Synology NAS Upgrade Step-by-Step

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I upgraded my Synology NAS from the DS1520+ to the DS1821+ because I was running out of space. This was not a project I was looking forward to since the NAS is the core of my entire home lab. But - ultimately, I pulled the trigger on the migration and documented step-by-step what I learned throughout the process.
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CHAPTERS:
0:00 - Intro
1:55 - DS1821+ Overview and Initial Setup
5:00 - Migration Assistant
11:05 - Verify Backups
13:28 - Migrating Docker
14:39 - Migrating Virtual Machines
17:37 - Final Thoughts
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@LarsHHoog 26 дней назад

A caveat is that the Migration Assistant is not capable of migrating from e.g EXT4 to BTRFS

@AJ-fo8vtuhtde 26 дней назад

Thanks for the video. I used a different method when I upgraded my 415+ to the 923+: I just moved all drives to the new NAS. Next step was to change the drives one by one and restore the SHD. Main advantage was that my NAS was online the whole time (which is important as I’m using is for my surveillance cameras)

@stangtennis 25 дней назад

Would love a video on your Home Assistant setup on the NAS. I've always wanted to put my HA on my Synology, but am just to nervous about issues with the Zigbee dongle and IoT network isolation issues (with the NAS both needing to be on my isolated 'server'-network AND the IoT network. So a guide from you on that setup would be great! :)

@DBTechYT 26 дней назад

I've actually been thinking about mapping my folders for Documents and Downloads and all that to a NAS just to maintain consistency. Glad to know others have been successful with it!

@woodmanvictory 26 дней назад

I absolutely give Synology props with how user friendly and feature rich DSM is but dayum is the HW wildly expensive for the price.

@geraldh.8047 26 дней назад

The DS1821+ is such an amazing piece of hardware. A 4-core Zen1 CPU from 2017 along with massive 4GB of RAM and it even has Gigabit Ethernet, just like the Diskstation DS408 from 2008. It's amazing what you can get for >1000$ in 2024.

@woodmanvictory 26 дней назад

lol

@gdehoon3604 25 дней назад

It’s the software, stupid :-).

@Dextermorga 25 дней назад

🙄

@andyhey4576 25 дней назад

" massive 4GB of RAM" BUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA !!!!!

@DataHoarders 26 дней назад

wow, jsut wow. this video was really really good. keep up the good work!!

@johnreyna5080 23 дня назад

Good all disaster and recovery! Recovery of functionality is very important.

@axel.fyoutubeb 26 дней назад

Great video, thanks!

@techsurfer81 26 дней назад

Great video, just one tip: you cannot skip the "create a new volume" on the new nas as the nas needs a working volume to install apps from the package manager!

@alexmart2019 26 дней назад

Thank so much for the informative video Can you explain why did you consider upgrading instead of using an NAS expansion? Is it because ur original NAS has no expansion port ?

@mweed7535 18 дней назад

Just curious if you have ever looked at the Glacier Backup app for Synology for your cloud backup strategy? Thank you for all the great videos, love your channel.

@m.p.5821 26 дней назад

I would appreciate a video for the Backblaze setup on your Synology.

@turbo2ltr 26 дней назад

I love my DS1618, I did the same thing.. maxed out the ram, and put a PCI SFP+ adapter for 10Gbit.

@ayush8 23 дня назад

Nice overview! Could you also do a video on how you handle data security/encryption?

@vineetkhandpur3490 26 дней назад

use the 1520 as a Hyperbackup server? adds to your back up redundancy. do the first (primary) while on the same network, pay family members/friends to keep it their place (for power and internet), save your Backblaze costs

@Minionz 25 дней назад

I agree with this setup, other than the NVME caching. Lots of horror stories of people having issues in the long run with it. I'd probably use them as a storage pool if they are used for anything.

@PaulPetitt 16 дней назад

Did you consider adding one or two DX517 expansion units to your old NAS? You could have added 5 drives per unit and up to two units. Same units are compatible with your new NAS also.

@liutang 26 дней назад

Why not use your old NAS as local backup? I have 3 synologys, 2 local and one remote. I use snapshot replication between the two local synologys. Then hyper backup to the remote.

@andrewenglish3810 25 дней назад

@CrosstalkSolutions if your old Synology volume was setup with SHR all you really had to do was remove your old drives and put them in the new Synology which it would detect your old drive setup and migrate it into the new Synology. To upgrade the drives if you were using SHR on the old NAS you can switch out the old drives 1 or 2 at time depending on your SHR level until you have all 12TB installed.

@conrat2000 26 дней назад

Great video. I do miss the old theme music. But great video nonetheless.

@djheckler92 26 дней назад

I use the same RAM in my 1821+. The only problem is if you ever need help from Synology support they will blame whatever issue you're having on the unsupported RAM, so have to remove it first and re-install stick that came with it.

@gdehoon3604 25 дней назад

So you’re running low on storage…. And instead of just replacing some drives, there was the opportunity to do some Synology marketing :-(.

@matejkotnik9675 26 дней назад

Isn't easyer to stuff data to Synology from PC and than HB to external drive and remote NAS with versioning? You may later reuse old nas for remote backup, just replace few drives with bigger, right?😊

@byrd203 24 дня назад

You do not need a second cable to put VM's on a vlan network you could do vlanlan tagging I have done this all you need to do is go to the virtual machine manger and click add and assign the VLAN tag then assign that VM to that network then it is on the other network without a second cable plus you want to disable all management interfaces off the second nic so the system does not get confused only do this if you have nic bonding setup

@debugin1227 24 дня назад

30 tb these days is like my 180 k floppy from the 80's just go bigger

@gavin1215 26 дней назад

I’m using the same unit and my homeassistant keeps dropping network connection. Can you do a video on how you set yours up from the start?

@fabianurner7533 26 дней назад

Can you say something about the power consumption in idle?

@dubas1974 26 дней назад

it's much easier to move the drives wholesale from old nas to new nas, then slowly replace the drives.

@michaelafcadio 25 дней назад

Regarding the meaning of "3-2-1 backups",.does that mean 3 COPIES of the data or 3 BACKUPS (i.e. 4 total copies)? You say you're not meeting 3-2-1 for all your important data, but that's only if you interpret it as 3 total backups, with 2 backups on two different media, and one off site. Which to me as actually more like 4-3-1 instead of 3-2-1.

@twistedmister1 25 дней назад

You don’t want to sync to Backblaze, you want to use Hyperbackup. Sync does not protect from ransomware or disk corruption as encrypted/corrupt files will replicate that way.

@brunosalezze 24 дня назад

These are VERY expensive 800 GB NVME drives and 10G nics. For business, is the usual, but for home use?

@adpena1379 26 дней назад

Hi, I have issue with the adding of storage.

@The_Dude_1 26 дней назад

Out of curiosity, why did you go to an entirely new NAS instead of just adding the expansion unit?? A 1520 allows a total of 15 drives, it has an eSATA port on the back to connect the expansion unit.

@CrosstalkSolutions 26 дней назад

DS1520+ doesn't support 10Gbps.

@BoraHorzaGobuchul 26 дней назад

The expansion unit is ridiculously expensive, almost as much as a nas. Best to buy a more capable (for values of capable, but it's Synology, so expectations are not set high) nas, and use the old one for backup

@The_Dude_1 26 дней назад

@@CrosstalkSolutions ahhh, ok fair enough.

@JasperWaale 26 дней назад

Why 12GB and not 20GB? The RAM issues indicate a deviation from your own advice. The primary NAS configuration concerns revolve around disk and RAM, followed by CPU and network considerations. Do any of the Unify devices support 10G, or is that a future consideration since there was no additional cost? I've also accounted for that. How do you effectively work from home if your folders are mapped to a local NAS? It doesn't seem very flexible, and granting remote access poses security risks. Implementing weekly backups or background backups to a folder using Windows Backup, or even leveraging Xcopy, which is often undervalued as a mirroring tool, could mitigate these concerns effectively. When used with the /mir switch, Xcopy will copy all files from the source to the destination and delete any files in the destination that do not exist in the source

@sashagelert9320 26 дней назад

a nas is a nas is a nas, lots of ways to accomplish the same thing. Today's video like is purely for that dark mode t-shirt 🙂

@scottyoung3354 25 дней назад

Does it complain at all about the Crucial RAM? Heard folk saying when not using the official Synology RAM they get alarms etc from the DS all the time.

@CrosstalkSolutions 20 дней назад

Worked fine.

@richardellishk 24 дня назад

why not just use the DX517 to extend your storage?

@BeatsByBillawala 26 дней назад

Hey, would you happen to be selling the 1520+? It’s the last generation with intel quick sync and I’ve been looking to upgrade but quick sync is something i need.

@BoraHorzaGobuchul 26 дней назад

A half decent mini PC will be a better transcoding-capable media server than a Synology, so I wouldn't lose any sleep over it

@BeatsByBillawala 26 дней назад

True, but i treat the synology as infrastructure, so I’m not often messing with it directly and just like to have it chugging along in the background. Adding another machine to the mix is… not something i really wanna do tbh.

@mrxmry3264 26 дней назад

so if all drives are the same size, does SHR provide any advantage?

@belrpr 26 дней назад

Yes but only when you expand later. If all drive slots are full you can replace a disk with a higher capacity (You will need to replace all tolerance + 1 disk to get more space)

@SteveBerube 23 дня назад

suggesting unraid...not locked in with any hardware - easy to upgrade and again with docker and virtual machines

@vuanhson 26 дней назад

Backup is never enough =)) we just trying to lower the chance of dataloss

@erichubbard7754 26 дней назад

Did you use BTRFS or EXT4?

@dwazeke 26 дней назад

Virtual machine manager won't work of you use ext4, so brfrs is the way to go

@erichubbard7754 26 дней назад

@@dwazeke That's good to know, any real downsides to btrfs?

@BoraHorzaGobuchul 26 дней назад

@@erichubbard7754on Synology - not really

@svenmichelsde 26 дней назад

I strongly disagree to attaching the USB disk to the NAS to cover the two different "media" part of the 3-2-1 strategy. Here is why: with attachting the disk to the synology, you basically make them "one". If a power surge happens, it most likely will toast all of it. If some "bad" stuff happens, like malware encrypting the synology, the disk will be affected as well. If some "kernel" bug happens around the filesystem for example, it will also destroy both copies most likely. I would recommend to either put the external disk on a separate system, maybe just a raspi or so, receiving data every now and then, or stick to the "plug me in directly" external harddrive.

@johnknauerify 25 дней назад

Would a UPS on the NAS solve the surge concern?

@svenmichelsde 25 дней назад

@@johnknauerify not for me, as for example the UPS itself could cause it. For me it's more or less like a raid - just another disk in the same box. It's not a bad thing, just doesn't fulfill the requirements. But again, purely my opinion.

@GotWire 25 дней назад

why don't you build a Nas?

@BryceCampbell 26 дней назад

OK, fine, I'll stop putting off my Synology upgrade.

@richardturkson5916 26 дней назад

Pihole vs Piehole.

@LubomirGeorgiev 26 дней назад

Wait. How is Windows PC not 3-2-1?

@BoraHorzaGobuchul 26 дней назад

Yeah, it's 3 copies of data, not 3 backups :)

@LubomirGeorgiev 26 дней назад

@@BoraHorzaGobuchul my understanding has always been that 1 of the copies IS the original/live data. Per Veeam guide: Maintain three copies of your data: This includes the original data and at least two copies. By that logic only his user profile redirection does not obide by the 3-2-1 rule.

@ovarb12 13 дней назад

Synology is 2-3 the price it should be. Just maybe get some larger drives. Hey they make 16tb hd now. Huge waste of money. Asustor has great nas only they are half the cost and x4 the amount of ram, but they use a more modern cpu. Very bad!

@NetITGeeks 23 дня назад

I don't like Synology because they are trying too hard to lock you into their own products. For warranty claims, you must have Synology hard drives, Synology memory modules, Synology network card, etc. I don't like QNAP because of the hacking issues. This is sad for al consumers because both Synology and QNAP are companies that make reliable products. They are just trying too hard to be like Apple Inc.

@chrispeden979 22 дня назад

This is not necessary. Just move the drives and you’ll save yourself days. This appears to be just a video to advertise for synology. #ad

@tubeDude48 26 дней назад

Still on windoz?...that's sad!

@patricklyons7683 26 дней назад

Gibberish comment about scam fiscal shite on a video about nas stuff.

@FougaFrancois 26 дней назад

The Problem is the following, those are NAS, and you can expect them to last decades, but synology recently has stopped supporting some of their NAS, only 15 years old ... defeating the purpose of a NAS... I have given up on them because of this, Cloud is actually a better deal because of their decisions.

@FougaFrancois 26 дней назад

And let's be clear, it would be a little cost for Synology to recompile DMS for those early products they released. Ignoring their 5 disks Raid (high end back then) is a brand killer. The lack of DMS recompile for some of Synology NAS makes it a long-term hazardous solution.

@BoraHorzaGobuchul 26 дней назад

I don't see myself using the same NAS hardware in 15 years, so not an issue for me - I'll have upgraded by that time. Cloud cannot be a better deal because for large amount of data, it's way more expensive, and it's not local, and it's not under your control. If you don't like S's approach, you can always build your own NAS, then you can be sure of it's longevity