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T.Y. Hilton Puts Lamar and Burrow Above Josh Allen | "Josh Allen Doesn't Really Scare Me" 

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@thomasstaples1420
@thomasstaples1420 7 месяцев назад
Didn't Allen knock Lamar out the playoffs and beat him in the regular season..so how is Lamar over allen even statistically josh is way better than Lamar..TY smokin crack.
@sevunscott4015
@sevunscott4015 2 месяца назад
2x mvp fuck boi
@dorothyhunter4656
@dorothyhunter4656 7 месяцев назад
Imo diggs is washed if you have been paying attention last 3 playoff games with 2022 diggs only caught 1 touchdown that was the 13 second game. The one with the Bengals the whole team was trash. This recent game diggs fumbled on the first play. Then he dropped a 65 yard 💣 pass from josh allen. For us to get to super bowl we need one of joe burrow receivers he got 3 then joe mixon he can spare one Damn 😂😊
@Bernard.Daniel
@Bernard.Daniel 7 месяцев назад
People Fail to Acknowledge the fact Lamar being hurt late the last two years is THE REASON Joe Burrow had two deep runs in the Playoffs. Burrow vs Lamar 8-1 Lamar Jackson.
@bjthepoet1
@bjthepoet1 7 месяцев назад
Facts 💯
@RLZ01
@RLZ01 7 месяцев назад
*4-1 but burrow is a better quarterback and id int think they're stoping bengals from 2 afc championship games
@Bernard.Daniel
@Bernard.Daniel 7 месяцев назад
@RLZ01 Burrow obviously isn't. LJ jas done more with less. LJ has more career wins & MVPs. Burrow is beneath Lamar.
@donteerb8789
@donteerb8789 7 месяцев назад
@@RLZ01didn’t the bengals barely beat Baltimore when they had Tyler Huntley starting tho
@ThaFlockers443
@ThaFlockers443 7 месяцев назад
Switch that around big dog. Burrow is 1-8 vs Lamar
@larry2281
@larry2281 7 месяцев назад
Allen is the only one out of the three who can remain healthy. Let alone he has been statistically the best one since 2020. His playoff stats dwarf the Burrow and Lamar as well. Lamar wins MVPs by having a middle of the pack type of season because the media declares him MVP.
@TUTUMAH
@TUTUMAH 7 месяцев назад
lol at middle of the park type season. Such a backwards statement . Lamar gets MVP because he does the most with less to get that #1 seed. The coaching staff( Harbaugh) is just too slow to game plan for the playoffs.
@JalenBrunson558
@JalenBrunson558 7 месяцев назад
@@TUTUMAH more like anytime lamar needs to be a pocket qb he just drops back like 15 yards. Hes easy to gameplan for in the playoffs and the stats dont lie
@frandavis1990
@frandavis1990 7 месяцев назад
​@jalenbrunson558 so is harbaugh because he has 1 sb appearance in 16 years and never had a top 10 offense until Lamar appeared
@zackhurwitz9441
@zackhurwitz9441 7 месяцев назад
​@@frandavis1990the only thing that proves is that he's better in the regular than Joe flacco. Flacco's playoff stats dwarf LJ's, so it's actually way closer than it ever should be based on talent. Lamar has always had top tier o lines, an all pro TE, and a top 5 scoring defense in 5 out of 6 of his seasons. This has resulted in 2 playoff wins (as many as Dak and Baker), and as many turnovers as TDs individually. He's great, but to say he's league's better than Allen or any other QB ranked under Mahomes just because he now has an underserved 2023 MVP is a stretch.
@donizzo30
@donizzo30 7 месяцев назад
@@zackhurwitz9441lmfaoo right so joe flacco and drew brees are “closer then it seems”
@moose_tracks41
@moose_tracks41 7 месяцев назад
Josh Allen is the most prolific scorer in NFL history. He’s the best quarterback in the league - the tape don’t lie. That’s why his name keeps popping up despite not being to the Super Bowl yet. Anybody with eyes can tell that dude is the best in the league. Burrow and Mahomes have had better team play in the playoffs than Allen. Allen in the playoffs has not been the problem. His worst game was against Cincy, which was and is an outlier in his playoff game performances.
@onewinaday7495
@onewinaday7495 7 месяцев назад
Bruh he is not the best qb in the league. This dude Philip Rivers with more stats. Smh
@onewinaday7495
@onewinaday7495 7 месяцев назад
Allen's best games are losses
@moose_tracks41
@moose_tracks41 7 месяцев назад
@@onewinaday7495 Phillip Rivers is an old school pocket QB. Josh Allen can play the pocket or make you pay with his legs. Allen’s put up 4 straight 40+ TD seasons - ridiculous, unparalleled production. Rivers and these other QBs are good to pretty good passers, but Allen’s complete package of arm and legs puts him in a different tier. The MVP snubs are egregious.
@damontalks4283
@damontalks4283 7 месяцев назад
Josh Allen won’t win as a starter he’s a liability and the only top QB that’s not called out on it
@larry2281
@larry2281 7 месяцев назад
Liability? He’s the only one who can remain healthy out of the people listed. He scores more than any of them and by far has superior playoff stats compared to any of them.
@dorothyhunter4656
@dorothyhunter4656 7 месяцев назад
He been getting trashed for this playoff lost just as bad a dax Prescott. They not showing him any mercy
@sethharris1894
@sethharris1894 7 месяцев назад
Having 27 tds to 4 picks in the playoffs is a liability? Josh had 7 tds 0 picks in the playoffs this year, but it’s his fault they lost? He outplayed Mahomes, but the deciding factor was who had the better defense. You’re a casual hater
@dorothyhunter4656
@dorothyhunter4656 7 месяцев назад
@@sethharris1894 they stay hating on allen .u gotta laugh 😂
@dorothyhunter4656
@dorothyhunter4656 7 месяцев назад
@Silencedfixer I love lamar but he didn't get the SAME ENERGY they gave josh allen and dax Prescott after losing in the playoffs. Lamar has a #1 defense and I believe #3 offenses. But they trashed allen when they lost to the chiefs but they put up a bigger fight than the ravens
@Austin.Kilgore
@Austin.Kilgore 7 месяцев назад
Comparing Mahomes to Tom and Peyton is fair imo but it’s too early to start giving Allen and Burrow those Tom & Peyton comparisons.
@donteerb8789
@donteerb8789 7 месяцев назад
I’d compare Josh Allen to rookie Peyton bc them boys will throw a pick
@larry2281
@larry2281 7 месяцев назад
Statistically Allen vs Mahomes is the closest thing we got to Manning vs Brady. Manning didn’t beat Brady till his 9th year in the league anyway. Prior to this years divisional game they were 3-3 against each other with Allen winning 3 of the last 4 at Arrowhead and the loss being the 13 second game. Mahomes leads it 4-3 now but their points scored are equal of each other. By far the best and closest games of the season when they play. Never disappoints and goes down to the wire.
@awill3454
@awill3454 7 месяцев назад
@larry2281 Not to mention the Bills defense is Swiss cheese in the playoffs. If he had Lamar’s defense, the Bills would have gotten to the Super Bowl easily.
@MrEmmanuelmack
@MrEmmanuelmack 7 месяцев назад
@@awill34542 seasons ago they did
@chrischilds368
@chrischilds368 7 месяцев назад
Lamar is the only one with the talent to compete with Mahomes when it comes to all time greatness. If Lamar would’ve won the chip this year he would have been right behind Mahomes in accomplishments.
@dorothyhunter4656
@dorothyhunter4656 7 месяцев назад
Why did lamar freeze up during the afc championship game? This was his chance to beat mahomes
@cloutboibrent212
@cloutboibrent212 7 месяцев назад
Lamar’s a regular season darling
@larry2281
@larry2281 7 месяцев назад
Yeah Lamar throwing into triple coverage for a red zone interception is talent.
@TUTUMAH
@TUTUMAH 7 месяцев назад
@@dorothyhunter4656Lamar didn’t freeze, his coaches were just trash. Plus the man’s best wide receiver is a rookie. He does more with less hence his 2MVP seasons. Give Lamar Kelsey and chase / Higgins and see what he does.
@dorothyhunter4656
@dorothyhunter4656 7 месяцев назад
@@TUTUMAH he was trying to be Payton manning instead of being lamar jackson. The only way he getting a superbowl is he gotta get past mahomes. Lamar has a talented team I have no doubt he will be a champion one day. Allen has a turnover prone problem. He only has stephon Diggs. But he keeps it competitive against mahomes. Makes dumb desperate by the coaching staff that cost them the game. I would love to see mahomes without Kelse. And joe burrow without his 3 elite recievers and Joe Mixon then we can really see who the best is
@davonhall9652
@davonhall9652 7 месяцев назад
Right now, I'm going to say Mahomes vs Allen is that equivalent...for now. No way am I putting Lamar Jackson over Allen. Nope. Now Burrow is the Ben Roethlisberger of this Era. This is why I say that. Brady kept beating Manning in the playoffs at first, winning Superbowls. And I believe Ben won a Superbowl before Peyton won. So, right now, we're in that similar spot with those 3 QBs: Mahomes, Allen and Burrow. Lamar is Phillip Rivers right now. Again, Allen is better than him to me.
@lek116
@lek116 7 месяцев назад
“Allen’s window is closing” … Allen has been in the league for 6 years… he’s only 27 years old 😂 like what. Be so for real right now
@bflobudha2929
@bflobudha2929 7 месяцев назад
Yea TY Hilton is just another Josh Allen hater
@Sleeprr11
@Sleeprr11 7 месяцев назад
Fr Allen just had the worst team he has been on since 2019 and still made the divisionals
@zippymistletoe1272
@zippymistletoe1272 7 месяцев назад
There isn't a world where I would take either of those two over Josh Allen.
@saynomoremedia7463
@saynomoremedia7463 7 месяцев назад
Lamar is better Joe is a debate
@zippymistletoe1272
@zippymistletoe1272 7 месяцев назад
@@saynomoremedia7463 The only thing Lamar has over Josh is speed.
@saynomoremedia7463
@saynomoremedia7463 7 месяцев назад
@@zippymistletoe1272 speed accuracy decision making
@retrocny5625
@retrocny5625 7 месяцев назад
@@saynomoremedia7463 Literally only speed. Lamar's decision making is highly suspect whenever you force him to play as a pocket passer and especially in big games, when he's having to play from behind. We literally just saw it. Bro he threw a pick into triple coverage lol and you wanna talk decision making. Allen's accuracy issues haven't been a real thing since his rookie year. His completion percentage is absolutely fine. Allen goes over Lamar because Allen has consistently played better in the playoffs when compared to Lamar. Burrow and Allen are Mahomes only real competition and they play mahomes the toughest. I mean when you have a #1 defense that's generational arguably, you have your home field, you have John Harbaugh as a coach, you have the league MVP and you score 10 points? Sorry man, hard to look past. Josh Allen had Buffalo in the lead 4 or 5 times in the game, was putting everyone on his back. His defense couldn't stop Mahomes, same way his defense cost him in the 13 second game. Burrow actually beat Mahomes in a big game. So those two > lamar.
@600rush6
@600rush6 7 месяцев назад
​@zippymistletoe1272 and 2 MVP's 😂😂😂
@armanibrown5446
@armanibrown5446 7 месяцев назад
Josh doesn't scare you? Ok ill come back to this vid next season, i love how analysis like to say they aren't afraid of a qb until they are the ones looking right at them from across the field, if herbert, mahomes or Lamar was they wouldn't take josh Allen lightly in the slightest yet this critic does
@ziontheprophet5362
@ziontheprophet5362 7 месяцев назад
CJ stroud and the Texans are the only ones capable considering talent and contracts
@decryptkeeper9704
@decryptkeeper9704 7 месяцев назад
Yeah this a bum take by TY. Allen is a better player than both Jackson and Burrow. Allen has beat Jackson the last 2 matchups and Burrow has beaten Josh once and probably twice if the Hamlin game went to the end but he injured way too much. Availability is too much to ignore.
@frankystrings
@frankystrings 7 месяцев назад
Burrow beat Allen in Buffalo in the playoffs and again in Cincy on Sunday Night this year
@Thebluesky0311
@Thebluesky0311 7 месяцев назад
Brock Purdy over Lamar all day!
@ramseyhamilton6835
@ramseyhamilton6835 7 месяцев назад
Yea yea yea TY 🧢ing on Allen 4 syre
@paulcaruana4090
@paulcaruana4090 7 месяцев назад
Seriously the Bills were fielding a practice squad D.
@daame1
@daame1 7 месяцев назад
when bills had number 1 defense they still lost to KC
@Sleeprr11
@Sleeprr11 7 месяцев назад
Yup #1 D gave up 42 points
@Sleeprr11
@Sleeprr11 7 месяцев назад
Lamar had the best D in the league and they only allowed like 60 yards in the second half and Lamar choked but people will still lie to themselves and say Lamar is a step ahead of Josh
@keithstewart4843
@keithstewart4843 7 месяцев назад
I laugh when i watch podcasts and they say Josh Allen window is closing and he is 26 yo.
@richyd4762
@richyd4762 7 месяцев назад
Not me😂 It's how he plays like his body is made of vibranium that makes me think he won't last super long. Do you think 3 qbs have taken more direct hits? If so which ones?
@som3839
@som3839 7 месяцев назад
His window is closing as far as being anywhere near in comparison to Mahomes, remember the media was saying Allen was better than Mahomes after already having 2 SBs then they tried saying Herbert was his biggest comp then Joe😂 all these QBs windows are closing and they all have a chance win at least 1 SB if Pat himself is out for the season, that’s the only way.
@HybridTheJackal
@HybridTheJackal 7 месяцев назад
Flacco got over the Brady hump…
@TheHawks88
@TheHawks88 7 месяцев назад
Some of y’all trippin. No one is hating on Josh Allen. It’s facts, if Diggs leave Bills gotta try to find a #1 and we all know Gabe Davis ain’t it. That defense is older, James Cook is gonna be up for a contract in 2 seasons as well. That 1st Super Bowl window is closing. They’re not saying it would be completely over, but it would take time for that window to open back up.
@Sleeprr11
@Sleeprr11 7 месяцев назад
I think more people are talking about him saying he “ain’t scared of Josh Allen” and Lamar and Burrow are a step above
@TheHawks88
@TheHawks88 7 месяцев назад
@@Sleeprr11 if that’s the case, this past postseason game against the Chiefs is the example. He’s a game changer who lack game management skills. That 4th quarter against the Chiefs is the prime example. If he hit Diggs underneath on the crossing route, instead of going for the TD on 3rd down…he takes more time off the clock. He’s now working with a fresh set of downs. And you’re not leaving Pat with 1:30 on the clock with 2 timeouts. We’ve seen Pat go get a FG with :13 seconds left…against the Bills. He has to get better at the mental aspect of the position. Understand the situation in its entirety. This is what made Tom the greatest.
@ReeskiiTv
@ReeskiiTv 7 месяцев назад
That pat vs Tom was pat second Super Bowl the year before pat beat the 49ers
@morgansatchell6401
@morgansatchell6401 7 месяцев назад
Joe is so overrated
@DeportillegalAliens
@DeportillegalAliens 7 месяцев назад
Hard to be overrated playing for a trash franchise
@jonec6496
@jonec6496 7 месяцев назад
1 Lamar 19th in passing...hell Cousins had a better year and he didn't even play...lol...Lamar so over rated as a passer.
@zendariuskincaid5205
@zendariuskincaid5205 7 месяцев назад
1:55 EEEEEELLLLLLLIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII 🙄🙄🙄 that was his biggest moments multiple times, horrible
@kenyatta5ttconjohnsoentcr589
@kenyatta5ttconjohnsoentcr589 7 месяцев назад
Joe & pat played in more meaningful games
@TheJaybezel2
@TheJaybezel2 7 месяцев назад
Dude they played each other in one playoff game
@daame1
@daame1 7 месяцев назад
@@TheJaybezel2they played twice in afc chip
@alpharob6959
@alpharob6959 7 месяцев назад
Allen has the most tds in the league since 2020 if his defense played better or was healthy he has 2 SB right now the guy is the most physically opposing qb in the league Jackson is trash and is the most overrated qb in league history
@marchegler3025
@marchegler3025 7 месяцев назад
Why was Lamar Jackson MVP THIS YEAR???
@mbmbeatzent.
@mbmbeatzent. 7 месяцев назад
Bs, you know pat did not get those ravens outta there, keep it real if you gonna podcast, pat didn't even out play Lamar
@JoseColon-ju8fy
@JoseColon-ju8fy 7 месяцев назад
I literally don’t understand the Josh Allen hate …like wtf? Like seriously why even hate on a guy who was told he sucked all his life and wasn’t any good and then became a good Qb by proving everyone wrong? Wow what a world we live in
@daylanm66
@daylanm66 7 месяцев назад
Burrow Lamar ahead of Allen lmao ok mahomes is the only QB that is better than Josh
@Jvision23
@Jvision23 7 месяцев назад
Tom beat mahomes after mahomes win his first Super Bowl.
@Ghutcheson14
@Ghutcheson14 Месяц назад
I bet the 3 all get at least one, maybe more
@3piecevids693
@3piecevids693 7 месяцев назад
Burrow can’t get passed Lamar lol
@DeportillegalAliens
@DeportillegalAliens 7 месяцев назад
That's why your not a gm...lamar is trash
@bigmike-ip8bn
@bigmike-ip8bn 7 месяцев назад
Allen is way better than lamar lmao 🤣
@HeffIncorporated
@HeffIncorporated 7 месяцев назад
josh allen has never beat burrow
@lavoncoleman9285
@lavoncoleman9285 7 месяцев назад
Tim,"Don't save'm" keep'em movin
@kells_3909
@kells_3909 7 месяцев назад
Ngl what has Lamar proven tho, he only has two playoff wins
@donteerb8789
@donteerb8789 7 месяцев назад
Same could be said with a lot of qbs the media praises
@i_hate_simps_2608
@i_hate_simps_2608 7 месяцев назад
yall kill me with this shit , actual players in the nfl knows what it is with lamar but yall be in comments saying the same dumbshit lol . we all know lamar played mid in that afc game but don't act like coach harbaugh watched for the second time in the playoffs them not run the damn ball , the rbs had 6 carries .
@larry2281
@larry2281 7 месяцев назад
@@i_hate_simps_26089 TDs 6 ints 75 passer rating in the playoffs 2-4 record He’s just a regular season demon who wins MVPs by having a mid season.
@dorothyhunter4656
@dorothyhunter4656 7 месяцев назад
That mvp should go to the ravens defense. 😅😊😂 dax Prescott and josh allen had better stats then lamar but they want to set an example that the NFL isn't biased 😂😅😊😊
@TUTUMAH
@TUTUMAH 7 месяцев назад
Yall do realize Kanar has played less playoff games due to injuries and having 2 bye weeks for the playoffs right? Josh Allen’s playoffs stats are inflated wild-card games do to self inflicted horrible in season play.
@rc_yola41500
@rc_yola41500 7 месяцев назад
Lamar Jackson a running back
@joeymiddleton5821
@joeymiddleton5821 7 месяцев назад
does t.y. scare anyone???
@Wendy-yo3ys
@Wendy-yo3ys 7 месяцев назад
Flacco got passed tom
@makethemXearnit1
@makethemXearnit1 7 месяцев назад
So much cap in this.
@jcZo23
@jcZo23 7 месяцев назад
LamarRB is a bottom of the barrel passer & is nowhere close to Allens level, neither is the injury prone statue Burrow who is carried by his WRs which he exactly what Browning showed us, nobody carries his team in football like Allen & Theirs nobody more physically gifted or talented than Allen, nobody, Mahomes was just lucky to land with Reid but saying LamarRB is better than Allen is a Joke
@regice5650
@regice5650 7 месяцев назад
Lamar shaky when it counts the most. I’m taking everyone over Lamar in the playoffs.
@chriswright6007
@chriswright6007 7 месяцев назад
In order of who worries chiefs...allen, burrow...end of list...and neither are 15
@arsenioward217
@arsenioward217 7 месяцев назад
Lamar is not better than joe nor josh he can't even throw a deep ball josh is a beast running and throwing when he needs to be!!
@paulcaruana4090
@paulcaruana4090 7 месяцев назад
Allen over Burrow for durability. Burrow great but you can't be great if you are hurt
@He_sees_all
@He_sees_all 7 месяцев назад
T.Y didn’t even want to play with Lamar
@quand532
@quand532 7 месяцев назад
Mahomes is a different breed. Josh Allen might get the nod over Burrow for me just based off of his scrambling abilities. Burrow has had Chase and Higgins as a crutch.
@donteerb8789
@donteerb8789 7 месяцев назад
Allen has had Stefon diggs and a way better defense
@quand532
@quand532 7 месяцев назад
@@donteerb8789 Diggs is only one person . Tee is about to get paid top dollar this offseason. Gabe Davis is not
@larry2281
@larry2281 7 месяцев назад
@@donteerb8789Burrow has the best WR core in football lol.
@keymold4405
@keymold4405 7 месяцев назад
@@larry2281you been riding Allen meat this entire comment section. Josh Allen has had a top 10 receiver for most of his career Foh bozo
@larry2281
@larry2281 7 месяцев назад
@@keymold4405 so one top receiver is equivalent to the best WR core in football?
@bigsayso
@bigsayso 7 месяцев назад
The bills are a team you always thinks has a chance but these other quarterbacks and teams are expected to win
@orphy6869
@orphy6869 7 месяцев назад
Its Allen and Mahomes and then everyone else and other talk is nonsense
@DramaNovelas
@DramaNovelas 7 месяцев назад
don't put mahomes and allen in the same sentence please. it's MAHOMES and then the others. period. until allen win a superbowl AND league MVP, then we can have a discussion maybe
@orphy6869
@orphy6869 7 месяцев назад
@@DramaNovelas WINNING A “SUPER BOWL” is a TEAM ACCOLADE….and how many MVP does Josh need to get screwed out of???? He was the best QB this year and has been for a few years
@DramaNovelas
@DramaNovelas 7 месяцев назад
@@orphy6869 you compare him with a guy (Mahomes) who can potentially dethrone Tom Brady. he doesn't even have an league MVP for him while Lamar already has two. And even the individual achievements: All-pro, pro bowl, it is obvious that there is a galaxy between the two for the moment. we will see in the future but for now Mahomes is all alone
@orphy6869
@orphy6869 7 месяцев назад
@@DramaNovelas again super bowls are a team accomplishment…and that MVP is handed out by national media idiots (many of who have never played football) Allen should have been MVP this year
@devinanderson7968
@devinanderson7968 7 месяцев назад
I miss T.Y. he was a dawg 🔥 much respect to him still to this day, fire episode 🔥 maybe interview Luck at some point? 👀
@oohgeesilk6634
@oohgeesilk6634 7 месяцев назад
Sign him up for one more season
@STEALTTH7
@STEALTTH7 7 месяцев назад
Allen is the most talented player in the league. He is a one man wrecking crew with a skill set that no other player has. He's not the most successful, which is unfortunate so I get why he's not the "greatest"...but he is. Over the past 4 years, he's averaging 5000 total yards and 44 TD per season, while accounting for the highest percentage of his teams scores at 80%. No team has scored more than the Bills over the past 4 years. And he's the only NFL player to ever have 4 consecutive 40 TD seasons. #1 in total TD and just few yards back from #1 yards. We all know about the turnovers, but he's so good that he more than makes up for them and isn't turning the ball over when the game is on the line. Playoff stats, he's averaging 328 yards per game, and has 26TD and 4 Int in 10 games with a passer rating of 100. 13 seconds cost him a championship and that was on the coaching and their failure to close the game. Injuries on defense sunk the ship this year. There's a video out there discussing why Allen should have been MVP over Jackson this season which is really irrefutable. Worth the watch for those who don't actually watch him play.
@zacharyhildenbrand6666
@zacharyhildenbrand6666 7 месяцев назад
Im taking lamar over all 3
@CokeJilesMacLeod
@CokeJilesMacLeod 7 месяцев назад
🫡💯🏹🪶🏹🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@Ghostintthemachine
@Ghostintthemachine 7 месяцев назад
Ty Hilton hasn’t won shit in life lmao. He was a mediocre receiver who didn’t make a difference on his teams. Everyone with a camera thinks they are experts nowadays.
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