Sympathy for the Villain. 

not me i always favored the villains or at least, the darker characters seen as psycho evil (but not?) dangerous insane damaged goods loser etc etc.

You are forgetting all the edgy kids who say they like villains to seem quirky :'D

@@rossmcdonagh1554 Except Zuko is not edgy. He is serrated.

*root

*heroes, not hero’s. Hero’s is possessive, heroes is the proper spelling in this context.

yet milk is so cheap?

@@joenathan8594 yes

@@joenathan8594 milk is just lazy cheese

Wait, cheese is expensive? Fuuuuu

yea

even something along the lines of: how to write bad main characters? Because I don't see that being the case ;)

@@eberlix it is very common to use opposites of stated views in essays to point out their flaws and show examples of what not to do, so it can be used as a manual on what not to do when making a bad main character.

@@addeum7766 But then an Avatar main character is still being used as an example of how to write a good main character, and not as a example of how to write a bad main character.

Avatar is such a perfectly made show. Watch at any age and you will still wnjoy

@@eberlixnah they would use Legend of Korra for that video essay

Lawful neutral

Excellent argument. Unfortunately, I farted.

​@@yeetboiwhatyesplease2095 😢

@@yeetboiwhatyesplease2095it feels getting flash bang, in the good way

probably shouldn't said that way...

Almost everyone has some reason to be sympathetic towards them and they still manage to write incredibly compelling stories

except castle in the sky "haha yes I will use the power of laputa to conquer the world because... reasons!"

@@nathanielwindsor7679 Ill put my hand up and admit im no aficionado of the Ghibli films :') I'll take you word for it and do some... reasearch ? :'D

Its always seemed to me that ghibli movies are more about overcoming inner conflict and the hardships of life than fighting another person. To me they feel like pixar for adults.

@@m_winewood I agree from what I've seen the endings are often much less important to the story than the pivotal moments of character development along the way

You are at 69 likes so even though I would like I cant

"MY CABBAGESSS!!"

Dat poor man Each day his cabbages gets destroyed

ik this is a joke but op REALLY said that a dude who had an abusive father had worse pain than: a child whose entire people, family, and culture completely wiped out, a girl whose mother died and almost had HER culture wiped out, a boy whose father left him to go to war and had to be raised by sister. i know zuko was a complex character with complex pain but oh my GOD

Nah it’s toph when she senses what happens in sokka’s tent

In that moment, he seems to yell out for the pain to finally assist him for once instead of hurting him in trying to bend lightning to his will, only for the universe to not answer his calls once again.

@@SuperRavensfan101 that was hella gud shakespear

I ship Zuko and Azula

@@thegoldendiamond6762 you remember that they are brother and sister, right

@@thegoldendiamond6762 obvious bait ☠️

A bit like Dracula from Castlevania; his biggest flaw as a villain is that he's not as big a monster as he thinks he is.

You say that but like… Yeah, even I liked Azula more than Zuko cause while Zuko is a hero on the wrong side… Azula knows she’s wrong but continues anyway.

​@@TheRealHelveticayeah i do believe zuko is a good example to use for the essay but I really thought it was even more important to go over azula's character arc and tragedy. our sympathy for zuko is never questioned as he ultimately becomes part of the protagonists, but the complexities of azula's character would have been way more interesting to go over for the "true" sympathy for the villain.

Bro you have to see "Attack on Titan"

@@devnathhansda6738 what does aot have to do with this

@@gavin7841 I think he is talking about the current state with eren and how the tables turned a bit far fetched haha

Cabbage man, the greatest character ever

True

The thing is - doofenshmirtz is not actually a villain, he's just as much a protagonist as Perry, maybe even more

Yup

He is a wholesome man who is obsessed with the idea of being a villain, but even then he limits himself to only the tri-state area

or better, kingpin from spiderman that scene where miles defeats him in the spider verse is amazing

Even though he's a villain, he cares for her daughter

killing joke 2016 yes?

Everybody needs an uncle Iroh in their life. Hell, I need one.

I have a friend who is basically the Uncle Iroh of my life and I have such a powerful urge to make her proud that it's not even funny.

Your 100% right

azula has uncle iroh though

@@sainbaatar518 well. Yes but no. Iroh agreed with Zuko about azula being crazy. So they teamed up to try to take her down

Edgelord

@@palereaper He just said the definition of an antagonist,he ins't a edgelord

@@nbanextlegend7497 i disagree

@sayunoqué hate? all I did was call them an edgelord

@sayunoqué that’s what you think

Jet Noises*

thomas edison for me

Zuko works as the villain for Season 1 atleast.

I always thought of Zuko more as a Byronic hero. Iroh’s presence always made me root for Zuko even if he’s meant to be the antagonist at the beginning. The show isn’t really structured as a single narrative anyway. Zuko has his own narrative of which he is the protagonist even to the viewer while Azula falls directly as the antagonist in Aang’s personal narrative, Zuko’s personal narrative, and the overarching narrative of the world’s struggle against the fire nation. As the three narratives converge in the back end of the show Zuko is a clear cut protagonist aiding in the defeat of Ozai and Azula as well as offering redemption for some of Katara’s more controversial decisions made out of ignorance in the final season. I think start to finish Zuko is painted as a protagonist in some light which is why I can classify him as a Byronic hero.

He starts as a villain but becomes a hero. He realizes the flaws of his outlook and changes.

That’s what’s known as a reformed villain.

That line hit me hard when I first watched

@@minecraftveteranyoda4476 Yeah, it is a great line. It does so much for Zuko, Azula and Ozai. Like it sets up the kind of person Ozai is even more so and also lets us know Azula is powerful while also showing how tragic Zuko's life is.

Azula: “My own mother called me a monster! She was right of course, but it still hurt!”

@@Flome810 I mean if we are doing Avatar quotes we will be here all day.

@@TheZebbga Then I better go ask uncle iroh to make some jasmine tea

That's because nobody could let that movie fucking go.

okay but frozen didn't have a guy getting his brains blown out

@@LoydAvenheart there were machete attacks in a showing of frozen 2 tho

@@LoydAvenheart that's only because I didnt have to suffer thorough it with you.

@@Gr3nadgr3gory lmao

I went to the comments looking for this exact comment and I’m glad someone else noticed it :)

also at 21:00 the "whiteroom" cover goes hard too

@Names Don't Matter no

No cap

@@ibuk9631 -cap

I never actually saw him as an actual villain

He's the most interesting character and my favorite character in the whole The Last Airbender show.

That and “Hi, Zuko here,”

Having been a patient before, I am now incredibly concerned there's a bomb in me somewhere.

@@thepepperronin6845 Underrated Comment

Quotes are magical

Is this quote from a show or something or not

Excellent example

*insert Seinfeld reference*

he said it

RISE

BOTTOM TEXT

WOKE AF

yea but thats a different kind of villain :p

Media in general tbh... They show themselves as the hero while they're the worst of villains...

Twitch robbed me of a lot of money, so I personally dislike them more. But YT has done shit to me even, and it's getting worse as time goes on.

It’s faceless and inhuman.

Top 5 most evil Anime Villians ever

It's not a tragedy to us.

@@nevaehhamilton3493 how is getting your entire neighborhood wiped out by gojira's atomic breath not a tragedy ?

Tbf, Godzilla was fine until mankind dropped atomic bombs on his habitat. Godzilla attacking mankind was an act of rage and revenge in most versions.

@@justasoulsfan9805 Doesn't he feed off nuclear radiation?

@@soysource3218 Yes, once he was mutated, nuclear energy became his fuel. Before, he was just a normal semi- aquatic dinosaur which fed on fish.

But hey that’s just a theory a game theory.

Well I'm disappointed he didn't mention Ice king from Adventure time in this video

@@subifyouhatetiktokandreddit234 It’s funny how we as a kids just think he is just a stupid villain who is there just for laughs and giggles... until we find out about his past. It’s pretty smart of the creator, kids are watching and we grow up along side the characters while learning one by one on why they act this way.

@@giornogiovanna5214 forgot the very necessary comma there, sir.

@@subifyouhatetiktokandreddit234 don’t forget mega mind, it’s a kids movie but it shows how there needs to be balance with a villain and hero.

What makes this even better is that Palpatine didn't make Anakin turn into Darth Vader. He simply showed Anakin the door, and Anakin willingly walked through

Interestingly enough, because Ankain didn't kill Padme, and by the time he killed Obi- wan they weren't close, and because u have to kill someone close to u to become a sith, Anakin was never a true sith lord

@@darthdarkborg3857 Very true indeed

Lol I'm such a ner

Nerd

i found him so completely irregular. not like in a way where he is random, but in a way it’s impossible to understand his mentality from a real world and rational perspective.

I absolutely did not have any empathy for him, considering the fact that i am not a deranged psychopath, but yeah he was a really good villain

Book's good too

saying that implies he's a villain at all

@@estlin2001 Well, as Emp talks about with Prince Zuko, we are viewing almost everything in the Mario franchise from Mario's point of view but if we were to view it from Waluigi's perspective, Mario is the real villain.

God can't be a villain

@@thekingdedede I'm not caught up on his lore soo how exactly is he a villain to wah?

@@antoniodunbar1643 Waluigi really isn't a villain, I'd say he's a combination of Prince Zuko and Syndrome, just trying to seek acceptance and appreciation but ultimately gets rejected by the world. "Wah" is also just a sound Waluigi makes and is popular for.

Same I was also surprised

memento mori

Morality is at its very core is quite objective. It comes from respect for another's existence.

That same movie treats nature vs nurture, and how a good person can be pushed to become a "villain" despite not being what would birng them happiness while a person with and unremarkable sense of justice is forced to become the hero from the weight of expectations

it be like that sometimes

In a way it's *also* good vs. evil, and light vs. dark, and water vs. fire, and soft vs. tough. It is the ultimate embodiment of thing needing opposites to exist. Without a concept of darkness, light would be meaningless.

Very few people really regard it in either of those manners actually. It's more about dualism, the concept of Yin needing Yang and vice versa. In fact, Yin is characteristic of femininity and negativity, and Yang is characteristic of masculinity and positivity.

132 likes nice,

It represents the bad in the good and the good in the bad

"in reality"

Sadly for Batman, by protecting Society you help it destroying lives.

Most of us wish we were like batman, but we know that we are the joker

@@Graveyard55 nobody wants to be either batman is a brooding, sad, self destructive man, willing to give up everything to protect the innocent and complete the mission. he does this so often that his own sidekicks, the people he's fought by, don't want to be like him, some of them even hate him. if you see batman for the symbol he is, anyone would want to be him, but if you see batman for the person he is, nobody wants to be him. the joker is a lunatic that kills for chaos and attention. all he wants is for batman to break his sense of morality and kill him. i don't care how insane you think you are, nobody wants to bring someone down by their own death. the joker you're talking about isn't the joker you want to be like, the joker you're thinking of is, though.

@@jockeyfield1954 Peach.

Pog

same

same

same

Especially one who's harmed you. It's something I fail at.

@@longhairdontcare122 Forgiveness is the path of maturity.

And also big proof of maturity.

Vader clearly overshadows him in public perception though

@@wspann1967 Yes, but you feel tons of sympathy for Vader. Palps? He's JUST evil. No sad story, no relatable background, no nuance, just unapologetically evil,

@PewDie-Ton EX Legends. That very few have read and are now not canon. For all general audiences, Palps is just evil, while Vader was only like that in A New Hope, in Empire, you learn who he is and in Return, he turns good again, more or less. And the Prequels are all about him and his suffering as Anakin.

Only if you have a charimsatic villain with a fun personality, like you just gave an example of.

TEND to be, not always. There are tons of villains who are just bad. Taking the example of A:tLA, Ozai was just pure bad;no layers no reason, he was just bad.

Like some black influencer celebrity encouraging the Black Lives Matter protesters to riot, then when the mob reached his street he started tweeting for "these animals to get the hell out". Most gratifying media of that year.

Simple and accurate, the truth.

Its even more funny because the Joker is a socialist wet dream revenge film.

Joker is overrated, it is not as insightful or transformative as it pretends to be when you look at its writing and story. And i personally believe that parasite, the movie that won the Oscar that year was a far better social critique and a better movie in general. However i will say that Joaquin Phoenix's acting was an amazing accomplishment and a career high.

@@astrospect The elites are not socialist. They are soulless capitalists carrying a face of progressivism in order to subdue the public

Yeah I definitely don't agree, idk maybe I'm just sane

@@arbitarious Youve never seen someone get got in a show or movie and thought "fucking finally, cunt deserved it!"? Joffrey anyone?

This two 👆 are full of it.

@Ddtrdctrdcgrdcgrdc The first one deleted. Duh

@Ddtrdctrdcgrdcgrdc You apparently. 🤷

@Shinra Tensei So we should understand the POV from villains like these: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-15J39c0U9bc.html 4:20 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ZMeKFH5ZbRo.html

Thats bullshit They always are trying to kill people only cuz they wanna

@@LaloSalamancaGaming42069 no

@@LaloSalamancaGaming42069 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-YzfUj-m2I6I.html

@@hopingstare8980 yes they do

I'm da joka babee -saltydkdan

Im d jok bab

i d jk bb

@@CuackTheDucks idjb

He did NOT say that

Gotta get those clicks per minute on their articles.

If whatever the hell the media is about is heroic, I want to be as villainous as possible. They are the greatest enemy to the people in our time, as a certain recent president once said. I don't even care if people like or hate him, I just saw him as a kind of breath of fresh air from the totalitarianism of the institutions that govern us (I know he was partially in the water with them, but at least he wasn't fully submerged. They've made that clear for 6 years now). Basically, I wish the left and right would just go joker mode, hold hands for a second, and focus on the true enemy rather than tearing each other up at our own expense and to the delight of soulless oligarchs.

@@henrylansing9734 I seriously don’t know why people even defend them like I’ve seen people trash on fox and defend cnn as a reputable news source when they are both trash and started race riots last year during summer and divided America

I wouldn't be surprised if that's what their mission. Tragedies have always been used as ratings boosters for the media in general. If they can use those incidents to bully people to spread their false realities while boosting their ratings, then no wonder the American media has devastating lack of trust from the public.

Like that one song so excellently says: The news just LOVES dirty laundry

You know about the maker of Bayonetta? It's that way for a reason and it should be that way because it forces people to become notorious as well. People who have a lower value than somebody else should not waste the higher-ups time unless the higher up is ok with it

@@mikeyvesperlick6982 People do not have lower value because they have less career success. I'm the same man as I was before I got big on RU-vid, and I'm proud of who I am. I absolutely refuse to believe that I'm better than someone just because my channel is bigger. It's an incredibly immoral and short sighted way to judge someone. Judge them by the content of their character, not their popularity or material wealth.

@@MahDryBread The latter statement moreover applies to monarchs and masters of their useful craft as in nutritional science, engineering, agricultural knowledge, etc, but you only have more subs than others because you either played your cards better, have played more, or the fact that you have played at all.

@@MahDryBread You know that it is hard to argue that a lack of action is the ultimate sin right

@@MahDryBread Holy shit I was just watching one of your videos when I got this in my notifications.

Oh no poor guy

Got me cracking up💀

@George Zhang I-🤣

Aang had his entire tribe killed

@@elevate5731 Aang Is a cabbage destroyer and he deserved it

This!

He was talking about the older episodes.

He acts that way no matter his environment is and you weren't supposed to want to be like him. You were supposed to see Squidward as what happens when you dwell in pessimism and nihilism

@@zk0rned Yeah,but its like Benson with Mordecai and Rigby,we relate and root for them,but if you see it right,benson clearly has reasons to be angry at them because of mord and rigboy actions,just like spongebob and Patrick that are annoying af.

He did some things to deserve karma......and then there was plenty of cases where he wasn’t even in the wrong

He said he was a try hard in school, so probably pretty good.

truee

Probably more authentic than good

The thing that gets me is the big words. That’s why I love his content so much

Well the Joker literally said that Batman completes him

They complete each other

One For Chaos, One for order Not necessarily good or evil

actually, batman's direct opposite is killer moth. many people forget that killer moth is actually the yin to batman's yang since he's a bit of a joke character from the silver age of comics while joker is from the gruesome golden age

Literally they are. Both of them are completely insane but they are yet completely different people and they turned out completely different

😐

Watch a RU-vid video about it or something bro

@Israel100israel he shits on people while playing csgo surf servers

timestamp?

22:50

Yes and people may not talk about it but Hitler did not have good early days but still don't sympathize with him he is still a monster

@@kousand9917 A monster that somewhat helped Germany

No a villain is just a person raised to become a villain !!

@@lorec73 Well, now Germany holds Europe in their hands. So that dude may be right as much as I don't like to think that.

@@lorec73 i like to think the same thing, just the thought of him having some merits makes me freeze.

I agree

yea good villains always make you route for them a little bit

A sure sign of the degeneration of society but it's understandable, villains and anti heroes exhibit flaws and vices which are all too relatable to us given that we're all imperfect. Rather than idolise perfection and characters with virtues we now continue to seek comfort in relatability for those as imperfect as ourselves.

I mean the villiain can often have more motivation for something than the hero, whose main purpose is just to stop him. *ahem* Funny Valentine

I've always liked villians more because they always have so much character than the brainless "I'll stop you!" heroes

Dark spyro:agree to disagree.

"Once you realize your mistakes, it turns to acceptance and correctness"

Sounds like something a 13 year old "depressed" white girl has in their Instagram bio

@Henry Crabs the law of the internet, if a philosophy is even mildly dark, it is edgy and dumb

Nope. Wrong.

Everything we believe we see in the world is a reflection of ourselves. If we see hatred, anger, fear and suffering, it’s only because we have projected our own psyche outwards. If we are completely accepting of all thoughts and emotions we have inside us, we can do nothing but understand the world and beings that populate it. Hate, violence and suffering are then seen as they are, simply existing. The world and all beings, including ourselves, are seen for the truth - complete innocence - a child that believed whatever they were told, completely pure, completely blameless.

Incel

after this video, this phrase isnt that deep and its just like. K? Growing up is a thing? (not like it was any deep before, but u kno)

Ok....but when i was a kid i loved villains. didn't understand them but i liked them.😐

I mean even as a kid I still loved the villains cause I thought they were so cool and a part of me felt like I could relate to them.

Hello Among Suser

this

Hello Mr Assassin

Among suser

Imagine EmpLemon narrating your funeral and he has a downwards spiral half way through and just starts screaming about Twitter, demonetization and whatever the fuck Simian Jimmy is doing

finally someone said it

Rainer mit AI ganz wichtig

Ah yes

@@slyfox466 Haider etzala überall am Start?!?

@@slyfox466 ​Etzala rügg mal n stügg! Guter Geschmack, 10/10 Ofnekäse. Dadsächlich sogar

I was scrolling through trying to find someone else that saw it XD

Based

22:49 lol

I caught that too and almost fell out of my chair

rip the leaf

i dont understand what figuratively means in this context

Seeing Dr. Bright comes from an organization that exposes itself to horrible and wonderful things we as humanity could get used to, but by purpose is kept hidden from the world, being the bad guy is easy to assume or throw away in that position.

Syv is right, it's already literal.

Bless Your Soul

topkek :3

Truth. I've seen people cancelling fictional villains LOL.

@@ladyvader2648 NO please😂

@Super Crackers apology video

@Super Crackers Well, Mongols are the exception; maybe he'll dig himself out of his own grave and start T-posing in front of Twitter HQ.

No esperaba verte aca Hyurno

still can't believe dc ripped off the origin story of red hood from barnacle man

9

Straight facts.

Wait a minute...

Hol up

Just a hol up!

LoL

But was he tho?

Eh one of the many misunderstandings of Greek mythology in popular media, because he seems evil he must be evil. Kind of ironic given the last part of this video.

Hades is portrayed as the villain in Disney's Hercules, though, so I'm pretty sure that's the iteration of Hades he was non-verbally referencing in this clip.

yeah I hope that there'll be a movie/show where Hades isn't played off as a villain. Zeus should be the real villain tho lol.

@@legendaryhero6695 I think I would love a Heist Movie with Hermes. He is the God of the Thieves after all.

@@jackwriter1908 i imagine that as ryan reynolds running from a long-beraded alan rickman with a trident in his hand

This make anime villian in both akamegakill and MHA

If you like villains because of that, you should look about Megatron or some of the Decepticons in the IDW Transformers comics

@@kingawesome5219 Not just them! Magneto, Dr. Doom, and Mr. Freeze are just a few villains that I can think of right now! This may be why I always considered whenever they said "YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT ME!"

@@UkieKooki What was Dr Doom about?

@@kingawesome5219 There's this comic about Doom's tragic history because his mother is a witch and she sold her soul to Mephisto, the literal devil in Marvel, so he learns both science and magic during his adult years. After obtaining the suit of armor, he returned to Latveria, his home country, and created a resistance because the ruler of the country is making everyone poor while he becomes richer from their expense. After overthrowing the ruler, Doom became Latveria's new ruler and made the country into a paradise of prosperity, freedom, and security. But Doom still remembers his mother and so he went on a mission to try and save his mother so he tries to create portals in order to go to Mephisto's realm and save his mother. Doom challenges Mephisto and he accepts but it came with a price. Whenever Mephisto defeats Doom, his people will slowly hate him and fear him. So stubborn as Doom is, he gets defeated by Mephisto over and over. Keep in mind that Mephisto is in his strongest when he's in his realm. So Doom enlisted the help of Dr. Strange to save his mother. Doom and Strange succeeded but when Doom's mother entered the mortal realm, she became very evil. With Doom's multiple defeat from Mephisto, Latveria grew to hate him and that's how Doom became an authoritarian dictator in the eyes of his people. I don't want to spoil the whole ending but I really do recommend reading it yourself or watch a youtube video about the comic because it is really good and really sad on Doom's part.

She believed in her father's path. She controlled people around her with Horror. She would either be the Power Maniac or Lunatic. And we all se she turned out to be a lunatic. Azula is one of the pure evils in the ATLA with his father Ozai. It's no surprise we see her mental breaks down since she didn't have a strong will and mind like her father. Sozin was Chad. He faced against Avatar Roku for his ideals. Azula never had to make such a choice to make her strong. So she become a "Virgin". But Zuko, he always made choices that have harsh consequences which made him a Chad.

Azula is the little girl the one who you want to teach a lesson. Because you want her to reach a right path.

Let's not forget that Azula is also a victim of Ozai and like Zuko at the start of atla, only wanted approval from the person they "looked up to". Maybe if Azula had her own Uncle Iroh she would've gone on the right path.

Watch The Phycology of Azula on RU-vid bruh it literally explains things so well to me

Lmao wtf? All she wanted was to be loved? Absolutely fucking not. She wanted to rule and dominate. She wanted to be feared. Fuck outta here with that "oh she's just misunderstood" bullshit. Zuko was the misunderstood villain who had a redemption. Azula is, has always been, and always will be a consummate power-hungry villain

as kids we idolize perry as adults we understand doofenshmirtz

Funny thing is I'm a kid and I understand villains more than my parents. Or maybe I'm just symphizising with them too much...

I’ve actually always loved the villains better. They’re just so interesting

@@legoreddead the best characters in bad kids movies are always the villains. i.e. gargamel in smurfs

@@thebelen2359 i think its more of the parents not wanting you to think their good so they try to set that example

Tell that to David in The Last of Us

idubbbz and ethan probably woudn't be the same if he hadn't existed, also keem

@Mercury okay buddy

Yes that sure did happen in the video.

@@chrisye1733 But it was entertaining as hell with actual drama not just RU-vidrs being revealed to be pedophiles and fake conflicts or breakups that no one gives a shit about

Batman would have to beat up innocent bystanders or something. Wouldn't be a demand for a super anything lol, and thus people would take advantage of that (thus the cycle is constantly fluctuating, happens all the time in predator and prey species, happened a bunch with numbers of pirates and merchant ships, and must be similar phenomena/ cycles in business world)

Villains are only necessary because there are other villains

@@Dman9fp Oldschool batman directly killed the really bad guys, he didn't deliver them to the police, and there's also this guy, don't remember what he did or what he's called, but he's got him locked up for life, in a dark cell in a sewer somewhere batman isn't (wasn't?) always purely good, the end used to justify the means

Couldn't agree with you more.

Lol yeah, caught me of-guard

I can remember where this came from but we are all side characters in someone else's story

Idk I don’t think the guy who wants to burn down my house is me in this case

@@phoenixrq9139 that's a really close minded statement lol

I'm my own side charachter that is absolute garbage but still a fan favourite for some reason

I'm actually just the villan.