Suzuki P's Reflection Points, Misjudgments, and Thoughts on 2023 - Toram Livestream Clip

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AAA I really wanted to finish it in 2023, but I couldn't :(
I actually don't like to make a 10-minute-long video, but the amount of info that was spread around last year's year-end streams was just too much that I can't make it under 10 minutes. Sorry about that. I tried to not provide a clip that has the same info twice and make the video too concise, but I think it might create some misunderstanding. So, feel free to have doubts and, if you may, please tell me via comment if you don't understand some parts :D
The thumbnail was just me making fun of my own idea when making a thumbnail, and (hopefully) to describe the amount of info that this video has.
Stream source (timestamped):
[1] Livestream from November 21st, 2023
• 『トーラムオンライン/Toram Onlin...
[2] Livestream from December 6th, 2023
• 『トーラムオンライン/Toram Onlin...
[3] Livestream from December 28th, 2023
• 『トーラムオンライン/Toram Onlin...
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Disclaimer: This is NOT an official clip from BemmoChan. It's just a hobby of mine to do some translation. Therefore, if there's any inaccuracy or mistranslation, or maybe a misuse of English words or sentences, a correction or some will be much appreciated!
00:00 [1] Suzuki P's reflection point
00:15 [1] Terrablast and plan for new Knuckle skill
00:35 [1] Necromancer Skill
00:45 [1] Downward and Upward Adjustments
01:02 [1] "You suck!" -C
01:08 [1] The problem of being the game developer
01:18 [1] OP skills, buffing, and nerfing problems
02:27 [1] Party Recruitment Board and Bazaar
02:59 [1] Future adjustments implementation schedule
(January 10th, 2024 stream: • 『トーラムオンライン/Toram Onlin... )
03:05 [1] "Give us your thoughts"
03:20 [1] "Make Sprite Skill Stronger!" -C
03:26 [1] A game producer who is close to his players
03:42 [1] As a professional
03:53 [1] "PvP shouldn't be implemented"
04:03 [1] PvP's contributions (in them)
04:18 [1] Closing PvP, build PvE, or a PvP reshape
04:37 [1] PvP's main lobby
04:48 [1] PvP revamp(?)
04:53 [2] Weapon Skills adjustments
05:11 [2] Skills that are prioritized
05:20 [2] Lunar Misfortune
05:33 [2] Enchat Sword
05:41 [2] Adjusting Crysta
05:56 [2] Finalized info will be on...
06:02 [2] Range bonus for Satellite Arrow
06:09 [2] "How's Halberd?" -C
06:15 [2] "Give us your thoughts" II
06:21 [2] Aerial Cut and Kuffania
06:32 [2] Dragonic Charge's second hit
06:35 [2] "Halberd Shield?" -C
06:56 [2] Ninjutsu Skills
07:00 [2] "FK for Bow pls" -C
07:20 [2] If all the weapons can do FK
07:35 [2] Weak-hearted Suzuki P
07:46 [2] "Why are you blaming the players" -C
08:03 [3] Suzuki P's thoughts of 2023
08:09 [3] "There's PvP, though?"
08:22 [3] "Although there's a new thing..."
08:30 [3] (Planned to be) the future raid system
08:42 [3] Fishing, Fish Tank furniture, and Your Land things
09:07 [3] Requested skill, skill release, and balancing
09:17 [3] Free Reset info
09:23 [3] Crysta adjustment, free to extract
09:48 [3] "That's all!"
09:51 End Screen
09:58 [3] Extra
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Credits to Phantom Library ( / discord ) for all the skill multiplier information in this video.
Might or might not be helpful:
- Notes that I use to learn some Japanese Toram Terms (got a little progress maybe):
tinyurl.com/ToramJishoKaMo
- Subtitle Files
tinyurl.com/toramliveclipsubt

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@AidaShin 5 месяцев назад

3:28 Just to clarify that this part was just a joke; not to be taken seriously. Suzuki P often comes to NoiR Games's streams and interact with his viewers and/or players that were online in there (on a Japanese server). The Eagle Talon's collab in 2023 was also requested by him and his friends/viewers when Suzuki P came to his stream on 2022 where they were collecting the RoM materials for the RoM Tournament around the Japanese community (he explains that the DX Fighter's Xtall is just too useful and the price was inflated that the new players can't obtain it). Also, the person who asks, "which streamer?" (3:26), Seigasama, is also a well-known player among the Japanese Toram community and well-known by the developer themselves; one of the OG Japanese Toram players who played Toram since the alpha version. I included it in the video since I think it might foreshadowed the future Crysta adjustments (I haven't checked which stream he talked about the complaints, but I'm sure it was because either NoiR Games' or Seigasama's stream that Suzuki P watched)

@kagari_toram 5 месяцев назад

I watch seiga's and NoiR's streams and i see suzuki p sometimes its really cool to see :)

@ExerFlame 5 месяцев назад

Thank you for taking the time to translate the information Aida Shin! :D I actually came back to Toram end of 2023! In my opinion, I think players left the game as it's too grindy to acquire a specific piece of gear or xtal, so they had to grind for spina instead. The process is repetitive. During my Hiatus, I've played other games and they don't have player-to-player economy and I don't have to worry about Market prices. I wonder if this would be good for Toram as the players can focus more on the loot, while the guys at Asobimo can have one less thing to worry about, and that is botters and economy inflation etc etc. They can focus on designing proper NPC traders and Quests in the game. This is just my thoughts, I really love Toram and I hope to see this game continue to do well 🙏

@irohasu309 5 месяцев назад

戦闘バランスも大事だけどやっぱりそれだけがトーラムの楽しみではないと思うから生活関連の充実度を高めてほしい！

@AidaShin 4 месяца назад

トーラムは毎日でやんなきゃいけないゲームじゃないって昔鈴木Pが言った記憶があった気がするのでデイリークエスト見たいなコンテンツはおそらく実装されていないと思いますけどやっぱり今のトーラム結構つまんないとは思うだから新レイドコンテンツとか釣りの実装は結構期待してトーラムを続いおります最後に追加されたのはたしかストゥーディの実験で３年(?)前のものでかなり飽きてるんすよね...

@cyril_bleh 5 месяцев назад

thanks

@AidaShin 5 месяцев назад

No problem!

@mecanic8137 5 месяцев назад

As a main kn player I must say kn is just fine the way it is, a resistant class with a decent amount of dps, the only class de needs for sure improvement is 2h

@anomouswhiteliquid-tq9rs 4 месяца назад

True

@sibayiajaib3954 5 месяцев назад

no need accept from jealousy player who is doesnt have kmd we need kmd still there its such great achievement toram just need buff other job such hb and bow

@AidaShin 5 месяцев назад

Nah, kmd is just broken, and hb are just fine IMO (because I have Etoise's Halberd :D). They have some new skills for bow and some skill ideas for Halberd, so all we can do is just wait for now.

@tommasobrichetti3540 5 месяцев назад

i have it and im pretty positive they need to nerf it would be cool if you culd also use magic as a magic knight effectivly @@AidaShin

@captainpie9793 5 месяцев назад

When they say buff the blade skills are referring to only Ths or both Ths and Ohs? Because they both need it! Most of the blade skills scales with dex, but our base atk skill with str which makes us lose our out on base atk and crit dmg for skill multipliers 😭

@FreuRozen 5 месяцев назад

What are you talking bro? Soul hunter, of course it base on str. But all of blade skill for ohs scales from dex. And the atk scales mostly from the dex. Are you using gear full of str up stat?

@AidaShin 5 месяцев назад

Not sure but probably it's just for THS. They acknowledge that OHS dps depends alot in condition (such as revenir and shut-out) and they once said that they will do something about it, but I think for now they want to prioritize THS. They said that THS doesn't have any variation when building it

@su1thor760 5 месяцев назад

Ppl gamblin on how bad the altadar nerf will hit. Its basically ds wet dream as is rn, probs 5stab and 9srd, but its actually strong still since it had str% well its hdb its as expected the xtal is strong.

@muhammadilhamsaputra8545 5 месяцев назад

ini lah kenapa gw suka sama toram online selain karena gamenya bagus bet. developernya baik sama playernya apalagi tiap bulan muncul buat ngasih tau update kedepannya. harusnya game kayak begini playernya rajin nge top up orb. semoga toram online selalu sukses dan banyak yang tertarik sama toram sampai ke streamer. baik streamer gede maupun youtuber.

@khaoscontrol777 5 месяцев назад

There's nothing wrong with an openly stated p2w game....(pft) But in Torams case it's so much more convoluted. Topping up? In Toram? Why. Ultimately you do two things. Improve stats or look good. One is constantly under threat of a nerf with content consistently attempting to undermine you- the other...well exists

@19.wahyuwaliyudin63 5 месяцев назад

Kalo setiap ava ada skill kusus atau stat kusus yg op. Mungkin bakal banyak yg top up

@muhammadilhamsaputra8545 5 месяцев назад

@@19.wahyuwaliyudin63 auto p2w kalau gitu bang 🗿.

@Dancient9999 5 месяцев назад

@@19.wahyuwaliyudin63 top up bukan sekedar beli Avatar, kan ada paket bulanan

@aokami20 3 месяца назад

I honestly think the same, pvp doesn't suit toram. I've been playing since its release and never felt the necessity of pvp

@yunan9610 5 месяцев назад

Im all for new crusher skill, if they want to nerf asura then it should be compensated fairly

@AidaShin 5 месяцев назад

Asura is too OP and I doubt they would do a compensation for it since it's already too strong. With the damage reduction, ailment resistance, and combined with Crusher Skill's Godhand+God's Rigid Body, you can become a tank without filling MTL stats and can stand against a boss's high damage But, I don't know. Hope that they will do justice to it

@dimlfinale7730 5 месяцев назад

Asura and god hand dmg reduction don't stack. I'm main knuckle user. I know very well. I would never use asura+ god hand because waste mana and the damage reduction doesn't reduce more than asura can give.@@AidaShin

@dimlfinale7730 5 месяцев назад

Knuckle don't have attack skill for dealing big DMG like other weapon has.. we knuckle user still use rush

@rnxzem2795 5 месяцев назад

@@dimlfinale7730 yep, rush with abstract arm to deal damage faster. Its sad if ashura got nerf tho because i knew the stuggle as kncukle main since before t5

@dimlfinale7730 5 месяцев назад

@@rnxzem2795 ikr, even with abstract arm,kn is not fk class. It's more like a survival brawler type unlike glass cannon fk build. I still can't get rank 1 attacker. Took me 3 mins to kill kuzto solo with Merc while all fk build took like under 40 sec.

@0Ark0Gloo0 5 месяцев назад

Katana can't do wide aoe skill and it's easy to one hit sometimes if your fast enough 😢

@AidaShin 5 месяцев назад

Katana have Hasso Happa at the very least... and Soul Hunter if you spend 16-25 more sp on Dark Energy Skill And I think it's designed to be a weapon that can deal high damage on a single enemy.

@anraulfazekas 5 месяцев назад

Masih ga paham kenapa mereka masih ngebet Lilicarolla stat nya bakal tetap buat Katana doang, seolah ini job emang lemah banget n multiplier nya Unsheate doang.. sampe skrng belum di bahas kenapa ada perbedaan kek gini.

@AidaShin 5 месяцев назад

Unsheathe sebenarnya emang stat khusus buat katana. Dalam bahasa Jepangnya, Unsheathe itu namanya 抜刀攻撃 (:battou kougeki) yang jika diartikan secara harfiah artinya "serangan katana" cuma karena di bahasa Inggrisnya pake Unsheathe, Indonesianya juga ngikut terjemahan bahasa Inggris pake "Hunus" Mereka sekarang lebih sering rilis skill dari senjata lain yang pake hunus, sih, kayak Misfortune atau last hitnya TBB di DS, tapi keknya Unsheathe di DS emang sengaja dibuat kecil pengaruhnya-- pakai flashblast dan lv10 Godspeed udah cukup. Tapi, mereka juga pernah bilang kalau Katana dan DS itu sengaja dibikin mirip walau alasannya gak disebut kenapa :v

@anraulfazekas 5 месяцев назад

@@AidaShin tapi seblum ada katana, ds duluan ada dan skill nya uda unsheate, kalo emang khusus katana harus nya ga di buat katana ngefek Srd

@AidaShin 5 месяцев назад

@@anraulfazekas ya kalau dibuat gak ngefek srd kelewatan juga sih :v maksudku, beda dengan ths atau halberd yang di mana lebih tinggi ATK, lebih banyak manfaatnya buat naikin dmg. Base watk-nya emng udh tinggi juga dari sananya. Beda dgn katana yang base watknya paling rendah (kan ya?) yang di mana ATK-nya gak bakal segede THS ama Halberd, makanya dibikinin stat khusus katana, Unsheathe, biar agak balance dikit. Base watk-nya ds, atau OHS, kan lebih tinggi dari katana. Iya, sih, ds duluan ada dari katana. Tapi skill-skill ds yang berguna waktu ituawal rilis bukan skill yang ngebutuhin banget stat Unsheathe. W kurang tau kalau Flashblast itu pernah di-rework apa nggk, tpi yang w inget banyak build ds yg lawas itu pada gak ambil Godspeed (sebelum Saber Aura) yang nambah Unsheathe karena emng gk begitu sama skill dps utama. Unsheathe baru relevan untuk DS di update tier 5-nya. Charging Slash sama Storm Reaper butuh Unsheathe sih buat naikin dmg, tapi w ragu kalau ada org yg spam dua skill itu sebagai skill dps utama. Kalau pun ada, tujuannya paling buat senang-senang doang, bukan buat adu fk/dmg tinggi gimana

@anraulfazekas 5 месяцев назад

@@AidaShin ya aku tau kelewatan, makanya Unsheate kalo mau di bilang stat khusus Katana itu ga masuk akal, karna Katana aja jg ngefek stat yang lain, dan aku ga ngarep Katana di nerf Dan ya dua skill itu Charging n Storm reap, gak pernah populer di jaman nya, jaman tier 3 Charging, xtall Unsehate itu setauku cuman Goovua, stat Srd jg dikit, jd ngebuild skill ini ckup susah, jaman tier 4 juga orang ga pakek Storm reap buat skill utama krn gerakan nya yang aga gaje Tapi gada orang ga ambil Godspeed, karna walopun ga main Unsheate, Godspeed itu Agi+15, Flash blast pun minimal ambil lv 1 karna +25% w.atk

@AidaShin 5 месяцев назад

@@Hardcoregamer9 agak aneh sih kalau mau bilang favoritism. Soalnya char favoritnya Suzuki P itu Knuckle, bukan katana. Tpi ya bingung jga sih knp katana yg selalu dpt buff/update eq bagus dsb...

@khaoscontrol777 5 месяцев назад

Ah, my foot! It hasn't got a hole in it.... Quick, fetch me my gun! -Suzuki & Friends making decisions every month.

@TheGuideOfTerrarians 5 месяцев назад

YEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSS!!!!!! NECROMANCER SKILLLLL!!!!!!!

@nuradhysetiawan2453 5 месяцев назад

imagine it, necromancer+darkness+spirits. basicaly u got extremely support class who can summon+give debuff+resurrection+buff atk & deal some damage

@TheGuideOfTerrarians 5 месяцев назад

@@nuradhysetiawan2453 YESS, ican't waiitt:D

@FreuRozen 5 месяцев назад

@@nuradhysetiawan2453it pisical and maybe using atk as calculation dmg.

@Volinus 5 месяцев назад

Bow doesn't have any crit guaranteed skills!!!!!!!😢😢😢

@AidaShin 5 месяцев назад

use #toramrequest and post it on twitter ;) (I'll also try to do so via in-game inquiry)

@FreuRozen 5 месяцев назад

Yeah i wonder, why you can't have bonus crit when your job is focused on precision shoot concept? That kinda ridiculous, maybe add some skills that have bonus crit from dex

@AidaShin 5 месяцев назад

Now that I think about it, Bow doesn't have a guarantee crit skill because it is the weapon type that masters an accuracy. Bow at least have a skill with guarantee hit, Snipe, though it depends on Blind ailment. Bow also have a "high crit rate" skill, Fatal Shot, but really low accuracy and base damage so it's not that useful... But maybe Bow really need a guarantee crit skill, idk Kinda out of topics, but I once complaint about Bow/Bowgun that dominates the Miku Event last year because only Bow and Bowgun that can deal a big AoE with low MP cost. I asked some low MP cost AoE skills for another weapoj type, but they responded it with Cyclone Arrow, the new branch Hunter Skill exclusive for Bow. Since then, I've thought that the Bow was meant to be a weapon type that masters AoE (well, Cross Fire itself is an AoE high dps skill...) and mutiple hits with the t5 Retrograde Shot. So maybe, Bow is meant to be a weapon without guarantee crit? Idk. I've sent the inquiry so let's see how they do it. They said that they will add more Shot Skills this year somewhere

@Mk-id8om 5 месяцев назад

1:49 Power wave With Ds Is a right way to use ds then XD ... ahh don't mind me.. I'm not even active in game now.. =⁠_⁠= EDIT:- 2:12:- There he answered why I Left XDDD!!!

@D-corpse12 5 месяцев назад

understandable tbh many ppl aren't having fun either :'v

@AidaShin 5 месяцев назад

Sadly yeah, and it's kind of nullify the benefit of using a short range ds (without power wave) which is kind of irony since it is a sword class where you have to fight the enemy with close range. If only they give a bit more benefit for the power-wave-less ds... I kinda get the reason you are leaving. Hopefully they can do a good adjustment...

@Mk-id8om 5 месяцев назад

Yeah kinda sad, but I left for a different reason , and I agree pw is not for Dual swords or Short range attack class. But I left cuz of A lot of imbalance and also my guild ded :⁠'⁠( which might be the main reason, No Friends/Guildies = No fun. But I hope for best I still wanna comeback. Also thanks for the Subtitles man 👍, Even tho I'm not in game I do Like to hear out what they say and talk XD

@FreuRozen 5 месяцев назад

For me, ds power wave is overrated. Because you need to hit enemy with spining blade so the prorate for your aerial can get higher faster. I'm not seeing benefit having power wave in my ds build, it's make harder to shukuchi to get closer for my spining blade hit. Using power wave can also slow down your basic attack because you waiting the wave to hit enemy first then continue. And then using power wave is harder to shukuchi trick for higher ampr from shukuchi bonus. Power wave ds is not useful anymore.

@D-corpse12 5 месяцев назад

@@FreuRozen yes but when boss known for anti melee patterns (ex spikes,vortex) they will have the advantage imo

@fauzisglory 5 месяцев назад

World raid ngeri juga nanti tuh:v

@AidaShin 5 месяцев назад

Agak ragu dengan istilah "world raid" kalau dari asobimo karena PvP-nya aja rada gmna gitu :v Gak main iruna juga sih jdi gak tau sistem "world" raid-nya kek gimana. Tpi klo w pribadi lebih baik untuk tidak berekspektasi tinggi...

@rainfloor2919 4 месяца назад

the only problem with Toram that they kinda neglected the complaint outside of jp player, and their "anti-cheat" system kinda bonker ngl, me and couple of my friend got banned because of bug that happened back then with magic blade skill (enchanted spell) basically my char died when using enchanted spell and can't be revive the next day my account suddenly got banned because "using cheat or computer (?)" (already email CS and put whole record as proof, but the only reply i got is bot email reply and yeah I also write it in full japanese), my friend also got banned even tho he only play with fellow guild member, he always kick ppl that using auto click etc., I love the game, the whole skill/job concept is fun. but sadly their customer service probably one of the worst I've ever seen.

@AidaShin 4 месяца назад

agree with the anti-cheat part. The customer service though, well, it is inconvenient with all the data that you have to fill out. Still, I usually use customer service to report a bug and give some complaint/suggestion and they always give me a reply or maybe agree with the suggestion that I gave. Even if I use the English language to report, they always reply to it. I think they really need a very detailed description of what are the troubles that you are encountering. Also, as of January 31st, they open inquiries about some account problems (en.toram.jp/information/detail/?information_id=8806), so maybe if you want to apply an inquiry again, they will do something about it (?), (well, if you still have some trust on their customer service...) I know the Enchanted Spell bug too (I don't have a record of the bug that you found. I have a similar bug about the Magic Blade skills--- they already fixed that bug that I found [twitter.com/AidaShin33/status/1698292386265485531]) I have a friend who also recorded the bug about the Enchanted Spell and I believe he's still playing until now/not getting banned. I don't know how you "use" the bug, (well, I believe if you "use" it, it's for the research to know the details of the bug) but I think they really need a very detailed explanation about the bug that you found so they can do the investigation further.

@regulargirl1141 5 месяцев назад

It's all good no need to feel bad 😊 also those viewers and chat people need to chill out. Demanding skills need to be thia and that. And saying they suck which I hope it's a joke. If not, they will have to answer to me. They need to give them a break.

@AidaShin 5 месяцев назад

Wait, does this part 6:16 sounds like a bad comment? What they mean was something like "sometimes, one of your opinion push us forward/give us a positive impact" There was supposed to be a comment and Suzuki P was about to deny what the comment saying, but in the archive, there was no comment that relevant to what Suzuki was denying, but I'm sure the comment was something around "I don't want to give my opinion since it might ruins your thoughts about the game" (referring to 00:00), thus he denied with that "Your comment saying 'please do this', 'please do that', ..."

@regulargirl1141 5 месяцев назад

@@AidaShin No none of it sounded bad, sorry the part saying these guys sucks bother me was awfully rude of them players. These guys doing their best making the game better

@montagegamerlive3604 5 месяцев назад

Guess Alta xtal is in great risk right now. They might brutally nerf it though since it's too op

@AidaShin 5 месяцев назад

Not sure about the "brutally nerf" Altadar since it can actually be a long-term effective xtall such as the other hdb bosses. Maybe just lowering the stability by a small number, is what I expect...

@FreuRozen 5 месяцев назад

People only look ata srd stat, you didn't see the stability stat bro. The stability is too high. I think they will change it to some accuracy or something.

@montagegamerlive3604 5 месяцев назад

@@AidaShin But I doubt any other xtal has that big srd bonus. Who knows, they might touch some of srd as well and make it around 9% or something like rudis

@sunerezhep 5 месяцев назад

the most gamechanging thing will happen when they improve graphic

@AidaShin 4 месяца назад

Nah, if they just improve graphic out of nowhere, all the player would just stop playing the game. If you didn't know, there's an Asobimo Game called Metria and now it's not that popular despite being a mid-to-high spec and have a better graphic than Toram (not a good graphic but better than Toram at least)