Suzuka's First Proposal Was Nuts | SouthPawRacer's Soapbox 

Yo can we get this as an AC mod?

why his hair on upside down lol

The best proposal is to continue this series.

A fun series of "Proposed" race circuits in a sim sounds like a blast. Especially that Silverstone layout with the banked Club section, same goes with some of the proposals for Monza.

Conspiracy theory: he’s _actually_ sitting on a soapbox.

you've made me consider teaching myself to model racetracks for racing sims. i've never even owned a racing sim, but i really want to give people an opportunity to race on that initial Hugenholz draft with the 3 crossovers.

Someone needs to make All versions for sim racing. They all seem so interesting. Suzuka is in general.

Would really like this to continue as a series, these are fun to watch

Hugenholtz and Honda: "Alright, we have a germ of an idea, but let's use a 3D model of the area to see if we can do it and if we can improve on it." Tilke: "What? Elevations? Topographic clues? CAROUSSELS? HERESY! FETCH ME A COMPASS AND A RULER, I NEED MY MEANINGLESS 90-DEGREE BENDS!"

i knew the subs would roll in once the content ramped up again. loving it

Never heard about John Hugenholtz before, but it seemed to definitely be the anti-Tilke and that's a reason to deeply respect him.

Keep 'em coming! Would love to drive that 1st rendition, gives me the feeling of one of those PS1 racing game bonus tracks that just go nuts with bridges

Nothing beats the current Suzuka, basic, fun and has a mix of everything

Of all the people who deserve more than 10k subs, it's you Rhys. You rock. I know, I know...the whole "I only upload once every Harvest Moon"...but seriously, you are most deserving of this milestone! Enjoy your life and we'll all be here, ready and waiting for your next (mis)adventure in the sim racing world!

One of my top 3 tracks in the world alongside imola and bathurst!! Really enjoyed this one! Love from southern california 💞

Hugenholtz's first design is probably my favorite. I'd love to see modern racecars trying to negotiate that 1st hairpin. It just seems so absurdly tight and I can imagine so many track-blocking accidents similar to what we get at Macau.

Found that channel just yesterday and omg, i ve been addicted. You re the absolute best, keep it up!

Fun fact about Hugenholtz designs: He had been playing around with the concept of "stadium" sections, with slow corners near large grandstands, well before Tilke. His bread-and-butter, however, seemed to be putting slow corners behind the pits, within sight of the fans at the start-finish grandstands. Examples being the Hockenheim Motodrom, and Jarama's Turn 4. Zandvoort's Turn 4 (which is actually named after him) also follows this trope, although he wasn't actually in charge of that design. Apparently, he had that in mind for Suzuka for a while, hence the bizarre hairpin in the early versions of the design. I guess he eventually decided it made the circuit too complicatd, so he settled down with the esses instead.

If they maked the first idea with 3 crossovers the legendary crash in the chicane between senna and prost would not happen

Next one : Mexico ! There's a lot to say... 👌😉

Didn't expect seeing the name of my local race track (Ahvenisto) in the video. It's definitely an interesting track!

Love the editing on this.

Suzuka needs to be left exactly as it is, I love it this way

Now that's what you call a figure of triple eight track

Please make more videos like this. I really love them and even i learn something. Silverstone or Monza might be a good idea on this type of video.

This was great. Agree with many other commenters that given the limited number of tracks with lots of proposals, maybe you could also cover changes to circuits. Maybe chuck in some satellite images, even Google Street view for some circuits that use real roads. I love this shit

This became one of my favourite channels quickly.......

The Spoon corner's past iterations are madness

Suzuka is one of the great classic racetracks I hope no one ever fucks with the design!

Suzuka is my favorite circuit of all and I view it as the ultimate f1 track

I love these proposed circuit videos so far! I'd be interested to see one on Autopolis if possible since they ended up with such an interesting layout.

*PLEASE, CONTINUE THIS SERIES!!*

Please do more Japanese circuits as they have a easy top 10 circuits that are phenomenal to drive that apart from Suzuka, Fuji, Twin Ring Motegi and Tsukuba, no one knows about. And I think they deserve more recognition.

You’re channel is awesome! Please don’t let up, channel growth can explode if you continue regular upload and interact with viewers. I’m heading to COTA in a few weeks and am excited for something so amazing! Hope to see more of your content!

As a Ferrari Fan I can only say: there is no need for the chicane or the Esses. Just go straight through, it’s way more fun 😂

What about Interlagos and the changes throughout the decades as a suggestion for the next video? That one has changed a huge amount since its inception.

The stadium part of the second layout proposal looks great. The first proposal is so crazy, the first trun with a bridge ... A deadly idea

Loving the deluge of content right now dude keep it up

Formula One and WEC should Race at Mobility Resort Motegi for the Japanese Grand Prix while MotoGP revs up at Suzuka Circuit

Really enjoy this series, please keep them coming! Another really interesting track would definitely be Fuji Speedway, which was originally going to be a 4km banked Speedway circuit for Japanese NASCAR races. Add a couple changes, bish bash bosh, we have our current course.

4:52 This is what you get when you ask a new person to racing to draw the circuit after being it shown once

I like this new series!! Keep it up unless you need a break lol

we need more of these, more

Absolutely love these!

the last one just before official old Suzuka is my favourite

Now they need to make this into a circuit on racing games

I stg southpawracer is literally the most underrated racing youtuber on the whole planet

I love these new circuit history videos. Cant wait to watch more of them. Keep up the good work!!!

Ahvenisto is the Suzuka of Europe. Shorter, slower, but just as FUN!

Thank you for the video. Actual design is ok, most of the corners and their combinations are unique. I'd like to see some modifications in chicane area, maybe wider approach and tighten entry.

Holy shit you're already at 12.1k? Great to see your channel finally get what it deserves man.

I’m so glad that you are making videos on a regular basis again

These videos are great, glad to see more content out of this channel. That downhill uphill carousel would be the interesting one in my opinion.

I actually quite like the first half of that second proposal, though it falls apart a little after the esses. I wouldn't really have many complaints if that first half made it to the final design. It doesn't do enough to make me prefer it over what we got though (and besides, that section looks more suitable if it were designed a decade or two later rather than the early 60's). I've also got a couple of suggestions. The first is that when you do the individual overlays, you compare the proposal to the original layout and not the current one, as it gives a better representation of how the proposals transformed over time to create the final design. The second is that maybe for future videos like this, you look at how a particular track's layout has transformed over the years rather than just the proposals, because there aren't too many tracks that have the number of proposals that Spa and Suzuka have (Birmingham and the Nurburgring GP-Strecke are the only ones that to mind). Tracks like Le Mans, Monza, Silverstone and Sebring have changed dramatically over the years and I think that would be very interesting to look at.

If you connect the two long straights on the first design, it makes Auvs

7:22 I really like the way they designed 130R. Looks really challenging, even for F1. Even so is the approach towards the hairpin.

When I saw the second proposed layout I wanted to faint from pure joy

When does this Mario Kart DLC get released?

What did I just miss... I really like this series a lot. Got a bit of an idea here: how 'bout revealing some of the boring tracks' proposals (like Sochi or Yas Marina)? What if those tracks had really some unfulfilled potential to be good? BTW I also miss ur super serious track guide series, maybe Yeongam next?

I kinda wanna do that first one (the original concept) and the triple crossover

The old versions still look a lot more flowing than a new Tilke monstrosity

I really enjoy these videos.

ahhhhhh glad you're back.

Your content is super duper duper duper good. More plz!

Very much enjoyed! Thank you sir.

I just found this channel, love it

Great work as usual mate.

So after all the proposals, the first Suzuka was built pretty much as it stands today, obviously without all the safety protective Armco (though it did have some) and run-off zones. It also didn't have the final chicane, meaning it was pretty much flat-out from Spoon to the first corner, which would've been ridiculously scary when you consider the sweeping downhill right-hander the chicane cuts in half....

Iracing should make some tracks out of these designs.

Johannes Hugenholz also designed the original Zandvoort track

The hairpin as well as the S curves in sector one were a direct result of Mika Hondas (the mother of Soichiro) collection of hairpins and addiction to them (older hairpins were straight on one side and had 3 curves on the other side). Since Japanese like to incorporate sth personal into sth that should outlast his and their life, it is believed that he "ordered" those parts of the track to be there. I don´t speak Dutch but German which is quite similar, so I understood 80% of the story.

Loved it. Also, please bring back super serious track guides

I still want a track that topologically is a knot.

Would be cool to have some of those prototype tracks recreated in simulators. The third design (after the tri-bridge) looks very fun.

Hugenholtz also had a big role in Zandvoort I believe

New sub here, just wanted to telle you that you remind me of the EverydayAstronaut, except you're into sim. Great channel by the way, can't wait to see you hit 100k sub and more 👌

I didn't know Ahvenisto track was designed by John Hugenholz... That explains why we Finns like the Suzuka so much

*Circuits with threatening auras*

Hey I love your videos dude keep doing what you're doing , and btw i noticed your comedy is similar to RCR's did he inspire you in any way ?

Really nicely presented and edited!

The ninja only needed one cut (overpass) to make a kill[er track]

Thanks for the very informative video!! Suzuka as it is now is indeed a very coherent and enjoyable track. The dangerousness of that "straight" back to the "start" in the "three bridges" version!!! With an old Spa-style "Masta" kink maybe? ... and why not a good old Nordschleife-like jump as well for good measure... so people can really have something to gape at from the top of the Ferris wheel.

I think the one at around 8 minutes would of been better than the one we have now...

The First Design Looks Like AVUS And Half Of Barhrain

That 1st design seems to be kind of extreme but same time has to go with cars at that time (design is based on something and that something most likely is what is outside of window at current time with maybe some slight increase in speed but not -10 s per lap) and that could actually be some real fun (and challenge for engine with that loong flat-out part) with much lower downforce/grip cars.

hi SouthpawRacer! i just wanted to let you know that SRO/GT America have added the Las Vegas Motor Speedway's Roval to their schedule as this year's finale, and not the actual real purpose built roadcourse sitting less than 3000 feet from it. it's the first time the Roval has been used since like 2000 or something before the pit lane was reconfigured. its exactly as awful as its always been. also i hate watching racecars repeatedly make the transition from banking to apron lap after lap. really gets the OCD going.

This series is great. Just race track content in general is great anyway.

1:51 G E K O L O N I S E E R D

Congrats on 12000 subs

That long and fast right hander could have been tamborello v2

Great video, I’m glad you learnt your right from your left!

Someone needs to make the original layout out in rural Texas or Colorado or Montana.

The first one. I like the first one. I really do. So wacky. And keep the rice fields. Adds charm.

Damn upload crazy!! im lovin it

"the hond and the hoog went to work.." *immediate regret*

First one looks like current proposed F1 tracks

Have you ever looked into Road America for wacky proposals? It's a fast paced track and looks like it might have had some crazy rough designs at first.

Yo that looks like Rainbow Road 3DS ngl

Great video! Ended up going trough some other videos too. Quality content, subscibed.

Hugenholtz was stoned when he designed the first one. Must be.