the brand loyalty phenomena is interesting, it's like sports or national pride, you pick a brand and follow it until the end, even when presented with arguments against it, which you try to explain and defend your brand of choice, it truly is interesting what human psychology can do.
I go for price I have a 4070ti because someone on marketplace wanted to swap for a lower card and some cash so I swapped my 3060ti and £200 for the 4070ti
An overlooked part of it is the effect of retailers and retail employees. I sent my cousin in to get him an AMD card specifically for best value, and the Microcenter worker ended up convincing him to get a WORSE Nvidia card for MORE money. I had forgotten to warn him commission often forces them to act just like car salesmen - and that they aren't necessarily all experts anyway. When retail workers have brand loyalties, it impacts sales especially to newcomers.
@@acid3129 Same here I always check benchmarks and reviews and then factor in price. Been doing that since the late 90's when I bought my first ever GPU. I have no clue as to why anyone WOULDNT do that, but blindly follow a company no matter what, even buying massively inferior cards while doing so. The last 2 Geforce cards I owned were a GTX 970 (cos it actually won vs the R9 290 - but then a week later AMD dropped the price by 30% DOH!), and the GTX980Ti which a friend sold me for £250 and I couldn't resist. Ever since then, every card has been AMD cos they simply smashed Nvidia at my price point every single time. And with the 7800XT, looks like I'm going that way again.
Same. Replaced my 1070 with an RX 6800 earlier this year. I just couldn't bring myself to buy a 70 class Geforce with the SAME VRAM as two gens ago! The last Radeon I owned was an R9-270X back in 2013 lol
I've had Nvidia cards for the last 10 years. I decide that enough was enough and decided to try AMD. I bought a Branded new 6700xt for £276 (actually cost me £230 but it was bought through a company which took off the VAT), I really can't fault the card that much; the idle power consumption is high at 34 watts compared with my 1070 which idled at 10 watts.
Also upgraded from Nvidia to an RX 6800, though shortly after release. We didn’t get hit as hard with pricing during the crisis in NZ. I had no issue playing games like Hogwarts Legacy or The Last of Us at release, and my only real “sacrifice” was having to turn off RT. I also dual boot in Linux, so AMD made that a lot easier. I was convinced enough that I upgraded to a 7900 XTX after getting a higher res screen.
i upgraded from a 3080 10Gb to the 7900 xtx and I have been supremely pleased. This is the first time I've ever been able to absolutely crank texture settings at 4k without losing a high refresh experience. Nvidia's new tech does look cool but I have not regretted my purchase and I hope you don't regret yours either!
Same thing here. Pretty happy with mine. I'm excited to see what amd will being against a 50 series. Rumors are the 5090 will be a huge generational leap
@@FantasticKruH it’s just a stock model shroud made by power color. Somewhat unassuming but I dig the look. I got fairly lucky in the lottery as I can undervolt a good amount while cranking the memory frequency and the power limit. Hottest it ever gets is low 70s.
I switched to AMD once, after being an Nvidia user all my life. Within three days, my dog died. It hung itself in shame. Then both my parents died in a car crash. After the funeral, the bank repossesed the family home, and I was about to live on the street. But just before I was evicted, the AMD card exploded, destroying everything for 11 blocks and killing hundreds of people. Geforce is better. Buy a 4060Ti. In fact, buy 10 of em. You'll save a fortune! -Jensen
I have used Nvidia 2001-2012 , then I have swith to AMD 2012-2023 , and in May this year I have Nvidia gpu , oh tho that is "older" gpu , so this or next year I get new one , I considered to wait for 5070 get out next year , but if I will 4080 in fair price I will grab it , I want to play in 3 games Starfield , Cyberpunk 2077 & RDR2 and only RDR2 is ready CP2077 is still updated and patched , Starfield will be playble like 2025 , so I can wait , now I get ready to play 2007 NWN2 later POE so I have games that keep me going until I get new GPU :)))
I switched to a linux based operating system, and the drivers for my GTX1080 gave me grief on numerous occasions. So when i built my new pc i grabbed a 7900xtx, and it's been beautifully seamless thanks to AMD's open-source drivers.
That's exactly my experience, with a 1080 too. Haven't gotten to the "buy a radeon" part yet tho. I'm very sad to say nvidia has ruined my experience with Linux. X11 and nvidia sucks ass on things like kde plasma. Wayland sometimes works, sometimes doesnt. Video decoding in browsers is completely unsupported unlike with Intel. It made me switch back to Windows after 2 years as a rampant arch linux fanboy (btw). Feels like it killed a hobby for me. On the other side tho, I can't deny that if I could get an RTX card, I would do so, despite my experiences with nvidia on Linux. So it's kind of my own fault as well.
@@Noodles1922if I were a developer, putting my effort into a technology (DLSS) that not only works on only one of the three card brands, but certain versions won't even work on those cards depending on how old they are, I think I'd be more inclined to use something more open that has better coverage. AMD and Intel both have their technologies work on all brands, no matter how new or old they are. Considering both the Xbox and PlayStation are AMD as well, it makes even more sense to not cater to that nonsense. Support will come eventually for Nvidia hardware, just not on day one.
This might be the most criminally underrated tech review channel on RU-vid, if not on all of internet. From the intro and outro, the quality of your graphs and the depth of your research, the channels feels like a ten million sub quality.
I wouldnt go that far, but it is good content for sure. I feel as if he is selling emotion and then claiming not to have any himself. I like the videos but they could be less about what could be, more about what is, what matters, and the reality that RTX is a gimmick. BECAUSE RTX IS A GIMMICK.
with what CPU you paired it with. I'm looking around to get a new PC with a AMD GPU (7800, 7900 XTX is way to much for my needs) to replace my i7-7700K with GTX1060 GPU. And btw, what's your distro choice?
Congratulations on the upgrade man! I hope it works out for you. When I just built my rig I went with a rx 6800 myself and a Ryzen 7 7700x stellar little system so far.
The biggest problem with a lot of people who switch to AMD or Nvidia from eachother is that they don’t properly uninstall the old drivers and when the switch happens they get all kinds of driver and performance issues
Last time I had both sets of drivers installed nothing happened. Somehow they played nice together... I completely forgot I did that and it stayed like that for a couple of years. Then I realized and uninstalled the Nvidia drivers.
and that RTX cards runs better on a intel CPUs, yet a lot of people get a AMD CPU and RTX card then moan that there getting lower FPs than using a AMD CPU and a AMD card
I had a Red Devil 6900XT and loved it. It is now in my friend's PC after I had it for 2 years and upgraded to a 4090 (AMD didn't make anything to compete with it and it is amazing for DCS VR). I do miss AMD's drivers though. Relive and tuning in it was awesome.
7900XTX rivals the 4090 in performance when it comes to raw rendering rate, without DLSS / Raytracing on, for half the price, it beats or matches the fps of the 4090 in every game except for ones that rely on DLSS heavily.
@@sankaplays3098 no, it doesn't. It is a bit better than the 4080. I play a lot of Halo Infinite and the performance lines up with the 4080. Also, VR is way better on the 4090. That is why I have it. Halo Infinite is usually 144 fps+ at 4k. It doesn't have DLSS and I have it rendering native 4k for my Samsung G70A.
My first GPU was a Voodoo card (twin GPU's!) after that it was all Nvidia all the way up to the RTX 2080TI which was the first card that disappointed me, but between the absurd price of the 4090 and the lost of EVGA as a board partner I decided to finally give AMD a go and went for a RX 7900 XTX (I game in 4k) so far I've been very happy with it. If Nvidia hadn't so grossly over charge for the 4090 and screwed over EVGA I might never had changed over.
Are you the one person who bought a 5900gtx? Lol. 8800gtx were woeful too. There has been some truly awful nvidia cards over the years but people are brainwashed.
Great vid. I recently switched to AMD as the price to performance ratio was so much better than NVIDIA but what I wasn't expecting was how much better the AMD software was for tuning and displaying on screen metrics. A welcome plus.
That's so true, I went the other way. I've used Radeon since the HD 4870 but recently inherited a Nvidia card. I was looking for the settings and saw that the control panel looked like Windows 95 and instantly thought "Oh that can't be it" but yes... Yes it is. 🤣
I thought that at first when I bought a 6800XT around 9-10 months ago. But since then I've realised just like GeForce Experience/Control Panel on my old 2070 Super, it's only on very rare occasions that I actually have to go into Adrenaline in order to tweak anything, anyway. It's great that it's there and it's far better looking and easier to navigate than Nvidia's dated offering, but then again, it's barely ever used. Just in the same vein as "App Centre" for my Mobo or "Ryzen Master Utility" for my CPU are hardly ever used. Given the choice, I would choose to switch to Nvidias Control Panel & DLSS (which I sorely miss), over Adrenaline's better UI & FSR, any-day of the week. Price to performance was the only reason that I reluctantly chose AMD over Nvidia in the first place, TBH. BTW, I used to use DLSS on a fairly regular basis on my 2070 Super, however I just find that FSR is just either a poor quality or a downright unusable alternative to it. RT on the other-hand was/is barely useable on either GPU's.
@@quarkidee2878 Everything is still there and possibly with more options TBH, it's just terrible to navigate and looks dated. You are right on your plus point though, it's no where near as heavy on resources, than Adrenaline is.
I don't think you'll regret it. Been using AMD since the HD 5870 and outside of a period of time where the 5700xt had broken drivers and was black screening a lot, across all models it's been great. And I'd assume by the time developers are bold enough to fully transition to ray traced only games, rt will be something even budget gpus do well.
Dunno why iceberg said that RDNA3 has RT performance similar to RTX 3000 series when 7900xt is faster in many games using RT than 4070ti. Similar with 7900xtx and 4080. Of course Radeon gpus will lose in games like CP77 (this is one of few really good looking rt games) because they are made for nvidia. Look what is happening in games like metro exodus, resident evil, dead space, even control where nvidia did a lot to make rt working the best on their gpus and somehow amd gpus are working very good with ray tracing.
@@MacTavish9619The 4070ti losing to the 7900xt is karma for being stingy with VRAM . (For lols the 3070 gets beat by the 6800). The 7900xtx is about a 3090 in RT , and the xt is about as fast as a 3080 from what I see. So not bad , but not a match for top Lovelace - the top Radeon card about 25% down on the 4080 , and 60% down on the 4090.
Your video has struck something in me more than any other tech RU-vidr it wrenches my heart not seeing you more popular with this level of editing quality and talking you are quite literally the matpat of tech
This is my first time seeing any of your videos, and i gotta say, this was great. Your realistic approach to all the gimicks card manufacturers pull to try and make their stuff seem better was refreshing. Ive been running a 6900xt for most of 2023, using it as my living room 4k tv GPU, and i absolutely love it. I'm glad to see someone giving it it's due. Subscribed
Honestly, the 7800xt its really not a bad choice here, its a ~60w less power usage, its new, smaller in size, and almost same performance giving all the new features, idk, maybe its just my view on it
It's also more expensive than a used 6900 xt. Performance wise it's fairly close, but it's also generally closer to the 6800 xt, a card that's also cheaper on the second hand market
@@sosukelele but...That's a used 3 year old card. The difference between a 6900xt/6800xt/7800xt is not that big at all. The extra $100 or so for a brand new card is well worth it imho.
I think is all about the price difference between the 7800Xt and 6800Xt. With similar price the first is a no brainer but if the 6800XT is like a 100 cheaper then you are better buying the 68000XT.
I upgraded my 3060ti to an Rx 6800 and it's been fantastic actually maxing out games at 1440p without having to worry about stuttering when it ran out of vram
After owning RTX 3060ti and 3070, I've realized most of the time i didnt really need to use RTX feature, made me realize how much value amd can give if its price to performance (thats why im saving for a 7900xt instead of a 4080.. (the prices here in the PH are outrageous)
Hey, Welcome to Team Red! There are a few things we wanted to make a bit clear here. 1. AMD has a separated ray tracing units and the patent doesn't seem to cover the way things work 100%. There is some load applied on SMs rather than these units, but it is purely connected to bvh calculations and has nothing to do with the rays per triangle calculations. We've talked about that in our video about ray tracing on different vendors differences if you're interested. 2. When it is true that AMD tends to be slower in RT this is not the case in 100% of cases. Obviously there cases when VRAM plays its role since RT is VRAM demanding as well, but also there are cases where rays per triangle calculations become more important that ray per bvh box and since AMD usually have comparable amount of CUs but on higher clock their rays per triangle is faster, that is also explained in our video about RT 3. Don't hurt the baby Series S!!! P. S. Team Red currently sucks as well with same 8gb cards :(
I bought a 4070 back in May. Upgraded from a 1660 Ti. This 4070 is my first experience with a high-end, ray tracing-capable GPU. I admit I did have a good bit of fun enabling RT in games that support it, just for the "wow" factor. I'd turn on ray tracing in a game like Doom Eternal, for example. Or Quake II RTX or Portal RTX. And I'd play for a while. I have two things to say about my experience with ray tracing: now that I'm used to the look of ray traced lighting, shadows, reflections, etc, it's difficult to go back to non-ray traced lighting and reflections. When I turn off ray tracing in Doom Eternal, for example. All those missing ray traced reflections becomes very noticeable. It's a bit jarring to turn off ray tracing and you notice all the missing reflections. However, my second point: at this point in time, until DLSS 3.5 is released, ray tracing is extremely 'noisy'. I thought there was an issue with my PC or GPU actually, because Quake II RTX and Portal RTX has very noisy ray tracing. Like, when light reflects off a metal surface, it doesn't look good. Anyone who's had personal experience with ray tracing knows what I'm talking about. So this is another reason why ray tracing is not even all that useful at this point in time, until DLSS 3.5 is implemented in games, which massively improves the ray tracing denoising quality. For now, what's the point in using ray tracing if it just looks *bad* often?
I get your point but I have a 3070Ti and I see no difference between RTX on and off. I've played the entire cyberpunk storyline with RTX off (on a 5700xt) and when I got the 3070Ti I was disappointed to see no difference between rasterized and ray traced lol... might just be me though. Never played the games you mentioned so might be just my case, though nvidia market cyberpunk as their go-to ray-traced experience
If you had the Gaming OC RTX 3070, then we had the same gpu 😅I however chose to take a different path, I purchased an ASRock Phantom Gaming 7800 XT as a replacement on Saturday. It was one of 3 options, that card for $530 USD, a 6800 XT for $500 USD, or a used RTX 3080 12GB for $550 USD. It came down to future driver support for me and the inclusion of Starfield as an added bonus. All in all I would say so far the 7800 XT has been a worthwhile upgrade and I look forward to driver development for the card as well as a general understanding that the card will be supported longer than the other 2 options.
@@newax_productions2069 Not even close to true I’ve owned a 580 and a 5700xt, never had driver issues got the 2070 super nothing but driver issues, got the 4070 frequent driver issues it’s more like Nvidia has gotten worse drivers as Dead Space remake was unplayable on the 4000 series GPUs and still is even with the latest drivers
Don't. Don't miss it. I currently have an RX 570 and am about to upgrade onto an rx 6700 xt out of this hell hole of a card. It has so many problems, mainly the drivers. The hardware isn't bad, but running anything on it is. I get random driver crashes that just cut my monitor output sometimes until a hard restart of my computer, sometimes it gets it back automatically. It even has poor performance for what it is. On top of this I have problems with running certain games with it due to the absolute garbage driver updates that it gets. As an example, during last summer it got a driver update that did something with the GPU software that would cause your game to crash if it tried to use it. It was such a specific error since the ONLY thing I could find that wasn't working with it, was Minecraft forge for 1.20.1, every other version of the same mod loader worked, every other mod loader worked and even the vanilla game worked. Forge was the only thing that couldn't be ran on it because of this driver. There was no other GPU I could that had the same issue, just the RX 570. But of course in true RU-vid fashion, I found an Indian RU-vid tutorial that explained the issue and how to fix it, which was to rollback to a previous driver.
i'm still on my rx 570, been 6 years now and i had only one problem once but it wasnt the gpu, in fact was a defected ram module that was causing windows to crash, other than that 100% fine, i'm planning to upgrade to an rtx card at some point, a friend of mine have both amd and nvidia and according to him, both had problems there is not a single brand free from having issues
I believe it's not always about brand loyalty with content creators, rather pure absolut performance. Since tech is most of their life and as a creator, especially the big ones, spending the extra money for the best component is a nobrainer for them, not to mention some even get things for free. I myself have been with team green ever since 8800GTX era, life with tech took a couple years of hiatus, returning to the scene with 780Ti, 980Ti and finally 1080Ti. The latter was my main card throughout the early RTX era since GPU scene in general slowed down in generational improvements and prices got stupidly high for the high end parts. I recently upgraded and built yet another new PC with RTX4090, sure they are even more riddiculous in pricing but my 1080Ti starts to struggle with modern games. As you might have noticed I only buy the best card for that generation each time and Nvidia is still the one on top, so my choice very is simple. Why am I telling you guys this? Well, since I only purchase the best card on the market, I would like to think alot of people, especially creators, also do the same. Sure there are brand loyalty and fanboys, but one can't deny Nvidia has been the best for a very long time. Being the best do come with it's own special perks within the enthusiast community.
Gahaha I love the little text Easter eggs you put into the vids. “One of the Steves” at 7:45 followed up by “The Other Steve” at 7:59 got a pretty good air-out-of-nose outta me. Keep up the good work, Iceberg
upgraded from a 3070ti to a 7900 XTX and had to return it. No matter what I did I could not get steady performance. Went as far as a fresh install of windows too. Went back to Nvidia and found a 3090 for cheap.
Personally speaking I'd love to see your video essays! I also started out with an R9 but mine was a 280X (used ex-mining card; my cats really loved the fact it made my PC double as a space heater lol). When it started artifacting in certain games, I got a GTX 1060 6GB. I'm currently on a RTX 2060 Super but I've always been RTX agnostic at best... maybe because I have an RTX 2060 Super lol but also nothing I really go for gaming-wise has had RTX added yet, so I can't yet render (cough) the enthusiasm. I still play at 1080p (I have a 1440p monitor, it's 75hz and I use it for work) and the games I play the most are relatively undemanding (read: old) so I'm okay for now... my very vague non-specific not at all subject to change plan is to upgrade my GPU before GTA6 so I hopefully I can wring another year or two out of the old girl yet lol
R9 280X is a rebranded 7970Ghz edition with a more mature BIOS and driver support. Interestingly, it was already ancient (in GPU terms) when Maxwell was established, yet it totally destroyed the GTX960. Now sure, the GTX960 was a heavily gimped card (disgusting specs, no SLI support, massively weak compared to the 970) - but the R9 280X was selling (decent Sapphire models) for £170 at the time the GTX960 came to market at £240. Imagine the 3 year old 7970Ghz beating the brand spanking new 960 by around 30%, despite costing 30% less. I had a few 280X's, only one ended up artifacting but I never took care of that one, and it was heavily used for many years. GREAT cards. Absolutely untouchable in terms of value by the end of their shelf time.
Honestly, you deserve way more audience and recognition! Great videos and commentary 👌 also the budget part hits well cos im always on the poor side and always come to look at budget options 😅
Upgraded from intel UHD 630 to Radeon HD 6370D to Vega 3 and then currently a 5700XT. No issues with AMD gpus. HD 6370D outperformed UHD 630 despite being a E2 3200 from 2011. My experience with AMD has been bug free and Great value for how long they has lasted.
It's been a great year for video game releases. Which is ultimately why I decided to upgrade my 2070 super to a 7900 XTX, haven't had any regrets so far.
I bought my 6950xt just a bit before the launch of the 7900 series and kind of regret it (even tho my wallet wouldve been pretty mad at me for buying it) but still the card does everything I need.
I upgraded to a 6900XT early this year (Got a sweet deal!) from an RX570. I later realized that there isn't much of a difference as you go up in quality, but don't regret as I know that this will last me longer than the RX570.
One of us! One of us! I stopped being one of Nvidia's customers when they released the 40-series and started selling DLSS instead of actual hardware. AMD seem to be the least profit-obsessed whilst also delivering a good product.
The only 40 series GPU that sells FG instead of actual hardware is arguably 4060 ti, which is still a big improvement compared to 3060 ti in terms of power draw. Everything else is significantly faster and draws less power.
I made the switch when the 6900XT came out, and upgraded from a 1080ti. Ray tracing wasn't in my mind at all, it was purely because I game on ultrawide 1440p and the 1080ti was starting to struggle at 60fps in newer titles at the time. I then had some regrets over time. Immediatly I noticed that it struggled in VR for some reason. Nothing demanding. Games like beatsaber would stutter randomly. Hopefully that's ficed now, but I can't test as I don't have the space for VR at the moment. The other regret came somewhat recently. Decided to get back into rendering and immediately remembered after setting up a scene and heading to render that I was used to using Nvidia Iray which isn't supported on AMD cards. Now a render that would have taken me 1 minute takes 10 on my CPU. I won't be switching back soon thanks to the crazy prices. But I will be going back to team green whenever the money lines up and the latest cards are worth it.
My journey over the years has taken me from a 1050 to a 1660 super, to a 3060 and finally to the 6800 XT I have today. Nvidia used to be appealing to me until I wanted to get into the higher end hardware as the price skyrockets dramatically. So when it came time to buy a new GPU, I saw a brand new Red Dragon 6800XT running for the same price as a 4060 Ti, it was a no brainer for me. Right now I’m holding out for another year or 2 on a CPU upgrade (currently using a 9900K) and obviously AMD is the most appealing for gaming right now but I would also like something with significantly more cores than what most AMD models are offering right now.
The 8000 Series got released as 2nd gen AM5 Chipsets. If you wait the mobo prices will fall anyway (AM5 is pretty expensive) and the next gen chipsets may be better.
I myself used only nvidia for years. My experience over amd was positive plus I love SLI (rip). I went from a 2080 ti to a 7900 xtx and its a great product. The difference is noticeable for sure and understanding how to overcome them is fun. Nice choice sir.
The one true SLI is 3Dfx Scanline Interleave. I had a GTX295 which is a dual card with internal SLI and absolutely hated it, software support was abysmal where you needed just the right patch level of everything, and it just did not feel good, the frame pacing was atrocious as was the latency. What do i even care about how many frames per second it says it does if it doesn't feel right? I mostly used it in single GPU mode, and i liked dedicating one of the split GPUs to PhysX, that worked very nicely.
Built my pc in 2022 with a 3070, upgraded to a 6800xt and watercooled it, love it. I made it pull over 400W in furmark the other day using Morepowertool The only strange issue I have is I have to clear my bios every time I disconnect the card for some reason, but my mobo bios isn’t up to date so maybe that’s it who knows, minor issue Building a pc for partner’s brother rn, his build will also be full red it’s just a better value and performance for his budget
You’re by far my favorite tech channel, Iceberg. Not having any stupid facial expression thumbnails it’s a great predictor of how a channel will be, honestly. Keep it up
Nice to see a little more AMD showing. Never owned one but I had an amazing experience with a 6800xt system for a few weeks and the experience overall was butter smooth.
Only reason I use nvidia gpu’s not because brand loyalty it’s because it has more optimization then Amd in most games. If it changes and they both get the same optimization then I’m going straight for the Amd cards.
bought my 6900 XT used once the prices started going down from the crypto boom, got an xtxh bin for under 600 USD, and it's been perfectly fine for 4k, its a bit overkill for the vast majority of games I play, and for the heavier games it's adequate to play optimized, but mostly high settings. It could use a repaste (and maybe some added thermal pads between the PCB and the back plate) but it still runs a stable overclock of just over 2700 MHz. Truly seems like one of the best value cards to get in 2023
I myself am switching to my first all AMD build. Going with a Ryzen 9 7950x paired with a Sapphire Tech Nitro+ RX 7900 XTX. Coming from an RTX 2070 laptop. This will be my first top of the line build. My best build before this not counting the laptop had an i5 4570, 16GB DDR3 1600MHz HyperX Fury RAM, and a Sapphire Tech RX 470 4GB. A fairly competent 1080p build.
Got myself a 7950X3D and 7900 XTX for gaming. Was a little underwhelmed by the CPU until; CPU undervolt 5-10% half cores disabled 6974MHz max auto-boost GPU +8% ram (FT)(2700 mhz) +5% core 3150mhz CPU 84.29W GPU 436W both max load 60-70c 50% fans Very happy with it now, the extremely fast boost allows for faster response times when compared to the mess that most games offer with 32 threads.
I dont know man, im not a fanboy of a brand, since gt240 - gtx650ti - 2060super i never have a problem with nvidia drivers, i use amd HD6000 once, it gives me headache, and i am an IT guy who build my own 1st computer, nope.. i aint gonna have that experience again. And im a busy 8-5 employe, i rather give nvidia 100$ more for less headache.
Tried to make the switch a year ago, I play competitive counter strike, and need specific settings and resolutions, I play 4:3 stretched and on my Radeon 6700xt I had a ton of artifacting and a purple ring around my cross hair. Switched back to Nvidia and the problem went away. Clearly an issue with the GPU, which is now in my wife's tower and it is a ripper. I'm extremely happy with the performance. I will stick with my 4080 and most likely won't be leaving Nvidia anytime soon, but that's me on a very very specific use case, Radeon cards are great and shouldn't be looked down on
Building a PC for my niece. She loves Minecraft. So I grabbed my HTPC that has a GTX 970 and i5 8400 (only really used it for steam remote play on TV) and decided to just swap the GPU. Checked the market and after a lot of comparisons I genuinely gave up on trying to get nvidia. An FE 3060 is going for the price of a 6700XT where I live. And since that HTPC is in SFF case (Fractal Design Core 500), I could not fit like any of the nVidias outside like 1650... Meanwhile I can fit in the aforementioned 6700XT easily. And will instead buy 6600XT because it goes for like $75 here and it is enough for her use case (and I do not want to make over the top PC for her due to thermals and the fact she is 7 and genuinely does not need better hardware for Paw patrol game, Lego world, Sims 4 and Minecraft). And in 5 years I might be getting her Intel GPU in her next upgrade. The current ones seem to be absolutely great value. I guess nVidia just forgot how to do mid-range. It's either highest end or a bunch of needless compromises.
I'd work on switching that case asap. No mesh front + no space for the gpu to breath is a problem for the temps. 84c edge and 100+ junction and almost 3000 rpm sounds like a nightmare.
Building my first PC in 15 years. Was originally going to go with a I5-13400F and a RTX 4060 GPU. After reading many reviews and combined with the recent cybermonday deals, I decided on an AMD Ryzen 5 7600x and a 6750 XT GPU
I've flipped a few times. The only issue that makes me wary of going back to AMD these days is the quality of the drivers. I had to return a 6600XT bought for my niece's PC because it would blackscreen on PC start.
I was having similar issues with my 6700xt, and then I found out the bios was not updated (should have checked that first), plus windows was replacing my driver's for whatever reason. I don't have those issues anymore, I honestly think it is worth giving a shot again, just make sure a few things are configured properly
I went from a 2070s to a 7900xt. The performance was night and day. The 7900xt comfortably shredded almost every single title I play past my monitors 170hz refresh rate. I'm also someone who isn't really RT minded because the visual difference between raster and RT is pretty much unnoticeable in standard gameplay. The only titles where RT makes a difference are in older game titles (which really screws with the games artstyle) as well as Minecraft Bedrock, which let's be honest; Java edition is more fun and looks better with community shaders over RT. The stock 7900xt is also a lot closer in size to a standard GPU than those in the 40 series class which will improve the longevity of my card making it easier to maintain and teardown when I need to re-pad or paste anything in the future.
I use a RX 580 (bought for $35) for my Test bench/RU-vid (40 inch 1080p TV) watching computer. It's the only AMD GPU I have ever owned or used. I have a 3080 12GB ($790 July 2022) in my main rig on a 27" Acer Predator 1440p monitor.
I went from a dusty old 1050 Ti I got 5 years ago to a 6950 XT. The performance margin is so vast that I couldn't possibly compare the two. A bit bottlenecked because I bought a R7 5700X instead of an 5800X, not realising they're only £20 different with their current price cuts. That's really my only regret. This rig should handle 2k in any game with _at least_ 60fps, even without upscaling, for a good few years.
I had a Radeon R9 270 in 2013 but GTA V was so poorly optimized that made me go with the GTX 970, and that was my card for a long time, until it decided to die, so i switched for a 2070 and later i came across a 3070 used from a mining rig. I loved the 3070, but i constantly run in the same problem, and the fact that my card was from a mining rig don't make the VRAM work the best it ever was... i decided this year to go AMD again, and will go big just to make sure this upgrade last a few years, this black Friday i will go 7900 XT, go from 8GB to comfortable 20GB, and have enough performance for productivity as well. NVIDIA is so disappointing right now, i bet the 5070 will be 12gb max as well.
I spent over a decade with Nvidia GPUs (which were good, no complaints) and in late 2023 bought AMD for the first time. I was somewhat worried at first because of what Iheard and read online but... it works, performance-wise it's fine, the adrenalin software is decent. So... yay
Always a pleasure to watch your videos. I've had AMD cards since the 7970 came out and for the most part it's been trouble free. Granted if you accidentally hit Auto overclock with a Vega 64 at least with luck it required a reinstall of Windows order to boot again two times in fact. I ended up getting a red devil ultimate 6900xt during pandemic for $1000 and have been really happy with it so far.
Was Building a pc and i planned to get a used 3070 for $500. Ended up getting a new MSI RX 6750 XT OC on Amazon for $400(after taxes). Absolutely loving it too.
Also switching from nvidia. Going from a 4070ti to a 7900xtx. I was happy with the 4070ti but sold another pc with that gpu and made some money and wanted an upgrade. So went with amd instead of the 4080. Atm im waiting for the card and hope it is as good as the reviews
@@darthstrukt happy so far. A big diffrence from the 4070ti. It is a bit powerhungry so sufficent cooling for the chassi is a must. Drawing 350-400w when gaming
I loved AMD since I got the RX 570, that card could run anything at the time at 60fps. When I saw that SAM feature I had to buy a ryzen CPU to make it work, so I got myself the R5 3600 for a REALLY cheap price, and it was a beast compared to my previous intel processor. So I'm full AMD now, got myself a RX 6950 XT GPU and a R7 5800X3D CPIU and Starfield runs in a average of 128fps on max settings no FSR.
unfortunately for people like me form central EU the slight upcharge on nvidia is worth it cause of the lower power consumptions since our energy costs skyrocketed the last years.
What an amazing video. Here's what's keeping me from switching to AMD. Wattage. In my country a 1kWh costs 0.5 dollars and for example a 4060 ti uses 140w while a 7700xt uses 240w. So yeah. A lot more money spent on power in the long run, thus making Nvidia a better deal for me.
One of my biggest issues with AMD is their software. Both the actual drivers as well as the user software just seems inferior in multiple ways that make me want to not switch.
Went from a 2060 to a 6750xt and im very happy thus far. The adrenaline software is a big plus as well. Super easy to overclock and undervolt your card even on a game specific basis. Makes nividia control panel feel like windows 95.
I’ve had 4090 suprim x liquid since it was launched. I’ve just recently picked up a 7900xtx for 750.00 and I’m pleasantly pleased. My use case is on a 77” lg g2 4K 120hz oled TV and 42” lg C2. For my use case the 7900xtx is doing just fine. Maybe I’ll sell the over kill 4090 and save for the next generation Gpu’s.
WOW! I started the video with a drink in my hand. Finished the video with the drink *still* in my hand! I don't know what you did since uploading in 1440p, but something is definitely right with this. Good job! Just reminded me why i am a Patriot! :D
I switched to AMD last august. I have been running nvidea since 2010. I switched to AMD since the 6700 xt was by far the best gpu within my upgrade budget. Since i didn't have a budget for good ray tracing performance, i decided to go with AMD since i would never need the RT performance anyways. My experience sp far has been excellent. I went from my 1080 barely doing stable 1080p anymore to running most games at 1440p higj to ultra, even running some older games at 4k. I love the AMD adrenalin drivers and have found them way easier to use than the geforce drivers. I see no reason to go back to NVIDEA again unless RT actually becomes more worth the looks to performance hit ratio in the future. Also AMDs continued support of open source upscaling and frame generatio tech makes me want to stay with them, since i feel my gpu will be supported for many more years than a nvidea counterpart.
I'm on AMD. Vega64 to be precise and getting a second one for luls and also because I paid a bit over 100€ for both of them, added up. repasted one with liquid metal and other one gets a red mod with custom watercooling items. they seem to be really liking lower temps, perf is nice for full HD and with watercooling, the heat will add up as a radiator in the winter. I don't really care of the power consumption as it is easily controllable anyways on these cards.
I went from a 1650 super, to a 2070 to a RX 6900 XT and I don't regret a thing. AMD Adrenaline alone is 1000% better than GeForce Experience. Plus, I just don't believe we should expect Nvidia to keep making gaming GPUs with how much they're raking in on AI cards.
This was a truly excellent video. I love channels that work on not using the latest like me, because there's just so much to get out of slightly older hardware, which frankly, likely has at least several more years of real usefulness. I think I've come across you now and again and you've won a sub for sure!
Reading this comment and I'm sitting here hoping my 5600 + rx 6600 build gets some good mileage for a few years hehe Budget is definitely where it's at for me. 4k and RT is just way out to lunch with pricing and performance on offer. And Nvidia is pretty shit at budget offerings in 2023, even looking at older gen gpus.
@@mukkah I totally agree! I "lucked" out and got a 4k TV for cheaper than higher end 1080p monitor, but I can assure you, top titles will not be played at 4k when it'd mean 30fps out of a 6800. Or even worse with RTX.
I feel empathy for the high end PC enthusiasts who are just getting hooooosed with performance to cost values in 2023 It's a fun hobby, was always already expensive, these days, couldn't imagine the hobby being as compelling lol @@tradingnichols2255
I switched from GTX 1080 to a 6900XT a few years ago and it's been great... only downside was I needed to upgrade my CPU after but that's the fun of being a PC hobbiest
Can you believe people actually argued that the first releases of RTX cards was a "major selling point"? Years later and we still don't have any real reason for RTX and the original cards suck at running any of it to be useful. Maybe in 10 years you'll see some use for RTX.
So, at the start of 2023, I went to Radeon, but I switched back to RTX after about a month. Went from a 2060 to a RX 6800. Overall, the card performed well… when it worked properly. In my case, any modern DX12 game I ran felt great. However, everything that’s DX11 or older were a huge hit or miss. Some would just get weird artifacting, and some would just freeze and stutter, making the experience unplayable. I also tested out streaming with it as well. AMD’s hardware encoder is better than before, but in comparison to NVENC and Quick Sync, it wasn’t as consistent with bitrate. I didn’t video edit during the time I had with that card, so can’t say much on that. As a result, decided to return the RX 6800, and got myself a RTX 3070. Going from 16GB to 8GB definitely sucked, but since I’m not playing the latest and greatest games atm, I haven’t really experience VRAM issues tbh. Really wanted AMD to work out for me, but with the stuff I do, NVIDIA in my case is more viable.
I've bought (and still using) RX6700XT with AMD 5600 (for my budget build) for over a year now and I must say, the last few months were rather unsatisfactory. Yes, I can run Automata at ultra 1440p with ~90fps but other issues really bugged me, such as the FPS lock on certain games like Tomb Raider, or frequent freeze during LoL. Bluetooth driver also casually when offline if the power is accidentally cut off, and the PC also randomly crashed 2-3 times per months (all my components were brand new). I think it was the AMD driver that messed with my window, idk, but I will switch to NVIDIA as soon as I have the means.
My first rig used the RX5700 Sapphire AIB, and was plagued by driver issues until after I’d ordered a replacement card in the 3080ti. Haven’t had a single issue with the 3080ti beyond trying to manipulate the PCIE clip for the card on the mobo between the card and the DH15 cpu cooler. Performance was outstanding on the 5700 non xt, but the driver issues were only solved literally years after release.
I saw the vram issue coming a mile away, I went from a 1070 t.i. to a rx6950 11 months ago. I picked up the 6950 for 600 us. The 1070's power still felt FINE but I kept constantly running out of vram at 3440 X 1440. For now I can run modern games at close to max settings and medium settings for years to come.
I've had a RTX 3080ti for a little over a year, though I had no plans to upgrade this generation I've recently had PC issues and thought I had it narrowed down to the GPU. Since I didn't want to wait 3 weeks for an RMA and not have a pc I ended up ordering a 7900xtx for 880. Funny thing was it ended up being my PSU, but since I have a better card now I'm just gonna switch to the AMD card. From the little I've done so far I've noticed AMD cards still seem to be a little behind when it comes to video encoding, but that's mostly due to a lack of support in some software. Also funny thing is the last time I had a AMD card was a 290x also, lol.
I got the 6800XT back in February and have been quite happy with it, but it definitely started showing some age on my 3600 CPU, so I upgraded today to a 5800x3D. Still doing benchmarking and testing some game settings, but I I was able to get both upgraded for the same cost as an upper end NVIDA card.
I had a gtx 960 (i was building my computer during gpu shortage, so i took a hand me down from my brothers pc) i recently got a radeon 6750 for a good price. Mega upgrade. So far I’m quite happy with it
The sole reason i chose amd in my fist gaming PC in 2016 (RX480) was that G-Sync monitors were much more expensive than Freesync ones, and i was after that smooth, tearing-free experience. Stuck with them ever since and currently using a 6750XT
