I really miss watching Wil playing board games with friends. Wish he would do streams in the future of him playing games he enjoys with friends occasionally.
I work as a nurse, when I was at a Dementia/psych hospital working the NOC shift (Graveyard), it would be my last night on before a two day break. I SO wished I have a one quiet night card to play so I could go home and relax with my fig newtons and scotch. Never worked. In a hospital you never say "Wow it is quiet tonight." In Pandemic you never say "It looks like we might just win this one". Also BTW nurses and doctors LOVE this game.
I love Table Top. Even though I haven't seen any recent videos, I have purchased so many board games because of this. It's a great way to see if I want to buy it. See the game play in a fun but educational manner. I have even avoiding buying a few games. I find it way more helpful then most written reviews.
Played this game last week. First player did his actions and then drew his cards. In that action he set off the epidemic, which caused EIGHT OUTBREAKS in one go. Game ended after just one player moved...
lonelongboarder27 We did. It was just the weird luck of the draws for the epidemic being right near the top of its section and cities with 3 bricks all being near each other. So the infected city count was small, we got the epidemic card early (3 cards in out of I think 15 for the section it was shuffled into) and the cities were all tightly bunched up for the triple spots. So, outbreaks galore.
Incorrect, depending on how many epidemics you are playing with, you divide the player stack into equal parts and at least for the stack on top you play the epidemic on the bottom of that stack. Sounds like someone shuffled after the fact.
lonelongboarder27 That must be a rule from the new edition. The version I have says "9. Shuffle an Epidemic card into each pile. Stack the piles on top of each other to form the Player Draw Pile." You'll note that it doesn't specify to put the epidemic at the bottom of the first stack.
My experience is that it is important to manage the cards you receive. At some point as soon as you can (sometimes even at the start) you need to get an idea of who is saving what color. If you don't you just end up going through all the cards and losing. The goal is to get 5 of each color in a hand and submit them at a research center. You definitely need to manage the infections/outbreaks, but only because if you don't they will get out of hand, and you will either lose because the infections/outbreaks got out of hand, or you will spend all your time/cards chasing the infections/outbreaks and not getting your cures together. As long as you get your cures submitted, it doesn't matter the state of the spreading diseases. You win by submitting the cures period. The point is that controlling infections/outbreaks is a secondary goal only to the extent that it furthers the goal of gathering and submitting the cures (5 of same color in a hand) at the research station. If you make controlling infections/outbreaks primary you will likely lose.
I have this game and the "State of Emergency" expansion, my group of tabletop friends have not yet been able to score a victory. The expansion's addition of a "super bug" makes this game both, much more difficult and much more realistic in these covid-19 times. Despite the eventual losses, we are more determined than ever to replay this game and "save humanity".
Erica Robertson why are people so afraid to use the term boyfriend or girlfriend or wife or husband? Partner sounds like someone is trapped in the friend zone.
This was a nice mix of people playing this game! I just recently learned about this game and me and some friends had our first attempt at it last weekend. Now that I understand how the game works, I gotta say I got all tense just by watching this video. Pandemic is truly infectious!
I actually just recently picked up this game and Gloom (Cthulhu version) after watching you guys play on Tabletop. Pandemic has quickly become my favorite tabletop game. Me and two of my friends beat the game on Legendary level! Which is now called Heroic. Luckily, the Epidemic cards were spread out enough to where we had only one outbreak throughout the game. Medic, Quarantine Specialist, and Dispatcher were our roles.
Bought this for a family Christmas present.. we have played this around 10 times now and are still looking for that first win. Extremely fun and difficult.
This extended version was actually extremely helpful to me understanding how to play the game, which I now REALLY want to play, looks so awesome and fun. Thank you so much for TableTop, and especially these long versions!
It's estimated that March Madness will cause a productivity loss of ~$67-200 million this year. These three extended TableTop videos - if all viewed back-to-back-to-back during paid work hours - should add roughly $2-5.6 million to that (math can be provided upon request). Maybe they'll talk about us if there's another sequester.
Question. I just watched the short video of this, and I'm hoping it's in this video. I noticed that there are game pieces in Greenland. Why? I was hoping I'd see Will setting up the game, and therefore get my answer; but no.
Bought pandemic mostly on recommendation from watching Table Top and a few other reviews. Wil Weaton thank you very much for being a great representative for king nerds everywhere.
I have added something to my bucket list today. To play a game with Will Wheaton. A great game master and an awesome role model for all Gamers. Thank you Mr. Wheaton!
I just attended marcocon and when playing settlers of catan, lords of waterdeep, and forbidden island/desert all I could was how do we reach out to wil and get him here
Extended Edition Table Top is BEST Table Top! Sure, the shorter versions are easier for some to watch due to the shorter runtimes, but these are so much more fun to watch! They're worth it! More like these, please!
I love these extended versions. Takes a bit longer to watch since I watch them while I eat dinner or lunch. Since youtube saves my place in the video, I really like these extended releases. Thank you G&S and Wil and the Table Top crew.
YES! More please! I say that every episode going forward should have the edited version and the full version available! And releasing all of the old ones too...
Watching this today sick and getting a you-know-what test tomorrow (if anybody sees this ever yes I'm vaccinated) really brightened my day. All the commentary about masks and sanitizer in particular. :)
I think the most difficult and awkward set of things I've juggled was a tennis ball, a basketball and a paper tissue. I've never juggled burning torches or anything like that, though. Also, I've only ever been able to juggle up to 5 objects and with more than 3 they all needed to be nearly identical hand-sized objects. I have juggled rings and batons but learning was a bit tricky: I had to learn how to spin/flip them correctly. I am a proud owner of 3 sets of 3 juggling bags that I made myself. :D Yay, I'm... a clown? ;)
MonkeyShaman Thank you for existing - I knew you were here. I played/saw this for the first time and it was the first thing I said. We are never alone. We are the collective of Madagascar.
I just discovered tabletop and I love watching these. I just bought ticket to ride and love it. After watching this I think this will be the next game purchase.
Whenever you [Wil] say "but we did that ahead of time because you don't want to watch that," referring to the game set-up, I almost cry... I know I am not the only one who does want to see that. I would love seeing all of those set-ups, planning, etc.. I think it would be really fascinating to see that done for Fiasco
YES! I watched EVERY tabletop in 2 days, I tried out the other things, but it wasnt my bag baby. But i'm happy to support the channel as a whole, as long as it gives me moar tabletop!
Why on earth did you not stack the infection deck when you drew an epidemic at 32:23? You would've been able to avoid the Chennai, Kolkata, Chennai outbreak and given you a chance to cut down the disease in the area before the cards come up.
This is definitely one of my fave episodes, not only cause of our wonderful host, but Ms Webb, whom I have been a fan of since the spring of '02 when I accidentally discovered X-Play and Screen Savers. I have often chuckled and admired at our stoic hosts who wade into the plague infested auditoriums and convention centers year after year, and show up to work to edit and rehost while they are sick. Hats off to all of you who come out to see the fans, and get hideously sick for it. Thank you.
After a long crappy work-week, I was kinda anxious to see what Extended Tabletop would be up next. Pandemic Extended Edition was the perfect way to start my time off. :) Thank you for making my Thursday awesome GeekandSundry.
Out of all the table tops there is now, I wish to see another round of Pandemic. This was so enjoyable to watch that I'm already thinking of people to play it with.
Also, love the long versions. I've seen the short versions, so these are great to have on in the background, while playing video games. Castle Panic and Small World were great to have on while playing Empire: Total War. So thanks, and I hope the censored/uncensored idea helps.
A friend recently brought a copy of this after I was raving about it for years. All his dishes are named after the variants...and AIDs. Because there's always AIDs.
The Pandemic version that they are playing is out of print (but there's a lot of ppl selling it on e-bay). You can also buy the new "Pandemic 2013" that was just released.. basically it's the same game with a new design (and a few more role cards) you can find those at Cool Stuff Inc or Miniature Market.
45:15 I feel like that's a conversation that could have happened with the president. "If we let people die... we lose." Wish Wil was there to tell our gov't. that.
Black: Black Plague (for no particular reason..) Yellow: Yellow Fever (obviously) Red: Zombies (because blood is red and zombies cause a lot of blood) Blue: swine Flu (because it kinda acts like a cold and because you turn kinda blue when your cold) Logical
When i bought this game at "Source Comics and games. One of the people working there told me he sold a copy to one of the members of the United Nations Disease council. When they meet annually they start by playing games to get to know each other. I had then commented that beating the game should be a requirement or get booted from the council.
you win epidemic by CURING all diseases. Not eradicating. The game only has about 22 turns total, eradicating all 4 diseases in that time would be pretty much impossible.
It's far from impossible. But you have to be focused on a curing strategy _from the very first turn._ Our heroes got _way_ too caught up in treating infections, to the point where they pulled every cube off of cities they were in (and I'm not talking about Morgan's Medic, here). They also failed to use some critical resources - like looking at the discard pile (which is allowed) to "count" what cities were likely to outbreak and which ones _absolutely could not_ until the next Epidemic. Three of the Roles were non-curative: Medic is a Treatment Role; Researcher _gives_ away cards, which speeds other player's cures, but doesn't help with his own; and Dispatcher is a Support Role with no special ability to cure disease. So they had to be _extra_ careful to not fall behind on cures. Researcher needed to stick to Scientist like glue and feed cards _every single turn._ Scientist could have had two cures by the time Wil and friends had one. Also, I felt that there were a few rules subtleties here that were off. Wil seemed to be of the opinion that you can only _give_ cards away on your turn, which isn't true. He had a couple of opportunities to _take any card_ from Robert on his own turn and seemed to think that he wasn't allowed, which he was (not only can you _take_ cards from another player in the same city on your turn that card corresponds to that city…but if the other player is the _Researcher,_ you can take _any_ card from him - one of the few Roles in the game whose power works off-turn). They did pretty well, but there were a number of missteps - not curing a cube from Beijing in order to save Wil one movement on his next turn, for example. Or demanding that Morgan play Forecast on _the 5 cards in Wil's hand,_ rather than the six cards she could have scried once Wil set them back atop the deck after shuffling. But the thing they did most wrong was, as you observe, Jao, focusing _way too much on treating cities,_ and not enough on _curing diseases._ :^/ Still, a heck of a lot of fun watching a great game! I love this episode! :^D
Grymmorgan The sad part is that IRL this "game" isnt that easy, because finding a cure isnt easy and preventing a spreading is hard. Making this game more realistic could possibly make it too complicated, but I think there should be an automatic spreading of diseases each turn (as we see from Ebola right now) while making the curing harder. Maybe ... step 1: Get funding, step 2: research and randomly determine success ... and at the same time you have to spend money on containment of the disease.
Jao Kolad Sorry, Jao…I originally misread what you'd said. I thought you'd said that _curing_ all 4 diseases is "pretty much impossible." Which…my bad. The game would be unplayable if that were true. _Eradicating_ 4 is not actually _impossible_ …but it's very close to it. You'd need a couple of lucky early cures and a great draw where everything is close together. Medic and Scientist (in the basic game) would be mandatory. It would be slightly easier in some combos (Archivist/Dispatcher, etc.) in "Over the Brink…" but only if you were playing on Normal, or, at worst, Heroic.
Eradicating 4 (five in "On the Brink" IS almost impossible without reshuffling unless as you said you get a god draw and things go precisely right. Knowing this that you only need to "CURE" them changes things. I just had watched the video and we must have just glossed over that in the rules and "assumed' you had to eradicate the disease. That's what you get for assumptions right? lol
watching this while at work on my 2nd monitor with headphones.... I share an office and I'nm trying really hard not to burst out laughing out loud during some of it. I love the extended episode... wish I had more time to watch more of these. Also, I've played this game many times, I think I've won once, but it's a favorite.
So this just happened.... Playing with my 2 best friends.... We set up the board as normal. Playing on 5 epidemics. We had a hotspot but not a bad board set up. First round, epidemic. Next player, epidemic. 3rd and final player, at 5 Outbeaks and 6 blue cubes left in the tray, another epidemic!!! We lost by Outbreaks, no blue cubes AND running out black cubes all of a sudden. 3 Round Loss. We did laugh and it was amusing. Took us longer to set up than play.
My most crazy disease is shingles when I was 8 and they had no idea what it was for 3 days on top of my medical condition which makes it impossible for me to retain water and for my body to respond for any sort of stress making any sort of strep throat throat, fever, etc, deadly. So I was in ER for 2ish days (I think) high on meds. I also had swine flu later within the same year. So that was fun.
+TimmyTechTV agreed, he should have used a blue card to fly to Europe and clean up. In the late game only chain outbreaks really matter. They also didn't draw enough blue cards to have a prayer to cure it any time soon.
In my version, the blocks are slightly see-through (and smaller, with more rounded corners, instead of pointed), and the world map looks totally different. Also, the backs of the cards in mine are one colour (sort of greenish, in a ton of different hues, though), with the symbol in the centre, not the corner. And I just noticed, the disease symbols are also different. Rather than a square, pentagon, star, and circle, the ones in mine actually LOOK like germs... Did I get a fake copy? Also, when we played, yellow was hepatitis (jaundice from liver damage), blue was pertussis (coughing to the point of turning blue), black was bubonic plague (because the black pus), and red was smallpox (because red bumps). Never occured to us to use zombies, since the rest of the game's so realistic...
Our diseases USUALLY have the same names although thanks to recent events Yellow went from Geriatric herpes to Ebola (because well yah) Black is usually the Zombie Plague. Read is typically SARS, and blue is Herpasyphagonalese. Though now that we have the on the brink expansion that can be the "virulent mutation" strain and blue can be something else like Swine flu or something fun like that.
Nice video, really shows how much fun this game is. I like cooperative games in which you can discuss your next moves. You should have put down more research labs in this game session, really helps with moving around on the board. The game is really balanced, for us nearly every session ends with something like "the next card we draw either means victory, or we will lose" - you are never sure if you will win or lose until the very end.
I have to say, this is probably tied for favorite game I discovered as a result of this show. Tied with Castle Panic. I love introducing this game to friends. Once they realize how much the game is trying to beat the players, there is a FURIOUS need to play it until we win. :D
The juggling conversation reminds me of the time someone came to my school and we spent all PE learning to juggle with him and he gave everyone a set of hackysacks for it. It was great, and I still can juggle somewhat.
+El Rodrigo And you play a game with friends and only play the game without side chatter of any kind? This is how adults play games because daily life keeps them from interacting every day. It isn't like they are kids who see each other at school every day.
The extended editions are for people who want all the side chatter. If you want the episode to focus on the game, watch the non-extended one. It's win-win for everyone.
I wish there was a way to like, win a contest and get to be a guest player on an episode of this. I love this show SO much. And I don't really have people to play these games with... but I WANT TO!!
This reminds me of watching Ticket to Ride, went out and bought it and still having so much fun playing it. Now I want this game. The sheer challenge is seductively enticing. Thanks for the extended video.
I said "I can't juggle" one day right as a street performer walked by. in 5 minutes, he taught me how to do it. it took many hours of practice to be able to juggle for more than a few second, but I was super happy.
