watch
@adamcaldwell2517
@adamcaldwell2517 3 года назад
The problem we face today is that most of education has metastasized into a religion. Where fear & Crisis based indoctrination develops identity crisis, victim identity, Guilt & Anti Christian Anti American or Anti Home Country Ideology while also being Anti Capitalism Anti Profit while having not a clue about Tax codes or currency. Can you imagine that nearly every grad master degree student has no clue that Governemnt will be their largest financial burden in life? The cost of Government isn't even in their top 10 list.. You know why? Governemnt developed education curriculum.. FOREIGN Influence over our education system since the 70s has taken a toll. But this radicalization of education in 2009 had destroyed this countries future
@tegridyfarms3166
@tegridyfarms3166 3 года назад
@@adamcaldwell2517 Radicalization of education?
@adamcaldwell2517
@adamcaldwell2517 3 года назад
@@tegridyfarms3166 Yes. Ideological development focus and less and less focus on academia. Hence the dramatic dose drive in global ranking sense the inception of the US department of Education in 1979. Yes Radicalization from fear & crisis faith based conditioning. I realize most teachers didn't catch what was happening.
@tegridyfarms3166
@tegridyfarms3166 3 года назад
@@adamcaldwell2517 thank you for the response!
@marklevan6546
@marklevan6546 3 года назад
Do you ever consider that you may also be part of the problem? In education, or in indoctrination? What do we already have?
@commercialrealestatephilos605
@commercialrealestatephilos605 2 года назад
Look no further than to the definition of inflation in schools. “The increase in the price of goods and services.” Not the true definition: “an increase in the currency supply.” Information is not wisdom.
@chuckdavis1323
@chuckdavis1323 7 месяцев назад
I totally agree with her.
@trikayatranslationservices9434
@trikayatranslationservices9434 4 года назад
Hillary Clinton is considered intelligent by these people? Lol That's the problem right there.
@ericlind6581
@ericlind6581 4 года назад
Erick Tsiknopoulos Hilary’s problem wasn’t her intellect. She’s actually reasonable smart.
@trikayatranslationservices9434
@trikayatranslationservices9434 4 года назад
Right. But that totally depends on who she's being compared to. These people speak as if she's a great intellectual or something.
@ericlind6581
@ericlind6581 4 года назад
Erick Tsiknopoulos true point. I would say compared to the “average” American she was quite smart. But she had an integrity issue, not an intellectual one.
@trikayatranslationservices9434
@trikayatranslationservices9434 4 года назад
Why does RU-vid keep erasing my comments
@ModernHistory1
@ModernHistory1 2 года назад
@@trikayatranslationservices9434 They Shadow remove comments using an automated system because they dont want people to have critical discussions, I'm serious, I even make sure I don't swear or anything, they probably use a flagging system to automatically remove it, I would have very civilised debates about the Syrian Civil War, all my responses would get removed, even if its about a historical event aswell, I have to paste my comments in a word doc before I post them now.
@nspacemonkey
@nspacemonkey 4 года назад
The 25 years today protesting/ chaining themseves to bridges.. The generationbought up on "Teletubbies" have you seen their vocabulary? This is no mistake.
@mr.r2362
@mr.r2362 2 года назад
The generation isolated in peer-ran, collectivist zoo-like government compounds (we call public schools)and raised by TV, games and pornography, so their selfish, narcissistic parents can fornicate at night clubs and focus on their careers instead of actually being parents and good citizens. People dont change. We act surprised at the monsters we created and neglected. Most people are idiots, and deserve their enslavement and disrespect from their kids; its the consequences of our cowardice and irresponsibility.
@terrybrownell5217
@terrybrownell5217 3 года назад
"For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called: But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty; And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are" 1 Corinthians 1:26
@hornet6969
@hornet6969 6 лет назад
+CUNYTV Thx 4 posting this ! Been seeking the full version of this 4 a long time. RIP Richard Heffner Loss of a gr8 mind Exemplary use of the Socratic method 2 the nth degree.
@johngordon1175
@johngordon1175 2 года назад
Wiki online is no longer verified through an authorised agency but we accept what Google returns to the questioning public, also dictionaries no longer keep although they should definitions of words. We seem to be more interested in social mores!
@muskduh
@muskduh 2 года назад
Thanks for the video
@jaysomewhereinflyoverterri735
@jaysomewhereinflyoverterri735 4 года назад
My opinion is that the subject of this video addresses, if not the most clear and present danger to America, it addresses a very real and pernicious danger to our society, our way of life, our economy, and our ability to defend ourselves against our enemies. I believe that the best way to combat this rot is to incrementally, dissolve the federal department of education and return this power and responsibility back to the individual states. The teachers union should never have been allowed to come into being in the first place. I don't believe that labor unions should have been ever been allowed organize any government workers, both federal and state. Keeping unions out of state bureaucracies through legislation is one power that I gladly cede to the federal government.
@omalone1169
@omalone1169 4 года назад
10:00 I'm 1986 he published amusing ourselves to Death And was still ahead of his time . Passive forms are not doing other things . Computers are tools yet books are different
@scottgrohs5940
@scottgrohs5940 3 года назад
Is it an ignorance problem or is it a focus problem? Many popular computer apps foster environments favorable to short attention spans. Even in the professional world, email conversation has largely dispensed with the art of persuasive writing in favor of short and to-the-point messages, which to me is reflective of short attention span.
@toddmiller7876
@toddmiller7876 7 дней назад
Education rankings, state by state. The numbers haven' t changed in decades. They are that way intentionally.
@aek12
@aek12 2 года назад
jefferson was a slave owner.
@francesbernard2445
@francesbernard2445 5 месяцев назад
😄That phrase, "Dumbing Down" sure does sound familiar. No not because I have ever accused anyone of doing that sort of thing. While I have been often taking university courses in hopes of finally being percieved as being intelligent enough too after flunking a rudimentary I.Q. screening test in grade 3. Unlike poor late John Lennon who passed that screening test with flying colors. Was his demise in part due to how well he passed that screening test while being discovered and then sometimes while he was not enjoying being the center of attention? Leading those 4 fine married young men entertainers later to write the song, "A Hard Day's Night."
@catsaresocute650
@catsaresocute650 3 года назад
I think yes, because you can't do anything but fight for what you think is right.
@darthvader5300
@darthvader5300 4 года назад
I thank God that the first order of Joseph Stalin is to gather all the books printed in the world and all natural species and varieties of each specie of plants in the world. In one of the many duplicated microfilm archives of the Kremlin and in many parts of Russia I have seen text books meant for students grades 1 to 7, high school students 1st year to 4th year high school. And college text books for college students from 1st year to 4th year college in all fields of science, engineering, technology, trades, vocations, shops schools, etc. And everything were systematically well organized using the dewey decimal system and based on the systematic grades level from elementary, high school, and college up to bachelor degrees, masters degrees, and doctorates degrees. The search and gathering and collection started in the 20s going way back to 1900 and then to 1800 and 1700, etc and at the same time going to the 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, up to the present year 2016. Microfilming is sill extensively used by my government for it was already a matured technology in 1900 and the technology has constantly been improved on and expounded upon continuously. And all of the books, magazines, encyclopedias, dictionaries, thesauruses, conversion tables, mini-mags, pocket books, hard bound books, paperbacks, maps, etc were all systematically searched for, collected, duplicated, microfilmed many dozens of times over, carefully preserved, AND PROTECTED AS IF WE ARE PROTECTING A STATE SECRET because these are our insurance against both man-made catastrophes and natural catastrophes. We even went so far to set up the numerous laboratories and machine tool shops needed and used by these scientists, engineers, technologists, technicians, master machinists, doctors, surgeons, etc. The books were reprinted many times in both English and in Russian, the other books written in foreign languages such as German, France, Japanese, etc were translated into English and in Russian and in their original languages using high quality archival printing ink and high quality archival paper. I also have seen the old books of Europe printed many centuries ago and their quality is VERY HIGH INDEED AS IF THEY WERE PRINTED JUST A WEEKS AGO! Unlike today's so called quality ink and paper.
@TruthMakesPeace
@TruthMakesPeace 4 года назад
#GlobalDumbing is the biggest problem facing our world.
@KatyYoder-cq1kc
@KatyYoder-cq1kc 18 дней назад
Communism
@nunisthathigh4825
@nunisthathigh4825 4 года назад
The school board spends far more time banning books than assigning them. Even with the current US system a lot of outside information via books or whatever, is suppressed in replace for the mass mainstream media communications, disavowing The Bill of Rights for favoring governments and companies. In conclusion, the present-day police-state apparatus (or eventual police-state all around) dumbs society down, not solely the educational system. Because in a police-state the only point of view you'll be permitted to hear is the same old, dumbed down point of view the system wants you to believe.
@UnschoolingCOM
@UnschoolingCOM 4 года назад
Unschooling.com
@marklevan6546
@marklevan6546 3 года назад
If we compare ourselves to other nations, we can be number one in some vectors, If we compare ourselves to a hoped for standard, we fail miserably.,We avoid the truth that hurts. Our TV model ought to be like Icelands. Emphasize learning, not mush for the minds.
@garyesposito192
@garyesposito192 3 года назад
So long a profit over a societies development exists its easy to forecast the outcome.
@ralphheimburger1447
@ralphheimburger1447 2 года назад
Brawndo has Electrolytes! It's got what plants crave!
@bhatkrishnakishor
@bhatkrishnakishor 3 года назад
To divide the current world along political lines is the biggest mistake the intellectuals commit.
@Musicienne-DAB1995
@Musicienne-DAB1995 Год назад
Especially since many people's views cannot easily be divided between one group and another.
@justaguy2365
@justaguy2365 10 месяцев назад
The homeless problem is going to get a lot worse in the next 20 years. When the next generation comes of age with no real world skills, and with jobs becoming more specialized, there won't be any work for them.
@Weird-City
@Weird-City 4 года назад
I knew it!
@soowie4599
@soowie4599 2 года назад
Dumb Downing of Society
@HemantKChitale
@HemantKChitale 3 года назад
"If you are looking for garbage ... on the Internet ..." That is the major problem when people go to "the Web".
@reaseAable
@reaseAable Месяц назад
The saying make sure your mind isn't so open that you brains fallout
@hydrolito
@hydrolito 4 года назад
Calculator can't do fractions. 10 divided by 3 is 3 and 1/3 calculator gives 3.3333333 which is only an approximation.
@WadeBanks-fn7ns
@WadeBanks-fn7ns 23 дня назад
It’s 2024 and the epidemic has gotten worse since the recording of this video.
@lazygagalxxxv
@lazygagalxxxv 3 года назад
Poor woman had no idea about Trump n Kanye West running for president.
@belletense3618
@belletense3618 2 года назад
5:20 her is in for one hell of a shock in 2020 😂
@nigelmarshallkenyonabbott8684
@nigelmarshallkenyonabbott8684 2 года назад
Compelling articulation, indeed Just using those terms pigeonholes me into the nerd, geek category of some kind of snobbish elite. I am aged in the middle of the baby boom years. We had our garbage. I used to watch way too much television, but for some reason I only watch maybe 1 hour a day. I use and treat the internet like a reference library of information, not social media. I now have much more self discipline than I've ever had. Anyway, I think we're experiencing the passing of empire to another, namely China. I don't think for a minute that the average Chinese can't make change in a convenience store, maybe I'm wrong and the internet technology has caused the world's collective brain to melt. Stay tuned
@Musicienne-DAB1995
@Musicienne-DAB1995 Год назад
I watch far less TV than I used to, quit most social media, and I am reading more books than I did for over a decade.
@debbiesowell3942
@debbiesowell3942 2 года назад
I wonder if Ms. Jacoby is familiar with the book Charlotte Iserbyt wrote in 1999 titled “The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America?”
@deonal
@deonal 4 года назад
Saw the opening sponsors, now turning it off before they even begin to talk!
@cbhaessig
@cbhaessig 4 года назад
Hillary is very cleaver is off - she’s extremely evil & very deceitful
@tylerwhite4959
@tylerwhite4959 2 года назад
She proves that she's not all that intelligent either! WE DID NOT HAVE A DEMOCRATIC POLITICAL CULTURE DURING JEFFERESONS TIME! We had a Constitutional Republic ONLY!
@ninjambita5090
@ninjambita5090 3 года назад
Thank you algorithm 😏
@SenorTucano
@SenorTucano 9 месяцев назад
2:44 choosing an intellectually challenged chief executive….. that aged well
@carolannmiles-hughes6222
@carolannmiles-hughes6222 4 года назад
Ah 20/20 hindsight is a teal riot! ROFL 😆
@MadDragon75
@MadDragon75 2 года назад
Mathematics is the tangible universal truth.
@alwayscheckthisstuff494
@alwayscheckthisstuff494 2 года назад
Going to throw some chum in the water on this one.... Dont assume what i believe on this . As a strict libertarian, my view here is nuanced, but... Our forefathers took the intelligence and capability of our voters very seriously. They even had requirements and laws to attempt to ensure such... requirements such as land ownership or other evidence of knowledge of the world, voting age 25, citizenship (knowledge of and shared experience/goals of other citizens), etc. It seems many today who aggressively advocated removal of those restrictions are from the same political group that is now bemoaning the lack of qualifications of the US voter.. ...while currently advocating for reducing the age of voters, allowing the requirements of citizenship to be waived, and discouraging the exercise of reasoned thought in our schools (NEA/Teachers Unions & new teaching dumbing down a lot of the education using anti-racism/equity excuse) from my point of view, listening to her talk about this issue without even addressing all of the above actually trips my critical thinking circuits and i wonder if she isi intentionally trying to 'dumb down' the conversation to avoid blowback on things she supports or she really has absorbed this message of 'dumbing down' without engaging the critical portion of the issue which is its *cause*, not just its existence either reason really hurts her credibility as an 'authority' on the subject so ... *mea culpa..* i have not read her book and the lack of deeper/ real discussion on the issue may not be her failure to understand or address but rather be the interviewer missing the deeper issue or dumbing down the topic for his audience.
@phillipsolesky2677
@phillipsolesky2677 10 месяцев назад
Clearly pretentious, which really means clueless. Of course the democratic nominees were puppets, BUT no one seems to understand the meaning of simplicity in language. After about 5 minutes I couldn't stomach it any longer, but (and I have never voted in my life) Trump is an icon of intelligence in action!!
@uilium
@uilium 5 лет назад
People make up concepts and then can't tell the difference between reality & concepts.
@uilium
@uilium 4 года назад
@Joseph Marton Yeah, there is a 97% consensus, apparently, that humans cause global warming but that is misleading because they aren't saying human beings are responsible for all of the global warming. Is it that humans cause 100% of it or like .2% of it? Why doesn't the media make that clear, that is very strange and ominous to me?
@uilium
@uilium 4 года назад
@Joseph Marton Oh yeah? Where is that?
@berthaantoinettamason9207
@berthaantoinettamason9207 2 года назад
5 minutes in and a bunch of generalities. She states fact and doesn't explain, so we must take her word for it. 6:13 is when the generalities are done. The video actually does get serious.
@packleader1215
@packleader1215 2 года назад
I'm here after watching a Gen Z can't tell time - one of those street microphone type videos asking random people supposedly simple questions.
@anthonycraig274
@anthonycraig274 2 года назад
Before she started to name, names, I seriously thought this was made in the 1990s
@patcaza6166
@patcaza6166 Год назад
"I dont want to think about the creation of a form of politics that would be as dumb as we have become so far" mmm...
@robertwnorrisii9143
@robertwnorrisii9143 4 года назад
By way of sound & blankets
@tomjohn8733
@tomjohn8733 3 года назад
Very young children are like blank chips who can be programmed for good or bad, either way does not promote children to think for themselves and stifles creative thinking, which is why parents always want to create children in their image...
@flip2724
@flip2724 2 года назад
nice job with 2008
@sawyerahbiesadventuressaa4158
@sawyerahbiesadventuressaa4158 2 года назад
Lets see .32 cents a gallon thats about 8.5% tax per dollar thats after 30% wage tax on top 5% tax on goods not to mention 1.7% tax on property tax so in Wisconsin that is 41.7% of my money goes to taxes......No I do not think you understand. Not at all.
@aliciasciascia9227
@aliciasciascia9227 5 месяцев назад
I don’t think she understands that the average person does not need to be a scholar. Why does she seem to think that geography should be a popular pass-time, because that’s what she enjoys?
@FreedaPeeple-u8z
@FreedaPeeple-u8z 21 день назад
Maybe because she understands that educated people contribute far more to the nation, and the world, than the typical undereducated american does...
@fortyseventen
@fortyseventen 3 года назад
Wouldn't it actually be Dumbing Up? Increasing in quantity and rate of growth/adoption...?
@opinionday0079
@opinionday0079 4 года назад
where do you find inspiring enlightened souls to teach young people to think for themselves. The problem grows more dyer as time passes and the fruits of the political education system become the new teachers. Blind leading the blind. everyone should read Nietzsche. This women is quiet shallow.
@opinionday0079
@opinionday0079 4 года назад
@Julia A Thanks for the corrections, I am a terrible speller.
@UnschoolingCOM
@UnschoolingCOM 4 года назад
Unschooling.com
@gregoryreese6536
@gregoryreese6536 Год назад
5:14 No, “we” did not. See: conduct of Ohio's 2004 presidential election. If anything, 2004 was more of a rip-off than 2000. While I loved Jacoby's Ingersoll bio, I have to say that her other popular works, i.e., written for the broader public rather than academia, while both enlightening and thoroughly researched, aren't exactly scintillating.
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