Swedens’s Iconic High-Speed Train! Is the X2000 Still Good 25 Years Later? 

Indeed and it looks great! Also mentioned in the video from 9:35 😄

And whats more that work include a fair bit of replacing and reorganization of the wiring... They basically blows out the power unit and replaces wiring.

@@Simon-Andersen Oh sorry, it seems that I missed that part😅

Well they should focus solely on renovating the interiors. X2000 and X3000 have lousy seating for what they are. Trips longer than 90 minutes are a pain, hard seating, uncomfortable upholstery and poor luggage space. Even those times when you splurge on a first class ticket you don't get anything worthwhile extra for that except complimentary water and coffee/tea. The seats are still lousy and yet in many cases it's double the price of a normal ticket to buy a first class one, and that cost increase doesn't factor in that your route might require you to switch to other carriers for regional trains or busses, which don't even have first class accommodations.

@@OB1canblowme funny, i regularly travel X2 to Stockholm - and i like the seating. I agree on the luggage side - but when it hits it when i travel for work - i have travelled with my own packaging, a IKEA bag for my work clothing and a backpack for tools.... And that is done when i'm away working on railway signalling eq.... multiple of my colleagues uses a car instead.... Hehe try entering Stocholm city with that type of luggage - the entry gates is narrow.....

If I remember and not be mistaken, the main Göteborg bus station is named after him, pretty cool to know about his legacy

Coolt! Jag vill bli lokförare med! :)

It looks amazing, I can't wait try one at some point

Yeah. Sweden also has plans in the work called "Nya Stambanor" or "New Mainlines". These would be a brand new high speed rail network that would cut down journey times dramatically and make room for both more express trains between the cities, as well as more local and freight trains on the existing routes. However the plans have been put on hold by the current right wing government for frankly stupid reasons. And there are debates as to whether the speed of the new lines should be 320km/h as originally envisioned, or 250km/h which is slower but only marginally cheaper, and as such likely not giving the same returns on investment. But thats not all. Sweden has been progressively upgrading the Västkustbanan between Malmö and Gothenburg for high speed standards at speeds of 200-250km/h. And in Northern Sweden, the Botniabanan and Norrbotniabanan havee both been vital projects under various stages of completion to have a 250km/h high speed line to the far north of the country. Additionally there's also other proposals around like projects for 250km/h trains from Stockholm to Oslo, and upgrades between Gothenburg and Oslo. I too hope all of these projects come to fruition and can benefit both domestic and international travellers across Scandinavia. However it all depends on politics sadly.

@@drdewott9154 Do you have any idea how expensive it is to build?

@@oyuyuy II do but thr value you get in return is super high

@@drdewott9154 The cost is much higher. I'll put it in numbers for you, the cost is 25,000-50,000 SEK per Swedish tax payer. It is enormously expensive.

@@oyuyuy That actually ain't so bad given the cost of other infrastructure projects like the highways

I never rode in it, but I remember seeing it serving the Kowloon-Guangzhou through train in Hong Kong.

That's my first favourite train ever😍😍😍

Awesome, thank you!

I already have! Its filmed with my old camera tho :-) ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-I9SlWCMkNu0.htmlsi=bg-PLnMFc8OF4wI3

I would assume this was the start of the BM73 unit which came a few years after which also have tilting.

Yes! 😄

@@Simon-Andersen 😄It was the perfec English paired with the pronounciation of Skövde and Göteborg😁

sGövde. Love it just like my finnish friends say it

Yeah I don't know what is cheaper. Building new track or developing a train that can drive quicker on old lines haha

I traveled in 1st class last summer which had its tilting funtion broken and they went full speed at first it was quite something I can tell you.

I used to work at SJ, in Hagalund's depot. In the first years that happened much more often than now, and you could watch the train arriving, slightly tilting, and having a rhythmic sway 😂. Another thing about that system is that the cars measured the load to calculate the tilting maneuver (at least they did!) and when that didn't work properly, sometimes it could tilt badly. I reckon these were childhood illnesses mostly, but of course, things can always malfunction 😅 (The weight measurement system was humorously called "kärringräknare", not exactly translatable, but something like 'old (and ugly) women calculator'😂)

They were popular on the NEC and were the best train for the role of the Acela service but Asea/ABB (which was at the time still independent of Bombardier) did not have the financing resources that the Bombardier LRC with Alstom TGV cars which Amtrak purchased. All thanks to the Canadian ExIm bank!

That's not entirely correct. There are two types of internal door systems, the doors themselves look the same, but they function differently. The older system, from Dowald, has a functioning button, but the system is kind of unreliable and those doors are usually really slow. The newer system, from IFE, has sensors and a faux button. This system is more reliable and has way faster doors.

@@Rodoeht12345 then i never seen the older system. I just use to take ny hand close to the sensor. It react faster than at the buton.

​@@matsv201Yeah, the newer system is more common, they have infrared sensors above the "buttons"

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Same deal with the Swedish mostly. DB has good prices if you book in advance just like SJ. I have a 61 euro ticket in first from Copenhagen via Hamburg Magdeburg Wuppertal to Eindhoven booked with DB :)

Ja det sker super ofte de slutter toget i Malmö hvis der bare er det mindste galt

(Platform 10 is not reserved for Gothenburg)

No there is plenty of meat on my dish, but you can if you want to :p

Sabbath 😅

Apparently not in Sweden 😆

look at this sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholmst%C3%A5g it was

​@@tha_tram_manI mean that underground railway station known as "Stockholm City" 🐸

Assuming by "stag" you mean "stad", it is because in Swedish "city" is used to refer to the what you in British English call a city centre, or downtown in American English.

@@DodoGTA sorry it lookt like stockholmståg

SJ doesn't use Stockholms City (the underground commuter station) because of three things: no capacity for long distance train down there the platforms has security doors between carriage and passengers to prevent people from entering the track (and so the station restricts pretty hard what can use it it) grades in northward direction - a X2 is built for high-speed and the traction isn't really there at low speed.

No I don't have any issues in tilting trains but it seems to vary alot from person to person

No attempt was made to sound like a swede :p Thanks for the correction on the mergers

But they dont tilt, so the x2000 still gets a journey time advantage as long as sweden keeps having curvy track.

Yeah well except my flight to stockholm was late, but this train was 7 min early xd

Do you live in Sweden? Have you travelled on a X2000? Have you watched the video? This train was introduced 30 years ago and is still running operational today and even sold to other countries such as China and The US. For its time being manufactured I’d say it’s pretty state of the art and still is state of the art based on its capabilities, such as the tilting mechanism.

It was pretty state of the art the titling system it used when introduced. Sure the technology is older with the APT in the UK but how did that go again? You really only started seeing the technology actually mature and be reliable around the mid 80s early 90s 😀

@@Simon-AndersenSure you got a point but compared to many other countries except for dominant countries such as Japan the X2000 was pretty good at its time of initial production

Not to mention, in 2012 SJ was getting back its chinese X2000 to Uddevalla hamn. And later it got into the railway museum in Gävle for some reason.

@@Nationalbussen221 yes SJ got the unit back from China, with a intent of using it to allow them a bit of breating room with regards to utilization of the fleet. I believe the driving unit became the prototype for the current rebuilding. I viewed the interior in the driver read end unit - it was a fair amount of mold on the inside...

The Chinese X2000 also served the Hong Kong to Guangzhou border-crossing intercity service known as the "through train". However, through trains have been suspended since COVID-19 pandemic started, and the high-speed rail from Shenzhen to West Kowloon Station replaced its role afterwards. I believe the official "end of service" announcement is highly likely in near future. It is because through train services cause a huge disruption on KCR East Rail (or East Rail Line as of today, I still prefer the former name) with their slow acceleration when compared to the original Metro-Cammell-manufactured and Alstom-refurbished EMUs, and later the SP1900 manufactured by Kawasaki Heavy Industries and Kinki Sharyo. Most importantly, these Chinese trainsets are not compatible with Siemens Trainguard MT, which is installed in KCR East Rail and commenced into service in 2021. Officially ending the through train services will allow MTR to retire the outdated British Rail AWS after 40 years.

​@@RicciChoi1109 The official "end of service" announcement of the "through train" on conventional rail was just made days ago. Regional through-train service was already replaced previously, and in the new announcements the long distance sleeper through-train services (Z99 to Shanghai and Z97 to Beijing) are replaced with new HSR sleeper night train services (D909 to Shanghai and D907 to Beijing), operated with CRH2E HSR sleeper EMUs. Travel time is almost cut in half, and MTR no longer needs to reserve a timetable slot for these two services (even though they're not operated since 2020). The new services are quite nice, because now one can actually get on the sleeper train at night and wake up in Hong Kong the next morning.

Ah yeah I could have made that more clear as you don't get the regular X2000 services to Gothenburg starting from those

@@Simon-Andersen yeah, I understand. Even though I often travel between Stockholm and Uppsala, I would probably also forget those northbound tracks if I were to describe Stockholm C 😅

​@@toddetoddelito9959 Those tracks were commonly (at least by SJ employees) called "Uppsala-spåren", 'the Uppsala tracks', long ago (eighties - nineties).

Thanks for the kind words :D

Intresting, its fun how new trains often get a bad rep but then later it turns out just fine

So bummed that the US never decided to adopt these for Amtrak. Oh well, the Acelas are pretty awesome in their own right.

Not that modern right now but it will be

@@Musta0011 bruh… with modern I mean fully electrical locomotives built after 1990. My favourite kind of locomotives are sadly almost never built anymore. Damn those steamers were amazing

@@swedishbloke It was not built after the 1990s

Did you even watch the video lol, my train was 7 minutes early

It will happen! Not sure when I'm gonna try and chase one again but it's high on my priority list 😁

Probably not looking far enough in advance. 15th April last x2 of the day Stockholm - Göteborg is currently sitting at 295kr. It's not available on all departures and must be booked far in advance as explained in the video

The seat base slides forward, so the only one youre annoying would be your self.

I forgot to try it, EU roaming makes just staying on 4g easy :p

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I travel relatively often between Malmö and Stockholm and I feel like the trains are usually on time except in the winters. In the past 3 years I've maybe had 5 significantly delayed trains and 2 cancellations of the 60+ journeys I have taken, and all of them mostly in the winter. It has been much more common to run into delays or cancellations of the commuter trains within Malmö or Stockholm region than it is with the inter-city SJ service.