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Synology Photos VS Photo Station And Moments - SHOULD YOU UPGRADE? 

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@DaleMeredith
@DaleMeredith 3 года назад
Would love to see a video phone setting up the sharing photo features...so my phone and my wife's dump to our NAS and all photos are accessible to both via moments
@JacanaProductions
@JacanaProductions 3 года назад
One great feature of photo station is the automatic uploading of your iOS photos from multiple phone users to one place, that seems to work well and the big reason why I use photo station. Apples photo app is not multiuser, I don’t wanna use Google photos I don’t want to store them all in the cloud, I’m not putting them on some hard drive hanging off a computer as how then can the other family members upload the photos,so something has to run on my NAS ! Synology is a massive almost monopoly now you think they could do better when it comes to photos!
@JacanaProductions
@JacanaProductions 3 года назад
Do you know if they finally support the Apple / iOS raw format that is used on the high-end iPhones. Blows my mind that this has not been supported as the phone has been out for almost a year now! Also I’m an able to play some videos in the photo station, is this fixed and 7.
@vanderneut
@vanderneut 2 года назад
I would really like to know this as well. This would be a deal breaker.
@TWARDOWSKY.
@TWARDOWSKY. 3 года назад
Are Synology plan to implement MapView in Synology Photos?
@MrIkaika1978
@MrIkaika1978 2 года назад
Could you give an Update now one year later? Any improvements?
@RobertBronswinkel
@RobertBronswinkel Год назад
At this moment all of my photos are placed in the Photo share, and i'm talking about tons of photo's. All these photo's are placed in a catalog in Adobe Lightroom. In DSM7 the photo's are placed in the Home share, so if I want to use the new Synology Photo I must move all of my photo's to the Home share which means that my catalog wil become useless in Lightroom. Is the a workaround for my problem or am I missing something?
@allanmarsh1
@allanmarsh1 3 года назад
One other thing to add to the "not working" list: I have some family videos in HEVC format. They play fine in Photo Station (DSM 6) and when upgraded to DSM 7, they also play in Synology Photos. However, if I add these same videos directly into Synology Photos in DSM 7, they won't play and generate a message of "Synology Photos does not support the playback of videos in HEVC format". What?? You just played them over in that other folder... Logging a ticket with Synology gives the same response - not supported. But isn't that exactly what the Advanced Media Extensions package is supposed to provide - support for HEVC files?
@petermoeller5901
@petermoeller5901 2 года назад
Not sure what you expect, HEVC is a video format, not a photo format.
@MWDAdventures
@MWDAdventures 2 года назад
My question is I am setting up my nas for the first time and have two many photos on my Mac in iPhoto. I mend to off load photos as my internal hard on my computer is almost full. So do I move them from iPhoto to synology photos or just build file folders and store them there?
@running4fun74
@running4fun74 3 года назад
Soooo let me see if I got this right. Synology Photos does not yet have all the features of Moments and Photostation but if I get a new NAS with DSM 7 only Photos will be available?
@vladlesin4889
@vladlesin4889 3 года назад
Right, moreover you will not be able to downgrade it to 6.2.
@Capricorn_IV
@Capricorn_IV Месяц назад
I know its a old video but has Synology photos received most of the features of photo station + moments & what is the current impression of Synology photos at the moment? I am a home user wanting to back all our photos & videos up and be able to share & view them with my family. Looking at buying the cheapest 2 bay Synology
@MichelBoire
@MichelBoire 3 года назад
Unlike DSM 6.2 where there was a DS Photo app available for Android TV, this new Synology photo on DSM 7 does not provide any Photo app for Android TV.
@jimblue5008
@jimblue5008 3 года назад
Dude you are such a nerd ... And I absolutely love it!! Thanks for sharing your knowledge
@simonejanetti
@simonejanetti 6 месяцев назад
A question from a newby in the NAS world. I actually have all my photos backuped up into Moments. If I choose to move into Photos, will the app duplicate all my photos?
@jmalmsten
@jmalmsten 3 года назад
The biggest thing for me and my planned workflow for a big archiving project is... comments... They are nowhere to be seen. My whole plan is to put the archived images in something like Synology Photos and let users comment. After some jiggling about I have been able to get the test-folder to a shared space and let people manage that... which is great for tagging and such by my end users... but that means they can delete photos... I simply do not want that... Is there any way to let them tag and edit... but not remove and move around photos? I want this to be as end-user proof as possible.
@vanderneut
@vanderneut 2 года назад
Excellent question!
@mariusm2402
@mariusm2402 3 года назад
Thanks a lot for the comparison. I'm still hesitating to migrate as I'm loving especially the map module in Synology Photo station. Will likely wait for this feature to come to DSM7 as well before migrating. May I ask you were your dialect is from? (no complaining - for me as non native English speaker from Germany it's really just a question for curiosity only)
@nascompares
@nascompares 3 года назад
My thoughts exactly, same with Object/subject recognition. Re: dialect, East London, grew up very much in stereotypical cockney boroughs and spent the last 30 odd years living all over the UK. Though, as I have touched on in previous videos, I'm a huge fan of Germany (countless visits) and am in constant awe of your architecture. Have a nice weekend!
@mariusm2402
@mariusm2402 3 года назад
@@nascompares thank you so much for the hint where your dialect is coming from. Sounds nice. Back to DSM7. I guess in many cases it's anyhow better wait a little to not become an advanced beta tester with a daily used system. Although the last updates were always pretty stable from Synology. Take care and stay healthy 👍
@wilfredderksen
@wilfredderksen 2 года назад
Yet another one not working is the photo assistant. In the past when I uploaded without using the assistant, the photos were not shown in phot station even with re-indexing. I will have to try again, I guess.
@highcel
@highcel 2 года назад
Did the AI improve in SynologyMoments since you posted the video? Is subject recognition now available?
@ChristopherWrasse
@ChristopherWrasse 3 года назад
I just upgraded and I'm NOT a huge fan at all on the photo management side of things! I have a separate photos partition with a very strict folder structure (eg. 2021 / 2021_Holiday_Christmas). I was able to granularly set permissions on which of my Synology users could see what folder. Simply going into Photo Station photos, settings, permissions, and setting permissions with checkboxes in bulk for no/read/write access. The only way I see this working and I'll have to test is going to each folder and setting those permissions individually via several clicks and account additions. Or setting up a conditional album pointing to each folder and sharing the album. Either way, not ideal at all, and with 10's thousands of photos and hundreds of event folders, very timely change. I do like the file extension exclusion since I do often have my RAW files as backups within my event folders. It'd be nice if it was folder name excluded too so I could just say anything in my "_RAW" folder should be excluded. And one format they don't have in the dropdown exclusion list that I'd like to see is PSD. Not sure .xmp shows, shouldn't but I haven't checked yet. The facial recognition on the Photo Station was absolute CRAP. It did not match up names with faces very well at all and it's a PAIN to untag a photo! Not sure if this version is any better and not sure I'm willing to try! I’m still trying to find out and I can’t find it ANYWHERE is do admins of the box have access to personal photo spaces? So, if I enabled Synology device backup on my kids' iPads, rather than iCloud, can I see and copy them over to a shared space so they aren’t isolated. And, if administrators don’t see this space, which I’d be surprised if they can’t and not surprised as well if it’s locked, is there a way to shut off the personal space and force everything to shared? On the plus side, it seems peppier, look is more 2021 with better CSS, smaller fonts, better logo. I have a lot of researching and testing to do this weekend to make this work.
@didierhubercoachingconsulting
@didierhubercoachingconsulting 3 года назад
Thank you for all your great videos. All very instructive. Coming back to Synology photos … yes map is really a shame, I can’t believe it is missing. Also I wanted to completely migrate from apple photos to synology photos. But based on my experience the AI on synology does not come close to the Apple one. On apple i can put in … cat … dog … bird … cathedral … etc Apple almost gets 100%. Synology …. Almost nothing. My feeling is synology is ok but certainly not great. And like with most of their stuff it gets you by but does not excel and may be that should be expected for a piece of software that is free. Any comments? Do synology competitors offer better software in general?
@MickeelPramono
@MickeelPramono 3 года назад
I Would like to know about this too!
@vanderneut
@vanderneut 2 года назад
I'm also looking to switch from Apple Photos, because the facial indexing in Apple Photos never seems to run and finish! For the few photos it did (about 1,700 of the 50,000) it works beautifully: faces, map, keyword AI, but it just stopped indexing the rest of the photos. Lots of people complaining about this issue with Apple Photos online. It's so frustrating. Good to know that facial recognition in Synology Photos seems to work well, but what a shame they are not having the map and keyword AI features anymore... Any idea whether those are on the roadmap?
@albertomartin101
@albertomartin101 3 года назад
Thank you for your videos, they are really informative. I am curious about the options that these systems offer in terms of adding metadata to the photos manually. Of course ideally I would like perfect AI recognition, but knowing we're not there yet, is it possible to manually tag photos with names of people/pets/things, places, times... and would these metadata be stored in a standard way so that the photos could be migrated to other systems in the future if necessary? Thank you very much
@thetute59
@thetute59 3 года назад
I can only answer partially. In synology photo station you could manually add tags and change some metadata. Im yet to try syno photos
@jorgensenabrahamson6479
@jorgensenabrahamson6479 2 года назад
the problem I have now with the new DSM 7 version is that I can not have the folder Photos backedup with the desktop drive app. I mean, the moments folder use to be located inside the Driva folder and so I could choose if sync that folder also y my local disk with the Drive app.
@vladlesin4889
@vladlesin4889 3 года назад
In Photo Station I have several accounts with the certain permissions to my photo archive. Besides, I have several phones which backup their photos to my NAS directly(without any third-party clouds) with DS Photo application. So now if I upgrade my NAS to DSM 7.0, I will lose the permissions and the ability to backup photos from my phones, correct?
@davidbaker7218
@davidbaker7218 3 года назад
Just ordered a DS1621+ to replace an old QNAP459 Pro II which is no longer supported for Malware Remover - not good when QNAP seems to be the company under attack. Lack of map view for Photos will stop me updating my new unit to DSM7.
@issacissac9861
@issacissac9861 3 года назад
When I delete photos from the photo app they don’t go into the bin folder which is enabled on the home shared folder…. Any way to get this working or just a missing feature when using the photo app? Thanks
@stepe5652
@stepe5652 3 года назад
how does it handle folder rights? its not working in moments. i want to share whole photo directory with other family members, but would keep some folders private. this wasnt doable on moments.
@rarehologram
@rarehologram 3 года назад
As always a great video, thank you
@rondun77
@rondun77 3 года назад
Can you use Photo station & moments with DSM7?
@rondun77
@rondun77 3 года назад
@UC0KK9oD0rKWy2RrzZHbfvSw So isn’t this a moot point - as soon as DSM 7 becomes mandatory, nobody’s going to have a choice?
@nascompares
@nascompares 3 года назад
Afraid not
@petermoeller5901
@petermoeller5901 2 года назад
I know a fair few photographers, some of them use Synology NASs, some use Drobos or other brands of NASs. None of them however relies on the apps on the NAS to organize their photos, that's just not how professional photographers work. And I guess here you have a reason why Synology dropped the NAS.
@thetute59
@thetute59 3 года назад
Same with the bloody ds drive. The new smartphone apps dont support syncing. App literally got reviewbombed and they plan to add it back. Astonishing to me how they couldnt bring back the hits...
@BlackCountryLad
@BlackCountryLad 3 года назад
Is there a way of displaying Nikon row images in Synology Photos?
@ljason6361
@ljason6361 3 года назад
I use nikon z6II and I can view the NEF (nikon raw) in Synology photos without any problem.
@BlackCountryLad
@BlackCountryLad 3 года назад
@@ljason6361 why is it that I have loads of NEF images showing up white?
@ljason6361
@ljason6361 3 года назад
@@BlackCountryLad That's weird, if you can view those in lightroom you should able to view them in Photos. I directly migrate those photos from the photo station in DSM6, maybe update the application or system?
@BlackCountryLad
@BlackCountryLad 3 года назад
@@ljason6361 I am on the latest DSM 7. The issue is that the latest Synology Photo 1.0.0-0190 does not display the Nikon Raw image. Yes if I export them to Apple Photo they are displayed.
@mikehinh
@mikehinh 3 года назад
Thanks for for your great videos on NAS
@C00ltronix
@C00ltronix 3 года назад
Photos, 3 years in the making and a total disappointment for me. What I specially don't like, I can't rotate images in thumbnail view, means I can't rotate multiple images in one go. Must be one by one, and can only rotate anti-clockwise, means need to rotate often three times. Tag filtering is also very basic, I can't search untagged images, or have a NOT function. Would be also great to have an automatic "source" tag, accidentally I uploaded the phones whatsapp images folder with a few 1000 images that need to be removed manually now. How about a video on alternatives from the Docker world? DigiKam maybe?
@timsouers427
@timsouers427 3 года назад
Can you backup your photo from PC to NAS directly to "homes" folder by using Synology Drive?
@C00ltronix
@C00ltronix 3 года назад
I can't see why not. Pix I place there appear in 'personal space'.
@timsouers427
@timsouers427 3 года назад
@@C00ltronix and synology photo recognise new photo?
@C00ltronix
@C00ltronix 3 года назад
@@timsouers427 I did a test, created a folder in /volume1/homes/youID/Photos/ put some images inside, and "Photos" did what Photos does with it. So it works. Just try it with a few.
@timsouers427
@timsouers427 3 года назад
@@C00ltronix you put the files, try to sync folders through the synology drive and client on PC :) thats my problem, i don't see in Drive client on PC folders under "homes" (never mind admin you or other account)
@MaWeSoGu
@MaWeSoGu 3 года назад
Unfortunately iOS live Photos are still not really supported; it saves a photo and a mov file. When downloading photos from your NAS you wont be able to select another frame of the live photo. Synology Photos only supports assigning access rights on the top level and first level of you album map tree in the shared space
@vanderneut
@vanderneut 2 года назад
Yikes....
@InvisiMan2006
@InvisiMan2006 3 года назад
Massive downgrade with Photos. Synology should be embarrassed and ashamed.
@RevuitNet
@RevuitNet 3 года назад
The big issue for me is it was touted to be like Google photos… if I take pictures on my phone…. I do absolutely nothing and my photos are automatically there… not so with DSM7…. It seems to back up photos while you have app running…. This is poor! If Google can do this, so can Synology, people saying it’s a limitation of phones, if any company at all can do it and get it working then it’s possible. Also in my case we are talking about an iPhone. Synology sort it out… you held back for ages about moments saying you had to tweak it and make sure it’s was right… between the missing features and this basic usability error… what are you doing. No one is going to open an app to ensure photos are backing up…. Too much effort!
@familiedegier7072
@familiedegier7072 3 года назад
Great video, thank you👍
@Unknown15626
@Unknown15626 3 года назад
I’m glad you made this video
@nascompares
@nascompares 3 года назад
Cheers
@Breakhoven
@Breakhoven 3 года назад
How to downgrade back to 6.2?
@C00ltronix
@C00ltronix 3 года назад
You can't.
@Breakhoven
@Breakhoven 3 года назад
@@C00ltronix not good
@C00ltronix
@C00ltronix 3 года назад
@@Breakhoven Here is a trick you can try on your own risk: emby.media/community/index.php?/topic/89848-tutorialdowngrade-from-dsm-70-to-dsm-623/
@planfire
@planfire Год назад
I need subject recognition!
@myglowinghalo
@myglowinghalo 3 года назад
Brilliant.
@danibluray
@danibluray 3 года назад
No object recognition. Basic “AI”. DSM7 - such a disappointment photo management.
@kormocziaron4362
@kormocziaron4362 3 года назад
Synology Photo is absolutely rubbish. Look at geotagging: it does not matter if your photos have coordinates and location names in the metadata, Synology pulls some some names from god knows where. Whatever it finds. Well, it is fine, if you never leave your town, but I can hardly filter on Chinese, Cambodian, Thai, Hindi, Tibetan, etc. locations. Meanwhile I have all the photos tagged with Latin caracters... Awesome. And it is not even consistent. If it found a location name in my native transcript, it will use that. Brilliant. And yes, the map view is gone. Also it is sloooooow. But that is my fault, should not have taken that many photos. Face recongnition? I don't know, I tagged them since 2009 in Picasa. Obviously all that is useless. Synology found zero people. I did not even expect it would recognize the tags, but well, there is nothing. Anyway the issues are theorethical, since the photos load in long minutes per page, so absolutely useless, like searching high res photos on the internet in 1996.
@michaelflamingsword3131
@michaelflamingsword3131 3 года назад
Qnap Photo Station needs to have upgraded Social Media send options. Half of it is not operating anymore and some are Chinese that nobody uses then them. So put a feature option in for it. Thanks.
@xr500t
@xr500t 3 года назад
Yeah, not thrilled with DSM7, therefore, I'm not going to DOWGRADE at this point.
@remomattei
@remomattei 2 года назад
Too bad that you cannot show photos without Auth
@michaelhull7873
@michaelhull7873 2 года назад
You know what is really telling...the fact that this video is more than a year old and...Synology...NOTHING! I consider Synology Photo's USELESS at this point! Kind of disappointing that NASCompares are such Synology Fan Boys and continue to push this company and not calling them out more where they lack!!!
@LusioCata
@LusioCata Месяц назад
Just a tip from a non-native English speaker: Your English in VERY hard to understand!
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