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Swiss Stage and Predictions | The Divephoria State Worlds 2023 | Episode 1 

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Welcome to the 1st Episode of The Divephoria State for Worlds 2023 where Atlus, Vedius, Chronicler & Azael look at the upcoming Swiss stage.
Timestamps:
00:08 Intro, Traveling to Korea & Movies
08:21 Worlds qualifying series
14:08 Play-Ins
22:09 Swiss stage
33:12 LCK vs LPL
42:30 Preparation of the eastern teams
45:05 T1 vs TL
49:47 European Dark Horse team?
55:00 LCK Teams
1:05:05 LPL Teams
1:10:10 G2 and scriming
1:13:36 Caps and EU Midlaners
1:23:15 How is NA looking?
1:32:00 Matchups and Predictions
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@markyochoa
@markyochoa 9 месяцев назад
Sleep deprived Azael is hilarious
@risingregime568
@risingregime568 9 месяцев назад
best part of the episode
@tinecchi3648
@tinecchi3648 9 месяцев назад
Just started so can’t wait xD
@tinecchi3648
@tinecchi3648 9 месяцев назад
My god azael is unleashed xD he drops memes every 30 seconds haha. 10/10 👍
@Habeev07
@Habeev07 9 месяцев назад
Ivern is gonna be a huge pick. The aoe heal from redemption and the shields on the frontliners in mid-late gm teamfights can be a difference maker. I wanna see the west utilize enchanters while also drafting for tanky engage for front to back teamfights with mid and adc on hypers. Heck, some Karthus/Soraka wombo combo, Senna/Seraphine (used with Ivern jg, Olaf top, and Trynd mid ghosting on enemy backline getting extension on Seraphine ult/Senna ult layered over/ Ivern redemption over the top of Olaf/Trynd), Kalista/Renata (throws Renata in with ult to get best placement possible for Renata ult on key targets.) Sample drafts with Xayah/Kai'sa banned (think how these ults synergize and layer): Olaf, Ivern, Tryndamere, Seraphine, Senna Rumble, Wukong, Orianna, Kog'maw, Braum Poppy, Karthus, Jayce, Draven, Soraka Malphite, Jarvan, Orianna, Kalista, Renata Ornn, Mao'kai, Yasuo, Nilah, Braum Kennen, Wukong, Veigar, Kalista, Taric
@lucasducros5166
@lucasducros5166 9 месяцев назад
Haha this episode was so fun to watch. So much banter and jokes, thank you guys!
@Conflixx-92
@Conflixx-92 9 месяцев назад
Released an hour ago, comment 44 minutes ago, podcast is an hour and 40 minutes. Something doesn't add up here guys.
@lucasducros5166
@lucasducros5166 9 месяцев назад
Like Azael would say, what about Caps?!?@@Conflixx-92
@arturoflash
@arturoflash 9 месяцев назад
​@@Conflixx-92 The podcast went of the rails the moment the first word was spoken tbf
@bangdkps
@bangdkps 9 месяцев назад
WHAT HISTORY IS BRUV READING
@Habeev07
@Habeev07 9 месяцев назад
Ivern is gonna be a huge pick. The aoe heal from redemption and the shields on the frontliners in mid-late gm teamfights can be a difference maker. I wanna see the west utilize enchanters while also drafting for tanky engage for front to back teamfights with mid and adc on hypers. Heck, some Karthus/Soraka wombo combo, Senna/Seraphine (used with Ivern jg, Olaf top, and Trynd mid ghosting on enemy backline getting extension on Seraphine ult/Senna ult layered over/ Ivern redemption over the top of Olaf/Trynd), Kalista/Renata (throws Renata in with ult to get best placement possible for Renata ult on key targets.) Sample drafts with Xayah/Kai'sa banned (think how these ults synergize and layer): Olaf, Ivern, Tryndamere, Seraphine, Senna Rumble, Wukong, Orianna, Kog'maw, Braum Poppy, Karthus, Jayce, Draven, Soraka Malphite, Jarvan, Orianna, Kalista, Renata Ornn, Mao'kai, Yasuo, Nilah, Braum Kennen, Wukong, Veigar, Kalista, Taric
@ottiliaottilia
@ottiliaottilia 9 месяцев назад
The energy in this truly encapsules that giggly state of tiredness. I love it.
@Nangman-Tsu
@Nangman-Tsu 9 месяцев назад
the dive + EUphoria + POG state= the diveuphoria state
@Lockerfitgemacht
@Lockerfitgemacht 9 месяцев назад
Cheers to the eu fellas that fixing their sleep schedule for worlds too today 💪
@guybrodsky9574
@guybrodsky9574 9 месяцев назад
Man what you mean it starts as soon as I clock in.
@yasuoarima6022
@yasuoarima6022 9 месяцев назад
I actuallt took a 2 weeks vacation for this
@mastrosworld1925
@mastrosworld1925 9 месяцев назад
@@yasuoarima6022 thats sad
@azrazelhananto
@azrazelhananto 9 месяцев назад
it starts 7Am going on to 2PM so its not even bad for EU
@randoeboy
@randoeboy 9 месяцев назад
​​@@guybrodsky9574truuue same 😂 and im gonna watch it all at work
@kevlan229
@kevlan229 9 месяцев назад
Sleepy Vedius+Azael were so funny, and Atlus + Chronicler were a great sport/played off their energy really well. Excited to see more for the rest of worlds!
@LombaxPieboy16
@LombaxPieboy16 9 месяцев назад
Azael should not be allowed to operate on this little sleep. Dude is criminally hilarious
@vizaco7256
@vizaco7256 9 месяцев назад
this was by far the best lol podcast episode i’ve ever heard. such good energy
@Classic112
@Classic112 9 месяцев назад
This was amazing. A more relaxed format than what I normally watch. Just riffing off each other. Really fun to watch.
@joost00555
@joost00555 9 месяцев назад
That was a very fun get together. I think it is nice for them to talk with eachother about their respective regions, where each of them has something to tell to the others that they don't know, instead of all of them knowing everything about 1 specific region already.
@ilisan
@ilisan 9 месяцев назад
Thanks for powering through, really fun episode!
@ljneztos472
@ljneztos472 9 месяцев назад
I hope that we will have The Dive after the Swiss stage with a breakdown of each game 🥰🥰
@gabrielmonteiro9740
@gabrielmonteiro9740 9 месяцев назад
haven't laughed this much with a podcast in a while! Watched 5 minutes only and Azael is unleashed. Keep it up guys!
@rafaelacuna1543
@rafaelacuna1543 9 месяцев назад
Fr this was amazing divephoria state is the best podcast ever for like 7 weeks then goes away forever
@BluDragon3
@BluDragon3 9 месяцев назад
This was super entertaining!! Hoping for more from this combo! 🎉
@LetsPlayBojangles
@LetsPlayBojangles 9 месяцев назад
Love the english talent from the 3 leagues getting together. You guys should hit up Kitty from the LPL to join to get perspective from their end.
@vevymotivation
@vevymotivation 9 месяцев назад
They should hit up Kitty? idk why but that sound so wrong
@mahatmaniggandhi2898
@mahatmaniggandhi2898 9 месяцев назад
@@vevymotivation 😂😂
@glidersuzuki5572
@glidersuzuki5572 9 месяцев назад
​@@vevymotivationwhat's so wrong? Maybe to people who don't socialise or go outside
@Kmartinlucas
@Kmartinlucas 9 месяцев назад
@glidersuzuki5572 Same day comments for The Dive, EUphoria, POG state, or any combination of the above do not come from people who touch grass on the reg (that means you too). Don't shame them cause they thought your comment sounded funny. Be happy you got engagement from a human being cause it sounds like you don't *socialize* often.
@grrumakemeangry
@grrumakemeangry 9 месяцев назад
@@Kmartinlucasas a non human being I shall stay neutral in this
@manasik6108
@manasik6108 9 месяцев назад
I love the chaotic energy!
@XaviXDJoR
@XaviXDJoR 9 месяцев назад
What a great and fun podcast this was. The banter, the prediction, Vedi HATING caps lmao, over all banger of an episode, cant wait for the next one after de best of 1s
@chrisgamez5529
@chrisgamez5529 9 месяцев назад
New Dive episode? Made my day
@doom_heit
@doom_heit 9 месяцев назад
I liked that a lot! More of this in the future
@GorlodeTheDwarf
@GorlodeTheDwarf 9 месяцев назад
as a kt fan atlus warms my heart, i hope you get to cast a KT match this worlds
@marcosokajimajr.1709
@marcosokajimajr.1709 9 месяцев назад
All Hail the best pogcast that has been made! And pls, keep it at all Worlds! It's so fun to see caster from differente regions interacting! And would be awesome if some guests from other regions could be included (LPL and minors)!
@Tropical_Panda
@Tropical_Panda 9 месяцев назад
Ty for the podcast! Very happy to listen to chroinicler and Atlus. I only watch LEC so I didnt know about the existance of PogState. I'm adding it to my gym podcasts list 👍
@j.p2115
@j.p2115 9 месяцев назад
I love the extra long podcast formats! Hopefully there's no pressure to make it shorter hahaha. Great to see the different podcast regions in one collective mega podcast.
@Kmartinlucas
@Kmartinlucas 9 месяцев назад
20 minutes in and I've already had water shoot out of my nose and 2 spit takes. I need this EVERY worlds. Great content guys, hope Azael and Vedius got some sleep after.
@joebadlands2110
@joebadlands2110 9 месяцев назад
Was doing some homework and this podcast was very timely for my background noise :>
@amaranth6400
@amaranth6400 9 месяцев назад
Been looking forward to this!
@whatyouknowaboutthat2546
@whatyouknowaboutthat2546 9 месяцев назад
Love the mash up of guests
@nyambayartogtohtur1525
@nyambayartogtohtur1525 9 месяцев назад
Oh yeasss pog stage for worlds!!!
@devvision7613
@devvision7613 9 месяцев назад
Azael literally has the best takes love the content!
@squidopus5478
@squidopus5478 9 месяцев назад
I feel like everyone is underestimating the NRG buff against teams that they should lose to, they always win games against better teams, which is, in theory, every team at the tournament, so they’re going undefeated
@rafaelacuna1543
@rafaelacuna1543 9 месяцев назад
NAMEN
@darkienl5886
@darkienl5886 9 месяцев назад
However, if they go 3-0 in Swiss, they are suddenly a top team and expected to win, so they will get swept by like BLG in quarters
@perteadsf4914
@perteadsf4914 9 месяцев назад
​@@darkienl5886However, when they are 2-0 down, everyone will say it was just a flash and they are not the favorites again, resulting in them reverse sweeping their way through to the title.
@r0flcopter
@r0flcopter 9 месяцев назад
This was awesome. Everyone was fantastic
@Pyrrha_Nikos
@Pyrrha_Nikos 9 месяцев назад
I agree on 90% of what Azael said at 33:00 about maybe EU and NA shouldn't have a pool 1 seed. The only issues I see with this is 1) under what objective argument do you measure when EU or NA deserve a pool 1 back or not? And 2) (and this is the biggest issue I see) is that you can maybe argue that a team like G2 is maybe 2 or 3 steps below a pool 1 team. But the 2nd EU seed is like 4 steps below G2. What if that G2 gets enough results across 2 or 3 years to firmly deserve a pool 1 seeding, and then next year they don't make it as EU's 1st seed and the 1st seed just lucked out? Or if they make it as pool 1 seed, but the 2nd seed (that should get pool 2 seeding) is extremely inferior to other pool 2 teams? It's very tricky because the gap between G2 and other western teams is just as big as between pool 1 eastern teams and G2.
@lazydk2654
@lazydk2654 9 месяцев назад
If we are sticking to current format, pool 1 would be based on who makes semis, or finals of worlds and msi. Pool 2 would be playoffs etc.
@Pyrrha_Nikos
@Pyrrha_Nikos 9 месяцев назад
​@@lazydk2654 The problem is Worlds isn't region vs region. It's teams vs teams. DRX won Worlds last year and with your definition they should be pool 1, but they didn't even make it to Worlds. So we give LCK a pool 1 for a team that isn't there? What if that pool 1 team gets clapped by the other pool 1 teams? Say this year GAM wins Worlds because they get lucky with their draws and luck out all tournament. Does VCS next year deserve a pool 1 seeding when they only have 1 Play-Ins seed rn? I know it's a stupid example, but sometimes completely unexpected things do happen at Worlds, and they don't necessarily reflect next year's perfomances.
@lester8403
@lester8403 9 месяцев назад
Azael and Atlas are really my favorite casters!! And totally underrated
@justin9744
@justin9744 9 месяцев назад
Neither is underrated. They both are held in high regards.
@haydenmcturk2329
@haydenmcturk2329 9 месяцев назад
It actually pretty funny when Atlus said Wunder could probably play Garen because he did play Garen on g2 in 2019 I think it was actually one of their only losses.
@cedrichofstetter4057
@cedrichofstetter4057 9 месяцев назад
This was so good
@skeeter3361
@skeeter3361 9 месяцев назад
The seeding question is relatively easy to resolve. Before each worlds, lets look at all the international events of the last two years, each win awards a point. That will set up a regional ranking. Top 2 regions get first two seeds in pool1, 3rd seeds in pool2, top3-4 region gets seed 1 on pool 2, top 1-2 seed 4s and top3-4 seed 2 in pool 3, rest of the seeds plus playin goes to pool 4. THat way, it always gets the best possible seeding, and most realistic power ranking.
@tipix2234
@tipix2234 9 месяцев назад
two years? one meta one team!
@rhydondaddy
@rhydondaddy 9 месяцев назад
omg the LCK casters are not dead!
@alexandrverianov8555
@alexandrverianov8555 9 месяцев назад
about caps discussion, I feel like Vedi has Caps in such regard he takes him out of EU mids category and compares him with all time great asian mids, where Caps regretfully doesn't measure up that well. he is a greatest mid EU ever had.
@EskimoBob1337
@EskimoBob1337 9 месяцев назад
I can agree with What he said about the best in the world. To many great midlaners. But the humanoid take is bit weird. This game is more about laning.i also Think the teams Will be more focused to shutdown caps in games then they Will for humanoid. Humanoid was never in the conversation for best in the world
@alexandrverianov8555
@alexandrverianov8555 9 месяцев назад
Thats the recency bias maybe, last time we saw caps being in his prime was vs BDD in 2020, Humanoid had great showings last year
@shinyxlol
@shinyxlol 9 месяцев назад
LCS: NANeverSleeps Azael: hold my plane ticket
@ThePJMcConnell
@ThePJMcConnell 9 месяцев назад
This podcast constantly popped into nonsensical chatter lol, love it
@orionmilbury4817
@orionmilbury4817 9 месяцев назад
Missed this needed some leauge content
@phreakisop9810
@phreakisop9810 9 месяцев назад
caps was the best mid laner in the world duriing MSI 2019. he got a quadrakill vs SKT, then won finals MVP.
@baratjoey5981
@baratjoey5981 9 месяцев назад
you. killed it :)
@360DVD
@360DVD 9 месяцев назад
My fav time of year!
@Spawniiieh
@Spawniiieh 9 месяцев назад
Finally Worlds is here!!
@Diya-dg6ur
@Diya-dg6ur 9 месяцев назад
Chronicler is amazing!!!!
@Infidel.
@Infidel. 9 месяцев назад
Fangirl
@Diya-dg6ur
@Diya-dg6ur 9 месяцев назад
@@Infidel. Hard not to be
@KjulinQlin
@KjulinQlin 9 месяцев назад
appreciate vedi delivering the anti hopium to not jinx g2 at worlds
@Anikthias
@Anikthias 9 месяцев назад
Wow, this was one of the best League podcast episodes ever. Felt like no wasted time, and everyone got equal time to speak. Just wish they'd focused on matchups a bit longer but 10/10 lads
@justin9744
@justin9744 9 месяцев назад
I think chronicler was kinda shafted. Didn’t get many opportunities to speak but the episode was great.
@OlleReberg
@OlleReberg 9 месяцев назад
Vedius and the conversation around caps can be so strange at times. He has indeed had some poor performances vs great mids internationally, but he also has performances like last year in the first round vs RNG and T1 where he made fun of both Xiahou and Faker(and yes having the reverse happen after). He's nowhere near as consistent as chovy or knight but it's not uncommon for him to have standout games(including lane) where he stomps the worlds best too.
@JetPiol
@JetPiol 9 месяцев назад
The POG State intro music + Atlus intro line really had me hahahaha
@angelo_pc4717
@angelo_pc4717 9 месяцев назад
this is great
@Sarnji_
@Sarnji_ 9 месяцев назад
Loved this episode, so funny
@danantonio2672
@danantonio2672 9 месяцев назад
I always think these should be uploaded earlier than on the same day. Would have loved this a few days ago
@ninjakittie24
@ninjakittie24 9 месяцев назад
Agreed. Last couple of days there was nothing Worlds related like this and now everything is being uploaded...
@arturoflash
@arturoflash 9 месяцев назад
I mean they recorded the podcast yesterday
@guillermolanza19
@guillermolanza19 9 месяцев назад
Let's go azael!
@Shnozzu
@Shnozzu 9 месяцев назад
never heard zebra crossing in my life ty vedi!!
@Graine01
@Graine01 9 месяцев назад
I think if seeding was to be revised, lck/lpl 1-2s pool 1, lec/lcs 1st and lck/lpl 3rd pool 2, rest are pool 3.
@BrendanZanitCoen
@BrendanZanitCoen 9 месяцев назад
banger episode
@goalkeepercon
@goalkeepercon 9 месяцев назад
Such a fun podcast! Just rubs me wrong how Vedius was so mean to Caps the whole time 😄 /s
@theroyal908
@theroyal908 9 месяцев назад
We need a divephoria state co-stream
@tofupowda
@tofupowda 9 месяцев назад
AHHHHHH LETS GO
@ClairvoyanceSC2
@ClairvoyanceSC2 9 месяцев назад
W Atlus and Chronicler
@_Jimhawk
@_Jimhawk 9 месяцев назад
Podcast lineup of GODS
@JPLX99
@JPLX99 9 месяцев назад
W video as always
@loubalto5956
@loubalto5956 9 месяцев назад
jet lag podcast is always a banger 😂
@jordanher2354
@jordanher2354 9 месяцев назад
I share the same sentiment as Azael when it comes to Caps, he 100% was in the conversation as best mid in the world in 2019.
@immagns
@immagns 9 месяцев назад
ATLUS WOW IM A BIG FAN
@moarfunxd
@moarfunxd 9 месяцев назад
Vedius was so sassy here i love it rofl
@s1lentsymphony607
@s1lentsymphony607 9 месяцев назад
Fantastic episode. I want to mention something, though. 46:49 The talk about how they wanted to go hard LCK style, practice like Korean teams. But they can't. Because the quality of solo-queue time, and the quality of the scrims, are not going to instill great habits. When they go to Korea, and start dealing with solo queue in Korea, where its a different standard? They'll improve. But then they eventually have to go back to NA. So you can try to emulate LCK all you like. But until the quality of opponent in the home region improves? They'll slide back.
@KalunJiaLin
@KalunJiaLin 9 месяцев назад
I’m just going to say, I love Atlas😂
@kaitoxzexal7845
@kaitoxzexal7845 9 месяцев назад
WE NEED MORE OF THESE, WHERE ARE THEY
@arturoflash
@arturoflash 9 месяцев назад
The sad thing for Vedius is that the episode ended with a :47 😂
@user-sg2es3jo6i
@user-sg2es3jo6i 9 месяцев назад
the audio was a bit off, specially when laughter occurred (i was hearing without headphones) just my two cents that aside, loved the content, was looking forward for something like this
@Abishkar-q1p
@Abishkar-q1p 9 месяцев назад
man riot should make a podcast
@EarlHare
@EarlHare 9 месяцев назад
?
@Ayden24B
@Ayden24B 9 месяцев назад
36:50 There was no MSI 2020 was there? I just remember C9 winning and being upset about never getting the international experience
@maslow8131
@maslow8131 9 месяцев назад
We should get some timestamps
@buttponcho101
@buttponcho101 9 месяцев назад
Man, but why does Vedius hate Caps though :^) Loved the podcast. Cheer up Azael
@sebastianseemann8524
@sebastianseemann8524 9 месяцев назад
is this not on apple podcast?
@peterboylan8560
@peterboylan8560 9 месяцев назад
Hilarious episode
@BigMitchyD
@BigMitchyD 9 месяцев назад
chroni-kek-ler new hair so cute
@user-bc2fm8zc3q
@user-bc2fm8zc3q 9 месяцев назад
Actually genuinely funny for a podcast episode.
@vladimirparra1124
@vladimirparra1124 9 месяцев назад
What is Vedius saying, without Caps, Europe would be probably consider like NA o would have the same achievements as NA (None)
@yaibaman
@yaibaman 9 месяцев назад
Please have someone checking sound. Either having Vedi really low that its just silent or I turn it up and then everyone else is hurting my ears. (at least midway, they pull up the mic afterwards).
@EarlHare
@EarlHare 9 месяцев назад
yak yak yak the whole podcast and then wake up at the last minute in a frantic panic, pure adhd podcast lmao
@HolyShitNew
@HolyShitNew 9 месяцев назад
caps in internationals always was great last year msi he was a walking highlight reel in worlds sure he underperformed this msi i dont exactly remember his performance but i remember that g2 was competetive so idk
@donoflan
@donoflan 9 месяцев назад
How are matches determined for each of the following rounds? Is there a new draw each time?
@hiddnsquiddn598
@hiddnsquiddn598 9 месяцев назад
Yes
@viktorermakxv9725
@viktorermakxv9725 9 месяцев назад
Atlus, Chronicler and Valdest The GOAT casters
@EddyQ64
@EddyQ64 9 месяцев назад
Azael is easily goated
@grrumakemeangry
@grrumakemeangry 9 месяцев назад
@@EddyQ64azarl is goated if your rank is na iron
@missyoualltime
@missyoualltime 9 месяцев назад
They actually start talking about League at 7:35
@Shunpon77
@Shunpon77 8 месяцев назад
It's a lot of fun coming back to this now that finals is over. Some of these takes were really good. G2 = Harlrm Globe Trotters T1 vs TL will be a spicy match
@88chimes
@88chimes 9 месяцев назад
I've always agreed with Vedius' takes but to say Caps has performed poorly internationally is one I hard disagree with and I'm glad Azael pushed back on this. Caps has been one of the Wests best performing players in recent league history. He was a key player in both the FNC and G2 teams that made it all the way to finals
@mwbwyatt
@mwbwyatt 9 месяцев назад
i think what he's trying to say is that when it comes down to the bigger matches vs important teams (such as finals) he's performed far worse than his norm~
@EvillAnime
@EvillAnime 9 месяцев назад
@@mwbwyatt nah caps has been really clutch, but in 2022 he didn't do the best
@vevymotivation
@vevymotivation 9 месяцев назад
recent history? like 2022 worlds 2023 msi ? bruv i love Caps but at MSI the only reason G2 lost was Caps he was heavy underperforming . But still lets hope Claps is back for worlds
@silvercharts
@silvercharts 9 месяцев назад
2018 and 2019 isn't recent by lolesport standards lmao
@Introducez
@Introducez 9 месяцев назад
xpeke
@Storm411z
@Storm411z 9 месяцев назад
Azael hard countered by screaming baby and sock yogurt 😭😭
@dimitarbachvarov9192
@dimitarbachvarov9192 9 месяцев назад
Can't believe that we need NA fan and castor to put some respect on Caps XD
@JncID10T
@JncID10T 9 месяцев назад
I didn’t realize Damwon was D+ till 55 mins in…it’s not just Azeal na is just breh🤣🤣
@doughglass
@doughglass 9 месяцев назад
yaaaaassssss
@CoachEd
@CoachEd 9 месяцев назад
I hope we can expect atleast one rep from each region in the coming episodes.
@jxx8152
@jxx8152 9 месяцев назад
1:03:00 That would not be the first time all of LCK teams did not get out, in 2018 Gen.G went 1-5 and became the first Korean team to not get out of groups.
@mauriciobetimpaesleme8702
@mauriciobetimpaesleme8702 9 месяцев назад
34:20 Hey Vedius, I had to pick a comment of mine from earlier this year but I did (the) minimum research of LCK and LPL teams at Worlds after the LPL Boom: Every year since 2019 China has been considered the best region easily and yet the number od teams qualifying to Worlds Semi-finals has Korea winning 8-6 against China and in quarters Korea is also ahead 14-10 from 2019 to 2022. I agree that Chinese teams feel better #1 to #4 but I never count Korea out, specially after DRX miracle run.
@Bas1cZ
@Bas1cZ 9 месяцев назад
Vedius is smokin something, he can't say that Caps has performed poorly internationally, he can't say that Humanoid is better internationally then Caps cause that's just not true. I think people hold him to such a high standard compared to everyone else. My man has been on top form since 2018, that's 5 years now while being regarded as the top player in his team, when every opponent prepares for him, target bans him almost every game, and he reinvents himself time after time and stays relevant. I'll give you the guide for how to prepare against humanoid: Ban whichever of these is the most meta at the moment - Azir-Orianna-Viktor. Congratulations, you won against humanoid (or larssen, another 3 trick-poney). People always try to descredit Caps, but he's just the best EU has ever had period. He is built different. 2018 2nd place. 2019 2nd place. 2020 loses to the champion. 2021 the team didn't function well, but the strategy was to play for Caps. 2022 still very solid. 2023 on top of the game again, with a LARGE gap to other EU mids. 70% winrate top 48 Challenger in Korea. What else do you want from this man? Just give him the praise he deserves
@Jemnej
@Jemnej 9 месяцев назад
Well, is it fair to be upset about some injust opinions about your favorite player and do the exactly same thing to other player? Humanoids first LEC match champ picked was Aatrox mid, he has montages of Qiyana and Akali plays from LEC matches, he had some epic plays with TF, Jayce, Tristana and Sylas and still he is beast on control mages like Ori, Azir and Victor. You can try to picture other players as lesser, to support your argument, but it would be fair to point out qualities of someone you want make shine above the others without throwing shadows on the others based on your feelings, not facts. Btw Caps is goat LEC mid.
@Bas1cZ
@Bas1cZ 9 месяцев назад
@@Jemnej I might've gotten carried away, i was triggered xD
@GuyPearce217
@GuyPearce217 9 месяцев назад
@@Jemnej Caps LEC goat. Perkz western goat. I wish they play together again with Perkz as adc literally semi finals team with them on team.
@EskimoBob1337
@EskimoBob1337 9 месяцев назад
​​@@Jemnejagree, the humanoid name drop was just weird, dont think humanoid would have been close to showmaker or rookie. Thats what he mentioned when caps dint preform. Like they were not the best players in the world or close at the time.
@carlo09kaloy
@carlo09kaloy 9 месяцев назад
Never this early wow
@CheesySanchez
@CheesySanchez 9 месяцев назад
Every year people underrate Faker at World’s and every year, T1 gets to at least Semis or Finals.
@dragonplayz6606
@dragonplayz6606 9 месяцев назад
Yeah cope, mechanics only > all, copium
@lerizxshala9650
@lerizxshala9650 9 месяцев назад
And every time they lose.
@ponkadots7764
@ponkadots7764 9 месяцев назад
Sure why not, But now the question is if they can win it.
@calebwelch7615
@calebwelch7615 9 месяцев назад
​@@lerizxshala9650The team that has the most world's titles, yes. They've never won anything.
@yasuoarima6022
@yasuoarima6022 9 месяцев назад
Lose every finals
@Psydefex
@Psydefex 9 месяцев назад
5:11 lemme find out the homies dropped a hero dose before they started filming lmaoo
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