Hey Nick do you fear the unregulated use of Artificial intelligence? Square space may get put out of business before proper regulations to protect people's livelihoods and identities are put in place.
Looks good besides the soldered ram thing. I don't understand why (besides planned obsolescence) companies refuse to add even a single sodimm slot for future upgrades. Annoying, especially from a company like System76 where you'd assume they're more for the user, but apparently not.
I think the two Linux laptop manufacturers whose devices being free from the planned obsolencence are being the LaptopWithLinux and Tuxedo Computers, basically for now.
soldered ram is a no to me. yes with 32 gb upgrading might not be neccesary but if something break you cant fix it easily. i am also not that happy with the barrel plug.
There is 2 real problem with these reviews I would like to point you at 1) You are not anonymized. They take extra care for you. My (german) slimbook executive came preinstalled, but the keys were mapped to spanish. Horrible, unprofesional blunder 2) There is no daily use information. No matter which laptop I picked so far, the system was unstable out of the box. As in store stops loading after closing and opening the lid and sometimes the whole system outright crashes, which did not happen on other hardware/windows. I am really looking for a linux laptop, and trying again and again, but no review I looked at so far even adressed the second issue
Good vid. I've been using a System 76 Pangolin Pang11 for about 6 months and have had zero problems with the daily drive. I had a shipping issue with some storm damage which: 1. A person answered the phone -- huge plus for me. 2. Understood the problem and my replacement was inbound within a day. 3. My only dislike are the speakers. Tinny to my ear. However, I have hearing damage from the Navy, wear hearing aids, so take that with a grain of salt. I fix that issue with earbuds or over the ear headphones -- so in that mode the sound is perfect (again for my not so good ears). Keep up the good work as I look forward to each and every installment always delivered with a sense of humor. L8R
Appreciate your writeup, it's reassuring to know that sys76's on-call support and replacement service is _on point!_ 👍 Speaking of, I'd love to hear about Nick's personal experience with Tuxedo/Slimbook's support services, since he's a long-term owner of several of their devices.
Thank you for this review! I've been hoping for a review of a System76 device and I've had an interest in this device specifically with the recent release.
I have the Oryx Pro 17" and it is solid, no flex. I love it. With a 17" screen I will never go back. With support from Sys76 I have been able to fix any problems. Gaming is awesome! I love Linux as a new convert. POP OS is perfect for New users.
I would have preferred less of the bottom bezel, more RAM options and a dedicated GPU option. Otherwise, it's a solid laptop. I'm looking forward to what System76 provides in the future!
The laptop is listed as an "ultraportable laptop" so I guess integrated graphics is just fine for that purpose. I am on the same page for the rest though.
My laptop only has 500MB of RAM and has been running perfectly fine. (Since I started to boot it about a year ago - any moment the signon prompt will be there ....) 😉 You did tell me to write it in the comments - do i win a prize?
Agreed. I just don't get it at this point. Fine maybe when the OEM they used only supplied bad screens and there weren't options. But how are all these other companies offering 16:10 2k screens and s76 cannot?
@@rolingpingu It doesn’t sound like it but the difference is outstanding. Basically, picture that black chassis bar at the bottom of the display… and turn it into more screen space. You gain A LOT.
Tip: it is a great laptop if you want it to look as generic as possible. The system 76 on to pi a sticker. Just remove it if you want nothing or your own stickers
Very thorough review! I do want to point something out about your desire for a linux laptop with a fingerprint reader: I don't know how it is in France, but in the states, where System76 operates, law enforcement can compel you to unlock a device via fingerprint or face, but CANNOT compel you to provide a password. So just in terms of OPSEC, at least in the US, it's far less secure to use biometric devices for unlocking.
The point of USB-PD is to be able to charge from a power bank, you don’t want to lose a usb-c port because it is always populated for charging. While I agree that 1080p is a bit small, a 1440p screen will draw more power. Besides, you can kind of ~~cheat~~ compromise and display more on the screen by setting the resolution higher with xrandr 🤟 Arch, btw
a full amd laptop, i'm always curious cause most linux devices have a rtx or something nvidia related, guess that some nvidia tools for content creators still necessary.. what is your personal experience with your desktop Nick? what are u running there?
I think for the price that amount of storage should be standard, but at least it's only a $19 upgrade. But I won't complain about the standard 32GB of memory
At 1:32 you stroke the lid which shows quite a bit of lid flex. I feel like you glossed over that bc that's not very good build quality IMO @TheLinuxEXP
Word of caution for assuming that Linux distributions other than Ubuntu and Pop!_OS would be supported OOTB. I found on the HP Dev One that Fedora in particular had issues with non-Intel wifi cards.
Yep. I got so frustrated that I just put the AX210 in everything I own. I noticed that Ubuntu 22.10 also had the same issue with the Dev One's wifi. It might have been a driver regression in the kernel itself, but I'm not techy enough to verify that. I encountered the issue once on Pop OS. I restored from the recovery partition and never had the problem since, so I assume System76 noticed this and pushed out their own patch.
Yet another keyboard with a numpad that is useless. Keyboards need the number pad to be the same spacing as the other keys or it should not be there at all. Data entry is ruined with these new "search and poke" keys.
The mousepad is always centered on the main keyboard (where the hands are) and that does not include the numeric pad, so it seems misplaced, but is not... (visual TOC 😅)
Watching this from my Pang12! Agreed with the webcam, I actually reached out to support, it's so bad I thought it was broken. Trackpad is a little hit or miss as well. Besides that, great device!
2:15 I don't know what kind of Laptop reviews you did or watched in the last few years, but this doesn't look like minimal. It's more alongside much (at least from the angle of view you showed).
Tip: When comparing laptop CPUs you should also mention the TDP of the CPU/GPU as the same CPU/GPU could run at completely different TDP, practicly capping the performance. Tip2: would be nice to show 2 different laptops in paralel on some comparisons, for instance web cams and sound quality.
I'm seeing a trend on laptop keyboards: Either a 60% or a Full-sized... no middle ground. For me, the optimal is 75% either on Laptops or dektops... but mostly laptops. I edit on DaVinci Resolve, so the Del key is a must and, I use the SUper+PgUp/PgDwn to switch between workspaces on GNOME or COSMIC so I need these nav keys to be there.
I wonder where they can get with superlight ARM based laptops. Seeing how far they are with the M1 reverse engineering it should be a walk in the park.
Already good arm procs out there, its better to stay x86 for people who do work. I can't use m1 or 2 at my job just for the very reason you can't use most tools on arm/mac yet. Try to run all the kali tools on m1.....
The power button IS a fingerprint reader. But the manufacturer provides no Linux drivers. I hate when manufacturers do this. You can make the most advanced widget in the world, but if you crap out on the drivers, it's landfill stuffing. At the very least, just open source your drivers, and let the community clean up your mess for you.
For reviews of any kind on Linux when talking about iGPUs; always use gamescope -h 720 -f to compare the 780m and newer generations of iGPUs with the previous ones and advertise the proper way to game on Linux with a lower end iGPU vs proper full size GPUs. There are so many people especially doing the resting on Windows where they dont even notice the negative side of DX12 only allowing borderless-window so that FSR2 and XeSS are required to hit any good FPS numbers. Back in da day lads, with CRTs, we had exclusive fullscreen and flat screens had the issue of long resolution-hand-shaking times. My LG C1 is rather quick. I assume modern gaming monitors are fast too. So no need to complain about but many of the past's issues are still a common myth nowadays sadly.
The PC case and frame is Magnesium alloy not aluminun according to system 76. Very informatve video thanks.... oh... my PC has 4 GB of Ram and it dont run fine. 😂
It's kind of stupid that System 76 don't have a distribution center in India & China. The two countries account for more than 30% population of the world and have a lot of computer enthusiasts.
Imagine buying this, and installing Windows 😂😂 I have cousins and friends who buy cheap linux laptops with celeron processor and then they ask me to install Windows 10 on that. So at least this System76 can run it hahaha
Yet another reasonable laptop ruined by the awful trend started by Apple and perpetuated by Dell; useless arrow keys... We should have the option to be productive again...
isn't centering the track pad based on where the right arm is for right handed people. for myself if the track pad was centered then it would be extra annoying because i rest my palm there and it just enough off center that its easier to go from typing to moving the mouse cursor with out moving my palm too much and losing my point of reference with the keyboard.
It always depends on what you're trying to do with the device. 8GBs of RAM for a laptop for "daily normal use" and on top of that runs Linux instead of Windows... it's gonna be fine. I think of 8GBs today as the lowest standard for people like my mom, or administrative office usage.
8 GB of RAM is more than enough for my Mac mini. Linux is unoptimized and wastes most of its resources. Sorry i had to rub it in. I am joking ofcourse. :)
Wow, 1299$ for a (albeit upper) mid-range is *steep*! A decent mid-range laptop in my book is 800-900 max. Well the problem remains, Linux laptops are all boutique hardware, and we have to pay a _hefty_ premium for them :-(
Yeah, and even more so for people like me outside of the US; same story with buying Tuxedo/Slimbook laptops outside of the EU. 😔 Would be nice if these companies can provide a 'Barebone' option, so that we could at least source our own storage / RAM / wireless cards locally.
@@relsre I did buy my Tuxedo barebones, and I think you can get em barebones from some of the others too. I just deeply regretted it later (just like my purchase of Tuxedo altogether) when the cable for the keyboard backlight snapped at my first attempt of opening the chassis (no, it's NOT easy to do) and the only way to repair it was to pay up to 300€ (of course they blamed it on me) or use sticky tape.
Wait, this is aluminium ? I remember Wendell reviewing the same model yesterday and saying it's magnesium. Also, Shadow of the Tomb Raider is NOT badly optimised, WTF. Demanding and badly optimised are completely different things!
Not centered on the chassis itself: equal distance between each edge of the touchpad and each edge of the chassis. It looks better and feels more intuitive
@@TheLinuxEXP I did another search! Techrepublic and ghacks tells us that the feature is apparently in beta, because GNOME doesn't fully support biometrics yet in Pop OS, but you can still set it up using fprintd to enroll, and pam-auth-update to set it up for login and password prompts. I can't verify that without a Pangolin though.
Great review! Wanted to get a Slimbook at first but live in America so if I had to RMA shipping would cost. After this review considering system76. Not buying till later this year so have time to think. But I tend to be a Debian user so HW support might be bad. Will try Pop in deciding what brand.
Perhaps a framework laptop would be what you need? They just came out with an AMD version and have a 16 inch on the way. A bonus is that it is 100% user serviceable.
@@antoniomromo That looks really cool. A fully modular laptop is like a dream. I hope it becomes big. Would be nice if that setup allows upgrading mobile GPU's as new ones come out..
@@Jacob6853 The company is actually working on a 16 inch version with a graphics card module. So you would be able to swap them out. Unfortunately it is still in the prototype phase.
