SYNDROME THEORY #1: His Parents Were Superheroes! (The Incredibles) 

I never comment on YT videos, but I just have to throw this out there--the password to Syndrome's computer is "Kronos." That's an allusion to Greek mythology; Kronos was usurped by his son, Zeus, along with the other Titans. If Buddy's backstory involves killing his parents and their peers, perhaps he sees himself as Zeus in this scenario, and his parents as the big bad Titans.

WHERE IS MY SUPERSUIT

Mr. Incredible's first super suit was blue. Elastic Girls first super suit was red. Red and blue make purple. Purple is also violet.

From the same deleted scene we get the fact that Syndrome knows about super breeding, we also see Violet is the Parr's biological daughter. She gets her abilities from her father's invulnerability and her mother's flexibility. Her force fields are indestructible as long as she has enough power to keep them up and she bends light around herself to turn invisible. As for Jack Jack having all those various powers, look no further than the eliminated heroes. All that power had to go some where and he was the only super born around the right time to absorb all those mantles.

On Violet: Her forcefields can totally be related to her parent. I mean look at how invulnerable Bob is. You can't say a shield isn't related to that. She also has her mother's physical weakness as well (when in relation to Bob). The invisibility could just be a mutation that went with her other power as an added form of protection with such a fragile body.

Well, you blew my mind...

If Violet dyed her hair black would the hair dye turn invisible like her or would it be visible still, like her clothes?

10:46-10:59 The best character roast I've ever seen.

I think this is great!

Maybe you should do a collab with the Super Carlin Brothers.

The truth is Mrs. Incredible is super thick.

I think he was pissed that he didn't have powers (powers skipped a generation) so he killed his parents in shame and became super smart because that is a reality he has control of, and the rest links up.

I need a new brain after watching this.

This explains why Gazerbeam knew the password to the computer because he was part of the group who owned the island. But I have a question why did he write the password on the cave wall as if he knew that someone would find them. I will tell you because he saw syndrome's plan for other supers, and not wanting other supers to be destroyed like him and his teammates. The reason why I am saying all this is because the password is what leads Mr.Incredible back to the facility which would lead to his capture. Well you remember how after he is in captivity Syndrome said that he hid behind the body of a dead super. How would he know this could it be that the drone that was sent to find Mr.Icredbile did see him which lets syndrome know that Mr.Icredbile will see the password and like I said would have him captured. Why do I bring this up this is proof that syndrome is serious intelligent and a master planner/puppet master.

I think Buddy is just like Iron Man...he doesn't have any super powers but he's so smart that he can create technology to match those powers.

While I like the theory, there is one thing that really bothers me. You're assuming that super children have half the attributes of both parents and then those two halves are added together, but that doesn't really make sense. For that to work, Mr. Incredible's parents had to be both maxed out in strength, or one is double the strength of the scale. It would be the same with Elastigirl, or any other super with a maxed out stat. With that logic, then the power of most supers is going to be halved and more greatly varied each generation. After a few generations, all but the most strategically bred heroes are going to have almost the same exact stats, all of which will be very low, to the point that they might as well be regular humans. This kind of genealogy really only works if heroes are very recent, with 2-3 generations at the most, with the acceptance that supers are going to become irrelevant fast.

you could also explain voilet by simple recessive genetics. each of dash's, violet's and jackjack's powers (especially violet) could have been a recessive gene that was in both elastagirl and mr incredible seeing as super powers are clearly genetic. two recessive genes has a 25% chance of being in their children... violet got that 25%. it could make sense that way it also makes more sense then the spectulation of violet being adopted...

Am I the only one who just likes hearing Theorizer talk and sound smart, without actually fully comprehending what he's saying?

This would also explain why the first super Syndrome `TERMINATED´ was one whose stats had indestructibility maxed out.

For anyone wondering about Violet's strange powers and rather out-of-place appearance that have seemingly no correllation to her parents, the answer may be found in the original plot concept and, more importantly, *The cut villain, Xerek.* Xerek is stated to have once been in a relationship with Helen until she fled from him when he evinced a violent and abusive streak to him, where she would later meet Bob. Xerek was "beyond a genius" and was originally going to be a manipulative mastermind sort of villain archetype until he was replaced with Syndrome in development. If you look at the concept art for Xerek and then compare him to Violet, you will know *exactly* what I am implying may have been the case.

WAIT! If the incredibles takes place in the early 60s, this would only confirm Buddy's super intelligence! Considering how efficient his technology was compared to the rest of the world!

Wow this theory was pretty.......incredible

Very late to the party, but amazing theory. I actually had one theory of mind regarding his parents. At first, I didn't believe Universal Man to be at all his father, because his interview in the NSA files consists solely of him ranting about his lack of a secret civilian identity causing him to have trouble with women, because they want to see him without the mask. The way he words it all makes it seem like he has not just one past wife, but potentially multiple, all ending in divorce because of this issue... HOWEVER... something I've noticed in Psycwave's file... is that one of her powers is to essentially "hijack" minds and mentally possess people. According to her own interview, when her powers first developed in high school, she used them to make her crush, her school's star quarterback, break up with his girlfriend to ask her out to homecoming instead. While the amount of time she can "hijack" is limited, it appears whatever she does to someone sticks afterwards, almost like she permanently brainwashes them. If it didn't, her crush wouldn't have gone out with her, and since she never clarifies this happening, they HAVE to stick. My idea is that Psycwave fell in love with Universal Man, but when the issue that ended his past relationships arose, she instead used her powers to change his mind, thus allowing him to finally adopt a secret identity, get married, and have Buddy as their child, although Buddy's daddy issues, both parents being amongst the earliest Omnidroids' first victims, and the Greek symbolization of Kronos proves that it didn't exactly end well.

“You condescendingly sarcastic little brat.” Gonna use this at some point. Thanks.

But couldn't have Violet inherited her looks and powers from her Grandparents as that can actually happen anyway?

I thought that the super children got their powers based of their personalities. It makes a lot of sense when you look at it

I wonder if dash will continue to get stronger, since he is as fast as he is as a kid, just imagine how fast he could be at his prime. Or since his powers involve a ton of strength in his legs, if he could develop super strength in other parts of his body like his arms

"We have to figure out how supers reproduce" OH HELL NAW

The orchestrated music used in this video works extremely well.

WHO IS THE KOOL AID MAN? That's the theory I want.

About the superpowers, i think they actually relate to the super's personality. Take Helen, she is flexible and can easily use objects around her to her advantage and can easily adapt to changes in the situation, shown by how she uses the sewer cover to slingshot the gun from the giant robot at the end of the first film. She used it immediately, almost as if it was instinct, which corresponds with her power of flexibility. Mr Incredible is very stubborn and hard-set, thus giving him super strength, shown by the beginning of the second movie when he goes to the meeting and says "heavyweight problems require heavyweight solutions", which explains why he has super strength since it corresponds with his personality and his way of resolving problems. Dash has an extreme amount of energy and is very elevated in his emotions, giving him super speed. This is shown by the end of the first movie after they defeat the robot and he is very excited and proud of what they have done, and it's clear he has a bundle of energy inside him all the time. As with Violet, she is very shy and introverted, which is why she has invisibility, and she wants to shield herself from the outside world, hence her forcefields. We can easily dismiss Jack-Jack as he is a baby, which explains his multiple powers since his personality is still developing. And about Violet's hair, we know that it's her natural hair since if she dyed it her hair would still be visible since the dye would not be connected to her body, so people would still see the dye even if she turned invisible. I think this also correlates with her personality since black is a dark colour, and it could also relate with her shyness since you can't see anything in the dark, so her hair reflects the desire to be hidden. This is also shown by the end of the movie after all she has gone through she has a lot more confidence, and she pins her hair back with a hairband. Her hair is still black because she is still shy as a personality, but has a lot more self-confidence and is comfortable with herself without leaving her shyness behind. We could also say that maybe her powers make her hair black as a means to allow it to become invisible, perhaps other colours do not work because they are too bright. We even have the science to confirm it. Science has proven that white reflects light and heat, whereas black absorbs it. Perhaps her hair is black so that when she turns invisible her hair will not reflect light and make herself more visible, so maybe she has black hair so when she turns invisible light will not reflect and give away her position.

I personally believe Phylange or Universal Man is Syndromes dad while I deeply believe Psycwave is Syndromes mom. I think it could be Universal Man because of the zero-point energy or Phylange because of the resemblance that I see between Phylange and Syndrome, and Psycwave has gotta be his mom because of their intellectual levels

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Violet did inherit her parents powers because the way to get a force Field is invulnerable ability and strength and for her invisibility powers are for stealth like how her mother uses her elasticity in the movie

Thought you were leading towards mr incredible being the father. He knew the mom, but maybe it was on a more personal level than that... Elastagirl was worried about incredibles new job- thinkin he was cheating (possibly, again?) true, violet looks different (maybe gran parents or like you said a rescue child... ) but lookin at buddy, dash, and jack jack they almost look similar. Plus, syndrome attempting to kidnap dash at the end. I’m hooked on your channel. Now ya got me thinkin haha.

6:41 "Weakness: Teenager" LMAO

Here's a notion....what if Syndrome is the son of Mr. Incredible and PsychWave? I say this for three reasons....A) Because in the beginning he looks A LOT like Mr. Incredible with his blue eyes and blonde hair. B) Because in the beginning of the film, Buddy makes it a point to say he doesn't need special powers to be a superhero, and later in the film, we hear Helen tell Edna Mode that their youngest son, Jack Jack, also has no manifested powers (even though he eventually gets them). C) What if Mr. Incredible and PsychWave had a relationship that spawned a child...Buddy....and Buddy's power's took awhile to manifest? What if he DOES have superior intelligence etc and Mr. Incredible simply was not aware of it and left the boy and his mother because he was so busy living his life as a Super? This could explain why Bob is the focus of all of Buddy's resentment and "daddy issues" and why he uses Bob in particular to defeat his robot. Buddy does say that he is Mr. Incredible's BIGGEST fan....what If Bob's rejection of his son hurt Buddy so much, he used this as a reason to get revenge on him....because now years later Buddy see him reincarnated as Mr. Incredible with a beautiful wife and family of his own, living life as a Super and he has been rejected by his father as worthless for not having powers.

Proof Violet is NOT adopted: I think violet dyed her hair. If you closely it is a purplish-black and she is a sort of shy emo child. Her family has red and blonde hair which she may have thought made her seem preppy and didn't match her personality. Her parents believe in allowing people to express themselves and would have allowed her to dye her hair of that is what she wanted to do. If you look at the framed photos in the house all hair is light, a red or black meaning Violet would have had light hair. I believe with the move and them changing lifestyle she may have changed her hair colour as a sort of change she thought was needed for a fresh new start.

Another thing to consider if this theory is true. Since Bob obviously knows Buddy's mom, and Buddy ostensibly knows this, then maybe part of Buddy's rage towards Mr. Incredible is because he failed to intervene in Buddy's home life despite knowing both of his parents. Think of it: the man your worship as your hero not just rejecting you as his sidekick, but refusing to be a superhero for YOU to help you relieve your feelings of isolation and "parentlessness" after you've shown your dedication. This to me seems more believable as a motivation for the line "You can't count on anyone... especially your heroes."

Ok so, genetics. One of violets parents (Hellen and Bob), then could have the genetics for black hair but when they had violet, she got that genetic and not the other one (being blond or brown). I learned about this stuff in science class.

Plot twist Syndrome and Violet are actually brother and sister

The Theorizer is a boss

4:03 ummm... she could easily have gotten her hair color from her grandparents or higher up in her ancestry. Duh

I agree with the theory that psycwave could be his mom, since they're both highly intelligent. It would also make sense because psycwave has been confirmed to have red hair like Buddy. However, I'm not sure I agree with universal man being his dad. I think his zero point energy isn't his own physical power and just comes from another source and is just channeled through his gauntlets and the containment unit he keeps Mr incredible in. His dad could pretty much be anyone, and may not even be a super at all. I think he's just half a super and has only minor psychic powers because only one of his parents is a super. This would also make since why he's so good at hiding this ability to avoid looking hypocritical because he could never use it to the extent his mom could, as it probably would have been very useful against the Parrs. Maybe the only one he could ever fully hypnotize was Mirage, or maybe he just chipped her with some kind of device to keep her from ratting him out to the govt as that was probably her original intention as a possible govt spy. I'm pretty sure universal man was the first killed solely because he was the most heavily dissatisfied with normal life. And maybe after buddy easily took him down, his mom later went looking for him on the island, found out what he did, and thus fell into his hands as his second victim.

maybe buddy is Mr incredibles, bastard son!

WHAT IF BUDDY IS MR.INCREDIBLE'S LOVECHILD WHO HE LEFT FATHERLESS? MIND BLOWN Amazing theory btw! :)

Mr. Incredible: What's your super power again? Syndrome: I'm rich Justice League reference for those who didn't get it

Wait... I'm never early...

Boy oh boy, 50 seconds ago. Gotta love that random logging onto RU-vid and seeing a new video that was uploaded 50 seconds ago

6:56 Downburst is now the best Incredibles Character for me.

If you look close buddy's parents threat levels are lower than the other , proving this theory , that he probably catched them off guard, or bec his parent found out he was behind this and used the least amount of power they could

What if the young buddy was born without powers and was a disappoint to his superpower parents so he makes the rocket boots to try and become a hero but fails because of mr incredible so he snaps and takes over the HQ and builds the weapons and machines for another attempt to make his parents proud but they think he becomes a monster so he kills them and also wants revenge on all the superheroes including mr incredible for being better then him. Just and idea. Some it doesn't make sense but you probably understand what I mean

buddy and invisible girl could be related because both have mind based powers.

i also had a theory which isn't very good but i will share it anyway, maybe the reason Syndromes guards wear a visor, is because they want to pay tribute to Gazer Beam who was the only super to leave that group that Syndromes parents were in

3:00 Says they are going to call syndrome buddy* 3:07 Less then 10 seconds later calls him syndrome*

you make me laugh a little bit out of my nose. Thank you for the nose laughs.

Children don't necessarily have to look like/like a mix of their parents. Keep that in mind! Genes can skip generations. Children can still have special characteristics from their parents that aren't as obvious as hair- or eyecolour,... .E.g. hair structure, genrerall size, skin coulour and many more.

That makes perfect sense. I'd like to know more about Violet's backstory and who her parents are as well.

SHAVING VIOLET WITH OCCAM'S RAZOR: Violet being adopted is a perfectly acceptable theory. There is a certain amount of precedence in the genre. HOWEVER, I have a theory that reduces the requirement for spare parents by 50%: Bob married Helen knowing she was pregnant by another guy who had black hair. It ties in with why they decided to get married when they did. It provides yet another excuse to turn Violet's life upside down (never can have too many of those!). It's something that actually happens in the real world, and it's something that implies more courage and self-sacrifice than defeating the villain-of-the-episode--sounds more heroic, doesn't it? I also might have written a fanfiction about an entirely different series with a suspiciously similar jack-in-the-box explaining an oldest daughter who doesn't look anything like her supposed father.

What do you call it when Syndrome falls over? Down Syndrome Edit: The joke is supposed to be fucked up guys, calm down

Every time I watch the bonus disc of the Incredibles I almost pee myself with laughter when I listen to the clip of spoon dude

Here’s something to think about..why does Dash look so much like Syndrome? Could it be possible that Syndrome is Dash’s father, and Helen acted like Dash was Bob’s son? There is a huge resemblance between Dash and Syndrome. Although Dash looks a lot like Bob, he looks even more like Buddy. There’s my theory.

"Fanboy from hell" Woah this guy knows what I think Buddy is.

I agree with your theory on Syndrome having superparents but i still agree on the theory Seamus Gorman made on Superchildren. It says that the power that their powers reflect their personalities and it hasn't stayed the same for violet because now that she's a teenager her personality is changing 🤔

Updated 2023 Another Note: If y’all pay attention to detail the Mother (Psycwave)was stated as eliminated, but also states that the body was never found. Also concluding that she got away or he let her get away. Due to the fact that it was his mother. On the other hand, the dad (Universal Man)He was the first to be killed obviously because of the dad issues. I think this theory is valid…

I had a theory on how their powers work, that every super has the potential of having any power but as they grow their body adapts to the power that best suits their personality, it's a bit less clear for the adults but for the 3 kids it works perfectly, dash is impulsive and hyperactive, thus he has super speed, violet is shy so she has invisibility, and jack-jack is just a baby, he doesn't have a personality yet, thus he has all the powers...

I'd just like to ask how you can say Violet's genetics are impossible, you don't only receive traits from your parents that they themselves have. You can also receive recessive genes that don't show up in either parent.

the incredible powers come from their personalities, bob is a strong willed person who wants to help people, dash is out going and sporty, violet is quiet and thoughtful, and the mom (just forgot her name lol) is very well rounded, and can bend to different situations. Jack jack is developing because a baby doesn't have a personality until they are exposed to the world for at least 3 years. like how kids learn to talk. also syndrome is a master mind and smart allic kid. thus, smarts

Who else thought that Syndrome had Down Syndrome? But of course, with a reversed effect on his intellect.

Woah this theory was crazy good. You included tons of REAL evidence which seamlessly supported your claims. You really outdid yourself on this one. But. That raises the question. If the evidence that Buddy overtook the Phastasmic’s secret base and Psycwave being his mom was all included in the movie and bonus features... did the producers plan this?? Did they want someone of your theorizing capability to uncover their hidden mind blowing message! So that we may one again awe at the amazing ness of the INCREDIBLES!

Honestly, I think it would work thematically if Bubby didnt inherit powers, making him always look up at heroes and to grow his own intellect by himself.

Is syndrome related to jimmy neutron

I love this theory! This is put together really well. I can tell that you put a lot of work into all these theories. Keep up the good work man!

If Mr. Incredible knows something about his parents then it should be easy to figure out: At the beginning of the movie Bob remembers that Buddy is from "that" fan club for Mr. Incredible. (Buddy is the president of the fan club.) So if that's true then Bob must have met his mother. And his mother might have known that her husband is also a super. Thus Mr. Incredible must know something.

Have you ever considered that their superpowers are interrelated with there personalities? Maybe the reason Violet is able to go invinsible and put up a shield is because she's introverted and doesn't want to be seen

An interesting theory, but there is something I would like to point out. Bob, Mr. Incredible, knew Buddy's name. So they did meet at some point. Most likely when he was with his mother, probably grocery shopping. This would explain why Mr. Incredible said that his mom should know what he's been up to. He's only seen the mother.

I can't wait to see Violet's video.

This theory makes so much sense! Also towards the end, the baby basicly kills him. It makes sense that he din't know he was going to do so because the mind of a child wonders a bit.

LOL, why is it that in super hero stories, the character with inhuman levels of high intellect are overlooked with those of visible powers? Hell, even in the movie skyhigh, the villain was going to high school during a time of which are powers were understood because of the limited technology so she was written up as an unuseful “sidekick“ power which turned her into a villain. And to be able to use her power correctly she had to be extremely intelligent.

7:37 I think you misinterpreted it, it doesn’t say he’s scared of women, this guy doesn’t like physical contact,imp-laying that this guy doesn’t like anyone regardless of gender touching him. I think that with saying his unmarried implant this guy is aroace.

I have a theory. What if. Tony Stark is Syndromes father. Look at the clues. Syndrome has an S for Syndrome. Stark starts with an S. Tony is smart and creates technology. Tony is a superhero. Stark is rich. So that's how Syndrome gets the money. HOLY LARD OF GAWD MY MIND HAS EXPLODED

Well Violet's make sense once you break them down... Invisibility: stretching so thin that you look like your surroundings. Forcefields: well forcefeilds are really hard to come down to how they relate, but I can't really explain it that well, but I'll try, so it's both strength and streaching. Strength because it takes alot of strength to keep one up. Streaching because you need to stretch it around say dash and violet. I mean that's a really bad explanation of how forcefields work with the same powers of her family but I tried my hardest.

Awesome theory! There actually was a subplot in the original script about how the government made it illegal for supers to procreate which may explain why the one scene where Syndrome makes reference to it was deleted.

Syndrome is possibly related to Prince Hans because they both are villians (obviously) and both want power and want to get rid of people with powers Like Mr. Incredible and Elsa and both start as nice people like Syndrome tries to be Mr. Incredible's Sidekick and Hans tries to be Prince or Next king in line of whatever the city was called in Frozen and fools the town thinking he's a good guy they also have same hair color and have Freckles

ANDYS DAD IS THE SYNDROME DAD CONFIRM ED

About the Zero Point Energy, it was actually implied that he created the gauntlets that produce the energy. Quoting him, "It's cool, huh? Zero Point Energy. Yeah, I saved the best inventions for myself." In other words, the energy comes from his gauntlets, not from himself.

This channel has sure come a long way...from robot voice to dramatic musical effect! ;-)

How long until you think MatPat steals this idea?

the supercarlinbros loves your taste :)

So we just gonna ignore "Won legendary eating contest with ThunderHead at NSA picnic. Eating 47 boysenberry pies, 8 banana creams, 3 apple crumbs and *a liter of mayonnaise* " 3:43

This is literally my favorite channel so far ever. Your sense of humor is nuanced, unique and hilarious.

10:05 Violet's real dad?

Hey it would be really cool if you did a theory on this one show it's an anime called princess tutu...I know it sounds super stupid but it's actually really twisted and strange and interesting I know your probably not going to do a video on something only one person suggested but maybe at least you could check it out,I think it would make a great theory video.i love your content and your strange humor, keep up the good work.

Greatest villain ever made. Even thought he had a weird aesthetic, he made up for it by just being a charismatic powerful genius.

really adds a new aspect to when he said "I save some of the best stuff for myself" when talking about zero point energy

The Theorizer is smarter than Albert Einstein, Stephen Hawking, and Isaac Newton *COMBINED*

Basically... Syndrome is like batman.. except syndrome starts from scratch. or maybe he's rich but different reason to be a superhero/ Antagonist. ahhh... i don't have the mind to theorize

When I watched the Incredibles, I always got the impression that Syndrome, being a scientific and technological genius, made the Zero-Point Energy using his tech< though I may be wrong.

I’m bingeing all your theories while I do some cleaning. I find your voice extra soothing 😂

I love your Pixar theories!