Put a thin kerf 7.25" Diablo blade on the Ridged and it will rip dimensional lumber as fast as you can push it through. Also, much quieter and smoother. It also works great for jobsite finishing cuts. Sure, you will occasionally need to change the blade if you need more depth than 2ish", but you need to do the same (even more often) with ripping or finishing 10" blades. The 7.25 thin kerf is much more versatile for typical jobsite work and totally outperforms in ripping duties and is as good or better with finishing cuts, unless you buy expensive finishing blades. Not to mention the price difference and far less strain on the motor and bearings. Jobsite saws don't have ridged enough bearings (and everything else) to take advantage of an expensive, heavy 10" finishing blade. Thus in most cases a new cheaper 7.25" Diablo will have far less blade wobble (than a heavy 10" blade) and even outperform with finishing cuts on jobsite saws. The DeWalt fence will go out of square too if it gets bumped. Any jobsite saw fence will get knocked out of line if dummies slam a 4x8 sheet of plywood (or anything heavy) against the fence like a battling ram. The only time my Ridged fence got out of square was when butchers at work were using it.
@@AMAYERICAN Usually a regular 24 tooth framing blade because it works great for most everything. Only if I need a super clean finishing cut will I put on a 40 tooth Diablo blade. The 2 pack Diablo blades often go on sale for about $13 ($6.50per blade), so it's not worth using cheap blades. Try it. You will never go back to noisy and expensive 10" blades. The 7 1/4" Diablos cut like butter. The depth of cut likely will vary on different saws, but on Ridge you get over 2", which is enough for most jobsite cuts.
I was having trouble raising the blade on my Ridgid, I ended up putting the whole saw upside down on my bench and giving it a thorough cleaning. I then put some 3 in 1 oil on the worm gears that raise and lower the blade. Worked fine after that.
I have the same saw, an R-4513. Everything that is stated in this video is spot on. I’ve had mine for about the same amount of time. The Achilles heal of this saw is the blade height adjustment. It just never has worked properly. There is work arounds but you shouldn’t have to. Plus, the saw constantly needs tuned for fine woodworking. Great video!
Thanks for taking the time to comment ! Yeah it’s a good starter saw I would say for the price point ! Like you said hard to keep tuned for finish work ! Keep 🔨 bro!
Awesome thanks. I'm glad you took the time to make this. It answered all my questions. Now I don't have to buy a saw I won't be satisfied with. Super helpful.
@@drewd423 Just type it into youtube and you'll find various review videos that outline all the pros/cons of it, including the rip capacity adaptability.
Hello. I have had a Ridged 4513 for 8 years now and I am a contractor. I put a 24 tooth Diablo combo blade on it and never had a issue with power. Much more table room, great fence and very portable and lightweight. I also own the Bosch portable but always go back to my Ridged for the ease of use. Thank You
I've had the Ridgid since 2010 and have used it for a lot of projects, furniture and construction. The Dewalt I've been using on-site for 5 years, reno/construction. Take the Ridgid in for repair and they'll replace the entire saw free - lifetime warranty works well. The new 4514 (which you'll get in replacement of this one) moves a lot easier and is lower priced - mainly because it has less plastic and you have to assemble it from the smallest pieces. The riving knife and blade guard on the Ridgid is 100x better than on the Dewalt. The Dewalt fence is 100x better than the Ridgid. The older Dewalt is nicer than the one you have, IMO. Putting a dado in a Dewalt is a little silly, IMO. It's a contractor saw and excels at that.
i had the same problem for raising and lowering the blade. For me it was an easy fix. There is an "E" clip at the end of the shaft that i had to replace. It keeps the gear tight against the one on the motor. After i replaced the clip it worked like a hot dam.
Well son of a gun, sounds like maybe I could fix it, where did you get those replacements parts? and what would the term for that part be? E Clip? Thanks for sharing that brother!
@@AMAYERICAN some call it a "C" clip but It looks more like an "E". Any automotive place will carry it. If you look up the manual for the saw on "manual lib" it shows an exploded view of the shaft and the clip. Good luck
I haven't tried the dewalt, but I found the rigid plenty powerful. I've resawn lumber with it, I've used a 3/4 inch dado stack on the rigid with no issues. I know it's personal preference.
@@AMAYERICAN the R4513 can use a dado but limit is 6” diameter. I have one and it works fine. I agree with your assessment of the blade raising mechanism. You have to keep it clean to work well. I like my ridged and the lifetime service.
Dado stack tends to be 13/16" max. DWE7491rs does that. I've run it, just need to feed it slowly (I dadoed 2x4s). Dado was the must-have item for me. 3HP motor. 15A.
@@LBCAndrew Checking the math, 120v x 20 amps = 2.4Kw. So 2400/746 (1 HP) = 3.217 HP. Yes, a 3 HP motor is possible for a 120 volt circuit. Keep in mind that no motor is 100% efficient, but how much, I don't know. Using 30 amp single pole breaker on 10 gauge wire, and loading the breaker to no more than 80% which is a recommended level, you'd get 24 amps x 120 volts = 2880 watts/746 (1 HP) = 3.86 HP. Assuming only 80% efficiency of a motor, which is awful, I'm still at 3.088 HP on the output side. Work more on math and knowledge.
Great video - It's nice to see someone compare two products who actually has used them. I'm leaning towards the Dewalt setup (my old tablesaw is a pain in the a$$).
I bought that Ridgid model close to 10 years ago, I am surprised yours looks identical to mine conidering how long ago I bought mine. I have been frustrated with mine as it goes out of square so easily and quickly. I will give it credit for still running strong though, even with dado packs. Ultimately, the rule of buying long term quality over price still rings true.
I had that ridgid saw for years and thought it was fine for my homeowner use. Sold it because I bought a cabinet saw. Few years later realized I need a job site saw for a big project. Went and bought the newer ridgid from Home Depot cause it was on sale. What a turd. They went cheap on everything. Fence storage is a joke with rubber bungee straps, doesn’t hold its angle, depth crank is worse than what you described, just awful. Going to sell it and buy dewalt or
i just got the ridgid table saw , its around 600 on sale for 394 currently is it good? should i keep it? i havn't used it but i want to return cause that dewalt looks cool
Man that’s a really good price on the rigid. I would say it’s more of a homeowner grade saw though and the dewalt is contractor grade. I think you would be happy with either one though. The Dewalt is going to last ya longer though.
Same exact part on the blade height knob broke on my ridgid. Ended up paying to have it fixed. Also agree about it not having enough power. Bought the new model a few months ago, now instead of the blade height knob, the fence won’t stay locked. You’ve convinced me I need to exchange it for the dewalt
Thank you very much for the very useful video. I have a Hitachi C10FL that has given very good service for more than 15 years, but it is getting older and I can no longer get replacement parts for it. Plus, it is big and somewhat difficult to store and move around my carport. I was looking into a replacement and was attracted to the DeWalt (I have excellent success with DeWalt tools) but then I saw an add on Home Depot that offered at combination of a Ridgid table saw with a Ridgid compound mitre saw and mitre saw stand for only slightly more than the DeWalt table saw by itself. Bright shiny object there! I don't really need a new mitre saw, but it was an very attractive deal. However, after watching your video and seeing that the Ridgid would be less satisfactory as a replacement for my Hitachi, I think I am going to go with the DeWalt. Thanks again and keep up the good work.
The difference between 13 amp to 15 amp is huge when cutting hard wood.I have found that 13 amp bogs down on heavier wood which results in burn marks.Rack and Pinion is far superior where fence movement and accuracy of cuts is concerned.
Wish I saw this a week ago before getting the rigid. I opted for the rigid because it came with the stand and didn’t need to spend and extra $200+ on a dewalt stand. I have dewalt everything else they make.
I've purchased the Dewalt saw plus a free stand on a deal for £450 🇬🇧 . Pricey by 🇺🇸 standards . Easy to set up , excellent tool storage and easily transported . Can't fault it . 3 year warranty .
Not pricey considering the current exchange rate. $553 at today's rate. Currently $549 here. The Rigid is $600, but Home Depot is also selling two for $600... which is interesting. Do I need two? Or would one DeWalt be better.
I personally would recommend DeWalt but only one man’s experience. I just love the rack and pinion fence, the power, the fit and finish is much better overall on the dewalt.
No you can't plug it in but I'm hoping they'll come out with an adapter soon like they did for the flexvolt miter saw. I haven't had to use it a lot at once yet, so a couple 8ah batteries has been more than enough. It's super quiet and the rack and pinion fence is awesome!
Yeah I love the Dewalt, a lot more power than my ridgid and the fence is money no second guessing/ constant checking it’s square. Did you have to adjust your riving knife ?
I just had a shocking encounter with a Ridgid saw. OK, it was at a pawn shop but it was still wrapped in shrink wrap and the manual was still in a plastic bag. But, what a mess this thing was. Loads of plastic. The gears for the saw blade and tilt were big crude plastic that wouldn't turn. When I finally got the thing too .45 degrees it was way off from the tape. If you adjusted the extention table and locked it, it still moved. Again, this was at a pawn shop for some reason. So, I saw a DW 745 this afternoon. I drove a pretty long way to get it. I'm sure I'm going to like it. Oh, yes, the Ridgid does have a 1 3/8" arbor so you can install a dado blade. That's what inspired my hunt. But, the heck with it, there's a couple of other ways to make dados.
Im just buy a house where we live at the moment. I have some DeWalt tools and looking do buy a saw and I think that DeWalt is the one to buy. Thanks and cool cars as well!
I think it’s not a fair to compare a well used, older saw to a new one. Updates are made every year and the motor will wear after contracting for a few years.
don’t know how you lasted five years with that ridgid. i had the r4514 and it was a piece of crap. got the dewalt, so far so good. your review should definitely direct people towards the DeWalt. it’s worth it.
Thanks Ryan Reynolds! lol I have a Craftsman table saw and hate it so I wanted to upgrade since I've become a more serious wood worker. I have a lot of Dewalt stuff so I guess I'll keep adding to the collection. Great to the point video.
I was totally thinking Ryan Reynolds as well lol. @amayerican - Not sure if you figured it out but the sheet capacity is like ~37" - the fence can be moved to the rear cams to increase it.
@projectguyprojectguy9019 Ryan Reynolds’s is a funny sob, and he does look like me haha. And thanks for the info ! I don’t know how I missed that! Do you have an out feed stand for your table saw? That’s the next thing I want to buy !
@@AMAYERICAN YT seems to have blocked my reply. There are vids which show the fence (which I previously linked) as well as some home-built outfeed tables (which I also linked).
Had a 15 amp Dewalt with 10" blade for I think about 5 or 6 years. Performance was spot on. I gave it to me brother and want (NEED) to buy another so doing my homework cause I'm just a weekend worrier think they call it (ha ha) but when I use it I want it to work and want to feel safe... that in mind and with prices soring, wondering the difference between the 10" blade and 8 1/4 in besides the price? Is is the power? Does it run slower? Does it sound softer? Or is it just the size of wood you can cut easily if it is with a 10" blade. Maybe it is just the smaller blade that makes that saw so much less - like half! Can you tell me cause I've looked at many other brands and they all look very cheesy with plastic and aluminum vs steel. Even bad reviews on most.. like Hercules and Craftsman not the same quality as years ago. I need another opinion from someone who knows cause they have experience. Can you help cause I trust DeWalt from experience! Thanks
I am no expert but I think when it comes to table saw it’s worth the investment. I absolutely love my dewalt and feel it is much safer than the ridgid due to the fence design. A big factor to think about is your end use? Is it wood working where you will be cutting dado’s/ joinery ? If so dewalt or higher. If you are doing diy home projects and rarely use then maybe a lesser saw is okay. Saw stop came out with a contractor saw that may be a good option if safety is a priority. Thanks for watching let me know on what you end up going with!
That’s a good question which I am no expert but I would guess you can’t run a dado stack in the 8 1/4 and the depth of cut at a 45 would be less. So depending on use, if you plan on miter folding for beams/ columns/ floating shelves you may want to check what the capacity is on the 8 compared to 10.
Just picked up a used ridgid 4514 and Iʻve got issues with it. Itʻs a struggle to get the blade square at 90 degrees, the motor is literally pushing up on the underside of the table at that point. Then to bring the blade to 45 degrees, you have to go past the 45 degree mark… meaning that any angle between 0 and 45 is going to be inaccurate. My first experience with jobsite tablesaws, not sure if this is normal or a lemon.
These are both cheap saws. You won't get great accuracy from them without a lot of adjustment. And even then I always measure with mine when I need accuracy. I ha d the same issue on my R4514 with the blade being just under 90° from table top when set to zero. You can raise the table slightly with some washers between the top and the base to provide extra clearance.
I believe the new Ridgid is better than the new DeWalt. I do have this DeWalt and it does have great power but it is the little things that to me put it in second place. Good vid.
I've had the rigid like that since hurricane sandy when I started woodworking/carpentry ( i am not a carpenter though) and it's still crankin away.. I use it mainly for dado stack... I've never even looked to the manual to see if dados are a no no😂😂😳. I have had a version of that dewalt or the same one idk since I built the paulk total station which it attaches too and also that same dewalt saw and stand a client gave me because he was in too deep he said..
Haha I seriously doubt your a hack if your running festool. You have a tracksaw?! If so how do you like it? I need to add a tracksaw to my arsenal just haven’t been able to decide
@@AMAYERICAN The tracksaw is a game changer. The cuts are so high quality and you can do things unthought of prior to owning one. Trimming doors while hanging is one of my favorites .... I'm not a salesman but, don't let the guys that spend there days badmouthing festool stop you from buying one. The dust collection is unmatched as well as the cuts. I think I forgot to sub your channel last time... i was gonna poke around Also just got the newer rigid back from keystone tool repair.. the threads are tearing up the aluminum housing or whatever and thats why it keeps getting stuck at full height.. Never ends...
My Ridgid stopped working after six to seven years of occasional use. I liked the saw until it died. I agree that the motor is underpowered. I’m replacing it with the DeWalt. Hopefully, the motor will last longer.
I have used my Riged for 4years never failed in my shop. First thing never let anyone use my tools did it once had someone ruin my drum sander $2200 down the drain
I have to rigid table saw and it works great for me but not a heavy duty machine at all. If this will be used multiple times a month on dense material definitely go DEWALT. The rigid will bind down on a 2x4
Great video. I have the Ridgid now and have had many of the same issues as you. I've been trying to find a new one and am leaning towards DeWalt. In my case I'm working out of a garage so dust collection is a big thing. I know jobsite saws are never going to be great but the rigid is REALLY bad. How is DeWalt?
I have a brand new ridg🎉id table saw and it came not square to 90 degrees. Nothing I can do can get it plumb to 90. The adjustment is supposed to be an allen bolt, it's not. Can't use it out of the box new. Gonna get that Dewalt.
I think the make a cordless option but i dont know if i would buy a cordless table saw. I recently burned up my milwaukee rear handle saw. Jumped ship and went with the makita, and I am blown away absolutely love it. You run exclusively red tools? I have ventured into dewalt table saw/ mitre saw and now makita. I am a big milwaukee fan though.
Going to pick up the Ridgid for $200 on Craigslist tmrw. I think based on your comments this would be decent for me as a beginner hobby woodworker I was borrowing a buddies gen 1 Dewalt but it doesn’t have a splitter and only rips to 18”
@@AMAYERICAN I picked up the saw this morning and made 5 drawers I love the rip capacity of 27" I was also able to get the blade within 0.005" of accuracy measure using calipers I agree the movable table is kinda janky but I was able to press against it while tightening to get it accurate. same with the fence 😬😬😬
@@AMAYERICAN I'm starting out with a dresser 🙂 I designed it in Autodesk Fusuon 360 lesson learned though.. don't follow a cut list as a beginner! use relative measurements
That’s awesome brother nice work👍, this winter I hope to have some time to do some wood working as well. Keep hammering brother keep me posted on your project !
You do have to spend some time setting the saw up... blade, fence, etc. But once done, the saw is great. Fairly compact which is Nice ru-vid.comUgkxXh-4_3-ZT1fFWP91ZV7iVqzElr0lEb-a I did get an Incra Miter Gauge which takes some setup as well. The stock miter gauge can be adjusted in the miter slot with a little painter's tape... this tightens up the side to side play a lot.
@@AMAYERICAN you bet … I was just at homedepot pricing them … ridged finally stepped up there game … they have a really nice scissor lift with wheels and handle grip it’s really nice for moving around …. The dewalt is not near as nice when it comes to the stand … but it is a very good table saw
Good to know, I loved the stand on my ridgid as well, dewalt on isn’t bad, but not as slick. Dewalt is just heavy duty compared to the ridgid which is to be expected. Do you run an out feed table ?
@@AMAYERICAN I just got the Rigid 4514 about a week ago. I don't have enough experience with it to say how it compares to others, but I'm loving the Rigid so far. It was between a Dewalt and the Rigid for me, and for $399 on sale and it includes the awesome stand, I found the Rigid was the best price-to-features for me. I don't think I've ever heard anything negative about a Dewalt table saw, but it was more expensive and as a part-time hobbyist I felt satisfied with the Rigid (and the lifetime warranty).
I had that Dewalt but the crank broke on mine and I couldnt fit many dado blades on it and I just bought the Rigid to replace it and now after wayching this I am thinking of returning but I threw away the box
I will check for you but Ridgid saw is 6 years old so maybe they resolved issues. I personally would recommend the dewalt saw over the ridgid. How old was ur dewalt saw ?
@@AMAYERICAN 3 yrs old but I dont remember the model number. I was surprised that the handle just ripped right off while trying to adjust the blade up and down tgat was stuck
