Thanks for using our gear and putting this video together. Glad you're liking the tent. Here's a few notes/thoughts/tips/explanations: 1) For the zippers operating one handed, if you put the pole tips into the loops on the sides of the floor, then it will anchor the zippers there and enable them to operate one handed on the vertical part of the zipper too. 2) Regarding the 90 degree corners, there are pros and cons here. As Sarah mentions, you could get bugs in if the corner isn't quite closed. The rationale for the 90 degree corner is a few things. First, the superlight interior zippers we are using are the lightest zippers in the world but they don't come in a curved version so we can't do a curved corner while using these zippers. But also there are some nice advantages of a 90 degree corner, which are (1) you can more easily find the sliders in the dark because they are always in the same spot, (2) the zippers last longer because corners are responsible for most of the wear, and (3) they operate more reliably one handed than a curved corner (when also using the pole tip loop). So there are some pros and cons. Overall I prefer them, but opinions vary. 3) For the space/layout, you will get a better pitch on the floor if the base of the fly is tighter (snug up the corners more before adding the poles) and then also extend the poles a bit more firmly which will tighten up the canopy more and increase the headroom and length further. When sleeping with two, you can sleep opposite but I recommend sleeping the same way. To get that working well, I would slide the entire pad down and leave the lower corner as a space for gear. I can't put a link here, but the X-Mid Pro 2+ product page has a diagram showing sliding away from the lower corner to leave it as a space for gear, and then headroom on that side is better than almost all comparable tents. It is true that sleeping opposite gives even more though. So you get a ton of room sleeping opposite but should do well sleeping the same way - especially if you slide down a bit more and get the fly a bit tighter to add a few more inches of clearance. 4) For the bathtub floor, it should stand up nicer if the fly base is tighter (mentioned above). I use a 5" height because the fly comes lower than most tents. The idea is that instead of a drafty fly and then a tall bathtub to block splatter, we use a more 'full coverage' fly that extends lower to the ground, and then the vestibules are more protected and the bathtub has less need to be tall. Yeah the corner cords are on the short side of things. The main reason for that is that if we give users long cords then a small % of less experienced users will do strange things with it, like set some corners long and some short to give a wonky pitch. So they are shorter for a reason but certainly you can swap on longer cords for more flexibility. Thanks again for using our tents! Dan Durston
I rarely see a company jump on and give such detailed explanations on their products, I think that shows just how proud of your products you are and how much you appreciate the outdoors community. Thank you so much for walking through ways to improve upon the pitch! I didn't know what to set the pole length to, so I just winged it. Sounds like there's less worry about trying to get the perfect pole height and instead just lengthen it most of the way and it should be good. I definitely see the reasoning for the shorter lines in the corners, but for our area (Washington) there's a ton of rocky areas with shallow dirt patches to camp on. In this pitch, 3 corners were totally fine and I had good holds, the fourth side was on firm ground where I couldn't get a tent stake in unless I went out about 1.5 feet. So that side ended up being a little looser (probably impacts the pitch too) than I normally would like. I did order line to lengthen the corners which will help in our situations. I'm still looking forward to testing out the bathtub in downpour situations. Like you said, having the fly really low to the ground and having the bathtub away from the walls may help with rain bouncing back up into the tent. We've been in some gnarly sideways downpours with rain still bouncing into a 10" bathtub in the past, but there's more clearance on the X-Mid from the fly to the bathtub. We'll definitely try out sliding the pad further down and see how that works. Even if we moved our gear to the top instead then that should clear us of any faces in the side wall. Thanks again for responding, I appreciate and respect it!
It's crazy cool to see you engaging on such a small channel. This was the first time I've come across anyone mention the 90 degree corner. You and your crew are a step above the rest.
@@SummitForWellness You're welcome! For the pole length, it is best not to measure but instead get the base of the fly staked out tight (snug up the corners well) and then just extend the poles until the fly is quite tight. It should wind up about 124 cm but the actual height will vary depending on uneven ground and how long the corner cords are set.
@@durstongearhey Dan I know this is a comment section but on your website it says the XMid pro 2 dyneema ships late July. I just ordered one and was wondering if it can hopefully make it by august 5 (trip starts on that date). Thank you!
That's true, that would've been a better setup for how we sleep. When we originally got the Ultamid 2 we each were using our own sleeping pads and sleeping bags and we each slept on one side of the pole. But then over the years we ended up with a double sleeping bag and double sleeping pad, so we made do with what we already had which worked pretty well. Overall it's got way more than enough room for 2 people inside the tent and the Ultamid 4 would probably feel like a castle!
