Now the T3 Bankstown line is no longer, it's a shame they never created a Bankstown to Parramatta or Blacktown service, Bankstown to Liverpool via Granville service or a Bankstown to Hurstville service. Great update Phil and yes it is sad to see the station cut in half.
There's a reason why there was never any regular service from Bankstown to Granville as the only junction from Berala to Auburn is only single track and would require precise timing to not block both the Old South and Western Lines, it just wouldn't be feasible to introduce a frequent service in that direction unless the junction were to be upgraded to double tracks. As for Bankstown to Hurstville it would take too long as it would have to go around the City Circle in order to make it down the Illawarra as the junctions at Sydenham have no connection from Marrickville to Tempe except via the freight line which then has no connection the electric lines.
@@JenperTV At the time when the freight line connection from Marrickville to Tempe was electrified, it could have happened and not as a frequent service. Now it's only used for diesel freight trains or electric motor and steam locomotive tourist trains. I recall back in the 90s going to Fairfield from Town Hall one day as the service took an alternative route via Bankstown and Granville as it took almost 2 hours to reach Fairfield.
I notice that when the train in in operation on the t6 it doesn’t say the stations on the display it just says welcome aboard for the whole trip and the driver has to do the announcements
So the train would run from Lidcombe to the the city via Bankstown with a high frequency service during peak periods, so now people along the line from Lidcombe to Bankstown have to deal with a 20 minute headway all day, that's ridiculous. If I have this wrong please correct me.
Towards the end of the video I noticed when you were filming the departure of the train at the end of the platform there was what seemed to be a track diagram, it would have been nice for you to have zoomed in for us to have a closer look. I enjoyed the video.
The track diagram there was for the shunt neck (Bankstown Loop) that was implemented previously. Services during degraded mode would short-terminate at Bankstown P2, shunt forward into the loop and await an inbound path onto P1 to return back to the City.
The new T3 is just a branch of the T2, and its half hour frequency is a result of being a branch. They really should consider a shuttle from Bankstown to Liverpool once metro is converted so that Liverpool passengers have two different routes to city and more frequency
This will eventually happen also only when D set fully entered in service and Oscars fully freed up from the intercity lines and operate on surbaban line and maybe it will run shuttle services from Liverpool to Bankstown.
@@sydneytrainsvlogsThat would require a double reversal. There's no facility for trains to enter platform 2 from the west. They'd have to arrive on 1, then reverse into the centre track, reverse again into 2, then reverse to depart.
So you think they’ll ever see sense and make a Liverpool to Bankstown shuttle as well as the lidcombe one? The one seat journey from Liverpool to the city on the new T3 would be slower and less frequent than a shuttle ride to Bankstown then metro
I feel like they could have extended the metro to sefton instead of forcing interchange at Bankstown switching With metro and trains. For sefton, platform 1 will be metro services to tallawong while platform 2 services to city circle via regents park and Liverpool. Making metro ending at Bankstown is kind of useless to be honest because building a plaza can be longer than converting train line to metro standard.
There are outline plans to extend the metro to Liverpool via a new more direct route towards Bankstown Airport and that general direction instead of circling around the Georges River. Note that these plans aren't really plans, it's just something that's been mentioned in various Metro documents as a like "by 2056" or so plan. I certainly get your point though. From a passenger perspective, it would make sense to extend the metro towards Regents Park or Sefton so that a shuttle like the T6 isn't necessary. Apparently, when the clearways program was happening, the platform at Lidcombe for T3 (now T6) services was also marked as a potential terminating spot for the Metro (yeah, I suppose the plans have existed for that long!) There's a lot of inconveniences raised by the conversion, and some questions as well. Personally, I think an idea would be, once the metro is extended to Liverpool (*if* it is), then construct a Light Rail station at Bankstown and convert the line through Yagoona and Birrong to Light Rail. Then, before reaching the Sefton Triangle, the line ascends onto the street, and can extend to, well, whoever knows where (towards Lidcombe? maybe connect up to the Parramatta Light Rail at Olympic Park? The government has shown interest in extending the PLR to Bankstown as a long term plan). Sorry for the long and winding paragraph of a response! I've just been well researched on this.
Can imagine some poor old Asian grandma or grandpa asking when there will be train to Cabramatta which unfortunately there won’t be anymore of 😅 Train only turn onto branch line now 😂
An excellent question posed in some of the comments is how this arrangement at Bankstown could be converted to allow the metro to be extended to Liverpool. I've noticed that the Bankstown Metro station doesn't have quite the same look of 'permanence' as others. The Bankstown station area is also fairly cramped as regards options for both extending the metro and still using the Lidcombe link in meaningful ways that are possible to actually engineer. So it might be that the current station/s will not be what is used/converted when an extension to Liverpool is constructed. For example, one option is to take the metro underground from just west of Punchbowl (next station east from Bankstown), to a station under the Bankstown CBD or station area before it extends on further to Liverpool. That may also enable better use to be made of the current Lidcombe to Bankstown tracks. For example, it could be left at the surface or undergrounded from south of Yagoona, with a 'Bankstown' station connected to the Bankstown Metro station (Martin Place style) and then continue south to form a link with the airport line at say Revesby or Padstow. At the moment we don't have much in the way of such lightly loaded 'cross-town' lines to shorten suburb to suburb travel. If this was in the USA, it would be a candidate for using tram-trains rather than heavy rail. If it was Denmark it would probably be a candidate for a light automated metro, except for the freight and heavy passenger rail sharing the tracks beyond Birrong. (See 'RM Transit' on RU-vid for great explanations of both systems) I don't mean to suggest that is the only or best option. However, it's informative and fun to consider options 'outside the box' compare their relative advantages and disadvantages with others and use that to help choose the most suitable one to discuss, promote or pursue.
I have spoken to construction staff. There will be NO DIRECT LINK between the Metro & Heavy Rail platforms. This is a real wasted opportunity. Also, P2 could feasibly be lengthened to 8 cars, albiet with substandard clearances & rearranging track at the west end.
*between the Metro & Sydney Trains platforms. FTFY. They’re _both_ heavy rail networks. Light rail networks like trams, monorails and London’s DLR run smaller trains at slower speeds and operate between stations/stops that are closer together.
I like to call these short trains "baby trains". Also, it must be an extremely boring drive for the train drivers between Bankstown and Lidcombe. Back and forth dozens of times between those two stations over and over and over again!
Pity you glossed over the new structure now anchoring the end of the overhead. I assume there is something similar on the city side of the new plaza to terminate the Metro overhead. Am I right in assuming the Metro will use the existing overhead wires but possibly with new substations for the supply
@@sydneytrainsvlogsIt's predominantly every 15 minutes on weekdays, 20 minutes on weekends and public holidays, with variations due to trackwork diversions.
You would of thought the Metro would of come up along Platform One, then walk across for the Lidcombe Service. Then the extra metro platform opposite it. 3 platforms side by side. Only my opinion.
Once the platform gets re-extended to 8 cars It should replace the all stop T2 trains from parramatta. Parramatta is a tricky spot to terminate as it basically narrows the T5 to a single track there, thus causing a bottleneck. All stop trains from Bankstown to the city I think would be a good idea as it will take the bottle neck out, thus allowing for more frequent T5 trains, and allowing for direct trains to the city for residents in Yagoona and Birrong
It will not be re-extended. These shuttles are permanent. Bankstown to City will actually increase chances of bottlenecking on the Inner West & City Circle sections.
@@SamSitarit’s not just about capacity. If you factor in the frequency of the metros and their speed, they have a higher capacity than trains. More standing room too.
Maybe they will have city circle services from Bankstown in the future so people that lives in yagoona and birrong will finally have direct services to Sydney CBD.
@@Baxiljn oh yea I remember there used to be sydneham via Strathfield from city where it goes through the inner west, then through via regents park and Bankstown and then terminate at sydneham.
I am sure that won't happen for a few years yet, but if and when it does happen, they would need to cut through what will soon be the plaza and rejoin the track.
@sik249 From what I see in this video, I think they would have to modify the bridge support pylons to extend the platforms further west or rebuild the bridge.
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A lot of comments suggesting there should be a Liverpool-Bankstown shuttle. The Liverpool to City via Regents Park services in the past always attracted far more passengers than those going to Bankstown from Liverpool. And once the latter got to Bankstown many people got off, and virtually a new load of passengers would get on to go to the city. Liverpool to the City via Regents Park was always the quickest service to the city, and will be again. On that basis the best value for the most passengers is the arrangement you now have. The capacity to add more services to a Liverpool-Bankstown shuttle is very limited by track sharing by multiple services between Liverpool and Cabramatta, especially during peaks. If anything, more Cumberland line services would be justified than Bankstown shuttles. In addition there is an M90 bus connecting Liverpool and Bankstown stations. It's slower than the train but runs every 10 minutes in the peak. It's a very realistic option, especially for people who already live just east of Liverpool along its route. My point is you can't just look at what suits people making a specific journey, but need to consider all the other journeys people want to make using those lines. Liverpool to City via Regents Park wins easily over Liverpool to Bankstown in terms of passenger numbers. And, if you want to train from Liverpool to Bankstown (or vice versa) you can change at Regents Park. And you can probably operate most services so the trains meet each other on opposite platforms at Regents Park for a changeover (as was the pattern in the the past). What I just described was the old operating pattern when Bankstown trains didn't go to Liverpool at all, but went through Lidcombe and Bankstown to circle back to the city and vice versa. Why did they stop doing that? Because the Bankstown line trains were using up train paths between Homebush and Lidcombe (where it narrows to only 4 tracks) desperately needed to supplement crowded Western Line services. That's why Lidcombe platform 5 was built to allow some Bankstown services to start and finish at Lidcombe without blocking other services on platforms 1 to 4.
Oh yeah. The carlingford line, which I did took a handful of times before it was permanently shutdown. Back then Clyde was a transit station lol, now no more.
