during off peak, there are 15 minutes interval T8 train that starts from Sydenham, St Peters, Erskineville, Redfern, City Circle and back to Sydenham. I think just need 4 sets of train would cover such pattern. During peak there are Macarthur/Campbell town originated trains as well.
They are ridiculous rather leave the trains at train yards than actually running to pick up passengers. T3 is short two such services between 6pm and 7pm peak hour
IMO the T8 express should go to Central via Sydenham instead of going through airport stations, and airport stations should be an all station to Macarthur via Revesby, with half terminating at Revesby.
@@Woodland26 Your off-peak assumption about the T8 train, originating from Sydenham, is incorrect. During off-peak (and last hour of peak), trains start from Sydenham, then St Peters, Erskineville, Redfern, Central, city circle, and back to central and Redfern. Here is where you made the error of assuming the trains carry on back to Sydenham. No. Every half an hour, the same train extends beyond Redfern toward Liverpool via Regents Park; and every half an hour the train terminates at Redfern (All out all change). This works like clockwork until peak hour starts (close to 4pm). All info are publicly available info on your Trip view app, you just need to know how to track them
I miss the original 2017 ST timetable where it was easier to get K sets from Inner west to city outer circle during afternoon and evening peaks after the S and C sets were withdrawn. This timetable has only morning peaks from that line, what a shame only way to get them is during morning peak. A new routine for me. I usually get them from Homebush. Also the 2017 ST timetable was the last time seeing silvers more common and the S and C sets on the network.
If the figure of 46000 pax a day using the T8 to and from the airport is correct then I think at least 6 trains per hour would be necessary even with that undesirable surcharge the airport puts on to subsidise its carparks.
T2 and T3 approaching Cabramatta needs to fixed. The 3-4 mins stoppage time at Carramar is absolutely non-sensical - instead of holding up the T3 trains at Carramar, they should be halting T2 trains at Canley Vale. Doing so will not impact materially on existing set-up, but allow commuters to actually take advantage of the shorter distance travelling on T3 rather than T2; what's more, commuters on T3 will substantially shorten their interchanging time at Cabramatta/WarwickFarm/Liverpool if they wish to proceed past Liverpool (ie travel to Glenfield/Leppington/Campbelltown) Whoever wrote the new ttimetable still carries the old CityRail stone age dinosaur mindset, and do not have one ounce of common sense. 😢
Personally I would have made the T4 stop at Erkineville and St Peter’s a rerouted all T8 trains to run through the airport line. Would of simplified it more
@@jdouble-l19978 back to the stone age, when they leave trains idle at train yards , and constantly moving empty non-customrr serving trains around the network throughout the day
Apparently, there will be another timetable in 2025 following the completed Bankstown line conversion. That timetable will probably put St Peters and Erskineville on the Eastern Suburbs and Illawarra Line.
@@jdouble-l19978 correct mate, that's why they upgraded only the T4 platforms at those stations. This T8 shuttle service is just an intermediate solution and will eventually be phased out once the new metro does open.
@@erroreliminator2.076 they’ll like do the same thing that happened during the school holidays, where in the off peak Waterfall trains don’t stop at either St Peters/Erskineville but instead stop all stations between Wolli and Hurstville, whilst the Cronulla via Kogarah services stops at both. And in the peak, Waterfall trains stop at St Peters but not Erskineville, whilst Cronulla trains stop at Erskineville but not St Peters. The Hurstville via Banksia peak hour service doesn’t stop at either. This actually worked surprisingly well (but it was school holidays so capacity wasn’t tested fully)
@@SydneyTrainspotterfair point. I just feel like people are arguing about relatively immaterial changes about stopping pattern and frequency of services on T8 when nothing dwarfs the mess that's been imposed on T3 and to some extent T2 (apart from those inner city stations). I found people arguing about train frequency of and stopping pattern for inner city stations arrogant and self-serving. Any change is immaterial you may get a seat or more spaces but you get home or to work at about the same time whichever timetable you are on. Mind you, on a lighter note, more and more cyclists are using the trains - imagine them taking over all the spaces on the trains going forward haha
This is what I'd like to see in the 2025 timetable, once the Sydenham-Bankstown conversion is complete (though most are unlikely): * St Peters and Erskineville to be served by T4. * the T8 to be split into two: the T8 (retaining its green colour) to be rebranded the South Line and operate from Macarthur/Campbelltown to the City Circle via Sydenham all day round, and a new line, the T10 Airport Line, to be coloured purple and operate from Revesby to the City Circle via the Airport. There would be an interchange at Revesby to switch between the two lines. * the T9 Northern Line to no longer stop at Burwood (meaning customers at that station will no longer have a direct link to the North Shore). * the T2 terminus at Parramatta to extend to Blacktown, allowing Granville customers to travel to stations between Westmead and Blacktown inclusive without having to change at Parramatta. * Toongabbie, Pendle Hill, Wentworthville, Harris Park, Granville, Clyde and Auburn to no longer be served by the T1 Western Line; the former four stations would only be served by the T5 Cumberland Line and the extended T2 line (wound be rebranded the Greater Western Sydney and Leppington Line), and the latter three only by T2. * Flemington and Homebush, as well as all stations between Croydon and Macdonaldtown inclusive to only be served by T3. This would allow for express T2 services. * one or two AM services to run from Liverpool to Bankstown, and two or three to run in the reverse direction in the PM (similar to how the Cumberland Line ran prior to October 2013), to allow customers to travel directly between the two areas without changing at Regents Park.
