Synthetic Fuel - THIS is the future of internal combustion! 

@@jonathanparle8429 Totally agree, well said! Well apart from the bit with “off their heads”😆

The experiment with the car age has been run and the verdict is in - everyone using personal cars to get around is a shit idea and absolutely should be discouraged. Very few of us are car enthusiasts, most people just want to get around cheaply and conveniently and better city design and public transportation is the solution to congestion and all the health and productivity problems of mass car use.

@@froggy0162 no it's not. Cities aren't for everyone and won't be for everyone. Even in highly metropolitan countries like Japan, the people prefer cars when they can use them. Go back to your reddit hovel bugman!

@@froggy0162 not everyone lives in or around a city.

@@nielsei The percentage of the population that wouldn’t benefit from better urban design and improved transportation options is very small. You’ll always find edge cases, but we are playing the big picture game here and disincentivising car use in urban areas has many economic and public health benefits.

Same here. Government's are having a knee jerk reaction to the whole thing. The only people who benefit from EV's are car manufacturers because it means you have to buy their new cars. They don't want alternative fuels keeping cars on the road that they've already sold.

The same reason they pumped vaccines out, compliy or feel the wrath of fumes etc . Do people not remember when you was told to get a diesel vehicle. People get brainwashed too easily, not saying you of course

Exactly why not use the existing infrastructure we already have that's been tried, tested and refined (Excuse the pun) for the last 100 Years? All that spare wind power they keep saying they can't use when the wind blows at the wrong time - whn no one needs electricity - why not use it for generating fuels? The thing with EVs is the idealistic there is no tailpipe emissions, but that is only at the end product, what about all the manufacturing, all the extra infrastruture needed, all the conversion of all that machinery, re-development of engineering concepts. How much energy does that need, and will need in the next 20 or so Years, and you can't tell me hand on heart that it'll be green energy.

There's nothing wrong with EVs, and there's NO reason why BOTH of these things can't be done at the same time! As the quote goes, "both is good."

@@MaryAnnNytowl There's nothing wrong with actual EV's, but their incredibly polluting batteries, not so great!

Er, you have been able to buy synthetic petrol in Britain for decades. It's called Aspen, and is used by those who often manage tree plantations etc. It has no smell, and doesn't go "off" like unleaded does if left for a while. The cost? It's around £30 per gallon..... And the projections so far completed have indicated that they may (may) be able to produce and market this new stuff for around £10 per litre. There is *never* going to be enough of this stuff to go round. It is estimated the plant, once built, may be able to produce around 500 million litres per year. Just to give that some scale, the World gets through more petrol than that in a single *day* Don't build your hopes up. It's a non starter. The primary aim is to keep Porsche's motorsport activities viable once supplies of petrol become sporadic, which could begin to happen within the next 10 years.

@@Brian-om2hh So you're saying about 365 (or maybe about 500) plants would be enough to supply the entire world with current levels of supply. There are about 700 oil refineries in the world, and on top of that electric vehicles will mean that demand for petrol will decrease significantly.

@@Brian-om2hh Errrrm ten pounds a litre works out to 45 quid a gallon since a gallon is 4.5 litres so even more expensive by your reasoning, BUT you appear to calculate this cost based simply on the output of ONE single smallish refinery as if that was going to be the be all and end all of it and therefore for a fuel thirsty world it could never be viable......wonder what would have happened a 120 years ago if people with more vision than you seem to have thought as you do when the infernal combustion engine was invented.........and you could only buy a gallon of fuel..........at your local CHEMISTS - which was the only place that supplied it as petrol stations etc hadnt been invented yet ? and, as far as I can tell when converted for inflation over that 120 years was more or less just as expensive as the prices you allude to ?.and besides our new "one world" government I worry more about middle eastern potentates (opec) and the global giant hydrocarbon fuel corporations and other vested interests killing off the competition to their revenue streams, as they are widely known to have done in the past.

But the Government still have no idea how to Generate ENOUGH Electricity 24/7 to be able to Charge all those EV's, neither there in England or Here in Australia, "our" Government have even LESS ideas than you do. All you hear them chanting is "Renewables, renewables, renewables", and everyone knows that you can't have 24/7 Electricity with JUST RENEWABLES, Germany nearly Froze to Death last Winter because they put ALL their money on Renewables [ just like the Australian Labour Party has ]. This is all going to come to a very bad end, I can see it. There MUST be a mixture of Ideas for Energy and The Governments are cutting every tie to other sources, other than renewables for some reason, and the Australian Government has made a Commitment to be "out of" fossil fuels by 2030, with basically no plan B for 24/7 Electricity, and they don't even want to discuss Thorium Nuclear, Which would be our Best Choice here.

If you want to pay the equivalent of $32 per gallon, be my guest.

Not just for classic cars. All cars.

If it is anything like EV Charging Stations it will take a Looong time, AND you have the entire "EV only" crowd making things as impossible as they can.

@@scottcarr3264except we already have the network and retailers in place!

Doubt it, they don't want people owning cars, thats the reason they are creating 15 minute cities to end travelling and to make it as awkward as possible for drivers and with this climate lie too many gullible believe it.

What is wrong with existing petrol then?

There is no future for ICE powered vehicles. All investment is going into EVs and battery tech. I’ve owned an EV for 4 years, yes it was more expensive than the fossil fuel equivalent but I am saving €1,500 a year (I live in France) on fuel over 20,000 km. Most of my driving is covered by the solar panels on my roof, try filling your fossil car up at home! If I didn’t have the panels I would be spending about €600 on electricity to cover that distance. Synthetic fuels will have a small part to play but the main effort in decarbonising will come from EVs.

@@kiae-nirodiariesencore4270 No to the EV revolution

@@bonk352 It isn’t a revolution David it’s an evolution, combustion technology is being replaced by a superior, cleaner and more efficient one. You can say ‘no’ as much as you like but that will make no difference to the outcome. In the past 4 years EV sales have gone from 3% of the new car market in Europe (2019) to 21% last year, this year will see about 1 in 3 new cars being either BEV or PHEV. ICE car sales peaked in 2018 and are never coming back. As volumes fall it will be harder for OEMs to make money out of them as scale economies are lost. The only thing holding back EV sales is battery availablity, there is no shortage of demand for EVs but look at the stats on GWh output of batteries...142 GWh in 2020, 260 GWh in 2021 and 480 GWh last year....technology is improving all the time with LFP chemistries making batteries cheaper, while energy density improves adding range and shortening charging times. Why would I want to triple my running costs and go back driving a petrol car? Why would I want to pump smelly, expensive and polluting fuel into my car?

@@kiae-nirodiariesencore4270 evs my arse,you can stuff um.souless characterless throw away white goods.no thanks.

@@kiae-nirodiariesencore4270Really? My EV was more expensive to charge than my vw golf was to run on fuel.

Nobody is pushing anyone into buying anything they don't want to buy but for most car drivers its just about getting themselves and the family to where they are going for the cheapest cost, never mind all the green stuff, EV's do currently offer the cheapest way to go for all those local journeys, especially if you can charge for free at work or using your own solar power. I haven't watched this video to the end yet but this fuel won't be cheap £20 a gallon? Certainly more expensive than renewable electricity long-term. As they say its a no-brainer, keep the noisy gas guzzler for weekends and track-days perhaps.

@@st200ol Right now this is much more expensive than regular petrol however the process itself is less expensive than regular fossil fuel refining. If it were as large scale as modern oil refining it would be cheaper.

@@st200ol sorry, I don't agree with your first point. Although the public can still choose what, when and how they drive it's pretty clear which technology has been chosen as the 'one replacement' for internal combustion. WIth petrol/diesel cars ending in a few years, manufacturers had the power to research and invest in all kinds of other options but have all followed the same path - I can't fault them, it's business and you're only going to invest in something that the majority will buy into. I'm not anti-change, we need to stop burning fossils. I'm not anti-EV either. I just wish that all the options had equal coverage.

@@tallblokesam What other option would you suggest? I don't believe there is any other viable option that can work. This synthetic fuel certainly won't scale up to power every car and truck on the road, perhaps we can power trucks and planes with this stuff and use electric for cars either via batteries or? To me anyway it doesn't make a lot of sense to reclaim CO2 from the atmosphere to burn it again and put it back into the atmosphere.

@@GlamStacheessnostalgialounge But it's not going to be large scale. It never will scale up past an enthusiast level or maybe very specific and limited commercial applications. It's just not going to happen. In the future ICE cars will largely be toys exclusively for the rich and well off to play with. In a lot of ways, much like horses are now.

I'm from the USA, I really think this is a better option than electric "crap" cars

Likewise !

That won’t ever happen. There’s a market for ICE, EV and Hydrogen Fuel Cell!

You may be waiting quite some time. There is little future in engines that use thousands of moving parts that wear or break, and require regular servicing.....

I speak from driving an EV for the last ten years! They are great to drive and save you money! I can only say look what happened to televisions after they invented flat screens in any size you want. The old tech will soon be making its way to the scrap yard at ever increasing speed!

Off topic but that sounds like maintenance hell 😂

​@@charliecollings2295 Hello LOL. You'd be surprised. The Range Rover is actually surprisingly reliable and good, having owned it for nearly 20 years aside from corrosion due to leaky rear boot seal and from the pollen filter covers its not really cost that much aside from petrol. I bought the E46 325ci sport on a whim and the person who owned it before me had ran it on a budget so cost a lot of money to initially get perfect, but 8 years on it too is supremely reliable but it does cost me quite a bit each year on servicing and maintenance but considering it is my daily car and 256,000 miles it's worth it as I a don't really like the new stuff🙂

politicians will be convinced by taxing this new invention we as petrolheads will pay thru the nose for this new invention

@@mariataif You're right - they have us over a barrel good and proper!

Don't vote for those people!!! Trump 2024!!!

Is it a 2 stroke?

And simply put, it's 10 times the price of your fossil fuels. Enjoy!

Can you seriously expect the majority of people to pay £5 a litre for fuel? At this point when an EV can be charged at 7.5 pence a kilowatt at home. No, like it or lump it you are going electric!

It won't..

I was about to say if this has any hope of taking off it needs to be ‘open source’ so anyone can develop this technology. Sadly like all good ideas this will be hidden behind patents and ultimately will die a death as both the government and oil companies gang up against it

Honestly its easy to make. I've even done so much at home - with bioethanol, methanol and so on. Refining it further to get to this fuel isn't all that difficult either - though it is energy intensive - as the rep alluded to when he said "so long as you have renewable electricity it doesn't matter how efficient it is". I would be amazed if the big oil companies hadn't done massive research into this and will almost certainly have a method on standby ready for when (if) they are legislated into using it. The thing is it will take people like Coryton to act as Tesla did in the ev world and give them the kick up the backside they need to start and do something about it. I'm all for it. It makes far more sense to have fuel stored in liquid form than batteries for numerous reasons from ease and speed of filling to energy density to infrastructure compatability and so on. It also offers stability since it can be stored and used as and when needed in large quantities so with solar and wind being unpredictable by their nature it offers a great chance to buffer then and make full use of everything they can offer. All without the need for massive batteries being produced in huge numbers. This stuff in plug-in hybrids would be about as clean as you could currently get but even in something like that little Austin seven its still far cleaner than making and running yet another two tonne bev.

Porsche have been developing their synthetic fuels with Exon Mobil and Siemens. Currently testing this fuel in Porsche racing series across the globe Total Energies have of 2022 have been running all of the cars in the WEC series on a synthetic fuel made from waste gases from the alcohol industry.

@@siraff4461 I'm also all for this, the hurdle is the renewable energy, it's all well and good saying we can just use as much renewable as we like but that means you are taking the renewable supply away from other uses such as the power grid and just moving the problem! Efficiency in creation 100% matters as this is effectively going to be the price!

@@ClassicMinishorts The big difference with using it for this would be being able to use the same amount all the time. Balancing the grid is one of the largest wastes of capacity and a lot of renewables have to be turned off or capacities reduced at certain times because of this. Remember if there are lots of ev's charging thats a big load on the grid too but then they rely on renewables being available at exactly the right times - something which is almost never the case. When there is extra capacity use it to make fuel and that then also goes to offset the times when there isn't. Its also worth noting that electric cars are nowhere near as efficient in overall use as people like to make out. By the time you add in charging losses, grid losses and so on they really aren't all that much better overall unless run on renewables and there are scenarios where they are worse. This (in the right car) has the potential to make better use of the available energy.

The exhaust emissions are the same as fossil fuels so no different to fossil fuels in terms of toxicity. You just don't have rigs drilling and extracting. Keeping ICE on the road indefinitely is not a good thing. It's great that classics will live on but the current econoboxes should be recycled.

Putting millions of people out of work gives you hope. I'm very happy for you.

@@Gary-Seven-and-Isis-in-1968 the world progresses, jobs and industries come and go it's just how things have always been and will be with the decrease in fossil fuel production and ICE engine expertise. Same thing happened to blacksmiths, farriers, coach builders, carpenters, steam engine production etc. No need to be dramatic, It will happen over a very long period of time.

@@Jamessansome Same toxicity, maybe, but any greenhouse gases are recycled from the atmosphere and not exhumed from the ground.

@@dungareesareforfools are you referring to CCS or DACS? Neither are efficient. CCS is capturing a percentage (around 50% so not all) of carbon directly from a plant burning fuels & energy is consumed in doing so. CCS is a way for the continuation of burning of fuels and business as usual. Or in other words if CCS didn't exist then the companies burning fuels and creating more CO2 would have to stop doing it. DACS is an inefficient way to capture CO2, it's also extremely energy intensive for the amount of CO2 captured and is only feasible if using renewable electricity. That renewable energy would be far better to be used to directly charge batteries removing ICE miles. DACS business model is to 'sell carbon credits' to dirty companies so they can carry on polluting. It's not a business model to capture CO2 but again used to allow the continuation of burning fuels. Production of eFuels from 'well to wheel' is 16% efficient. An EV 'well to wheel' is 72% efficient. That wasted efficiency cost is passed onto the consumer hence why eFuels are extremely expensive and charging your EV is comparatively cheap.

NONSENSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Our Liberal overlords DONT CARE what fuel we use or where we got it - their focus ONLY is on disposing of personal transport OF ALL TYPES!!!!!!! In related news - during WW2 - the German messerschmit BF 109 fighter had a larger displacement engine than the allied P 51 fighter with its Rolls Royce engine - and the P 51 could fly both FASTER AND FARTHER on its SMALLER ENGINE than the German 109 fighter.................................... and the REASON WAS SIMPLE - Germans were using ETHANOL at 85 octane and allies were using fuel made from dead dinosaurs at 95 octane!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The point I make is the when horsepower and engine efficiency are considered ethanol is seen as a POOR substitute fuel for your ICE vehicle compared to traditional oil based fuel - and in addition being alcohol based - ethanol is hygroscopic and will READILY ABSORB WATER VAPOUR FROM THE AIR - which is why modern cars have fuel systems that are SO CAREFULLY SEALED so you wont end up with a gas tank half full of water with related CORROSION ISSUES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Excellent news. Particulates and other noxious emissions in urban area are a serious public health problem.

@@froggy0162 luckily these batteries for EV’s come with no environmental or exploitative cost then really isn’t it….oh wait.

@@H72dagger Less impact over the life of the product than an ICE car.! And batteries are becoming cobalt and other rare earth metal free - BYD and CATL batteries for example.

@@H72dagger Also, Whatsaboutism is a common logical fallacy. Just saying ;)

I'm sure we can mass produce this stuff here in the usa. We have atlantic ocean to the east, pacific to the west and the gulf of Mexico down south for water. We need electricity which we can get through solar power and we have huge patches of desert such as California, nevada, arizona, new mexico and texas.

Apologies if I upset you, but it's not all digging. There are some concerns with different lithium retrieval techniques. But once it's out and in an EV battery, after 25+ years we can recycle the materials. We can't do that with petrol or synthetic fuel. I've driven from Kent to Wales and back, also Kent to Edinburgh in my EV over 7 years. My little Leaf drives 500 miles every alternative weekend. I never wait for a charger as I just continue to a different one on a journey. We had 10,000 EV charging locations (multi connector) in 2019. 21,000 at the end of 2022. At the end of January 2023, there were 37851 electric vehicle charging points across the UK, across 22355 charging locations. This represents a 31% increase in the total number of charging devices since January 2022. If you join, they will build more. They add 800+ every month. Synthetic fuel is a huge contributor to CO2, SOx and NOx between production and tail pipe emissions. Also it's extremely expensive to produce and requires extensive fossil fuel use. It's alot easier to run electric cables and increase load then to create logistics to deploy new fuels. I expect kits will become commonplace for 3rd parties to electrify any car at a reasonable price. At the moment it's very expensive, but the drive train and batteries will outlive the car.

Would you? Even at £20 a gallon?

I’m quite left leaning so hearing stuff like this catches my attention especially if it’s not such a radical idea as I avoid going radical

To the point you have to wonder who in “Government” is benefiting from this headlong rush to the EV Nirvana?

@@helipeek2736 those who have shady financial connections to the vc firms who push the ev and esg nonsense

They are concentrating on banning the sale of new ICE cars by 2030 (Another hair brained idea), not existing ICE cars or fuel, they will need to come out and say what their plan is for existing cars/classic cars and the huge industry it supports, because if they turn round and say well we will ban those as well, there'll be uproar. They haven't said much if anything about existing cars, and instead of going down the unworkable route of banning yet more things, they can at least embrace projects like this to keep the classics industry going.

hiya, if you want a car to last forever, then have a look at an Audi A2. Like the polo except the body is made of aluminium and so will not rust.

@@dantheman1337 I'd rather go back to my old off reader go anywhere vehicles...no gadgets...just go everywhere as a ghost really...seems the best way to go.... Audi A2's just wouldn't cut it me thinks!

Porsche are already heavily involved in synthetic fuel development. The Porsche super cup series has been running at least a synth/petrol mixed fuel the last couple of seasons already

@@chrismanns17 Ah see I did not know this. Saw a docu on Porsche a while back and there was no mention of this. They sais they were going to stick with combustion for the next roughly ten years or so. Oh I know conventional cars aren't perfect. But I love them to bits. Its the way we treat out planet in whole. Electrification is not the answer. Stop destroying forests and nature. At least more people get into the know, and this fuel is a great step in the right direction. Anyway, thanks for the info. Nice to know👍

Porsche has a E Fuel plant operating in Chile right now.

Oh crikey, it's nowhere near that much. Price available soon.

I've seen 5 pound a litre

"Neste MY Renewable Diesel" has been sold in Estonia for years now and my dad has been pumping it to his 2020 diesel engine car, he says that it seems to be cleaner than the usual diesel and hasn't had any problems. I own a petrol car, we don't get renewable petrol here, yet.

@Lee Francis A lot of EV’s planned for sale to there aim to offer 300 miles at least because of range anxiety concerns. Comparisons will also appear soon on which EV’s batteries are slower to wear and by now there should be about electricity consumption rate (much like the miles per gallon comparisons)

I think people are too focused on a singular transportation fuel/power source. It will be beneficial for everyone and their needs to have a diverse range power sources.

@@charliecollings2295 i agree , there's always a fixation on standardisation on literally everything.

@@ThomasDoubting5 the whole full focus on EVs is stunting innovation in other alternatives, especially with government carrot and stick incentives.

@@charliecollings2295 Yes, a multiplicity of energy sources

Hydrogen has a massive problem with storage for use. Normally we produce it and use it onsite, mainly by burning fossil fuels. It belittles steel and does not want to travel. The Japanese are fixed with it hoping to produce red hydrogen (nuclear) due to their geographic constraints to produce renewable energy.

Already something out there for garden machinery that is a cleaner burning fuel its known as alkalyte fuel. Can be purchased from most dealerships who sell ASPEN fuels or other equivalents made by Stihl or Husqvarna. Most dealerships will now use this fuel when servicing people's machinery.

Well you can. Aspen synthetic petrol has been available in Britain for decades. It costs around £30 per gallon.....

The World Rally Championship is using these fuels too.

Synthetic fuel was one of the reasons the Messerschmidt BF109 broke every speed record in the early 1930s. Fischer-Tropsch synthesis was in use in the GDR way into the 1970s and Qatar uses it today to make almost all of its fuel. Fossil fuels are cheaper. A lot cheaper!

EV fanatics should now have no room to talk as there are compatible synthetic fuels available. A sensible future is not gunning for a 100% ev revolution and ramming ev advertisment down our throats at every given opportunity but rather a mix including combustible engines. Even hybrid technology is more sensible than relying on 100% electrification and kowtowing to a massive upheaval and bother in building colossal ev charging points and stations worldwide and mindlessly tapping into the main electric supply.

Yes and F1 and Motogp will go in that direction from 25 and 26 with some of the big names behind it...

At what cost? You can buy Aspen synthetic petrol in Britain now. It's been available for decades, and costs around £30 per gallon......

If u can't afford a tesla....how does that rule out cheaper EVs? Sounds? Dear lord.

@@drwhowho I'd consider an electric conversion, and it's not a case of not being able to afford it, it's not being stupid enough to pay way over the odds for a car that will no doubt need a full rebuild in a few years to replace tired battery packs. Also, I really don't fancy joining the queue of cars waiting for the 5 "quick" chargers in Reading services, or any other services for that matter, to get a 1 hour fast charge. It can't be the answer in my eyes. Fair play to the powers that be getting so many people to take the bait just before cracking up electricity costs though!

@@tonythewelshtrucker Battery packs last the life of the car, they don’t wear out.

It’s going to be a lot more than a “few extra quid”! This synthetic fuel will be very expensive. It will be toys only, not regular use.

@@froggy0162 Froggy you have too much to say.

e-fuels are a scam and will never be mainstream. There is simply insufficient feedstock to replace fossil fuels and even as a specialist, niche fuel to keep classic cars going you are talking about £30 to £40 a gallon. Just go electric and get this stinky, toxic shit off our roads and lets clean up our air.

So the cost of petrol and diesel hasn't ever "soared" then?

@@Brian-om2hh Yes they have but only ever as a result of politics not of actual supply issues .

And the racing cars in the Porsche Supercup, Carrera Cup and the Cayman Islands Cup are also running on this fuel

"Grid can't cope"! You are just repeating bullshit mate! That's just another lie created by the power companies in order to limit solar proliferation and it's supported by the fossil fuel industry who want to use coal and gas to generate electricity and petrol in your car!

@@bobmarshall3700 take it you're a few short of 100IQ. I worked at a power company and saw the controls first hand. They were close to limit even a few years ago let alone now. And even more so since cutting back coal and gas generation. 🙈 Solar in this country isn't so great in the winter is it or even the summer a lot of the hours.

F1 is going synthetic fuel, this will obviously give it enormous exposure

@@spice3767 F1 racing is hideously costly. As will be synthetic fuels.....

@Lee Francis Research it more.... Even see the Autotrader look at synthetic fuels. Simple baseline, we need to cut back on burning stuff. No matter what we do to heat our houses, move our trucks or cars. Every person on the planet understands that cigarettes are not good for the person. Why is burning shit good for the planet?

Aspen synthetic petrol has been on sale in the UK for decades, and costs around £30 per gallon.....

There's just the problem of what we do once oil runs dry........

Unless you drive around 100 miles or so to work, there are several EV's which could cover your commute. Your workplace surely must have electricity, unless it's a cave.....

But why?

@@azi9_ity use your brain.

@@lifewithherbthedog6509 i mean, I'm asking because I don't know. I've heard of conspiracies floating around surrounding the EV agenda but I've never had the chance to be enlightened on them. Why do they want to take us off the road? "To control us" is literally one of the most vague explanations one can spit out of their mouth and is also an unintelligent response. How will pushing ICE into obsolescence and shoving EVs into our face get us off the road and why?

Sure they are, at around £20 to £30 a gallon.....

Platci?

I guess you meant plastic. The aviation industry are now doing this converting non recyclable plastic into aviation fuel idea. Can also convert waste plastics into hydrogen by heating it up and introducing a plastic eating microbe into the mix (this is a actual experiment that has been trialled in a desert location)

Imagine if you’d actually watched the video..

@@sunthroughtheblinds I will watch it later. Didn't need to watch it to comment on E10 cheers. Was a statement. Obviously in the video he covers my statement as you say. That's good then. But hey you be you and pedant away. I just auto assume it's going to be a trick like everything else related to climate bullcrap. I will find out like you said when I watch the video. My comment stands if I watch it or not.

@@thistimeimhere No worries, if you think it’s a good look turning up to a discussion that you could be pretty sure has already answered your concern, but then deciding to just state it again anyway just because you like the sound of your own voice, then go for it.

@@sunthroughtheblinds no worries. Hope you feel better now. Who asked for your opinion? Hypocrite much? Maybe take your own advice.

At the moment £20 a gallon (5 litres) which is about right as I work at a garden machinery dealer and we already sell a synthetic alkalyte non ethanol based fuel which is £24 a gallon. The thing is the fuel we sell is a lot more than pump fuel but with the cost of new carburettors and repair labour its still cheaper and can be stored for 5 years in the tank and fuel can, whereas standard E10 unleaded pump fuel has a shelf life of 30 days and Super unleaded E5 fuel has 90 day storage period if stored in a fuel can.

@@bentullett6068 interesting 🤔

A good idea would be to improve the batteries we have now to make them cleaner to produce & improve their energy density. The jump in energy density when we moved to lithium batteries was significant & we could see something similar in the future with another type of battery

I agree - If you find the answers, can you let me know. Mike

And c. Why didn’t they show anyone actually pumping it? None pulled the trigger. I feel a little sceptical.

It's insanely expensive. Taking renewable electricity to create e-fuels and then burning it in engines which have typically 25% efficiency is just nuts. You end up needing around 10 times the electricity than if you just charged an EV instead to go the same distance. E-fuels are just another way to keep the uneducated dependent on large fuel corporations, not to mention the high maintenance costs of ICE engines. With an EV you can make your own fuel yourself and you can charge from any electric source, only BEVs are energy source agnostic while remaining efficient. The only people who think ICE running on e-fuels are a good idea are those with vested interests and those who have never driven an EV...

@@ledsalesoz Yes, I imagine synthetic fuel is insanely expensive but there again, many products are when they are first produced. I imagine with enough demand, prices will come down just like solar panels for example. Many people (myself included) don't view a car as merely an object to get from A to B. It is a piece of history with a unique feel, smell and character. Cruising round country lanes in a Tesla Model 3 just isn't the same as doing it in a classic convertible Mercedes. If it costs me 10 times more to drive my car then so be it - this is how I choose to spend my money. The people I have met who are involved in the creation of synthetic fuels don't come across an uneducated. In fact, quite the opposite. At present, most synthetic fuels are created by small independents run by highly skilled chemical engineers. Using synthetic fuel in an engine doesn't require any additional maintenance - its a direct replacement and indeed you can mix petrol and synthetic fuel together in a fuel tank. I think synthetic fuel is a great idea, and I don't have any vested interest and I have driven an EV. Now.....of course you are overlooking the elephant in the room. 1. The vast majority of EV's are charged by electricity which comes from fossil fuels. 2. It is as efficient to burn fossil fuels directly in a combustion engine as it is to create electricity via a turbine and then transport that electricity over power lines. 3. It's not accurate to say that "With an EV you can charge from any electric source" In certain States in USA there are already restrictions on when you can charge your EV due to the strain on the grid. 4. As for making your own electricity (presumably from solar??)...this may work fine if you live live in a sunny country but you would struggle to charge your EV in winter in much of Europe. Mike