Suzuki Shootout! Stock VS Mod - Motocross Action Magazine

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Motocross Action had the unique opportunity to test Dilan Schwartz's Bar X Suzuki RMZ250 at State Fair MX last year. We also brought out our bone stock RMZ250 to compare the bikes. Is a Pro bike good for everyone? How much faster could you be on a bike with mods? We did a lap time comparison to really get hard data on which bike our editor Josh Mosiman would be faster on. You are going to be surprised by the results! Yes the Suzuki has grown long in the tooth when compared to the tech that is being dumped into other brands. Does that make it a horrible bike to race? We can shed some light on that subject for you in this video as well. If you have ever considered buying a Suzuki or wondered if you could be competitive on one...this is the video for you to check out!
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Комментарии : 74

@xammendoza667 Год назад

Team yellow throughout the 2022 season is a very rare sight in the races. Hope they'll comeback on 2023. More colors, the better.

@333studios. Год назад

If Ken jumps on the RM we will see it a whole lot more. Im looking forward to it

@linusnilsson2734 Год назад

Suzuki easily the sexiest bikes, wish they could update them and bring some Enduro and 2-strokes to the table..

@Kawiboy Год назад

We need Suzuki back as a contender .. It only helps the industry and those bikes r solid if nothing else.. Thnx MXA/Josh 👊😉

@markallen6818 Год назад

I grew up riding and racing Suzuki RM's back in the late 70's and early 80's when Suzuki was kicking ass both Nationals and local tracks.

@salubobryan1032 Год назад

I hope this brand will dominate again

@jonballen1550 Год назад

all they need is Kenny and electric start!

@jonballen1550 Год назад

@Duke Bonde Tomac would finish top 5 on a suzuki . No question. Suzuki just can’t afford an elite rider

@moosemilk8956 Год назад

@Duke Bonde the bike is not that far behind.

@jasonweatherford5710 Год назад

@Duke Bonde geez we've never heard that before. 🐑

@moosemilk8956 Год назад

@Duke Bonde let me guess you haven’t ridden a Suzuki in ten years.

@nuthintoprove Год назад

I was cured back in 84 when you raved about the KX 125 and how slow the RM 125 was. I had them both, you felt fast on the kx but the RM was 2 seconds a lap faster on any track. Big difference between "Feel VS real." I could never figure out why the stop watch doesn't determine the winner in a shoot out when you are selling race bikes. It should be Warm and Fuzzy Action.

@vwgtdturbo Год назад

i ride same lap times on easy hard pack track betwenn rm 125 vs rm 250

@robertrishel3685 Год назад

Mosiman was designed from the boots up to do these videos for MXA! Just terrific, every time👍

@pilsnerfamilymotorsports3275 Год назад

Id love to see a mildly modded suzuki go up against the shootout winner in 2023, would be a cool comparison

@Davido50 Год назад

Would happily buy & race (local level) a '23 RMZ250 but they are sold out like every other 250F near me! 2 local dealers have some '23 KX & CRFs coming in. No YZ250Fs or RMZ250s! All at MSRP too.

@dustin9035 Год назад

Still the best looking bikes

@andy5786 Год назад

Brilliant Josh thanks I like Suzuki RM 250 I do really like see them back raceing in competition again great videos tests 👍💯🇬🇧

@metalofthedeath Год назад

All they have to do is make two strokes again

@Davido50 Год назад

Never happen. Get a new 4-stroke an love it. Electric bikes next!

@dougfalstad5227 Год назад

A 300 two stroke would be awesome!

@metalofthedeath Год назад

They could literally just put the old two stroke engine in the new four stroke chassis and everyone would love it.

@YZ_Will Год назад

Suzuki still makes 2 stroke RM85's

@rgregleet2253 Год назад

All Suzuki needs is someone to pay a top rider to win again!!

@Runk3lsmcdougal Год назад

They wouldnt take the offer tho

@taylormuto8907 Год назад

@Duke Bonde that dinosaur beat factory bikes at a lot of races this year 😂😂

@roadlesstraveled2249 Год назад

Suzuki is the original top dawn of dirt bikes.. they don't care.. they have many championships under there belt

@realone2321 Год назад

Get behind the line old timer the future is now!!

@baykkarl9541 Год назад

I still love suzuki and will ride all day!. Love from a Honda fan

@mxriderdakar Год назад

So my guessing: ECU, engine porting, suspension, clutch, gear box, pipe, the rest is rider triangle and preferences like bar, levers etc.

@aivorebane3050 Год назад

Simple. Better 39,3HP in use, than 44 in paper.

@jamieargent7139 11 месяцев назад

Suspension is a must as any bike did mine and love it love a kick start therw.on a Lottworx headlight and I'm set

@straighttimestirrups Год назад

When was this filmed? State Fair has been closed for months!

@last_name3143 Год назад

I love Suzuki

@massy7956 Год назад

So am I.

@michellatour150 Год назад

Please list what was done to the stock RMZ250 forks, valving wise (which circuits, how many shims), spring rates etc. Thanks.

@HPRaceDevelopment Год назад

they are same kyb as a yamaha with double the valving If you valve the mid valve for .15mm float and remove some base valve shims? its quite nice.

@aivorebane3050 Год назад

springs. Thats all. Just correct rate springs and enjoy.

@PotatoeJoe69 Месяц назад

A pipe and tune makes all the difference for the Suzuki 250's. Stock, they're kinda gutless and boggy down low. They are only really in the power at the upper end of their RPM range. A pipe + tune broadens the power band MASSIVELY. It takes it from feeling like the power band on a 150, to where it should be as a 250.

@jessetrauma556 Год назад

I thought state fair mx track closed down a couple months ago

@appleSUX1 Год назад

Suzuki is a great bike, all Suzuki company has to do, put the bike on a diet and lose few pounds, increase HP/Torque,... That's it. Bike has very good handling, suspension, plastics, great price compared to other brands..... Just my thoughts on that.

@_WatsoBrii94_ Год назад

Well 2023 models come with full exhaust so that’s a plus but like everyone else said get a top 10 rider pay em good and watch what happens to banana crew!! Being a rm250 owner I dream the day they bring back big bore suk smokers shit they could for sure keep up with every other color smoker. Hop into enduro which has already been done by Austin teyler . Still the best handling and best bottom end 2 stroke ever. Only thing rms needed was better brakes. Roczen team banana 2023🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔👌🏾

@sephjfox Год назад

I've had every major brand of dirtbike and my suzuki handles the best ❤

@jeffwixon1828 Год назад

How’s the stock bike for trail riding and just off-road for an old guy?

@bradpowell843 Год назад

They are pretty good but a 300 two stroke would serve you better for that application.

@steviedee71 Год назад

@@bradpowell843 what Suzuki should be offering 125, 250, 300, 2-stroke, e-start shave little bit of wight off and kick ass again on track and in sales market and terms of offering different models.

@delzotto777 Год назад

more suzuk upgrade videos!!!

@hencetirta322 Год назад

I see yellow I click

@Owen-dw5hj Год назад

You’re responsible in part for some of Suzuki’s poor sales. When you talk about how terrible the bike is year after year I don’t know what you expect. Take it and post a lap time comparison against some of the others. Go run it with the Honda.

@MichaelAMyers1957 Год назад

All the "" shootout "" videos, are a big part in the poor sales. Far too People take those videos seriously when they're either paid for videos, or biased as it gets. People see who wins a shootout video, and then say every other bike is a Piecs of shit. Blows my mind. But it shows how ignorant actually are. 99% of folks who talk shit on Suzuki, never even rode one before.

@MichaelAMyers1957 Год назад

There was a guy who comment on a different video of 2023 Suzuki, he tried to say that a factory Suzuki, is not as good as a stock yamaha LOL.

@Owen-dw5hj Год назад

@@MichaelAMyers1957 I think I actually responded to that it was so stupid it caught my attention. Also the Suzuki is not the heaviest either.

@herbcanter2114 Год назад

@@MichaelAMyers1957 Yamaha is vastly superior .

@3rdlineplug Год назад

Just playing devils advocate, but I don’t think they’re necessarily saying it’s terrible. They are just constantly talking about how other brands have been innovating and making big changes while Suzuki has not been pushing the envelope. Neither 450/250 has changed since 2019 and MXA is a magazine that will point out flaws. The Suzuki is not a bad bike, but when you compare it to other brands, it is lacking in many areas compared to other brands. If Suzuki keeps the bike this way, they should sell it for msrp $5,500-$6,000. You’ll have an abundance of parts available and allow people like me to get back into the sport easier as a weekend warrior just going out to ride. I’ve seen some dealers running them that low and I’d be all over it to go ride again.

@Desertrider47 Год назад

Put JS7 on that bike and all these people will shut up!

@Desertrider47 Год назад

@Duke Bonde that bike for sure aint but a fast rider can.

@hammtweezy2192 Год назад

If Roczen goes to HEP Progressive Suzuki I'd expect a significant refresh for the 2024 model. I'd expect Suzuki to invest more into moto as the company attempts to bounce back.

@driftmax5180 Год назад

Best mx bikess😍

@docstomp5524 Год назад

It seems like a good deal until you figure in the amount you would have to put into it. I think the ecu can’t be flashed either so if you want a remap you need a after market ecu

@nestserau Год назад

It’s actually tuneable via an app, same as Yamaha.

@vidz1438 Год назад

Bro just dissed Dylan the whole video

@straighttimestirrups Год назад

Suzuki needs to get their shit together and concentrate on getting back to the pinnacle of 2 Stroke Technology! Keep their 4-Pukes cheap and entry level, but develop some bad ass Smokers! They would sell everyone they could build! Develop a modern 150, 250-300/ and Open bike!

@johnfryman4428 Год назад

Riding a RM450 is like dating an ugly chick.. You see the potential, so ya keep Banging away !

@tylerparker3024 Год назад

Obviously if you aren't a pro rider the bike won't make a difference on your lap time..

@genefuzer4287 2 месяца назад

Oh how we’ve come a long way. Moaning about great brakes and more than ample braking power in the grand scheme of things 😂 just not phenomenal stop on a dime brakes. I think people quickly forget how far bikes have come to moan about so many things. Not just this video but they all seem to do it. Never enough no matter how good things get 🙄