Sweden’s policy wasn’t controversial, as you begin by saying. They stuck to what was WHO pandemic plans before Covid. Every scientist pre Covid would have said you never quarantine the healthy. Covid was the first time in history the healthy have been quarantined.
Everyone is healthy until they are not... Countries like Australia who had strong Covid lockdowns lost fewer people that American states like Florida who were locked down for just 2 weeks... With similar populations Florida had 4 times ,ore deaths than Australia... Is that freedom or stupidity?
We don't have this type of event very often though, do we? Pointing to "history" isn't very helpful here. Unless you go all the way back to the spanish flu.
Similar can be said for the Great Barrington Declaration; it was not some radical, reckless new idea; it was more "let's stick to the established wisdom".
Sweden is one of the few countries who respected their citizens. Treating them like responsible adults whom are able to make their own choices about their personal health plus considering others and society at large. Way to go Sweden!
No, our government didn't have a choice. They didn't skip the lockdown because of their kind hearts, our government can't put us in lockdown because we have laws that forbids our government from doing that. They had no say in the matter.
Sweden was wonderful, the way they handled Covid. In NZ where I live, the government took away virtually ALL our civil rights, including freedom of speech. We still have not got a lot of them back, and they are now busy making new laws forbidding "hate speech" - i.e., having a different view than the government, and they are making new laws against "misinformation" and "disinformation", which is also just having a different view than the government. Freedom of speech is illegal here. This country is now totalitarian, even though we have an "election" in about a months' time.
WITHOUT A DOUBT IT IS! THE DEVASTATION FINANCIALY, PEOPLES MENTAL WELL BEING, EDUCATION ETC, ETC WAS HEAVY HANDED Also how citizens were turned against each other in Australia. Premiers of states told people not to coerce with friends in supermarkets & to tell on anyone who had visitors over. This was never about our health, it was all about seeing how far they could push!
@@hanneskarlbom6644 my take is that we don't spring to action until the hair on our ars is on fire XD its just so much easier to follow the flow rather going against it.
it wouldn't work in USA because americans cough on each other because they think it's funny lol. Europeans have higher IQ and don't try to infect each other.
The hill is total FaKe NeWs. Sweden 24,755 deaths, Norway 5,620, and Finland 10,157, clearly Sweden did worst and they still suffer inflation like all the rest of us. They were not spared any pain with their dumb decisions.
I followed Sweden closely all throughout the pandemic, they were literally 1 of only a handfull of countries that responded appropriately by giving guidance and not authoritarian rules and didnt try to brainwash their citizens with fear to make them comply. And the real powers that control the world hated Sweden for it because they were allowing freedom and common sense to rule.
As a Swede that lived in Sweden during the pandemic, life did absolutly feel a bit restricted at times but it always felt as the restrictions where because of the pandemic and never because of the government.
I agree, not very much was the same here in Sweden during Covid. I was pregnant and gave birth and my experience is very different to my friends who had kids before Covid. My husband went from working at an office every day to full work from home. But very little of it was forced. The government gave recommendations and basically everyone complied. The only thing that I felt forced to do was to actually go to work when I was heavily pregnant and scared about Covid. I work at the library and my municipality decided to keep them open as usual (few did), and pregnant people had not been identified as a risk group in Sweden (in other countries they had, but Sweden were waiting for scientific proof, basically I felt like I was a lab rat). So having a job that couldn't be done from home with bosses that didn't care about how I felt was not great, but overall the mentality was that almost everyone could and should work from home.
What are you talking about? The vaccine passports were necessary to enter several events and venues, churches, apply to certain freelance jobs and more.
@@AifosViruset Interesting, my partner also gave birth during the covid year and it was different. It was not a complicated birth though so we could leave the hospital relativly fast. But when we had our first child during non pandemic times we could leave BB, not during covid so we where stuck in a room for a couple of days. So it was a very strange experience.
Swede here, this is not true. Fear mongering was rampant, the only thing that stopped lockdowns was an old law not allowing restricting the movement of citizens.
As is typical of the Scandinavian attitude, the Swedes just used their common sense. On a whole, they were quite successful, when compared to China and Anglo-Saxon countries.
Lockdown was everything! I wasn’t locked down -- I literally had the world to myself.🎉. Omg. Beach, parks , empty freeway - less people in our essential worker site. Lots of to go drinking. The slowdown of life was great 🎉🎉
@@marymarlow3646All well and good. The globalist west used COVID to introduce E-passport and to push a drug that did not prevent you contracting COVID or it's spread. It was used as an opportunity to remove permenantly freedom. As an introvert I lock myself away, but that personal choice.
I live in Norway and travelled to Sweden thoughout most of 2020, 2021 and also 2022, all the pandemic years. I was so happy to go to the kindergarten to leave my grand kid, visit the malls and the city centres without being compelled to wear masks. The freedom I enjoyed in Sweden was such a nice experience during that "pandemic drama" time.
Not really, in Sweden you don't have much policing at all. If you go to a natural park, there are no parkrangers, no signs "forbidden this and that. You are on your own. There is no skipatrol in the mountains... you are on your own. The only exception is the sea rescue that might come if you get in to trouble. We hardly have any police force at all.
Try imagining a country where the population listens to the science and facts and want to help their fellow citizens stay healthy. You know, a country not filled with entitled babies.
Worked in the medical field as a Biomedical Tech for years before COVID-19 hit. I was harassed weekly by my boss to get my vax, but I wanted to wait. Once all the reports about heart issues associated with the vax started reaching the news I told my boss "No way" I'm already prone to heart disease just based on my genetics. The company didn't care, they mandated the vax and the company I worked for was owned by banks, not medical professionals. (money>care) It's safe to say, I never caught covid, and soon after all the craziness settled down, I quit. Now I'm a cartoonist and a writer. Not making as much money, but at least I'm out of that craziness and living my dream. 😅
Congratulations to you for taking the steps to protect your physical and mental health. I wish you every success in your future endeavor free from the corporate overlords.
@@ajwalker4416 thank you! Your words mean a lot to me. I still remember my corporate number! G05647! 🤪 You just gained my sub for your kind words. Thank you. 😁
That certainly didn't stop Justin Trudeau in Canada, He simply violated our Charter of Rights, and then evoked Marshal Law when people peacefully protested the Mandates .
Neither did ours (Netherlands) but they just overruled these laws because there was such an "extremely dangerous situation". Really made me think why we have these laws in the first place.
As a swede i can only say that i am proud of Swedens behaviour/strategy. We are calm and not used to have a goverment who tells us what to do. It open up for swedes how lucky we are when we see other countries fascism and the behavour from police. We dont, as a society, argue against the rules when we get the freedom we want and most ofthe people do as told
Pfff, not buying this... they still mandated the vax... id look at those excess death numbers again... its the lesser vaxxed countries in europe that have lowest excess deaths...this is a smoke screen
As an American I can only say I am ashamed of the American system of government, the only anti war president was murdered by our own government, his brother was murdered by our government for being an anti war candidate, all of this while the RNC and DNC practice democracy without debate, only voting for the offerings of the richest donors. If a Swiss family wanted to adopt this 67 year old American kid, I would give up citizenship and move, I fix cars, houses, food and I am great with kids!
Absolutely not the case, we did this so elderly could die because of economic reasons, it was forbidden to give the elderly oxygen and they were instead given opiates to increase their risk of suffocation
This conversation was a delight to attend to.All three participants were so intelligent , articulate, and respectful. Thoughtful questions inferred from the researchers study and conversation. You guys are great! Thanks. I had wondered about sweden's experience and now i feel well informed because you all were found such an intelligent and thoughtful swedish gentleman to thoroughly query.
Sounds like the Swedish government used logic, reason, and a touch of common sense to deal with COVID. And due to that the people trusted them and followed the guidance as best they could. Amazing concept.
common sense? sweeden covid is Deaths: 24,755 with a population of around 10 millions or about 1/35 of usa population a quick calulation if equalte to Usa population that would be over 800K deaths yes it better then the USA by not much
@@Sataka23clipsDidnt florida have the highest death rate? Im not being smart but i read that somewhere, Florida and New york had highest death rates in U.S. Also U.S had most deaths / population verses all other western nations. I think i also remember Italy had very relaxed response and they got hammered didnt they. Im not disagreeing with what Sweden did, it obviously worked for them. But their are many examples of places with the opposite effect with similar responses. Maybe i remember it wrong tho, there was a lot of disinformation going around at the time.
So basically they have a healthier society and had better outcomes? Their kids will be better off because their schools stayed open due to the virus posing virtually no threat to children.
You do realize those results factored in getting proper medical care, which wouldn't happen if you simply ignored it. Look back at what happened in China when they ignored it.
Bri supported every one of the Democrats' Covid policies, so she has to try to discredit any data which suggests that those policies were bad mistakes.
@@serrahighsfinest That is a terrible excuse. Yes, people especially politicians and reporters need to be held accountable because they had a responsibility and chose to act without reason and biased by their ideological/financial motivations.
Of course she did that's what she was paid to do and that's what she is continued to be paid to do in a sneaky way..headlines that grab the attention of those of us who knows better so now they have our attention and will try to disprove the belief in any ridiculous way they can..I am yet to see her succeed at this
Norway - 5,626 deaths Finland - 10,157 deaths Denmark - 8,792 deaths Sweden - 24,755 deaths, but the number is significantly higher as Sweden stopped reporting. Carolinska Institutet, estimate the actual number at 35,000 - 37,000. Fact is that Sweden did significantly worse than all neighbouring countries. So protecting lives by regulating society for a short while is wrong from your perspective?
When you include all Sweden's neighbours (not just the smallest and most isolated) the picture is MUCH different. Sweden had fewer COVID deaths, and fewer excess deaths, compared to the EU average. Fewer deaths, and fewer restrictions.
Lies are truth, war is peace and good is bad. You just have to say these things with conviction and people will believe any nonsense peddled.@@KarlFrups
Sweden has a society that are not rule breakers with a lot of common sense. It showed during the Covid crisis. Bravo Sweden the land of my ancestors! ♥
We have a strong culture of personal responsibility for others. We are far from perfect though. This kind of culture has been slowly dying away, with a growth in racism and neoliberalism.
@@MegaBanne I understand what you are saying and it's sad, is it not? But my take on it is that it's not actually racism per se, but rather an overwhelming frustration. Being of Swedish descent I grew up with the culture of doing for others and adhering to the rules of a structured society...Tack så mycket!!
A country that is under control does not need restrictions. They don't have more common sense than any other country. It's just they are under control.
@@lindaberg1695 Indeed, two administrations allowed catapstrophic migration from the 3rd world into our country and the result is that our socialconservative anti-immigration eu-skeptic country is the 2nd party now which alot of power. They basically have forced all the other parties to try and copy their hardline migration policies. The people have seen a near-utopia become a country with gang crime never seen before due to migration, of course there's a lot of frustration.
@@LyricalSteeler Thanks for the information. I was unaware that things had changed so much in Sweden. Here in Canada it has changed so much as well. I live in Vancouver BC and there are gang shootings on the streets every week it seems and the problem is never solved. It's horrible what has happened and what our politicians have allowed...It breaks my heart to know it is happening in Sweden too, if I had been able to, I would have returned to live in my ancestral homeland long ago to get out of Canada and to a better place. Sadly it doesn't seem to be the haven it once was. It makes me sad & it makes me angry...I don't know what the solution is but this mass immigration to our countries has to stop before our countries cease to exist and become just another underdeveloped country where violence is the norm.
@@Jondoe-lb8id9ms1v They have all the agenda2030 thing in their country. That's why they could avoid all the restrictions. Even the video is promoted by their own government.
Not true, Sweden is not cashless. It's one of the biggest lies about Sweden that i hear few times per year, fascinating how widespread that lie is. The digital ID is true but it's a good thing as far as i'm concerned. Is used for banking nd safe purchases online etc. They haven't used it in any nerfarious way so far. Another widespread lie is that many Swedes have chips in our hands, but the number that have such a chip was 30k out of our 11 million population the last time i checked. The lie originated because we have a major chip manufacturer in our country that does great internet PR about their products.@@peterp4037
Sweden, took the pandemic seriously. The government and the health department reported the statistics and issued recommendations to the public. We the people in Sweden took the pandemic seriously, we followed the recommendations and then some. We seized all social activities, we maintained our social distances(even greater than we usually do). we used sanitizers and soap constantly and we used masked when it was appropriate and when vaccinations became available we signed up.
To Swedish people were given the right to choose! That is what we all want! Having the right information every single one of us can take the right decision. Congratulations to Sweden!
Two civilian Covid guards (useful idiots), an older man and a young woman (Here in Kristinehamn, Sweden) tried to stop me from passing their GATES so I couldn't get in to Vårdcentralen (Health care center), I told them to move or else and they did. I haven't let anybody test me for Covid (MOST SWEDES HAVE COMPLIED AND DONE THAT, AND PAID FOR IT) and never have I worn a muzzle, so called face mask. "Every dictatorship is based on altruism." -Ayn Rand
Yeah I live in Nashville Tennessee and actually we did not follow covid protocols and a lot of people died probably because of the metabolic disease that plagues this country. People weren’t exactly acting “responsible” here even though they had the freedom to either. Let’s not forget that the health outcomes of American in the pandemic were a lot different because of our relationship to processed food.
I visited my relatives in Sweden in October 2020. And got sensored out of my account on LinkedIn after sharing pictures and telling what we saw there. Grandparents hugging their grandkids, full lunchrooms and restaurants, no mass masking and just a minority of people social distancing, no people in a fearmongered state. My nephew hasn't missed one day of school and wasn't threatened into being injected.
Andrew Tate fled to Sweden during Covid as well, which he told Tucker Carlson about in their recent interview. Thousands from Europe did so as well. Hotels struggling during covid here in Sweden was very happy to have them during those times.
@@RicardoMartinez-oh9sq Well this whole shitshow was illegal everywhere basically. In the Netherlands the court ruled that the evening curfew was unlawful, so the government changed the law within a few hours. Democracy factually does not exist anymore.
Sweden actually "followed the science". They followed their own path which was the correct one. They essentially followed similar steps to those outlined in the Great Barring Declaration.
Science: Covid is airborne. And the number of deaths in Sweden is expected to reach several tens of thousands if the virus is allowed to spread freely. Swedish govt: Covid is not airborne. And masks are dangerous. And we don't believe the death estimates from the scientists.
I was in Sweden during the pandemic 8 times. I never saw a single person with a mask, even old people did not wear masks. I am not vaccinated and nobody cared. I could take part in social life as usual while in Germany i was treated like an outcast and developed a deep depression from the lockdowns and isolation and because I was not allowed to work and earn money.
You never hear anyone mention the other casualties of covid lockdowns: lost businesses, kids abused ftom schools being shut down for long periods of time, and suicides. Just to mention a few.
I visited Sweden in October 2020, for a breath of freedom. So unlike Italy where I live - similar to Germany I think - where, later, I couldn't even get on local bus. And was sent a €100 fine
I'm swedish, I used mask a few times but only inside a store or on a bus, not outside. Can't understand why people had to wear it outside abroad, it was only to keep the distance when you were outside. Then seems like no-one abroad learned to use the mask, you can't touch it, if you do that and there are some viruses on the mask the likelihood to be contaminated that way it's high, we learned thet from our health department. Thats why we didn't have a mask mandate, they didn't think we could manage that correctly ;-)...
Thank you Sweden people for your patriotism, inteligence, respect, unity, freedom and responsability between each other as part of citizens and as member of government.
He's so right about Sweden - they didn't stray from the Pandemic protocols, but the rest of the world did. The USA has had these protocols in place even before the Influenza outbreak of 1918. That is the question politicians should be asking is why the USA strayed from these policies.
I get what you’re saying and don’t disagree, just that Sweden had over 24,000 Covid related deaths. By comparison New Zealand had a similar number of cases but less than 5000 deaths in large part due to the lockdowns etc. What are lives worth ?
@@cspace1234nz Average age of people dying from covid i think was 81 years old. The issue was in big part that the elderly care homes were underfunded and overburdened. My ex worked in elderly care during that time and the precautions and resources were completley unacceptable. Some bosses allowed visits from friends and families and some didn't. Some bosses had designated "covid personell" that only handled covid patients and nothing else, didn't even eat in the same room as the other workers, while some bosses would have you go from one covid patient to a healthy person without second thought.
@@korpen2858 .....yepe, the rest home situation was one of the ghastly aspects of the pandemic, my partner was unable to visit her elderly mother for ages and as we know many people essentially died alone just through natural causes and nobody could visit them prior. I didn't know the average age was 81 but I do know the average age of people in hospital with covid was just over 60 years. And that was the real problem here in NZ. I believe at the start there was only something like 40-50 ICU beds in the entire country and even now still way less than 200. Add to that there were no extra trained ICU personnel so they couldn't simply set up more. I wonder now if it all happened again whether things would be any different. I don't think so somehow. From a more personal perspective, as a medical professional who fro 30 odd years has worked in respiratory health (I essentially teach people how to breathe correctly) there are vast numbers of people who have damaged lungs from Covid, of all ages. Much of this damage came about prior to vaccines being available. They talk about 'long covid', from my point of view this is a major part of the reason why. People are unable to breathe properly and due to the nature of the damage of the lungs may never breathe fully and properly again. My point is that whilst I hate government intervention on anything, I hate the idea of vaccinations and all the rest of it, I think our government got it about right, as ghastly as the whole business has been. To have let it run rampant would never have worked, our health system can't even handle normal every day stuff, as we well know.
Why was Sweden able to maintain its political independence and break from what seemed like a globally mandated psyop? Aren't they part of the EU? Very curious. Also, Spotify is based there and they also seem to not be caving into the consensus narratives or censorship.
No they're not. They're not EU. Yes they are EU according to a Wikipedia page. Uh oh. That's why have medical independence, and definitely hopefully won't have vaccine passports. Yipee I'd love to go to Sweden. They also have much more abundantly, AB blood types. If not for detrimental exterior effects, influences, pressures on Sweden, they're going the right way about the country. They're as if mentally naturally within reasonable arguments, a libertarian well being ALWAYS prioritized socialism system. They're sane. SANE. Period.
Sweden and to a lesser extent the other Nordic countries have managed to avoid the psychotic post-2014 slide into technocratic authoritarianism the rest of the establishment left parties in the Western world did. I’m no Sweden expert but guessing there’s a lot of factors in play. The deepest lunacy is in the establishment left of the English speaking nations. The deepest lunacy on a lot of things is on the English speaking nations. I like to joke it’s because early 2010’s Tumblr was written in English.
This is I think the most important question. They are doing something right over there that keeps corruption more at bay. We need some of what they've got.
I travel to Sweden two or three times a year. Why are you guys not focused on things like the Swedish government encouraged people to take vitamins and get some sun outdoors. People went hiking and swimming. Masking was never enforced so bacterial infections that mine and other countries suffered from mask wearing didn't happen.
Liar. NO they pushed The "Vaccines" HARD. THEY COUNTED OBIDIENT PEOPLE AT BEACHES 2021 and how many Who went to their vacation homes at Easter 2020.They TRACKED AND TRACED PEOPLE. LENA HALLENGREN. I however with my open strong beliefs was NEVER TRACED to get The Clot shot.
Yes Bri, we are very different from Sweden in many ways…You know like the US locking down unless you were “peacefully” protesting with hundreds of thousands of people packed together in the streets.
I do appreciate the swedish way of handling the pandemic. Living and working here. Working at preschool so we were open throughout the pandemic. I was the first to get covid at my workplace. No one panic. Just carried on with what the guidelines stated. I can't imagine facing a pandemic any other way. Bravo Sweden!
@@LobsterwithinternetSeriously? A "common sense approach" to a virus that kills less than 0.1% of healthy people under 60 is to weld people's apartment doors shut so they can't leave?
Any virologist not on the take would tell you, protect the vulnerable, however, there is frankly no stopping an airborn virus from running through the population. AKA heard immunity is an inevitability. AMerican leaders were not following anything but money and power. @@Theonetruegod-hw2ei
@@pmh9966 maybe you should go read Gates notes from 2018 about needing an international body to control gene therapy man. Ever hear of eugenics? That's what this is.
@@pmh9966 The wrong with "universal", is centralisation and uniformity. The wrong with centralisation is, you never allow the rich variety of approach and thus you never have the opportunity to learn from differences while you´re suffocating the creativity of different solutions. Humans are creative in many different ways... You must allow that to learn from it...
@@cassiescornerreviews6884 Explain how you can use anything other than excess deaths as an indicator. There is no universal way to count a "covid death"
My brother was living in Sweden back then (and still owns a house there) and he is the only one in the family (a family of five) who didn’t get the rona. So Bri can pipe it. She was wrong, our governments were wrong, and there is absolutely no shame in admitting that Bri. Lets grow up!
Keeping elementary schools open has another aspect: mental and physical health. For many children, the school lunch (which is free in Swedish schools) is the only good meal they get in a day and for others, the school may be a safe haven away from an unhealthy home environment. It was determined by scientists and politicians that closing the schools would be bad for children, not only for the grades but for these reasons as well.
Bri is more than happy to point to Sweden as a model to follow for their "great free healthcare", but then questions their Covid policies because Sweden's population is different in a lot of ways from the US. Which is it? Can we use Sweden as a model example or not?
As usual Comrade Bri relies more on her socialist ideology than to the facts. The facts are that healthcare systems had almost nil to do with preventing or treating Covid. I’m a physisian and our tools were useless. And we had everything the Swede’s had, if not more. But they used prudence and took up the vaccine with a vengeance.
A case can be a positive example in some ways and a negative example in others? The surrounding Nordic states have similar healthcare models, yet pursued drastically different Covid policies (which, by the way, all produced far fewer deaths than Sweden’s approach)
She was just pointing out that there are many factors that effect outcome. We are very different from Sweden in many ways. So what works in one country may not work here. It's not black and white. Nuance is important.
Pfff, not buying this... they still mandated the vax... id look at those excess death numbers again... its the lesser vaxxed countries in europe that have lowest excess deaths...this is a smoke screen
I never locked down or wore the mask inside or outdoors unless a business enforced it. Being outside, getting exercise & fresh air, keeping your vitamin D levels up, in my opinion, was the more effective way to stay healthy and beat covid unless you are in a high risk group(obesity, weak immune system, respiratory issues, elderly).
@@cassiescornerreviews6884What do you mean “back in reality”? He just gave HIS reality and experiences and they were as valid as anyone else’s. And do you really believe the “published data” on American c19 deaths? I am sure medical malpractice and medical ignorance killed just as many as the virus did. Especially among the ALREADY chronically ill people that were disproportionately present in the US population.
@@cassiescornerreviews6884you are so sadly misinformed. Dig around the cdc website. They’ve finally admitted the death tolls quoted were largely actually due to other causes and unrelated to COVid.
The point about not politicizing national guidelines/advice should be self-evident in any healthy, sane and genuinely democratic society, as should not putting a political spin on scientific evaluations of efficacy, or gagging the concerns of accredited scientists and doctors. The pandemic made it very clear just how very few genuinely sane societies exist in the world.
To this date, the official position of the swedish government is that covid is not an airborne disease. The rest of the world proved scientifically really early that covid is airborne. So, no, science had nothing to do with the swedish policy.
As a Swede , I’d like to ad that one of the biggest reasons to the high death numbers in the first 6-12 months was the work schedules for caretakers in the elderly healthcare facilities and retirement homes. Many senior citizens have already existing health issues with low grade immune system. Authorities went full steam ahead to adjust it as fast as possible. Unfortunately , despite the heroic work efforts of all healthcare workers , it took a little time to get up and running. Once in place , the numbers dropped.
Sweden won!!! I live in Spain and Spain along with Italy suffered the most BRUTAL restrictions that I can think of in Europe. Our current governement, PSOE, should be desposed, kicked out of power because of all the havoc they wreaked during the Franco-stlye lock down. In Spain we weren't even allowed to go outside and excercise take walks. We were trapped in our tiny flats. Only one person per family could go to the supermarket. I lost my job and was given little no compensation for nearly 7 months. My parents sent me me money. I was one of the lucky ones. I was living in Madrid at the time....the police went around patroling the streets in civilian clothes to try to catch you. I got stopped 3 times. We couldn't even leave our cities. They gave out fines if were caught outside for no reason. Spanish families are big and they live in small flats. People had to go outside. Not surprisingly, the poorer areas of Madrid were the areas the got the most fines.
@@allytay208cheaper than what ud pay for insurance, medical costs, college, etc through private market. Having inelastic necessities and human rights dependant on market fluctuations is a recipe for disaster.
Not only that, their health care survival rate is actually worse than the US when it comes to serious diseases such as cancer. When they tried to increase taxes and add UBI, etc. Their economy tanked and their GDP went down, so did quality of life. They had to reverse policies and go less heavy on their social programs.
@@allytay208 right, like how it is here, except the money goes to basic human needs rather than insurance companies, corporations, or a vast military industrial complex.
We have this weird thing here in Sweden, where we, for the most part, trust our government. We believe that the want what's best for us and they feel they can trust the citizens to do good choises. I'm happy to be living in a country where the government aren't seen as the enemy. We work together.
Sweden in general has less corruption than many other countries. In many countries people do right not to trust their government. Any respect given to the government needs to be earned. I lost a lot of respect for the Swedish government later in the pandemic when they started with vaccine passports and medical segregation, saying that citizens should be on the look out for unvaccinated and so on. It takes time to earn respect but you can lose it pretty quickly. The sooner Sweden reconciles with the witch-hunt for unvaccinated and apologies for this overstep the sooner they can have some of my respect back. I lost my job, two friends and two relatives in that period, they all were all emboldened and in a state of fear by the state and media messaging and thought that any unvaccinated was dangerous or worse, unsolidaric, and should be excluded from polite society. I got the see the dark side of the Swedish trust in the government as well.
The excess deaths measure is comparing the own countries excess deaths. That means that factors such as obecity etc is already factored in. You aren't comparing the swedish population to the us population. You are comparing the US pop to the US pop and the Swedish pop to the Swedish pop. Im a swede, but i must say that sweden having a healthier population is a non-factor in that exquation.
@Tara-Maya the age was the primary factor. If the age increased by 7 the risk doubled. So if you compare a 60 year old to a 74 year old the risk is 4x, quadruple for the 74 year old. This means that the risk for kids is insignificant and the risk for 80 year olds are(were) much higher. Conpare a 10 year old vs a 80 year old and the risk is 1024 times higher for the 80 year old. This was known early on yet for some unknown reason the narrative was that it was dangerous for everyone.
@@Tara-Maya Thats not exactly true when you look at the majority of the undeveloped world who typically have the worst mortality (i.e health) in the world, yet faired the best against C19. There are other reasons why the U.S faired terrible
weden like norway and iceland...ingle racial cultures...that is how they become healthy wealthy and wiser..not wasting money oin silly excuses like midnight basketball.
No it is the other way. We accept high taxes and following the rules, as long as we belive that the government is benificial to us. We belive it is common sense to pool our money for health care, child care and to care for the elderly, and much more. A sociaty needs rules to function. As long as they are sensible and fair most people follow them. And if you don't you are quite frowned upon...
As a swede. We social distanced a lot. I was heartbroken when I had symptoms two years in a row over Christmas. I stayed home, I didn't put people at risk, especially my elderly relatives. We stayed home from work and keep our children home as soon as we had any kind of symptom. It was hard, it was surreal. Sure I'm happy we didn't have to stay home at all times but it was not easy. Lets not forget this.
Thank you for this interview! We need to rub this video’s information into the faces of our Congress members and other power elites. “Long live Sweden” seems a more easily realized slogan than “Long live America!”
LOVE the emphasis on the long term affects this could have on children. In the states, so many kids are suffering with not only socialization issues but basic education and training.
Bri still in denial about what happened during the age of the great virus hysteria of 2020? She seems to have no ability to admit that she was wrong, and that she was fooled.
When everyone else in a leadership position lost their freaking minds, thank goodness Sweden showed how ill informed and panic driven the lockdowns were.
Most Swedes actually looked at what was happing in other countries and couldn't believe how mad the world reacted. Just the fact that you where not allowed to go out whenever you wanted. Even now it's sound totally crazy.
Sweden was/is the silver thread of sanity and rationality that kept/keeps many of us from losing hope in the idea of honest, rational, skillful governance during these dark years of the Covid 19 response. Very intelligent, gracious guest. He was very generous and skillful in fielding Brihana’s comments-phrased-as-questions. Thank you
If, like Briana says, obesity increases the risk of getting seriously ill from covid (which is true), then why would you want to implement policies (lockdown) that are guaranteed to make people more obese? The failure of lockdown apologists to see the big picture is mind-blowing.
Exactly. I was exercising 2-3 times a week before lockdowns, which put an end to all that. Lockdowns made me and other young people less healthy... just to *potentially* save a few lives of people who are already sick and going to leave within the next few years?
Yep, I had to cancel my gym membership because it was closed for over a year, and I gained weight. Only finally started going back this year (coz good habits are easy to lose and hard to get back). Not to meantion how many people didn't go to the hospital to get cancer screenings or the like, and this were diagnosed late? How many turned to drugs? How much knock-on effects did the damage to the economy have in health and safety? Liberty advocates were right again, but as always no one listens when they are scared.
I love how this video is all about the fact that the Swedes followed the pandemic playbook, while almost every other governement and health agency did not. And that at the very top of the comments, we see an alert from Google (RU-vid) telling us, "Get the latest infrom from the CDC about COIVD-19..." Why exactly shoudl we do this? I mean, if they are going to direct us to anyone, should not we be sent to view the Swedish Center for Disease Control?
Love his first comment We weren’t the odd ones. We followed the pandemic playbook. The rest of you threw out the playbook and did something unplanned and completely novel.
A similar approach was adopted in Nicaragua, along with an intensive door-to-door health education campaign by volunteer "brigadistas." The excess death rates in Nicaragua were lower than other countries in Central America.
Very well said "Sweden didn´t act controversially, other countries did". And I will never understand, why isolate children when they have almoust 100% survival rate? I live in Sweden and I heard only about a person dying from this virus in Malmö and one in Stockholm the whole 3 years. I also heard about many who caught it, but nothing serious, they recovered pretty soon after. Strange, they never said to have had any breathing difficulties either (!) Myself, I never caught it and I never wore a mask nor anything. Did isolate myself a little only in the beginning (when I didn´t understand what was going on), but later when I saw the huge amount of survival registered cases and never new anyone who died, I dropped that too. Never caught anything, only twice in a couples of hours felt fever (I guess due to isolation and not being in the Sun), but took some vitamins and got all over it.
tell me you don't understand virology, nearly 25000 people died in Sweden, are you happy? far higher than Norway or Denmark children might have a better survival rate but they are major spreaders of most diseases, you need to understand how diseases spread, it's not always about you it's the people you give it to that might be elderly or immunocompromised. Not closing school would have lead to a massive increase in cases and therefore more deaths.
@@neonwired4978 - Well, it didn´t lead to any massive increase in cases; and not even close to. I live here, I would have seen and heard. In 3 years, as mentioned I´ve heard about only of 2 elderly people that died from c vid, and as said only heard. Don´t ever expect me to rely on the registration data done over this plandemonic! And not to mention to trust Fauci what he claims diseases spread!
@@neonwired4978isn’t there a problem with the fact that everyone that died and had covid was counted like a death by covid eventhough they died in for example a car crash? Every single dead person got tested and if they had vovid they registered the death as covid.
@@neonwired4978 The vast Majority of those deaths were in the elder care because we were a bit too late with the procedures to protect those facilities and people, on top of that the elder care was over burdened already before Covid struck. On top of that there was a bunch of legal issues with preventing friends and family to visit elder homes due to our constitutional laws, it had to be voted to give the government extended emergency power to ignore that law temporarily. Swedish constitutional laws also forbids these kinds of lockdowns in general as our freedom of movement is protected in them so even if we wanted to we wouldn't have been able to go full lockdown. Elderly and immunocompromised were also the first people that got access to the vaccine once it had been approved to ensure their safety. So as you can see the situation was much more complicated than "not doing lockdown causes deaths", instead of letting politicians get all riled up and panicked we listened to the scientists and virology experts, you know the ones that actually knows how illnesses works. Yes its a shame that many people died but I don't think a lockdown would have prevented them here due to how unprepared and underfunded the eldercare was.
@@neonwired4978 Not true. Sweden had lower excess death rate than Noway and Denmark if you combine 2020, 2021 and 2022. If you supported lockdown you supported higher death rate that is a fact.
Define "controversial". Sweden followed a much more appropriate course of action and did much more to protect the rights of their citizens. Everyone else did it wrong, obviously. This was obvious given the trampling of rights that occurred, and even more obvious given the lack of effectiveness of the policies that became clear within a very short period of time.
Alaska had established laws that made lockdowns and isolation a crime and punisible for anyone doing such things of $500/day. They had plans for such things for a long time. But when covid hit they followed orders from the federal bureaucracies, and in order to violate the established laws the legislature declared an emergency where they could suspend all laws and codes they break. Nullifying rule of law. If that wasn't bad enough, when that expired the governor did it for another year. Gave himself unrestrained power to do anything. Did the media object, or was there any public outcry. The media went along and the outcry was silenced.
Very much appreciate this interview. Early on during the pandemic I asked our school district San Diego Unified what they are planning to do in order to prepare schools for opening again, i.e. have UV lights placed in A/C ducts, UV lights in hallways, air purifier in classrooms. Now, years after the schools still have not done these minimal but most effective improvements. Why? They received so much money, blew it on all sorts of foolishness, but bureaucracy kills all of the truly important and effective improvements, because the bureaucrats are weak lazy cowards who just worry about a paycheck the easiest way possible.
Huge respect to the Swedish government Who didn't sell out there countrymen. Can only presume the Swedish media backed there government and used a balanced approach to the COVID pandemic. Puts our government officials,MPs and press to shame. All we had was over reaction and panic. So called experts in the medical profession sold there souls and still don't accept responsibility. Britain is still paying the price for there mistakes, be it misjudgement or corruption.
There a few journalists in a few media outlets in the Swedish mainstream that early on seemed quite eager for Sweden to jump on the authoritarian lockdowns bandwagon, but i'd say the majority of the press were level-headed and quite supportive of the governments approach. Later on in the pandemic there was almost no loud domestic critics in our media towards the governments covid policies. There was political consensus for the most part as well, mostly because majority of the population didn't want lockdowns or more restrictions so there was no point in going against the coalition in power.
Swedes locked themselves down and many wore masks volountarily. Some screamed for harder restrictions.... I never wore a mask, comute as usual to work in my store and lived as usual and never got sick. Sweden is a country where most people have a huge trust in the media and governement. AND when it comes to the excess deaths in the beginning it could be explained by two factors, we had a very mild influensaseason the year before and we did not treat the vounorouble elderly very good at all, the treatment they got were midozalam and venrilators..... the outcome speaks for itself. We also implemented vaccinepassports in bigger events and gatherings. People who choose not to vaccinate were frownd upon and called various names. One good thing though was that noone could get fired for not getting vaccinated
@@jacekplacek5411 I live in Sweden so I did see it first hand. And went by train to work everyday. As soon as the government recommended people to wear mask in public places during the second wave, people did. The clips you refer to was from the summer in 2020 I guess? Then there were no recommendation to wear masks.
@@janette7330 This can vary between different cities in Sweden. Do you live in one of the three big cities? I believe there were alot more masks in those cities compared to my town(50k citizens as comparison). In my town it was... maybe 10% wearing masks.
Of course Briahna would never publicly support Sweden's anti-lockdown Covid-19 policy. Bri isn't as smart as she thinks she is--the successful results of Sweden's anti-lockdown policy speaks for itself.
@@cassiescornerreviews6884 what studies have shown that stopping people from going to parks and beaches saved lives? Or closing schools? Or letting infected vaxxed people eat in restaurants but not uninfected unvaxxed people? Or closing small businesses but not large ones? Or stopping cancer treatments and diagnosis?
@@cassiescornerreviews6884they did countless etudies in the eighties. Lives are linked to the economy. Thr cdc wrote in 2013 there was no science based on lockdowns and they were only used for power grabs. In the first 6 weeks they destroyed the economy by 27 percent. For every one percent you get a two percent rise in chronic illness rates. It was a scam.
@@cassiescornerreviews6884 You don't need any study to see Sweden was right. In order to justify putting the whole country under house arrest for years, you need a very dangerous, very clear (and verifiable by third parties) threat that FOR CERTAIN will be prevented by the extra-judicial house arrest of innocent people. You cannot justify using the police against innocent, regular people like that even if you can find a study that shows people in their 80s get to live 3.2 months longer. Most of whom would never trade those months for the chance to spend their last years alive with their grandchildren. If Sweden didn't obviously have many huge negatives effects compared to other countries (it didn't. At all.) it shows the lockdowns elsewhere were completely unjustified and highly illegal.
The Swedish people just like US citizens can discuss and debate all they like. Covid-19 (WHO) information bubbles appearing on posts you make on social media about Covid-19 does not make censorship. Sweden top-down ordered the culling of the elderly and immunocompromised. This video is what US media usually does with Sweden: Abuse facts to prove capitalist nihilism, xenophobia or class oppression is smart and good making Sweden out to be either role model or self-threatened. I've just heard patients in the US describe cancer wards removing masking signs. Is the pandemic over? Did all these cancer patients suddenly get cured too? World clinical and political establishment still has not arrived at a communicated acknowledgement that Covid-19 is aerosolised; airborne. Young HCWs are right now being allowed to believe in droplet transmission. Smoking is unpermitted in Swedish hospitals; what do you think about it? Draconian? Please discuss and debate. 1 in 10 out of every (re)infection results in Long Covid (all age groups). Read Eric Topol 'A reinfection red flag' (a quick free read on substack).
I would bet Sweden does not have talk radio and endless cable opinion shows on politics, that they have a goverment that is respected and that the bulk of the population is educated and understanding of science and of the advice of experts, and that they also have a good ability to disregard grifters.
