Syntakt Week 2 + My thoughts on Elektron's Drum Machines: Syntakt , Analog Rytm Mk2 and Machinedrum

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Hello there!
Week two with Syntakt and having lot of fun. I received a lot of questions about how it compares to Rytm and Machinedrum, so I decided to spend a little time talking about that.
In the first part of the video I will show you how Syntakt works with external sounds ( I think it can be a great small performance machine). I am using the Abstract Instruments Avalon ( 303 clone on steroids ) and the Oto Boum.
In the second part I will discuss what are the strengths of the Elektron drum trio : Rytm, Machinedrum and Syntakt. While I will start from a similar pattern to show the differences, this is not to be considered a comparison, but my personal ideas on the production value of them.
Spoiler alert: I love them all and keeping them, as they are great for different uses.
This video is not supported or sponsored by any company, all I say is my honest opinion.
00:00 Introduction
03:15 My thought on Syntakt after 2 weeks
04:16 Some new patterns
06:19 Adding external sounds
09:40 My thoughts on the three Elektron Instruments
11:50 Same pattern, different results
16:40 What modern Elektron machines leads to
19:15 Final thoughts
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@lordgeronimo72 2 года назад

Good stuff! Always enjoy hearing your perspective on gear.

@OoraMusic 2 года назад

thank Jeremy!

@kugelrund398 7 месяцев назад

Love your work! So interesting and inspiring!

@rvller 2 года назад

Cool comparison and great sounds as usual!

@OoraMusic 2 года назад

thanks!

@peladoclaus 2 года назад

Hi, really good demo. You're totally right about each box having its own personality. Elektron seems to want each box to be it's own thing, like quirky siblings. Very much digging your raster noto stuff, and looking forward to hearing your more danceable creations. Cheers!

@OoraMusic 2 года назад

Thanks! working on that stuff these days!

@finspire8632 2 года назад

Thanks for the great video!!! I think here it is so clear that the Analog Rytm is the most inspiring and great for experimental. Syntakt is most compact and complete, although perhaps inferior sounding (which one can fix in studio while mixing) and it has few tricks up his own sleeve. Machinedrum is just a classic... sounds great and that grittiness reminds me quite a bit of the Erica LXR-02! Super useful comparison💜

@OoraMusic 2 года назад

thanks! I find myself using one or another and always having fun !

@XanderEwald 2 года назад

The video I have been waiting for, thanks! Machinedrum holds up well with the newer machines, still one of the best sounding Elektron boxes.

@OoraMusic 2 года назад

agreed, something magical about it!

@Gianluccazz 2 года назад

With the last 4 machines tracks you can do very glitchy and unexpected things with lfos and parameters lock and control all functions.

@odalv7278 Год назад

Machinedrum is amazing... but the kicks & bass just suck in comparison to new Elektron boxes

@AdamsOlympia 6 месяцев назад

@@odalv7278 Sample the RYTM kick on the MD. Problem solved. ;)

@YISHENG-xr9er 4 месяца назад

unfortunately sold it like all my homestudio to pay my study i had it with the tanzbar next to it and at the tanzbar was sold first the kick can be really goooood on the machinedrum even if it's digital and you can also use a sample in 12bit ! for bass you're right i had a slim phatty@@odalv7278

@amenbrothersSE Год назад

Love it!

@OoraMusic Год назад

Thanks!!

@jessarc6715 2 года назад

Sensible exploration of the Elektorn drum machines, very well exposed and reasoned!

@OoraMusic 2 года назад

Thanks Jess!

@hellf.o 2 года назад

Awesome!👍👍

@OoraMusic 2 года назад

Thank you! Cheers!

@Saw2F2 Год назад

nice one!

@PORRFNK Год назад

For me the difference is: Machinedrum is a modular drum machine and 16 part midi sequencer with the best sound but lacks some sequencing functionality compared to the newer machines. Believe it or not, but it can record automations with CTR-8P. Rytm is a fullblood drum machine that lets you do fingerdrumming and combine analog with samples, it has that analog sound with lots of low end, it hits HARD and is immediate. Syntakt is more modern sound and UI wise, while still compact, a bigger brother to the model cycles. per pattern sound management, the FX are modern, the midi implementation is better although has a vital flaw when sequencing external synths or drum modules, it sends key first and CC last :(

@OoraMusic Год назад

great overview!

@zakdavis687 Год назад

I really enjoyed this video of these three (four) machines. I did not feel it was fair to "compare" the Analog Rytm to the Syntakt with the OTO BOUM switched on, as that is an additonal benefit of the Rytm. Loved the Machinedrum. Many thanks.

@OoraMusic Год назад

Glad you enjoyed it!!

@carriersignal Год назад

Great video. All these boxes are fantastic, but for me the Rytm is the one to have right now. Might consider getting a Machinedrum later, or possibly a Tempest.

@OoraMusic Год назад

all of them are great choices!!

@odalv7278 Год назад

Tempest and Machinedrum = 2 different universes

@evangilles1277 2 года назад

If you, just like me, don't like the Analog Rytm form factor, just replace your AR mk2 by MK1, it has the same form factor than Machinedrum and you will save money as well. And This one was the one I have been expecting for a long time, I don't like the form factor and the pads neither, and was really surprised and glad to see that the best parts from Analog Rytm have been put in the Syntakt (the analog bass drums), and I am unable to get what AR can do that Syntakt wouldn't: Dual VCO is here, I like more control-all than "perfs" so... You would have liked that you made a pattern on the three machines, and then reproduce it on both others, it would be fun to hear Syntakt and AR try to imitate the MD.

@OoraMusic 2 года назад

good idea for a future video!

@jupiterflare 2 года назад

Hey bro thanks for vídeo i love it - I really enjoy your music - what is your tempo ? I’m trying to explore different style most of all I have been in 4/4 127 - but I have to try more poly - it I’ll be great if you can share some tips of getting into this beat you do - very cool 👊🏼🔥

@OoraMusic 2 года назад

Ciao! most of my stuff is 100bpm, here I was doing something at 120 and 130 too

@71collective 2 года назад

Nice video 👌👌

@OoraMusic 2 года назад

thanks!

@71collective 2 года назад

@@OoraMusic 😁👌

@PatrickSugarfix 2 года назад

Thanks for the fantastic breakdown! I really appreciate you calling out their strengths rather than doing a direct comparison. By the way, those Rytm patterns you showcased are so good!

@OoraMusic 2 года назад

thanks!!

@PORRFNK Год назад

I think the Machinedrum paired with the Nord drum2 is such an awesome combo

@OoraMusic Год назад

it is!

@poisonousbirds 2 года назад

i don't even know how you got those great twinkly, glitchy sounds out of the rytm. any tips? sounds amazing!

@OoraMusic 2 года назад

its all about filter and resonance on any machine!

@formersea 2 года назад

@@OoraMusic you using the impulse machine or samples because if impulse machine should be able to replicate on Syntakt

@alaksandrporakh601 Год назад

This Alva-Notoish patterns are dope 💥💥💥

@OoraMusic Год назад

thanks!!

@nu7m39.in.l0v3 2 года назад

One question, how were syntakt and machine drum connected to your sound system 🤔? I am asking this cause I saw no audio cables connected in this two. Just curious how you did it. Thanks for the showing the comparison of the trio. Peace ✌

@vinylarchaeologist 2 года назад

I believe the Rytm is on a stand. It’s a little bit hard to see, but the Syntakt audio cables are at the right edge of the Rytm, just underneath it.

@OoraMusic 2 года назад

yes Rytm on a stand, it covers the cables :)

@colinbrash 2 года назад

I didn’t realize when you mentioned Raster-Noton that Vladislav Delay was on this label. One of my favorite artists (also across his pseudonyms). I really, really love Entain. Any recommendations for other artists on this label?

@OoraMusic 2 года назад

they rules! I love byetone, Alva noto, kangding ray..

@frankcifarelli3473 Год назад

Ryoji Ikeda (who isn't on the Rastor-Noton anymore, I think), too. That Rytm pattern took me straight to thinking of him

@andrwwaugh 2 года назад

Thanks for the video! I'm thinking I'd love to sell my digitakt and get an analog rytm at some point I'm not really liking the form factor of the digitakt, and I think I want something more focussed on drums for my setup. A mix of sampled and synthesised sounds ideal for me. Sometimes deciding on samples to load onto the unit feels like a chore and synthesising is more fun.. however there's some magic that can be had from layering a sample with a synth layer or resampling something you've made, or for taking tracks made in your daw and creating live arrangements.. And a Roland tr8s (Not because it's the smartest drum machine, but, I have one on loan and just can't beat the performance mixer layout and share number of parts it has!) I wish there was an elektron box with 12 parts of synth and sample based Stereo sample support Loop slicing And a mixer layout! Some kind of analog rytm / tr8s / octatrack hybrid? But maybe I just need to use a computer for that? 🤣

@leftmono1016 Год назад

The RYTM is an excellent step up from the DT in terms of percussion. I’ve only got a Mk1 so keep the DT for sampling duty. None of these boxes does everything with enough tracks so you do need a few of them 😀👍

@thomaspatrick8641 2 года назад

I’d love to see what you did to make those more abstract patterns on the Rytm.

@OoraMusic 2 года назад

will do some tutorial on my Patreon soon!

@knobsstrings 2 года назад

What are you doing for Superbooth? Can’t find you on the timetable… 😳

@OoraMusic 2 года назад

Will do just a small performance , not sure if I can announce yet!

@knobsstrings 2 года назад

@@OoraMusic Maybe I can catch it then. We will see. Have fun anyways! 🙂

@radiantjumper Год назад

Is machine drum the best as far as sound quality and the variety of drum sounds? I wonder why Electron discontinued The machine drum. How does Analog Rytm MK2 compares to The machine drum?

@OoraMusic Год назад

It is not the best in my opinion. It has his own sound . It might be the best depending on your workflow, but you need to remember that the sequencer in it is really less versatile than the one in the Rytm or Syntakt. Also I feel the letters have more sound versatility .

@baramundi__88__ Год назад

Wonderful, so much potential. Question for all! What other Elektron machine is closest to MD if any? I wish Electron would reissue Machiedrum, same FM audio engiene and resolution, 12bit, improved sequencer, improved effect and improved audio engine all in a box same size as syntax and around the same price.. The price for a used MD on eBay is close to twice the price of what it used to sell for.

@OoraMusic Год назад

I think Syntakt is your best bet! Not the same, but in the same universe at least!

@anthonyp4949 2 года назад

Thanks. I love your videos.… i have 2 questions: I recently bought lxr-2 and I’m thinking about replacing it with syntakt. You’ve used both. Which would say excels at being just a drum machine? Also, the sequencing of external gear with syntakt is a consideration of mine. I already have a few sequencers (OXI-one, squid, torso, five12 vector, NDLR) that I constantly switch between, some more than others. You’ve used a few of these. Does syntackt bring anything new to the sequencing table? Not necessarily feature wise but more like interaction and performance wise. I’ve never used an elektron product before. I appreciate any insight.

@OoraMusic 2 года назад

if you don't have any Elektron sequencers I'd say is great to have one. I love them. Syntakt would be more powerful than the lxr, even tho the lxr have a very particular sound.

@finspire8632 2 года назад

@@OoraMusic Great video love the sound, so inspiring! What you are saying here, I think this particular sound you refer too makes the LXR-02 a true modern classic! It is a bargain for the price, cause it is just simply very different... and you can ''mellow it down'' buy running it through the Syntakt's audio ins and use analog drive and filter -envelope -lfo... :-). Analog Rytm is truly a strong piece as well, perhaps even better than Syntakt, hard to decide, there are pros and cons to both

@finspire8632 2 года назад

I would strongly suggest , if I may, that you keep the LXR-02 and add the Syntakt... LXR-02 is so unique nothing like it... bit quirky to sound design and operate, but oh boy it delivers!

@qWhertz 2 года назад

Thank you fro this comparison! MD is more limited on sequencing but sounds

@OoraMusic 2 года назад

agree with you!

@substance90 2 года назад

The Machinedrum can do much more than what is shown here. The TX machines showcased here are actually my least favorite, after EFM, P-I and E12. Pretty much the only thing I prefer more on my Rytm mk1 is the performance scenes. Everything else Machinedrum ✌️

@OoraMusic 2 года назад

I tried my best.Sorry if I didn't meet your standards.

@auxorion Год назад

The Bass and Snare drum machines on the RYTM are great if you use them right and layer them with white noise machines. Otherwise, the EFM and E12 machines on the MD are gold. (Also, making percussion out of Sine wave and white noise is awesome)

@odalv7278 Год назад

thanks for a very nice comparisom; in min 18:00 you show a glitchy sequence on Analogrytm (which is very cool - did you use samles? i wonder how you've acheved it.); but Machinedrum can do it as well and even a whole lot more insanely futuristic!.... there is a video about it & i can post a link if any intrest.

@OoraMusic Год назад

No samples used! is all made with filters and resonances tweaks

@auxorion Год назад

I’m a bit confused about the Syntakt vs RYTM comparison.. is it possible to match them up?? You had so much stuff going on there - overdrive and the compressor.. all I want to know is how well can the Syntakt match up with the RYTM with its basic machine. Also, are the overdrives different? The Syntakt manual says analog overdrive. Is it a different analog overdrive? I wish I had both machines to compare them right now - just BDHD on each, SDHD on each, etc etc. Is it possible to just do a quick comparison showing exactly what is the real difference of these basic analog machines. (Also, how close the like digital machines are to the Machinedrum equivalents in the EFM)

@OoraMusic Год назад

The basic sounds are mostly the same, in fact im using more the Syntakt lately bc it has my favorite sounds from Rytm. The distortion is different to me.

@auxorion Год назад

@@OoraMusic Thank you for confirming! I love the overdrive on my RYTM but I think the Syntakt may be the dream machine for me.. it has everything I use from RYTM and nothing I don’t use (I hate using samples on it, and really don’t like the Toms at all.) I’ve been looking to get a Model: Cycles too but don’t like the limitations. Then Syntakt comes around like an answer. (my RYTM is mk1 and always needing repair/service I’ve been wanting to replace/upgrade it -- issues with the drum pads, no matter how many times I've sent it into Elektron.. I'm starting to think the RYTM Mk1 drum pads just have a design flaw.. I press one pad and multiple pads trigger. been wanting to just upgrade, but if the Syntakt sounds as good as the RYTM with its analog machines and cymbal machines, I won't lose anything upgrading to the Syntakt, since I don't use samples... it's just this video made me think maybe the Syntakt sounds inferior somehow)

@rustikinc63 2 года назад

Interesting.

@OoraMusic 2 года назад

thanks!

@jsutton241 2 года назад

Honestly the rytm sounded the best to me, as it should it $1700, lol

@OoraMusic 2 года назад

Can't go wrong with Rytm

@SharedVision333 Год назад

Yeah, the mduw has a lower bit rate so you get that crunchy vibe.

@rdomain 2 года назад

I'm a fan of the Raster Norton type stuff. Your patterns you played........ So that was done with all the internal synth engines? I prefer not to use samples too. Cheers!

@OoraMusic 2 года назад

all internal sounds!!I don't like samples too

@RicardoBrv 2 года назад

😱😱😱

@OoraMusic 2 года назад

@taha_mirza 2 года назад

Hello guys can anyone tell me the difference between using vst plugins on a DAW vs using these boxes? why would someone go and spend in different boxes tons of cables and connections, is it not possible to produce similar tones, sounds, music in a DAW with some vst plugins or synthisers? thank you.

@OoraMusic 2 года назад

honestly , the only differences lie in the process, not in the final products. You can do the same music with plugins, hardly people will notice what you used. But to me the hands on factor of hardware is the only way I can create, so I am happy to spend money on it. Ciao!

@taha_mirza 2 года назад

@@OoraMusic great, thank you 👍🏻

@finspire8632 2 года назад

@@OoraMusic Exactly it is like playing the instrument (on hardware) vs clicking the mouse... and there's a psychological effect by immersing yourself in the process of music/g'roove making on the hardware... in the DAW I almost feel like I'm the ''observer'' - strange, but kind of true. Those happy accidents on the hardware also make the inspiration flowing... and in DAW accidents are usually not so happy - resulting in a spinning beach-ball of death or blue (insert your favourite colour here) screen ---- (just kidding of course)🙂

@Digiphex 11 месяцев назад

I hate the form factor as well of the Rytm. I had the original little Rytm I, the same size as Octatrack and it was perfect but the display went bad. It's an example of taking something I liked and ruining it. Sometimes companies do this!

@teamcoalhapcharcoal 8 месяцев назад

agree, the MK2 analog boxes are among the ugliest synths ever made lol

@joemoe1906 2 года назад

What is the green and red piece of gear? I couldn't hear what you said it was

@jedilicious7025 2 года назад

It’s an OTO BOUM :-)

@OoraMusic 2 года назад

oto boum, compressor, distortion

@joemoe1906 2 года назад

Thanks it seems really useful

@festuswilliams654 2 года назад

MD sounds vibey..

@OoraMusic 2 года назад

definitely

@inkajoo 2 года назад

The lowly predecessor to the Syntakt should get some recognition. I feel that it also has everything you need to make songs, and it is $700 cheaper.

@OoraMusic 2 года назад

you mean the cycles?

@dotsmusichicago 2 года назад

What is this predecessor you speak of?

@inkajoo 2 года назад

Yep!

@marco_movie 2 года назад

Ciao! È vero che non uso Patreon o il link di Thomann… però ti ascolto quasi ogni giorno su Apple Music: spero che pure conti qualcosa ;-)

@OoraMusic 2 года назад

ahah grazie Marco!!

@moralrevulsionLive 11 месяцев назад

Always thought 2x four mk1 and a digitakt can make a good machinedrum:p i believe machinedrum is not a drum machine is a self contained modular groovebox. Rytm on the other hand that thing is build with one thing in mind. Dirty saturated compressed delicious drums. Syntakt had it 2 weeks sold it. That thing gets out of sync all the time even standalone. And the sound is meh. The tr8s kills it my humble opinion. But for the experimental mind i think syntakt has its way there in a setup. But it cant compare to a digitone either on kicks:p

@marcosrotllan Год назад

Do you think the empress bass compressor bass mkii does the oto boum job?

@OoraMusic Год назад

not a clue :D

@oguzisk9204 5 месяцев назад

fuck machinedrume sounds so good and unique compared to syntakt

@mofateam1 2 года назад

Machinedrum looks best.

@OoraMusic 2 года назад

I completely agree

@auxorion Год назад

@@Leviathan-mj8gi They’d ruin it. The MD is magical

@odalv7278 Год назад

Machindrum will always remain a timeless, badass and the crispiest futuristic machine-drum ever! The percussions cut trough any mix and it's imo the best (and best looking) digital synth drum ever made!

@mofateam1 Год назад

@@odalv7278 i wont ever sell mine...